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Post by AnDromedary on Feb 10, 2021 20:31:48 GMT
I don't know. IIRC, Asari Commando's, STG and Blackwatch are all orgnaizations that are generally under supervision of their governments. I am sure the Alliance has some sort of intelligence service, capable of conducting covert operation if necessary (not sure if we ever heard of it bu I am sure it's there).
If i am wrong and they are not accountable at all (or only to some private interests like TIMs), then all of these organizations would be equally bad. Even if they had good intentions (and Cerberus doesn't), they would be bad. For example, personally, I think people like Bill Gates, Elon Musk or even Jeff Bezos probably have generally decent intentions but I didn't want any of them to have their private secret army that is capable of conducting multiple combat operations all over the globe. Similatly, I can't condone a private army in the ME universe even if TIM weren't an evil bastard (and that's before he got himself indoctrinated).
I’m pretty sure the N7 program is humanity’s version of the Asari Commandos, Salarian STG, Turian Blackwatch. But the N7 soldiers are part of the navi (or marines or whatever, it blurs) and they all seem to be celebrities (at least in military circles) to some extent. Also, the huge symbol and red stripe on the armor is kinda counterproductive in clandestine operation. I was hoping the Alliance also had some real intelligence service. They do have the corsairs, which are sort of independent almost mercenary-style contractors or something (Jacob used to be one for a while). But who knows, the Alliance and how exactly it is supposed to work always seems surprisingly poorly described in the games IMO.
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Post by Energizer Bunny 211 on Feb 23, 2021 18:27:48 GMT
I may be off base here but the N7 insignia on the armour, the way I look at it is not unlike the real-world insignia of organizations like the British SAS (Special Air Services), US Army Rangers, Navy SEALS on their uniforms (especially the SEALS Team Six given that their identities are so above Top-Secret that not even their own families know, and that they are often not selected for missions until hours before to ensure that their identities are kept confidential....as far as I know, from having seen movies like "Lone Survivor" and "Act of Valor") And as far as the design of the N7 logo I found this masseffect.fandom.com/wiki/N7
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2021 3:33:03 GMT
From that link, which I had read before, someone added this golden nugget! The Look N77 ski binding was the original source of the name and logo art. The developers simply removed one of the sevens from the original. This actually totally checks out, and I had no idea - but I'll be damned if I didn't own a pair of these bindings at one time
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Post by michaeln7 on May 8, 2021 8:53:57 GMT
I may be off base here but the N7 insignia on the armour, the way I look at it is not unlike the real-world insignia of organizations like the British SAS (Special Air Services), US Army Rangers, Navy SEALS on their uniforms (especially the SEALS Team Six given that their identities are so above Top-Secret that not even their own families know, and that they are often not selected for missions until hours before to ensure that their identities are kept confidential....as far as I know, from having seen movies like "Lone Survivor" and "Act of Valor") And as far as the design of the N7 logo I found this masseffect.fandom.com/wiki/N7I suppose I always saw the red trapezoid-thing as looking like a bulwark, a kind of "last line of defense" type of thing. The curvature of the "N" gives off the feeling of flexibility, i.e. adaptability. Whereas the "7" is sharp and strong, unyielding. But perhaps I'm reading too much into the 'poetry' or 'symbolism' of it.
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Post by cloud9 on May 13, 2021 20:37:35 GMT
The Boys is a better TV show than Invincible.
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Post by dmc1001 on May 15, 2021 4:55:03 GMT
The Boys is a better TV show than Invincible. Lies. If you'd said The Boys comic vs Invincible comic, maybe I'd agree.
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Post by cloud9 on May 16, 2021 13:09:12 GMT
The Boys is a better TV show than Invincible. Lies. If you'd said The Boys comic vs Invincible comic, maybe I'd agree. The Boys show is far better than the comics. Invincible is just a typical superhero story w/subverted expectations and excessive blood and gore. Besides, I've already read the Invincible comic and the writing is contrived, forced narratives, and abusing redemption arcs. And the final episode made me despise Invincible series even more, and I already know what is going to happen next. Since, they're faithful to the comics. The Boys on the other hand, improved the story from the comic that superheroes are immoral, corrupt, no regard for human life and how people are brainwashed by media and propaganda. it's philosophical, and the characters are well written.
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Post by dmc1001 on May 16, 2021 15:57:08 GMT
Lies. If you'd said The Boys comic vs Invincible comic, maybe I'd agree. The Boys show is far better than the comics. Invincible is just a typical superhero story w/subverted expectations and excessive blood and gore. Besides, I've already read the Invincible comic and the writing is contrived, forced narratives, and abusing redemption arcs. And the final episode made me despise Invincible series even more, and I already know what is going to happen next. Since, they're faithful to the comics. The Boys on the other hand, improved the story from the comic that superheroes are immoral, corrupt, no regard for human life and how people are brainwashed by media and propaganda. it's philosophical, and the characters are well written. I'll confess to never reading the Invincible book. I was just taking a stab at it. I have read The Boys comic and found it superior to the show. Much bloodier, for sure. And, let's be honest, are we seeing the stuff Homelander did in the comics that won't ever appear in the TV show? Necrophilia? Cannibalism? That said, I'm behind on the TV series so maybe this stuff came up.
