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Post by gothpunkboy89 on Nov 15, 2016 18:17:20 GMT
Tali have AI hacking and could take on Colossus on her own. For about 5 seconds before being turned into a puddle.
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Post by themikefest on Nov 15, 2016 19:12:48 GMT
Yea I making any attempt to talk to Themmikefest about Liara is a lot like trying to that really racist family member during the holidays who thinks all black people are just moronic thugs who want to render white people extinct by having sex with white women. And just like that racist family member they are proud of their stance and opinions that have absolutely no basis for other then paranoid delusions. Just ignore her when she starts up on Liara. I thinks he saves it for moments that she doesn't have anything in particular to carp about and does it simply to get attention. And here you go again with assuming I'm a female. You're wrong. Oh yeah. Thanks for the analogy. I needed a good laugh.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2016 20:29:13 GMT
Bioware had the right idea with a bittersweet ending in the ME3 finale, it just wasn't well executed. A sunshine and rainbows ending to Mass Effect 3 would have been completely out of sync with a story focused on a war in which billions had died.
I liked the dream sequences, though they could have been better executed as well. Bioware was on the right track in having Shepard having actual human weaknesses. The mistake was in having the child take center stage, rather than casualties on the team.
There should have been casualties in Shepard's inner circle in the finale of ME3. Not all of your current squadmates should have made it through unscathed.
Replacing the original cast of ME1 squadmates with an almost entirely new squad of replacements in ME2 was a mistake, even though I like some of the ME2 squadmates.
The Suicide Mission should have been saved for the finale of ME3 rather than introduced in the middle chapter, although unlike ME2's Suicide Mission, I think some casualties should have been unavoidable.
A superweapon was necessary to defeat the Reapers. A conventional victory would have both been implausible given the technological disparity between the Reapers and the Council species, and would have turned Shepard into a bystander for the final victory. If the victory is won conventionally in a fleet battle, Admiral Hackett is the true hero of the story, rather than Shepard.
ME1 is the weakest game of the trilogy, and has the largest plot hole in the series. The story does not make sense at all.
Ashley is neither specist or a bible-thumper.
Vega is the best human companion of the series.
The Leviathan DLC was better than the Citadel DLC. Actually it was probably the best DLC of the series.
The second half of the Citadel DLC, though enjoyable, lays on the humor a little too thick. Some of the characters felt more like Tumblr fan comic versions of themselves.
The Clone and Brooks should have been indoctrinated. Their motivations make zero sense otherwise.
Tali looking near exactly like a human is dumb. That popular fan art the Talimancers loved so much that was the obvious inspiration for her reveal was dumber.
Steve > Joker
I like Grunt, but would have gladly traded him for either Okeer or the Shaman of Clan Urdnot.
Overall Mark Meer turned in a better performance than Jennifer Hale. Only in the first game was the opposite true.
Morinth should never have been a recruitable character. Options are great only when the options make sense. Recruiting a crazy person who wants to murder you, does not.
Vanguard is the most boring class to play.
Sheploo looks better than 99% of all custom Sheps I've ever seen posted on the BSN.
Despite being a popular fan complaint, long hair & beard options did not make sense for Mass Effect's CC. Shepard was a Marine, not a some hipster who slings soy lattes for a living.
The N7 hoody is the worst of the uniform options for Shepard.
The Phoenix armor Ashley wears in ME1 is less tactical than the long hair in ME3 that the fans love to complain about.
