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Post by griffith82 on Jun 11, 2017 0:41:28 GMT
To be honest, the discussion about if the writer of that article is right or not is kinda pointless because we currently don't have any definitive proof to either undermine his article or defend it. So, in the end it all comes down to personal opinions about ME:A. (With that being said, I could have placed a bet beforehand on the fact that SofNacimento would be defending the article against Griffith82.) Even though the silence is annoying we will only really know about the future of ME:A when Bioware itself officially comments about it. That being said, it still worries me a little bit that Bioware didn't even mention ME:A. Yeah you are right. At this stage we just need to wait and see. I'm not worried though, we'll maybe a little but why bother patching what they did with 1.08 if there weren't future plans. I guarantee you the voice actors didn't come back just for a patch. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2017 2:09:05 GMT
My spidey sense tells me there will be DLC. My spidey sense is accurate.
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Post by nastrodamus on Jun 11, 2017 2:45:47 GMT
To be honest, the discussion about if the writer of that article is right or not is kinda pointless because we currently don't have any definitive proof to either undermine his article or defend it. So, in the end it all comes down to personal opinions about ME:A. (With that being said, I could have placed a bet beforehand on the fact that SofNacimento would be defending the article against Griffith82.) Even though the silence is annoying we will only really know about the future of ME:A when Bioware itself officially comments about it. That being said, it still worries me a little bit that Bioware didn't even mention ME:A. Starting notice to alot of industries (gaming including) taking a page from the comic world. No communication when a title is canned, it just happens. If a product has failed to live up to sales expectation, take what money you've gotten and move on. With Anthem being reveled, Bioware certainly has done that. Just easier to keep quiet from a company stand point. |
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Post by majesticjazz on Jun 11, 2017 3:02:06 GMT
To be honest, the discussion about if the writer of that article is right or not is kinda pointless because we currently don't have any definitive proof to either undermine his article or defend it. So, in the end it all comes down to personal opinions about ME:A. (With that being said, I could have placed a bet beforehand on the fact that SofNacimento would be defending the article against Griffith82.) Even though the silence is annoying we will only really know about the future of ME:A when Bioware itself officially comments about it. That being said, it still worries me a little bit that Bioware didn't even mention ME:A. Starting notice to alot of industries (gaming including) taking a page from the comic world. No communication when a title is canned, it just happens. If a product has failed to live up to sales expectation, take what money you've gotten and move on. With Anthem being reveled, Bioware certainly has done that. Just easier to keep quiet from a company stand point. I do believe that MEA was the beginning of the end for the Mass Effect brand but until EA officially says something, anything can happen. |
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Post by gamersglory on Jun 11, 2017 3:29:29 GMT
Starting notice to alot of industries (gaming including) taking a page from the comic world. No communication when a title is canned, it just happens. If a product has failed to live up to sales expectation, take what money you've gotten and move on. With Anthem being reveled, Bioware certainly has done that. Just easier to keep quiet from a company stand point. I do believe that MEA was the beginning of the end for the Mass Effect brand but until EA officially says something, anything can happen. If they can make more money off of DLC then it cost them to produce it then yes they will at some point milk it. |
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Post by griffith82 on Jun 11, 2017 4:27:25 GMT
To be honest, the discussion about if the writer of that article is right or not is kinda pointless because we currently don't have any definitive proof to either undermine his article or defend it. So, in the end it all comes down to personal opinions about ME:A. (With that being said, I could have placed a bet beforehand on the fact that SofNacimento would be defending the article against Griffith82.) Even though the silence is annoying we will only really know about the future of ME:A when Bioware itself officially comments about it. That being said, it still worries me a little bit that Bioware didn't even mention ME:A. Starting notice to alot of industries (gaming including) taking a page from the comic world. No communication when a title is canned, it just happens. If a product has failed to live up to sales expectation, take what money you've gotten and move on. With Anthem being reveled, Bioware certainly has done that. Just easier to keep quiet from a company stand point. So you think a new title being announced means they are done with Andromeda? That's right when DA 2 flopped (sorta) they quickly announced they were doing SWTOR and Dragon age plans were axed. Oh wait no they weren't. |
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Post by suikoden on Jun 11, 2017 4:45:55 GMT
I do believe that MEA was the beginning of the end for the Mass Effect brand but until EA officially says something, anything can happen. If they can make more money off of DLC then it cost them to produce it then yes they will at some point milk it. Not worth selling 500k of DLC if it further tarnishes Bioware, and by extension, EA’s brand. That’s worth more than the $$$ from DLC. There probably was expansion DLC planned, but it’s just not worth it to sell at this point. Need to remove that stench from Bioware so Dylan doesn’t get immediately blackballed. Why do you think there was no announcement by EA today? If there was going to be DLC they’d have mentioned something for E3. |
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Post by griffith82 on Jun 11, 2017 4:52:59 GMT
If they can make more money off of DLC then it cost them to produce it then yes they will at some point milk it. Not worth selling 500k of DLC if it further tarnishes Bioware, and by extension, EA’s brand. That’s worth more than the $$$ from DLC. There probably was expansion DLC planned, but it’s just not worth it to sell at this point. Need to remove that stench from Bioware so Dylan doesn’t get immediately blackballed. Why do you think there was no announcement by EA today? If there was going to be DLC they’d have mentioned something for E3. Man you really try hard don't you. Nobody announces dlc at or prior to E3! EVER! There is plenty of evidence that dlc is being worked on so stop trying to prove otherwise. |
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Post by Nightlife on Jun 11, 2017 4:53:46 GMT
Releasing DLC without addressing a lot of the issues from the game's reception would be like them ignoring things, and thus not being professional, and causing ultimately more harm. Halting things is being professional in this circumstance, while they do some soul-searching and re-tool.