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Post by azarhal on May 17, 2021 11:36:05 GMT
While I was (re)playing MELE ME1 I was thinking a lot about how ME2/ME3 writers (mostly ME3) really dropped the plot (which in itself isn't an unpopular opinion).
The Reapers should have been machines that harvest organics to create bioenergy/dark energy to recharge themselves and "procreation". Just simple "machine gone wrong" where they creator designed them to self-replicate like that and they just "grew and started to eat more" with time so they came up with their honey trap/Milky Way Garden to sustain themselves.
The whole "AI vs organic" crap was just terrible storytelling, especially when there was already the Geths vs Quarians to explore that.
Also, the synthesis ending in ME3, it's what Saren was talking about at the end of ME1. I'm going to consider it ME3 bad ending from now on as it was clearly an idea influenced by Sovereign.
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Post by dmc1001 on May 17, 2021 16:21:36 GMT
The whole "AI vs organic" crap was just terrible storytelling, especially when there was already the Geths vs Quarians to explore that. Also inconsistent with the lore. There is legit lore showing that the Reapers created division between organics and synthetics that didn't otherwise exist. To a limited extent, this was enough true with a least a faction of the geth. Yes, they were at odds with quarians - something the quarians themselves forced - but they mostly ignored organics unless they trespassed into their territory. Until the Reapers came along.
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Post by MegaIllusiveMan on May 17, 2021 16:33:04 GMT
While I was (re)playing MELE ME1 I was thinking a lot about how ME2/ME3 writers (mostly ME3) really dropped the plot (which in itself isn't an unpopular opinion). The Reapers should have been machines that harvest organics to create bioenergy/dark energy to recharge themselves and "procreation". Just simple "machine gone wrong" where they creator designed them to self-replicate like that and they just "grew and started to eat more" with time so they came up with their honey trap/Milky Way Garden to sustain themselves. Yeah, that's what happens when your writer leaves halfway through the trilogy and the second game. And then Walters and Hudson assume control on writing the ending by themselves. It seems like a Frankenstein, connecting all the major points under different visions, and ending up with something that doesn't even start making sense.
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Post by azarhal on May 17, 2021 17:12:06 GMT
While I was (re)playing MELE ME1 I was thinking a lot about how ME2/ME3 writers (mostly ME3) really dropped the plot (which in itself isn't an unpopular opinion). The Reapers should have been machines that harvest organics to create bioenergy/dark energy to recharge themselves and "procreation". Just simple "machine gone wrong" where they creator designed them to self-replicate like that and they just "grew and started to eat more" with time so they came up with their honey trap/Milky Way Garden to sustain themselves. Yeah, that's what happens when your writer leaves halfway through the trilogy and the second game. And then Walters and Hudson assume control on writing the ending by themselves. It seems like a Frankenstein, connecting all the major points under different visions, and ending up with something that doesn't even start making sense. The main writer original idea wasn't even what I wrote...
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Post by MegaIllusiveMan on May 17, 2021 18:10:52 GMT
Yeah, that's what happens when your writer leaves halfway through the trilogy and the second game. And then Walters and Hudson assume control on writing the ending by themselves. It seems like a Frankenstein, connecting all the major points under different visions, and ending up with something that doesn't even start making sense. The main writer original idea wasn't even what I wrote... Oh, my bad, the quote went wrong. I was replying to that first line of yours, about the dropped plots through the trilogy.
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Post by therevanchist25 on May 23, 2021 21:48:30 GMT
So, idk if this has been stated or not, I don't feel like going through 60 pages to find out lol.
Punching the reporter is stupid, and just makes you a psychopath.
Fight me.
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Post by RedCaesar97 on May 23, 2021 22:47:18 GMT
So, idk if this has been stated or not, I don't feel like going through 60 pages to find out lol. Punching the reporter is stupid, and just makes you a psychopath. Fight me. And that is why only my female psychopath Shepards do it. My psycho male Shepards do not because of "bad optics".
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Post by Zemgus on May 24, 2021 7:39:35 GMT
So, idk if this has been stated or not, I don't feel like going through 60 pages to find out lol. Punching the reporter is stupid, and just makes you a psychopath. Fight me. And that is why only my female psychopath Shepards do it. My psycho male Shepards do not because of "bad optics". My Shepard did it in ME2 when he was drunk and in a bad place mentally. It was the lowest point of his life.
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Post by therevanchist25 on May 24, 2021 7:54:23 GMT
The new ME1 elevators are hilariously too fast. you should be paste on the elevator when it stops at breakneck speed.
Now that the Mako no longer gimps experience gains, it's the best vehicle in the franchise by a mile.
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Post by Vortex13 on May 25, 2021 17:22:50 GMT
Krogan are whitewashed for their actions during the rebellions, and routinely touted as victims of a bigoted galaxy, yet will pull a gun out and try to murder you the moment you disagree with their wishes.
