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Post by abaris on Jun 11, 2017 11:14:46 GMT
That's where people are wrong. Jason's article is not a personal opinion by the author. He is reporting what he heard talking with people that worked on the game. It's based on facts, not guesses. And its past history is what makes him reliable. It's not the first time he gets pounded by some people because of somethign he wrote and was right about. But I don't really blame people for thinking news are just something you choose to believe or not. They are just following the US president lead I guess. About if we are going to see a DLC or not. He makes clear he doesn't believe it, much didn't think he had enough infomation to be able to be 100% sure about it. His article has all the hallmarks of being legit. He's telling a comprehensive story, based on sources that stay anonymous for understandable reasons. Even if they left Bioware by now and work for another studio, no company loves a snitch and it would hurt their careers if they are called one. So that's journalistic business as usual. Protect your sources to get a story that wouldn't otherwise been told. As far as DLCs are concerned, I'm pretty sure the Quarian one, hinted quite heavily at in the game, was already in production when the main game was released. If it was in the later stages of development, only awaiting the finishing touches, it will be released, since it makes no sense to hold it back. However small the revenue on this one, it would still be revenue.
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Post by henkiedepost on Jun 11, 2017 11:15:00 GMT
So, in the end it all comes down to personal opinions about ME:A. That's where people are wrong. Jason's article is not a personal opinion by the author. He is reporting what he heard talking with people that worked on the game. It's based on facts, not guesses. And its past history is what makes him reliable. It's not the first time he gets pounded by some people because of somethign he wrote and was right about. But I don't really blame people for thinking news are just something you choose to believe or not. They are just following the US president lead I guess. About if we are going to see a DLC or not. He makes clear he doesn't believe it, much didn't think he had enough infomation to be able to be 100% sure about it. Meh. It's true that the author made credible articles in the past but it doesn't automatically make the specific article we are talking about right now credible as well. Of course, the general credibility of an author or news platform plays a role in measuring how trustworthy the information provided actually is, but I still believe it is very important to take every individual article aside and judge it on its own sources and assumptions. And that's where the 'problem' with this specific article lies. The man only states he talked with people working at Bioware. There are no transcripts of these conversations, written or audio, and no people from Bioware itself acknowledging he ever spoke to them. This, of course, has to do with the personal protection of those involved, but leaves us with no traceable sources whatsoever. Futhermore, there are no sources listed at the bottom of the article at all. Nothing he states can be looked up and checked. I therefore don't think that you can actually argue that people are following the lead of Trump by dismissing this article for now. News still needs sources to be credible. Without it, people are just as much in their right disregarding it as that you are believing it. By dismissing this article until definitive proof has been shown, people are actually acting in the opposite way the US president likes to do. The only thing we can actually conclude is that the writer 'might' be onto something, because he has written credible articles in the past. (Although, if I have to believe Smilesja, that's something to debate about as well.) That being said, I am inclined to give the writer of the article the benefit of the doubt, based on nothing more but a hunch. I am still taking everything with a grain of truth however until Bioware or EA actually make a statement about DLC and ME's future. I can perfectly understand, regardless of their motives, that other people here aren't as convinced by this article as you are.
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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on Jun 11, 2017 11:16:42 GMT
Yeah, i don't believe anymore than we will get any DLC or any MEA 2 ever. That story will never have any closure. People here are talking about clickbait, they call Jason and Kotaku liars, because they cannot accept a simple truth: ME is dead now, that's 100% EA decision. Most of the times its not the absolute truth when people state that its the ''absolute truth''- Its just one article in the Internet. We basically don't know anything, so calm the fuck down.
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Post by Conquer Your Dreams on Jun 11, 2017 11:27:29 GMT
Yeah, i don't believe anymore than we will get any DLC or any MEA 2 ever. That story will never have any closure. People here are talking about clickbait, they call Jason and Kotaku liars, because they cannot accept a simple truth: ME is dead now, that's 100% EA decision. so calm the fuck down. I will comeback to you with the same sentence 4-5 months from now, when you will be still discussing "incoming" DLC.
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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on Jun 11, 2017 11:44:56 GMT
I will comeback to you with the same sentence 4-5 months from now, when you will be still discussing "incoming" DLC. That is possible, but its unwise to run around and scream doom just from a single Internet article, hearsay and a bunch of maybe's and could be's.