I think we'll get another Mass Effect game, but who knows how many years away and in what form. In the meantime, I can play the OT.
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Post by suikoden on Jun 11, 2017 5:14:29 GMT
Not worth selling 500k of DLC if it further tarnishes Bioware, and by extension, EA’s brand. That’s worth more than the $$$ from DLC. There probably was expansion DLC planned, but it’s just not worth it to sell at this point. Need to remove that stench from Bioware so Dylan doesn’t get immediately blackballed. Why do you think there was no announcement by EA today? If there was going to be DLC they’d have mentioned something for E3. Man you really try hard don't you. Nobody announces dlc at or prior to E3! EVER! There is plenty of evidence that dlc is being worked on so stop trying to prove otherwise. Oh i agree to some extent - multiplayer DLC is definitely being worked on. Feel free to address my first point though - do you think it makes sense to release Andromeda DLC when Bioware is soon releasing yet another action / sci fi / adventure game? Or do you think that maaayyybbbeee sweeping Andromeda DLC under the rug might make more sense so people don’t piggyback their Bioware hate onto Dylan? I wouldn’t be surprised if EA trademarks “Bioware Edmonton” so that people know that “oh, oh yeah - this is the Bioware that isn’t a complete fuck-up. I’ll buy Dylan!” |
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Post by griffith82 on Jun 11, 2017 5:18:48 GMT
Man you really try hard don't you. Nobody announces dlc at or prior to E3! EVER! There is plenty of evidence that dlc is being worked on so stop trying to prove otherwise. Oh i agree to some extent - multiplayer DLC is definitely being worked on. Feel free to address my first point though - do you think it makes sense to release Andromeda DLC when Bioware is soon releasing yet another action / sci fi / adventure game? Or do you think that maaayyybbbeee sweeping Andromeda DLC under the rug might make more sense so people don’t piggyback their Bioware hate onto Dylan? I wouldn’t be surprised if EA trademarks “Bioware Edmonton” so that people know that “oh, oh yeah - this is the Bioware that isn’t a complete fuck-up. I’ll buy Dylan!” I think sweeping Andromeda under the rug would be the way to go IF it is truly seen as a failure and let's be frank here, it wasn't a failure. Now we already know the VA's have been recording lines, the new patch tightens things up and if they intended to forget Andromeda we'd have gotten one perhaps 2 patches. They can very easily release some dlc, work on new IP and plan for ME's future. |
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Post by Sanunes on Jun 11, 2017 5:19:48 GMT
Man you really try hard don't you. Nobody announces dlc at or prior to E3! EVER! There is plenty of evidence that dlc is being worked on so stop trying to prove otherwise. Oh i agree to some extent - multiplayer DLC is definitely being worked on. Feel free to address my first point though - do you think it makes sense to release Andromeda DLC when Bioware is soon releasing yet another action / sci fi / adventure game? Or do you think that maaayyybbbeee sweeping Andromeda DLC under the rug might make more sense so people don’t piggyback their Bioware hate onto Dylan? I wouldn’t be surprised if EA trademarks “Bioware Edmonton” so that people know that “oh, oh yeah - this is the Bioware that isn’t a complete fuck-up. I’ll buy Dylan!” Soon? They just delayed Anthem to Fiscal Year 2019 so you are looking at least two years, in my opinion probably closer to three. |
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Post by suikoden on Jun 11, 2017 5:28:17 GMT
Oh i agree to some extent - multiplayer DLC is definitely being worked on. Feel free to address my first point though - do you think it makes sense to release Andromeda DLC when Bioware is soon releasing yet another action / sci fi / adventure game? Or do you think that maaayyybbbeee sweeping Andromeda DLC under the rug might make more sense so people don’t piggyback their Bioware hate onto Dylan? I wouldn’t be surprised if EA trademarks “Bioware Edmonton” so that people know that “oh, oh yeah - this is the Bioware that isn’t a complete fuck-up. I’ll buy Dylan!” I think sweeping Andromeda under the rug would be the way to go IF it is truly seen as a failure and let's be frank here, it wasn't a failure. Now we already know the VA's have been recording lines, the new patch tightens things up and if they intended to forget Andromeda we'd have gotten one perhaps 2 patches. They can very easily release some dlc, work on new IP and plan for ME's future. It doesn’t matter if it’s a commercial success - (which I doubt it is or they’d have released some sort of announcement like with DA:I), if it’s a critical disaster, from both professionals and the general public. The general perception regarding Andromeda - warranted or not, is that the game is hot garbage. Releasing single-player DLC opens up all of these old wounds - the animations, the SJW debates, etc. It doesn’t matter if VA’s have been recording - that can all be cancelled. As the hate snowballed, any future DLC plans were probably shelved. The memes have spoken. |