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Post by Lavochkin on Nov 15, 2016 21:13:11 GMT
Bioware had the right idea with a bittersweet ending in the ME3 finale, it just wasn't well executed. A sunshine and rainbows ending to Mass Effect 3 would have been completely out of sync with a story focused on a war in which billions had died. I liked the dream sequences, though they could have been better executed as well. Bioware was on the right track in having Shepard having actual human weaknesses. The mistake was in having the child take center stage, rather than casualties on the team. There should have been casualties in Shepard's inner circle in the finale of ME3. Not all of your current squadmates should have made it through unscathed. Replacing the original cast of ME1 squadmates with an almost entirely new squad of replacements in ME2 was a mistake, even though I like some of the ME2 squadmates. The Suicide Mission should have been saved for the finale of ME3 rather than introduced in the middle chapter, although unlike ME2's Suicide Mission, I think some casualties should have been unavoidable. A superweapon was necessary to defeat the Reapers. A conventional victory would have both been implausible given the technological disparity between the Reapers and the Council species, and would have turned Shepard into a bystander for the final victory. If the victory is won conventionally in a fleet battle, Admiral Hackett is the true hero of the story, rather than Shepard. ME1 is the weakest game of the trilogy, and has the largest plot hole in the series. The story does not make sense at all. Ashley is neither specist or a bible-thumper. Vega is the best human companion of the series. The Leviathan DLC was better than the Citadel DLC. Actually it was probably the best DLC of the series. The second half of the Citadel DLC, though enjoyable, lays on the humor a little too thick. Some of the characters felt more like Tumblr fan comic versions of themselves. The Clone and Brooks should have been indoctrinated. Their motivations make zero sense otherwise. Tali looking near exactly like a human is dumb. That popular fan art the Talimancers loved so much that was the obvious inspiration for her reveal was dumber. Steve > Joker I like Grunt, but would have gladly traded him for either Okeer or the Shaman of Clan Urdnot. Overall Mark Meer turned in a better performance than Jennifer Hale. Only in the first game was the opposite true. Morinth should never have been a recruitable character. Options are great only when the options make sense. Recruiting a crazy person who wants to murder you, does not. Vanguard is the most boring class to play. Sheploo looks better than 99% of all custom Sheps I've ever seen posted on the BSN. Despite being a popular fan complaint, long hair & beard options did not make sense for Mass Effect's CC. Shepard was a Marine, not a some hipster who slings soy lattes for a living. The N7 hoody is the worst of the uniform options for Shepard. The Phoenix armor Ashley wears in ME1 is less tactical than the long hair in ME3 that the fans love to complain about. Never got why she was branded as some kind of christian fundie by some, especially given that there's zero evidence that she's even christian to begin with,or belongs to any specific faith for that matter.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2016 21:35:42 GMT
Tali have AI hacking and could take on Colossus on her own. For about 5 seconds before being turned into a puddle. I don't know about that... I"ve always had better luck with Tali staying alive longer. Garrus is usually the squad mate who tends to "die" the most frequently in my games. I often take Tali on the mission to take down Saren. on the Suicide Mission, and on the Priority Earth mission (particularly when romancing her)... all on insanity difficulty... and she has gone down very, very few times during those games.
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Post by Darth Dennis on Nov 15, 2016 21:38:43 GMT
Bioware had the right idea with a bittersweet ending in the ME3 finale, it just wasn't well executed. A sunshine and rainbows ending to Mass Effect 3 would have been completely out of sync with a story focused on a war in which billions had died. I liked the dream sequences, though they could have been better executed as well. Bioware was on the right track in having Shepard having actual human weaknesses. The mistake was in having the child take center stage, rather than casualties on the team. There should have been casualties in Shepard's inner circle in the finale of ME3. Not all of your current squadmates should have made it through unscathed. Replacing the original cast of ME1 squadmates with an almost entirely new squad of replacements in ME2 was a mistake, even though I like some of the ME2 squadmates. The Suicide Mission should have been saved for the finale of ME3 rather than introduced in the middle chapter, although unlike ME2's Suicide Mission, I think some casualties should have been unavoidable. A superweapon was necessary to defeat the Reapers. A