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Post by majesticjazz on Jun 11, 2017 12:09:02 GMT
Yes, that does sound bad but remember they are looking at Montreal as a failed studio. more than likely they will hand Andromeda to another studio which it looks like all the heads of the game are based in Edmonton see twitter.com/GambleMike also with Cyberpunk 2077 coming up in the next year or two. Mass effect will be back oh and the team Patching the Game still is in Edmonton so maybe they will farm out work for DLC to other EA studios The “Andromeda” name is basically gaming poison. Mass Effect might continue in the future, but the Andromeda cluster has imploded forever. I agree with this. IF we get another ME game it will not have the Andromeda name and will be based in the milkyway. ME alone may or may not be dead but MEA sure the hell is. Like I said, it was a pilot and that pilot was a critical failure and possibly financial failure.
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on Jun 11, 2017 13:22:52 GMT
Yeah, i don't believe anymore than we will get any DLC or any MEA 2 ever. That story will never have any closure. People here are talking about clickbait, they call Jason and Kotaku liars, because they cannot accept a simple truth: ME is dead now, that's 100% EA decision. I also don't believe that Aaryn or Mike will ever make any comment about ME future - look at their twitter accounts, so many people are asking - cause they are just not allowed to say a thing. 1-2 patches, maybe so longer MP support and that will be it. I want to be wrong - i want Kotaku and his sources to be wrong too - but that neverending silence about MEA future and BW being fully focused on different projects are just proving my point. At least by now.
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Post by Gray Jedi on Jun 11, 2017 14:38:50 GMT
Ever since ME1 bioware have done multiple story dlcs for all there games even the one's that received big backlash DA2,ME3 so i expect Andromeda to get at least two story packs.
The obvious one involving the quarian ark and another involving the benefactor.
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Post by griffith82 on Jun 11, 2017 15:22:51 GMT
I think sweeping Andromeda under the rug would be the way to go IF it is truly seen as a failure and let's be frank here, it wasn't a failure. Now we already know the VA's have been recording lines, the new patch tightens things up and if they intended to forget Andromeda we'd have gotten one perhaps 2 patches. They can very easily release some dlc, work on new IP and plan for ME's future. It doesn’t matter if it’s a commercial success - (which I doubt it is or they’d have released some sort of announcement like with DA:I), if it’s a critical disaster, from both professionals and the general public. The general perception regarding Andromeda - warranted or not, is that the game is hot garbage. Releasing single-player DLC opens up all of these old wounds - the animations, the SJW debates, etc. It doesn’t matter if VA’s have been recording - that can all be cancelled. As the hate snowballed, any future DLC plans were probably shelved. The memes have spoken. This is all false. You and a few others have done nothing but bash this game from day one. You also are trying to find any excuse to try and make sure MEA is dead. The fact of the matter is you have no facts to base this on. It is all speculation. You want Andromeda to be dead but most of us don't and like it or not if dlc was in the works and va's were working on it at the very least that one will be released. As I've said before they wouldn't keep supporting the game if they were shelving it. As for a sequel it is way too soon to know anything about it but one less than stellar reviewed game is not likely to halt their plans. If it was DAI wouldn't have been made.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jun 11, 2017 16:54:43 GMT
It doesn’t matter if it’s a commercial success - (which I doubt it is or they’d have released some sort of announcement like with DA:I), if it’s a critical disaster, from both professionals and the general public. The general perception regarding Andromeda - warranted or not, is that the game is hot garbage. Releasing single-player DLC opens up all of these old wounds - the animations, the SJW debates, etc. It doesn’t matter if VA’s have been recording - that can all be cancelled. As the hate snowballed, any future DLC plans were probably shelved. The memes have spoken. This is all false. You and a few others have done nothing but bash this game from day one. You also are trying to find any excuse to try and make sure MEA is dead. The fact of the matter is you have no facts to base this on. It is all speculation. You want Andromeda to be dead but most of us don't and like it or not if dlc was in the works and va's were working on it at the very least that one will be released. As I've said before they wouldn't keep supporting the game if they were shelving it. As for a sequel it is way too soon to know anything about it but one less than stellar reviewed game is not likely to halt their plans. If it was DAI wouldn't have been made.Inded and DAI I think breathed new life into DA as well with it's success which is why we're getting a DA4 now But yeah I suspect we'll get at least 1 or 2 although as to when I don't know though but my hpoe is we get an announcement of some kind within the next month or 2 on that subject but while they'er still patching the game there is still hope.