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Post by Sanunes on Jun 11, 2017 5:30:44 GMT
Yet his original article about me a was edited multiple times. I think he is only getting so much credit because he is following the opinion of the internet on this. If he was posting about how well Mass Effect: Andromeda is really doing people would be quick to turn on him because his opinion is different then theirs. The funny thing is looking at some of the YouTube channels of people that are using his articles as their sole source of information on the status of the game have major spikes in their views when they post about Mass Effect: Andromeda so there is still enough interest for people to keep watching YouTube videos about a video game they hate almost three months after launch. |
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Post by dark8sage on Jun 11, 2017 6:22:26 GMT
To sound like Kotaku, I had several anonymous sources in Austin (and they're all gone. They all quit one by one. Not fired, just walked out.) and I have one through a relative that lives in Ottawa about Montreal. I haven't heard of anyone getting canned. I know Heir was released after his contract expired (he should've been ejected the day he first tweeted out that he is supported by Flynn for his racial comments. Flynn... was okay with it, I guess... if that's the case, F*** you Flynn.) , but that's it. Now, if you're given a choice to leave Montreal for Edmonton, you will quit. Edmonton is known for natural resource collection and I've been up there a few times. It's cold, pretty generic and you've got to love what you're doing to get by up there. Montreal, in my honest and humble opinion, is not much better, but way better than Edmonton as far as more opportunities for tech jobs. Austin is the place to be, but I didn't realize how crazy expensive it has gotten to live there. It's approaching San Francisco 2.0 levels and even towns outside of Austin, like Round Rock, are stupid expensive. For an hourly worker, you're going to have a crazy, long commute if you want to have a decent place and have money left in your pocket after paying all the bills. The problem with Heir is that they might have not have been allowed to do anything about what he said. This is all speculation and guess work, but when people started to publish the problems with what he was saying and they could have gone to the legal department and the people there said that it doesn't violate his contract they are stuck until his contract expires. I saw that within a company I worked for they watched the guy like a hawk looking for a misstep to fire him on, but they eventually had to wait until his contract expired before choosing not to renew. Montreal is a growing sector for game development over the years due to government credits, Aayrn Flynn in March was talking about those credits to the Edmonton provincial government. So I would expect more studios to start opening in Quebec over other provinces. If I recall correctly Motion Studios is in the same building as BioWare Montreal. A company can fire you on the spot if they can show you are endangering their public image. |
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Post by rapscallioness on Jun 11, 2017 6:35:28 GMT
If you believe there will be more than one DLC for Andromeda, this will be a sad reading: https://www.reddit.com/r/masseffect/comments/6ghpuc/no_spoilers_let_me_clear_something_up_about/ The guy even says he doesn't believe there will be a single DLC, although I think we will get at least one. Well, shit. |
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Post by gamersglory on Jun 11, 2017 6:54:07 GMT
If they can make more money off of DLC then it cost them to produce it then yes they will at some point milk it. Not worth selling 500k of DLC if it further tarnishes Bioware, and by extension, EA’s brand. That’s worth more than the $$$ from DLC. There probably was expansion DLC planned, but it’s just not worth it to sell at this point. Need to remove that stench from Bioware so Dylan doesn’t get immediately blackballed. Why do you think there was no announcement by EA today? If there was going to be DLC they’d have mentioned something for E3. You Think EA give a heck about Bioware's brand anymore. I've been alive long enough to see EA chew through bigger brands like Westwood Studios. Bioware's founders are gone too. EA does not like other brands to outshine them yes they will sell out because they will be made to or EA will get a team from one of the EA studios to make DLC for Andromeda. At some point, Bioware will become EA Edmonton, EA Montreal, and EA Austin. It happens all the time with EA. |
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Post by gamersglory on Jun 11, 2017 7:06:58 GMT