conventional victory would have both been implausible given the technological disparity between the Reapers and the Council species, and would have turned Shepard into a bystander for the final victory. If the victory is won conventionally in a fleet battle, Admiral Hackett is the true hero of the story, rather than Shepard. ME1 is the weakest game of the trilogy, and has the largest plot hole in the series. The story does not make sense at all. Ashley is neither specist or a bible-thumper. Vega is the best human companion of the series. The Leviathan DLC was better than the Citadel DLC. Actually it was probably the best DLC of the series. The second half of the Citadel DLC, though enjoyable, lays on the humor a little too thick. Some of the characters felt more like Tumblr fan comic versions of themselves. The Clone and Brooks should have been indoctrinated. Their motivations make zero sense otherwise. Tali looking near exactly like a human is dumb. That popular fan art the Talimancers loved so much that was the obvious inspiration for her reveal was dumber. Steve > Joker I like Grunt, but would have gladly traded him for either Okeer or the Shaman of Clan Urdnot. Overall Mark Meer turned in a better performance than Jennifer Hale. Only in the first game was the opposite true. Morinth should never have been a recruitable character. Options are great only when the options make sense. Recruiting a crazy person who wants to murder you, does not. Vanguard is the most boring class to play. Sheploo looks better than 99% of all custom Sheps I've ever seen posted on the BSN. Despite being a popular fan complaint, long hair & beard options did not make sense for Mass Effect's CC. Shepard was a Marine, not a some hipster who slings soy lattes for a living. The N7 hoody is the worst of the uniform options for Shepard. The Phoenix armor Ashley wears in ME1 is less tactical than the long hair in ME3 that the fans love to complain about. Never got why she was branded as some kind of christian fundie by some, especially given that there's zero evidence that she's even christian to begin with,, or belongs to any specific faith for that matter. It's only a small bit of dialogue in ME1. She says that her father died but she thinks he's watching from heaven, and Shepard can either say he also believes in a god, or can respect it or he can laugh in her face. That's basically it.
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Post by aoibhealfae on Nov 15, 2016 21:48:19 GMT
Tali have AI hacking and could take on Colossus on her own. For about 5 seconds before being turned into a puddle. and then Kaidan spam a Lift and I sit at the back sniping with Tali shooting at it with a shotgun until it die. You're fighting mostly Geth in the main story, Tali have the greatest advantage when utilized properly. Garrus only get swarmed and keel over and die. Thorian vomiting on top of him, die. Krogan Battlemaster body slam, die. Geth armature, die. Geth Colossus die. Geth Juggernaut, die. Geth Prime die. You're already babysitting him for the entire trilogy, its fine to just keep him on the ship and calibrate the mako.
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Post by gothpunkboy89 on Nov 15, 2016 21:50:59 GMT
For about 5 seconds before being turned into a puddle. I don't know about that... I"ve always had better luck with Tali staying alive longer. Garrus is usually the squad mate who tends to "die" the most frequently in my games. I often take Tali on the mission to take down Saren. on the Suicide Mission, and on the Priority Earth mission (particularly when romancing her)... all on insanity difficulty... and she has gone down very, very few times during those games. I've had different experiences. I took Tali and Jack with me on Suicide Mission to hedge my bets that no one would die on my Insanity play though. She did nothing but die frequently. Was great bullet sponge.
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Post by Phantom on Nov 15, 2016 21:55:00 GMT
Yea I making any attempt to talk to Themmikefest about Liara is a lot like trying to that really racist family member during the holidays who thinks all black people are just moronic thugs who want to render white people extinct by having sex with white women. And just like that racist family member they are proud of their stance and opinions that have absolutely no basis for other then paranoid delusions. Just ignore her when she starts up on Liara. I thinks he saves it for moments that she doesn't have anything in particular to carp about and does it simply to get attention. And here you go again with assuming I'm a female. You're wrong. Oh yeah. Thanks for the analogy. I needed a good laugh. To themikefest, gothpunkboy is not the sharpest tool in the shed. Well there are plenty of idiots online. Just because someone has a certain display picture, it doesn't mean they are not that gender or appearance. there are plenty of reasons you would pick that picture. Please correct me if I am wrong, is that the voice actress of Trayvor of ME3? well regardless it is a good picture and she is pretty.