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Post by abaris on Jun 11, 2017 17:21:23 GMT
Inded and DAI I think breathed new life into DA as well with it's success which is why we're getting a DA4 now. How's that more than a rumor right now? Was there any official announcement being made I'm not aware of? And most of all, who's developing it with Edmonton being busy with the new IP for at least another 18 months and Montreal, downsized or not, just having finished MEA?
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jun 11, 2017 17:34:22 GMT
Inded and DAI I think breathed new life into DA as well with it's success which is why we're getting a DA4 now. How's that more than a rumor right now? Was there any official announcement being made I'm not aware of? And most of all, who's developing it with Edmonton being busy with the new IP for at least another 18 months and Montreal, downsized or not, just having finished MEA? because Edmonton has more than 1 team 1 is working on the new IP the other is working on DA4. Something tells me you need to check the DA section of this forum.
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Post by suikoden on Jun 11, 2017 18:26:50 GMT
It doesn’t matter if it’s a commercial success - (which I doubt it is or they’d have released some sort of announcement like with DA:I), if it’s a critical disaster, from both professionals and the general public. The general perception regarding Andromeda - warranted or not, is that the game is hot garbage. Releasing single-player DLC opens up all of these old wounds - the animations, the SJW debates, etc. It doesn’t matter if VA’s have been recording - that can all be cancelled. As the hate snowballed, any future DLC plans were probably shelved. The memes have spoken. This is all false. You and a few others have done nothing but bash this game from day one. You also are trying to find any excuse to try and make sure MEA is dead. The fact of the matter is you have no facts to base this on. It is all speculation. You want Andromeda to be dead but most of us don't and like it or not if dlc was in the works and va's were working on it at the very least that one will be released. As I've said before they wouldn't keep supporting the game if they were shelving it. As for a sequel it is way too soon to know anything about it but one less than stellar reviewed game is not likely to halt their plans. If it was DAI wouldn't have been made. DA:I and even DA2 garnered great reviews, with multiple GOTY's, and werent an online laughingstock... EA and Bioware's reputation is worth more to them than a 7/10 DLC with a low attach rate + more ridicule. They keep supporting it to string along the multiplayer $$$ - quitting outright and those dollars disappear.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2017 18:35:17 GMT
If they can make more money off of DLC then it cost them to produce it then yes they will at some point milk it. Not worth selling 500k of DLC if it further tarnishes Bioware, and by extension, EA’s brand. That’s worth more than the $$$ from DLC. There probably was expansion DLC planned, but it’s just not worth it to sell at this point. Need to remove that stench from Bioware so Dylan doesn’t get immediately blackballed. Why do you think there was no announcement by EA today? If there was going to be DLC they’d have mentioned something for E3. We all know you hate BW/MEA and want it to die. Maybe you wouldn't be so miserable if you focused on something that didn't include hating, complaining or whining. Do you even know how to be happy? Do you know that people who do, and who focus on what makes them happy have better lives? True story! Should try it. Might work well for you. Really. But you are so stuck in your hate that you probably can't find a way out. Here's a hint. Let go of focusing on things you hate and that momentum will die. Then you will feel better and be able to find things to be happy about. True story also.
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Post by suikoden on Jun 11, 2017 18:38:34 GMT
Not worth selling 500k of DLC if it further tarnishes Bioware, and by extension, EA’s brand. That’s worth more than the $$$ from DLC. There probably was expansion DLC planned, but it’s just not worth it to sell at this point. Need to remove that stench from Bioware so Dylan doesn’t get immediately blackballed. Why do you think there was no announcement by EA today? If there was going to be DLC they’d have mentioned something for E3. We all know you hate BW/MEA and want it to die. Maybe you wouldn't be so miserable if you focused on something that didn't include hating, complaining or whining. Do you even know how to be happy? Do you know that people who do, and who focus on what makes them happy have better lives? True story! Should try it. Might work well for you. Really. But you are so stuck in your hate that you probably can't find a way out. Here's a hint. Let go of focusing on things you hate and that momentum will die. Then you will feel better and be able to find things to be happy about. True story also. It's sad how you feel the need to attack me rather than address my points. But I guess you just want to make Mass Effect great again, and these are your methods.
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Post by fchopin on Jun 11, 2017 18:42:13 GMT
If the Quarian DLC was started before MEA came out I don’t see why we would not get at least one DLC.
