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Post by dmc1001 on May 7, 2017 18:50:17 GMT
Tali, who is a walking Quarian codex in ME1 with almost no personality of her own. Heh, you say that — and I understand exactly what you mean — yet she was still my favourite NPC when I first played ME1. The way she was acted might have had something to do with it, I liked how her demeanour came across. That cheerful "see you later" when Shepard ends a conversation with her is something that I remember drawing me to her. The information about the quarians that her "walking quarian codex" nature provides was the start of my "zomg quarians" fandom too, I remember appreciating the sense of community and togetherness that she describes in ME1. I have also liked Tali from the start. I remember doing a new ME3 game and it had all but two people dead. I forget who lived but Tali and Garrus were both dead. I couldn't imagine that PT without them and had to use an editor to "kill" the two survivors and resurrect Tali and Garrus. So, yes, definitely favorites.
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Post by stephenw32768 on May 7, 2017 19:02:36 GMT
I have also liked Tali from the start. I remember doing a new ME3 game and it had all but two people dead. I forget who lived but Tali and Garrus were both dead. I couldn't imagine that PT without them and had to use an editor to "kill" the two survivors and resurrect Tali and Garrus. So, yes, definitely favorites. I'd quite like to see the way that the Rannoch arc goes in ME3 without Tali present, but the only way I'd be prepared to do it would be to avoid recruiting her in ME2, perhaps headcanoning that Shepard simply never received the dossier or somesuch contrivance. I can't see myself allowing her to die in the SM, and I'd never betray her in her loyalty mission.
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Post by themikefest on May 8, 2017 0:00:35 GMT
I'd quite like to see the way that the Rannoch arc goes in ME3 without Tali present, but the only way I'd be prepared to do it would be to avoid recruiting her in ME2, perhaps headcanoning that Shepard simply never received the dossier or somesuch contrivance. I can't see myself allowing her to die in the SM, and I'd never betray her in her loyalty mission. I've played ME3 many time without Tali in the game. I like having Xen on the dreadnought. If you decide not to recruit Tali in ME3, someone will die because the Normandy doesn't have the shield upgrade. Tali is the one that provides that upgrade. Betraying her during her loyalty mission only means the player won't gain her loyalty. Doesn't mean she will die. She can survive ME2 depending on what choices are made.
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Post by stephenw32768 on May 8, 2017 19:01:42 GMT
Betraying her during her loyalty mission only means the player won't gain her loyalty. Doesn't mean she will die. Aye, but it does still mean betraying her. From a role-playing perspective, that's not a direction that I'd take.
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Post by aslightjump on May 9, 2017 2:57:12 GMT
UO that there is not one MET squaddie that I dislike. I might be kinda eh on some (I feel like I'm one of the few that doesn't get the Wrex thing) and may occasionally be annoyed by others (looking at you, Liara) but there isn't one that I just hate. For that matter, I also don't hate Diana Allers. I would have liked Emily or Khalisah, but Allers is basically harmless in the context of the game.
Also, overall, I think 3 is the best game. (Well, actually, I think 2 is the best but narratively useless so that knocks it below three.)
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Post by duskwanderer on May 9, 2017 14:44:42 GMT
I don't hate Allers either. I thought she was a bad character, but I didn't dislike her. Her email with the extended cut helped a bit.
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Post by dmc1001 on May 9, 2017 15:26:09 GMT
Well, guess for unpopular opinions, I can say I don't dislike Allers at all. There was that one annoying argument she was having with a crew member but I walked away from it. Couldn't see anything good coming of it. She sincerely wanted to use her position to win the war. That meant being on a ship that in theory would be a major target. Otherwise, I don't see the problem with her. Then again, some people's problem was that she was based on someone they don't like.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2017 16:25:03 GMT
My problem with Allers was that I don't think it made any sense for her to be on the Normandy, she's a journalist not a soldier. I think I started playing Mass Effect too late to really develop an issue with her though.
Another opinion that I'm not sure if it is unpopular or not is that I don't like Shepard. I like the companions, the aliens and the general lore (despite the many inconsistencies) but I'm not fond of Shepard. I think I just couldn't relate to her stoic soldier/hero thing.
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Post by dmc1001 on May 9, 2017 16:36:25 GMT
My problem with Allers was that I don't think it made any sense for her to be on the Normandy, she's a journalist not a soldier. I think I started playing Mass Effect too late to really develop an issue with her though. Another opinion that I'm not sure if it is unpopular or not is that I don't like Shepard. I like the companions, the aliens and the general lore (despite the many inconsistencies) but I'm not fond of Shepard. I think I just couldn't relate to her stoic soldier/hero thing. Tbh, I couldn't get into FemShep. I love the hell out of BroShep.