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Post by gothpunkboy89 on Nov 15, 2016 21:59:32 GMT
For about 5 seconds before being turned into a puddle. and then Kaidan spam a Lift and I sit at the back sniping with Tali shooting at it with a shotgun until it die. You're fighting mostly Geth in the main story, Tali have the greatest advantage when utilized properly. Garrus only get swarmed and keel over and die. Thorian vomiting on top of him, die. Krogan Battlemaster body slam, die. Geth armature, die. Geth Colossus die. Geth Juggernaut, die. Geth Prime die. You're already babysitting him for the entire trilogy, its fine to just keep him on the ship and calibrate the mako. And every single time I've utilized Tali on anything that isn't easy mode she dies so much that all she is really useful for is as a bullet shield. Garrus for me almost never dies because I usually have him in the back using sniper rifle. Swapping to assault rifle if we get into close quarter areas. Combine this with Wrex who is a tank with shotgun for CQC and my team almost never dies.
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Post by gothpunkboy89 on Nov 15, 2016 22:02:06 GMT
Yea I making any attempt to talk to Themmikefest about Liara is a lot like trying to that really racist family member during the holidays who thinks all black people are just moronic thugs who want to render white people extinct by having sex with white women. And just like that racist family member they are proud of their stance and opinions that have absolutely no basis for other then paranoid delusions. Just ignore her when she starts up on Liara. I thinks he saves it for moments that she doesn't have anything in particular to carp about and does it simply to get attention. And here you go again with assuming I'm a female. You're wrong. Oh yeah. Thanks for the analogy. I needed a good laugh. What ever you say sweet heart. Tell you what you stop the hatred of Liara beyond all logical reason to dislike a character and I might consider actually attempting to remember your gender.
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Post by themikefest on Nov 15, 2016 22:06:50 GMT
I liked the dream sequences, though they could have been better executed as well. Bioware was on the right track in having Shepard having actual human weaknesses. The mistake was in having the child take center stage, rather than casualties on the team. The other thing is depending on the background chosen for Shepard, he/she could already experiencing dreams before ME1. I just headcannon my Shepard being at a Led Zepplin concert I agree. That's why I've posted a few times that both squadmates should be killed on the beam run no matter the ems. Another mistake was having too many and all can live. If the number was at 8, enough needed to get through the relay, it would've made things a little easier for ME3. There was a suicide mission in ME3. Its called the beam run. Even if Bioware was to put one in ME3, it still would work for ME2. And yes to having mandatory deaths I like the dlc as well. My only complaint is Shepard isn't given the opportunity to ask about the catalyst I agree. I would've had Joker shave off his beard. Traynor, Chakwas, Gabby have their hair up off their collar. James would not be in the military with his neck tattoo. Its Biowares military. They can do whatever.
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Post by themikefest on Nov 15, 2016 22:25:43 GMT
To themikefest, gothpunkboy is not the sharpest tool in the shed. Well there are plenty of idiots online. Just because someone has a certain display picture, it doesn't mean they are not that gender or appearance. there are plenty of reasons you would pick that picture. Please correct me if I am wrong, is that the voice actress of Trayvor of ME3? well regardless it is a good picture and she is pretty. You're correct. She, Alix Wilton Regan, also is one of the female voices for female Inquisitor. Good voice. A very talented woman. Looking forward to hearing her voice in future Bioware games
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Post by SofaJockey on Nov 15, 2016 22:33:45 GMT
Thanks for not escalating the mild sniping, let's all stay civil in the Unpopular thread please For the record themikefest 's admiration for Alix Wilton's work is well placed. I disagree with TMF's perspective on Liara, but he has every right to express it
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2016 1:30:48 GMT
I don't know if this would be classed as an unpopular opinion or not, and it is a stupid one I'll go right ahead and say it, but I wish characters like Cortez and Traynor were introduced in ME2 instead of ME3.
It wouldn't work because of Cerberus, but I didn't like Cerberus AT ALL in ME2. Joining them was just the worst part for me. Even if I did grow to like Miranda, and Jacob, I didn't care for everyone else (Chambers, Ken, Gabby etc.)