If you believe there will be more than one DLC for Andromeda, this will be a sad reading: https://www.reddit.com/r/masseffect/comments/6ghpuc/no_spoilers_let_me_clear_something_up_about/ The guy even says he doesn't believe there will be a single DLC, although I think we will get at least one. Well, shit. Yes, that does sound bad but remember they are looking at Montreal as a failed studio. more than likely they will hand Andromeda to another studio which it looks like all the heads of the game are based in Edmonton see twitter.com/GambleMike also with Cyberpunk 2077 coming up in the next year or two. Mass effect will be back oh and the team Patching the Game still is in Edmonton so maybe they will farm out work for DLC to other EA studios |
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Post by suikoden on Jun 11, 2017 8:04:52 GMT
Yes, that does sound bad but remember they are looking at Montreal as a failed studio. more than likely they will hand Andromeda to another studio which it looks like all the heads of the game are based in Edmonton see twitter.com/GambleMike also with Cyberpunk 2077 coming up in the next year or two. Mass effect will be back oh and the team Patching the Game still is in Edmonton so maybe they will farm out work for DLC to other EA studios The “Andromeda” name is basically gaming poison. Mass Effect might continue in the future, but the Andromeda cluster has imploded forever. |
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Post by Conquer Your Dreams on Jun 11, 2017 8:27:31 GMT
1-2 more patches and that will be it for MEA.
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Post by Elfen Lied on Jun 11, 2017 9:29:18 GMT
Damn! Until Schreier's clarifications about his article I was confident that they would release at least the foreshadowed Quarian DLC, but now I won't hold my breath for that.
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Post by kumazan on Jun 11, 2017 9:38:27 GMT
Damn! Until Schreier's clarifications about his article I was confident that they would release at least the foreshadowed Quarian DLC, but now I won't hold my breath for that. Yep, I was still cautiously optimistic regarding ME:A DLC, but the fact that the article's writer goes out of his way to defend his piece (kudos to him, btw, journalism could do with some more integrety nowadays, even if he turns out to be wrong) makes me think there is something to it beyond simple hearsay. This is terribly bad, because I really don't know if Anthem will be of any interest to me, DA is unlikely to come before late 2019, and Cyberpunk has been going on since forever and doesn't have a date yet afaik. Andromeda DLC would definitely sweeten the wait for those two.  |
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Post by abaris on Jun 11, 2017 9:59:51 GMT
I do believe that MEA was the beginning of the end for the Mass Effect brand but until EA officially says something, anything can happen. Yeah, well. They won't say anything on these lines. Why should they? If it's true and this didn't meet company expectations to the extent of discontinuing the series, they can just as well keep their powder dry for some distant future. They might pick up the series again at some point, so why make people shy away by their decision? Also there are a lot of fans of the series, some of which might just pack up and leave Bioware brands for good if there's not hope for another ME game in the foreseeable future. Better to keep everyone in suspense from a marketing point of view. |
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Post by SofNascimento on Jun 11, 2017 10:26:52 GMT
So, in the end it all comes down to personal opinions about ME:A. That's where people are wrong. Jason's article is not a personal opinion by the author. He is reporting what he heard talking with people that worked on the game. It's based on facts, not guesses. And its past history is what makes him reliable. It's not the first time he gets pounded by some people because of somethign he wrote and was right about. But I don't really blame people for thinking news are just something you choose to believe or not. They are just following the US president lead I guess. About if we are going to see a DLC or not. He makes clear he doesn't believe it, much didn't think he had enough infomation to be able to be 100% sure about it. |
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Post by Conquer Your Dreams on Jun 11, 2017 11:13:30 GMT
Yeah, i don't believe anymore than we will get any DLC or any MEA 2 ever. That story will never have any closure.
People here are talking about clickbait, they call Jason and Kotaku liars, because they cannot accept a simple truth: ME is dead now, that's 100% EA decision. I also don't believe that Aaryn or Mike will ever make any comment about ME future - look at their twitter accounts, so many people are asking - cause they are just not allowed to say a thing. 1-2 patches, maybe so longer MP support and that will be it.
I want to be wrong - i want Kotaku and his sources to be wrong too - but that neverending silence about MEA future and BW being fully focused on different projects are just proving my point. At least by now.
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