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Post by duskwanderer on May 9, 2017 18:50:22 GMT
My problem with Allers was that I don't think it made any sense for her to be on the Normandy, she's a journalist not a soldier. I think I started playing Mass Effect too late to really develop an issue with her though. Another opinion that I'm not sure if it is unpopular or not is that I don't like Shepard. I like the companions, the aliens and the general lore (despite the many inconsistencies) but I'm not fond of Shepard. I think I just couldn't relate to her stoic soldier/hero thing. Tbh, I couldn't get into FemShep. I love the hell out of BroShep. I never understood why they said Hale's performance was better. I think because she is more well known, but her performance always fell flat. She just sounded vaguely pissed off the whole time. It worked when she was pissed. Otherwise, it didn't.
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Post by Dr. Vanity on May 9, 2017 19:04:08 GMT
Anyone else think that trial in the beginning against Saren made no sense? I get not wanting to drag us out in a lengthy CSI: Citadel case but I think it could have been handled better.
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Post by aslightjump on May 9, 2017 21:12:00 GMT
To me, Meer took more time to grow into the role. ME1 I like Hale's performance better, ME2 and 3 they're evenly matched. I guess my UO is that I don't prefer either one over the other.
Another UO: I hate the Citadel. I don't know if its over exposure or what after having played the game so many times but I hate it. It's time consuming in 1, it's an eyesore in 2, and in 3...you know in 3 it's okay, although it's a bit jarring compared to the rest of the game. I know other people cherish hubs, but I could honestly take them or leave them. (I say this, and I will never not be irritated that Val Royeaux in DAI was like one tiny town center with a few extras.)
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Post by yan on May 10, 2017 1:07:43 GMT
Tbh, I couldn't get into FemShep. I love the hell out of BroShep. I never understood why they said Hale's performance was better. I think because she is more well known, but her performance always fell flat. She just sounded vaguely pissed off the whole time. It worked when she was pissed. Otherwise, it didn't. THIS!!!! And sometimes she seems completely bored with everything in her life.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2017 2:08:27 GMT
I think she did an excellent job in ME1, and Meer a bad one. I can't tell exactly why, but her VA seems to be alive, while Meer's is just too robotic. Meer got better in the sequels and Hale slightly worse--but I think that's not because of her, but because of the directors who I imagine pushed her to sound more emotional.
But I guess the more engaged the voice acting of someone is, the more it goes in a specific direction, one that players may not like or identify with. Meer's job that I find too "robotic" is more neutral in that regard.
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Post by duskwanderer on May 10, 2017 2:26:40 GMT
I think she did an excellent job in ME1, and Meer a bad one. I can't tell exactly why, but her VA seems to be alive, while Meer's is just too robotic. Meer got better in the sequels and Hale slightly worse--but I think that's not because of her, but because of the directors who I imagine pushed her to sound more emotional. But I guess the more engaged the voice acting of someone is, the more it goes in a specific direction, one that players may not like or identify with. Meer's job that I find too "robotic" is more neutral in that regard. I thought he sounded plenty emotional. In the first game, no, but there weren't very many emotional moments there. The only one that springs to mind is "I remember Me", and, while that's a fantastic quest, I could understand Shepard being stoic and firm so as not to scare Talitha. In 2, Meer sounded emotional at the right places. Romantic dialogue was tender, annoyed dialogue was annoyed, and even his laughter sounded a bit better. When FemShep romanced Thane, she just sounded like she was going to shoot someone.
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Post by congokong on May 12, 2017 20:57:14 GMT
General opinions - I prefer playing renegade, at least to an extent, and believe it adds realism - I purposely lose characters or not use persuasion at times to enrich the story - Hackett is a manipulate POS who uses and discards Shepard, and isn't his/her friend; especially one with the ruthless background - I didn't have any real issues with Udina, despite how much Bioware pushes you to, until his coup in ME3
ME1 - I have no problem shooting Wrex, don't like him, feel his character is inconsistent throughout the trilogy, and he's a murderer (ex: his pirate story when he first met Saren)
ME2 - I don't like Grunt and think his introduction is cheesy - I don't like Thane and feel he's a hypocrite - I find Miranda to be boring; constantly talking about her father - Revealing the truth about Tali's father is the morally right thing to do and shouldn't be considered a renegade move
ME3 - I prefer the genophage arc with Wreav - I have no difficulty shooting Mordin, believe he forced Shepard's hand, was intent on dying anyway, and feel it's one of the best non-romance cutscenes in the series - I believe the geth are a timebomb for disaster (more than they already are) like the catalyst suggests - I liked ME3's ending and found the reapers' motivations to be brilliant storytelling
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Post by sugarless on May 26, 2017 4:16:17 GMT
I find ME1 combat and vehicle control such a RSI-inducing chore that it's easier to download a prefab save from MEsaves
Unashamedly enjoy playing a care bear paragon. There's enough renegade in real life.