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Post by griffith82 on Jun 11, 2017 19:09:15 GMT
This is all false. You and a few others have done nothing but bash this game from day one. You also are trying to find any excuse to try and make sure MEA is dead. The fact of the matter is you have no facts to base this on. It is all speculation. You want Andromeda to be dead but most of us don't and like it or not if dlc was in the works and va's were working on it at the very least that one will be released. As I've said before they wouldn't keep supporting the game if they were shelving it. As for a sequel it is way too soon to know anything about it but one less than stellar reviewed game is not likely to halt their plans. If it was DAI wouldn't have been made. DA:I and even DA2 garnered great reviews, with multiple GOTY's, and werent an online laughingstock... EA and Bioware's reputation is worth more to them than a 7/10 DLC with a low attach rate + more ridicule. They keep supporting it to string along the multiplayer $$$ - quitting outright and those dollars disappear. DA2 had a huge online backlash and was the lowest rated Dragon Age. The user reviews are nearly identical to Andromeda. As long as a big enough fan base exits ME will continue. We know you hate it but please let it rest and let us enjoy it.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jun 11, 2017 19:27:49 GMT
DA:I and even DA2 garnered great reviews, with multiple GOTY's, and werent an online laughingstock... EA and Bioware's reputation is worth more to them than a 7/10 DLC with a low attach rate + more ridicule. They keep supporting it to string along the multiplayer $$$ - quitting outright and those dollars disappear. DA2 had a huge online backlash and was the lowest rated Dragon Age. The user reviews are nearly identical to Andromeda. As long as a big enough fan base exits ME will continue. We know you hate it but please let it rest and let us enjoy it. indeed and irt's DLC managed to hel;p pull it out of the fire a bit and in the end helped salvage the series I think. Which is why I hope the same will be true for MEA. If they can release a couple of DLC's like they did for DA2 hopefully it too can be salvaged. We'll only know in time.
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Post by abaris on Jun 11, 2017 20:21:33 GMT
The obvious one involving the quarian ark and another involving the benefactor. I place a bet. The only one we will ever see, if we will see any, is the Quarian one, since that obviously already was in production when the game was released.
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Post by traks on Jun 11, 2017 20:38:12 GMT
If we get a Quarian DLC I sure hope it has something to do with the continuation of the Kett or Jardaan storyline. I am more interested with what's going on in Andromeda...
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Post by abaris on Jun 11, 2017 21:17:43 GMT
We know you hate it but please let it rest and let us enjoy it. Since you turn every criticism of the game into hate for it, why should anyone take what you say seriously? You're obviously the classic case of see no evil, hear no evil fanboy/girl. Enjo it all you like. Noone is taking away from your enjoyment as long as you're able to play it. And I guess, noone here is able to force you not to play it.
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Post by griffith82 on Jun 11, 2017 21:35:20 GMT
We know you hate it but please let it rest and let us enjoy it. Since you turn every criticism of the game into hate for it, why should anyone take what you say seriously? You're obviously the classic case of see no evil, hear no evil fanboy/girl. Enjo it all you like. Noone is taking away from your enjoyment as long as you're able to play it. And I guess, noone here is able to force you not to play it. *sigh* May this place never change. I'm pretty positive I've never claimed the game perfect and even pointed out/agreed with some of the flaws. I'm just very tired of the same old arguments that have turned into hate like it or not. There are also people who need to realize Shepard ain't coming back. Oh and you don't have to like me or take me seriously but I'm not alone, and my opinion is no more or less valid than yours no matter how much I disagree with it. Good day sir/ma'am.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jun 11, 2017 21:59:02 GMT
If we get a Quarian DLC I sure hope it has something to do with the continuation of the Kett or Jardaan storyline. I am more interested with what's going on in Andromeda... I'd hpoe they'd throw in a cure for mum or something like that as for me hte cure for mum and the Quariams are the 2 biggest threads that need tying.
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Post by ArabianIGoggles on Jun 11, 2017 22:03:18 GMT
Since you turn every criticism of the game into hate for it, why should anyone take what you say seriously? You're obviously the classic case of see no evil, hear no evil fanboy/girl. Enjo it all you like. Noone is taking away from your enjoyment as long as you're able to play it. And I guess, noone here is able to force you not to play it. There are also people who need to realize Shepard ain't coming back. I guarantee Shepard will be back. Be it in a remaster, or whole new game, Shepard will be back.
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