But in ME3, when we were back in the Alliance, Cortez and Traynor joined the Normandy and I thought they were great.
I admit my bias towards Cerberus. But even so, I don't think even them being Alliance would have endeared me to the Cerberus crew in ME2. Which is why I would have loved it for Cortez and Traynor to have been there.
All that said, so well written and memorable are they, that with ME3's entirety, plus the two DLC's Leviathan and Citadel, it almost feels like they were there from the beginning. I mean, they are the only other crewmates present at the party other than Joker, the rest are all squaddies. And they felt right being there.
Oh, another unpopular opinion.
I didn't like Chakwas. Or Engineer Adams.
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Post by themikefest on Nov 16, 2016 2:14:38 GMT
I don't know if this would be classed as an unpopular opinion or not, and it is a stupid one I'll go right ahead and say it, but I wish characters like Cortez and Traynor were introduced in ME2 instead of ME3. I would say both could be introduced in ME1. Steve can drive the Mako and Sam does her comms beside the CIC.
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Post by aoibhealfae on Nov 16, 2016 4:38:59 GMT
And every single time I've utilized Tali on anything that isn't easy mode she dies so much that all she is really useful for is as a bullet shield. Garrus for me almost never dies because I usually have him in the back using sniper rifle. Swapping to assault rifle if we get into close quarter areas. Combine this with Wrex who is a tank with shotgun for CQC and my team almost never dies. I play as an Infiltrator, my squadmates is primarily used as cannon fodders and Garrus is useless to me for that purpose. Since being a sniper is his claim to fame, I let him use that as a primary weapon and he is terrible at it. He took long breaks between shooting and he always misses, he lack any defensive until ME3 where he had shield boost, he's vulnerable to swarms, he hardly function as damage support and require the most micromanaging through the trilogy. The last two mechs in his loyalty mission ALWAYS kill him. Tali is excellent for both ME1 and ME2 where you do deal with a lot of Geth and mechs and ME3 is a lot forgiving with tech bursts. She have Energy Drain which can function as her personal boost. She is primarily a shotgun user so I tweak her stats just so she could function as a mid-range fighter. Her drones as tanks and backup and her AI hacking helps a lot so I don't really have to watch her back. She's a mini engineer after all.
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Post by dmc1001 on Nov 16, 2016 5:47:45 GMT
Yea I making any attempt to talk to Themmikefest about Liara is a lot like trying to that really racist family member during the holidays who thinks all black people are just moronic thugs who want to render white people extinct by having sex with white women. And just like that racist family member they are proud of their stance and opinions that have absolutely no basis for other then paranoid delusions. Why do you care so much about convincing Mike of anything? It's pretty clear he and I don't necessarily have the same opinions about certain things in these games. Yet, I don't have a problem with him and I don't think he has one with me. The key is to just allow each other to have our opinions rather than try to convince the other to change. It's really that simple. It makes for a much more pleasant experience here. And, to be honest, his knowledge of these games is so extensive that he's a great resource if there's any game play issue you're having. So, really, why bother getting upset when people don't agree with you?