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Post by duskwanderer on May 30, 2017 21:15:43 GMT
Here's one...
I can't stand Joker. At all. He is the most obnoxious character in ME, and that's saying something.
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Post by aoibhealfae on May 31, 2017 13:54:27 GMT
Here's one... I can't stand Joker. At all. He is the most obnoxious character in ME, and that's saying something. Somehow I wished he was more like Gaius Baltar in Battlestar Galactica... headcanoned tha tJoker is hallucinating EDI after Destroy ending. I for one, NEVER find him funny. But he's like an annoying little brother to my Shepard so I let it slide.
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Post by kalasaurus on May 31, 2017 15:15:57 GMT
I didn't understand the point in killing hundreds of mercs to help your crew in ME2. The worst example was mowing down mercs just to tell Garrus not to shoot Sidonis. Yeah, the mercs are cannon fodder, but... This may be why I liked Samara's loyalty mission.
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Post by dmc1001 on Jun 1, 2017 0:21:40 GMT
I didn't understand the point in killing hundreds of mercs to help your crew in ME2. The worst example was mowing down mercs just to tell Garrus not to shoot Sidonis. Yeah, the mercs are cannon fodder, but... This may be why I liked Samara's loyalty mission. Are you talking about Garrus's recruitment mission? I'm not clear where else, specifically, we kill hundreds of mercs to help our crew. I mean, I kill them on principle because they're nothing more than criminals pretending to run a business, but that's just me.
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Post by kalasaurus on Jun 1, 2017 0:26:38 GMT
I didn't understand the point in killing hundreds of mercs to help your crew in ME2. The worst example was mowing down mercs just to tell Garrus not to shoot Sidonis. Yeah, the mercs are cannon fodder, but... This may be why I liked Samara's loyalty mission. Are you talking about Garrus's recruitment mission? I'm not clear where else, specifically, we kill hundreds of mercs to help our crew. I mean, I kill them on principle because they're nothing more than criminals pretending to run a business, but that's just me. His loyalty mission. Most of the loyalty (and recruitment, actually) missions required killing a bunch of nameless mercs. Or, in Jacob's loyalty mission, killing people suffering brain decay :/
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Post by dmc1001 on Jun 1, 2017 2:26:31 GMT
Are you talking about Garrus's recruitment mission? I'm not clear where else, specifically, we kill hundreds of mercs to help our crew. I mean, I kill them on principle because they're nothing more than criminals pretending to run a business, but that's just me. His loyalty mission. Most of the loyalty (and recruitment, actually) missions required killing a bunch of nameless mercs. Or, in Jacob's loyalty mission, killing people suffering brain decay :/ I guess. It's not really like you set out to kill hundreds of mercs in this instance. Garrus was just out for revenge against the one, which I find to be in line with his personality in ME1. Remember, he's the guy who was willing to sacrifice Dr. Saleon's victims in order to make sure Saleon didn't escape. In the ME2 LM, they were looking for information. Harkin had it and he sent mercs against Garrus. They killed them because they were in the way. As to why Shepard would stop Garrus? Well, there's a difference between killing guys who are shooting at you and assassination. Shepard decided (if you went Paragon) that Sidonis was already in a living hell and that Garrus would be psychologically harmed by killing him. Shepard wasn't concerned about Sidonis but about his friend.
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Post by kalasaurus on Jun 1, 2017 2:38:42 GMT
His loyalty mission. Most of the loyalty (and recruitment, actually) missions required killing a bunch of nameless mercs. Or, in Jacob's loyalty mission, killing people suffering brain decay :/ I guess. It's not really like you set out to kill hundreds of mercs in this instance. Garrus was just out for revenge against the one, which I find to be in line with his personality in ME1. Remember, he's the guy who was willing to sacrifice Dr. Saleon's victims in order to make sure Saleon didn't escape. In the ME2 LM, they were looking for information. Harkin had it and he sent mercs against Garrus. They killed them because they were in the way. As to why Shepard would stop Garrus? Well, there's a difference between killing guys who are shooting at you and assassination. Shepard decided (if you went Paragon) that Sidonis was already in a living hell and that Garrus would be psychologically harmed by killing him. Shepard wasn't concerned about Sidonis but about his friend. It's all there for gameplay. I realize that it sounds silly to criticize shooting people in a shooter. I loved the characters and their core stories in their arcs, but all the shooting random cannon fodder mercs was just unnecessary padding imo.
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Post by Monica21 on Jun 1, 2017 2:39:08 GMT
His loyalty mission. Most of the loyalty (and recruitment, actually) missions required killing a bunch of nameless mercs. Or, in Jacob's loyalty mission, killing people suffering brain decay :/ Well, yeah, but they're shooting at you first. Sure, you do basically slaughter your way through loyalty missions, but it's because the mercs are the bad guys. If they were good guys they wouldn't be trying to kill you.
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