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Post by dmc1001 on Nov 16, 2016 6:20:40 GMT
I don't know if this would be classed as an unpopular opinion or not, and it is a stupid one I'll go right ahead and say it, but I wish characters like Cortez and Traynor were introduced in ME2 instead of ME3. I would say both could be introduced in ME1. Steve can drive the Mako and Sam does her comms beside the CIC. You'd probably remember better than I, but didn't Steve say he was originally supposed to be a requisitions officer? He doubled as that in ME3 anyway so why not have him replace nameless requisitions officer in ME1? As a shuttle pilot I'm not sure why he'd drive a ground based vehicle. Traynor would have to be shoehorned in. There was no equivalent role prior to ME2 so I don't know what she'd actually do.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2016 9:28:04 GMT
I don't know if this would be classed as an unpopular opinion or not, and it is a stupid one I'll go right ahead and say it, but I wish characters like Cortez and Traynor were introduced in ME2 instead of ME3. I would say both could be introduced in ME1. Steve can drive the Mako and Sam does her comms beside the CIC. Yes, and if it means booting Pressly off, that would be an added bonus.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2016 9:34:47 GMT
I would say both could be introduced in ME1. Steve can drive the Mako and Sam does her comms beside the CIC. You'd probably remember better than I, but didn't Steve say he was originally supposed to be a requisitions officer? He doubled as that in ME3 anyway so why not have him replace nameless requisitions officer in ME1? As a shuttle pilot I'm not sure why he'd drive a ground based vehicle. Traynor would have to be shoehorned in. There was no equivalent role prior to ME2 so I don't know what she'd actually do. Well if there is one thing that the Mass Effect games have done and done well is shoehorn characters in unnecessarily in places. Traynor would be important in ME1 by picking up transmissions like downed probes of ships, which lead to UNC missions. Being able to analyse data to uncover important information. Much like how her role was in ME3. And instead of the stupid planet scanning, replace it and Chambers with Traynor, and instead of glorified secretary like Chambers, Traynor would be able to help find N7 missions. Although I don't think Cortez or Traynor would so easily turn traitor like Joker and Chakwas and wear Cerberus colours. At least Shep can choose not to wear a Cerberus uniform.
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Post by themikefest on Nov 16, 2016 12:42:20 GMT
You'd probably remember better than I, but didn't Steve say he was originally supposed to be a requisitions officer? He doubled as that in ME3 anyway so why not have him replace nameless requisitions officer in ME1? As a shuttle pilot I'm not sure why he'd drive a ground based vehicle. He was assigned to the Normandy for the retrofits. Him being the requisitions officer would work as well. In ME2 he can be the shuttle pilot I agree with what Prince E says about what Traynor could do in ME1 Yes, and if it means booting Pressly off, that would be an added bonus. I would keep him.
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Post by dmc1001 on Nov 16, 2016 13:42:29 GMT
I would say both could be introduced in ME1. Steve can drive the Mako and Sam does her comms beside the CIC. Yes, and if it means booting Pressly off, that would be an added bonus. Pressly was XO. That's not a position Cortez or Traynor could just be slotted into. In ME2, Miranda is the XO, though Shepard didn't have a say in it. I don't know who was XO in ME3. Probably the VS if they come aboard but otherwise unknown.
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Post by gothpunkboy89 on Nov 16, 2016 14:53:50 GMT
Yea I making any attempt to talk to Themmikefest about Liara is a lot like trying to that really racist family member during the holidays who thinks all black people are just moronic thugs who want to render white people extinct by having sex with white women. And just like that racist family member they are proud of their stance and opinions that have absolutely no basis for other then paranoid delusions. Why do you care so much about convincing Mike of anything? It's pretty clear he and I don't necessarily have the same opinions about certain things in these games. Yet, I don't have a problem with him and I don't think he has one with me. The key is to just allow each other to have our opinions rather than try to convince the other to change. It's really that simple. It makes for a much more pleasant experience here. And, to be honest, his knowledge of these games is so extensive that he's a great resource if there's any game play issue you're having. So, really, why bother getting upset when people don't agree with you? This comment was directed at Prince E who was talking to her about Liara. And any attempt to talk to him about the specific subject. People can like or dislike characters all they want but she has consistently pushed it far beyond any logical reason. Which is fairly consistent with him and any issue he finds with the game. She consistently when she finds an issue with something in the game will warp the very reality of the game to make his point valid in her own mind. Don't believe me ask her about the beam run and how apparently the ground shoulders shooting at Harbinger with small arms (compared to what Reapers regularly face) or hiding behind the concrete ruins would have some how made a massive or really any difference. I'm not upset because at this point I literally can not take him seriously. Everyone has their own interpretation of the game and opinions on it but she has consistently pushed it so far beyond the pale that I am incapable of caring. That is why I was responding to Prince E who was unaware of his irrational and rabid hatred of Liara. To the point any attempt to have an conversation with her about said character is a total waste of time because all you will get back is Liara suck repeated on an endless loop.
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