The Rachni (if freed in ME 1) do everything in their power to help prepare and fight the incoming invasion, even going so far as to agree to suicide for the benefit of other species, yet are reviled as 'creepy space bugs'; their end celebrated by making wise cracks and Aliens references.
Out of the two species the Rachni have done more to atone for past wrongs and build trust with the wider galaxy than the Krogan ever do. Yet one is BioWare's favorite victim race and the other is not.
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Post by azarhal on May 25, 2021 18:04:47 GMT
After (re)playing Mass Effect trilogy via the LE (almost done with ME3), my "best Mass Effect game" ranking is now: MEA, ME1, ME3 and dead last ME2.
While playing ME1, I realized that MEA improved so much on that game design. I keep expecting banter while driving the Mako and I wished for some Mako upgrades. I tried to jump a few times. The followers are so one-note/info dumps in ME1 compared to the Tempest gang. Combat is so much better in MEA as is character building. Even the story, the only thing I find great in ME1 story is Sovereign/Vigil conversations and Feros. The rest is meh. MEA has so many cool main story mission, rescuing the Moshea, the Archon Ship, exploring Khi Tasira and the final is awesome. The followers missions are great too.
ME3 is actually quite fun, but the galaxy map exploration is awful and the storyline is so contrived and linear.
Replaying ME2, I was frustrated so many times. Frustrated by the game forcing me to do certain mission at certain points. Frustrated by the combat/squadmates AI. Frustrated by the plot that makes no sense. Frustrated by the lack of "planet exploration" (ME3 has more planet side missions). Event the final mission, which I remember thinking how great it was in the past, felt a bit meh. I prefer MEA final story mission to the Suicide Mission. I didn't even find the renegade action to push the guy out of the window in the Thane recruiting mission as amusing as before...yet I'm not hating on my Renegade Shepard at all unlike the first time I played one in ME2.
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on May 25, 2021 19:15:33 GMT
After (re)playing Mass Effect trilogy via the LE (almost done with ME3), my "best Mass Effect game" ranking is now: MEA, ME1, ME3 and dead last ME2. While playing ME1, I realized that MEA improved so much on that game design. I keep expecting banter while driving the Mako and I wished for some Mako upgrades. I tried to jump a few times. The followers are so one-note/info dumps in ME1 compared to the Tempest gang. Combat is so much better in MEA as is character building. Even the story, the only thing I find great in ME1 story is Sovereign/Vigil conversations and Feros. The rest is meh. MEA has so many cool main story mission, rescuing the Moshea, the Archon Ship, exploring Khi Tasira and the final is awesome. The followers missions are great too. ME3 is actually quite fun, but the galaxy map exploration is awful and the storyline is so contrived and linear. Replaying ME2, I was frustrated so many times. Frustrated by the game forcing me to do certain mission at certain points. Frustrated by the combat/squadmates AI. Frustrated by the plot that makes no sense. Frustrated by the lack of "planet exploration" (ME3 has more planet side missions). Event the final mission, which I remember thinking how great it was in the past, felt a bit meh. I prefer MEA final story mission to the Suicide Mission. I didn't even find the renegade action to push the guy out of the window in the Thane recruiting mission as amusing as before...yet I'm not hating on my Renegade Shepard at all unlike the first time I played one in ME2. Are you me? Are you? Because you sound really like how I experienced and feel after playing MEA & OT a couple of times together . I mean OT is good, but man did MEA do so much of the things much better? Elevated to another level.
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After (re)playing Mass Effect trilogy via the LE (almost done with ME3), my "best Mass Effect game" ranking is now: MEA, ME1, ME3 and dead last ME2. While playing ME1, I realized that MEA improved so much on that game design. I keep expecting banter while driving the Mako and I wished for some Mako upgrades. I tried to jump a few times. The followers are so one-note/info dumps in ME1 compared to the Tempest gang. Combat is so much better in MEA as is character building. Even the story, the only thing I find great in ME1 story is Sovereign/Vigil conversations and Feros. The rest is meh. MEA has so many cool main story mission, rescuing the Moshea, the Archon Ship, exploring Khi Tasira and the final is awesome. The followers missions are great too. ME3 is actually quite fun, but the galaxy map exploration is awful and the storyline is so contrived and linear. Replaying ME2, I was frustrated so many times. Frustrated by the game forcing me to do certain mission at certain points. Frustrated by the combat/squadmates AI. Frustrated by the plot that makes no sense. Frustrated by the lack of "planet exploration" (ME3 has more planet side missions). Event the final mission, which I remember thinking how great it was in the past, felt a bit meh. I prefer MEA final story mission to the Suicide Mission. I didn't even find the renegade action to push the guy out of the window in the Thane recruiting mission as amusing as before...yet I'm not hating on my Renegade Shepard at all unlike the first time I played one in ME2. Are you me? Are you? Because you sound really like how I experienced and feel after playing MEA & OT a couple of times together . I mean OT is good, but man did MEA do so much of the things much better? Elevated to another level. We must be triplets, then... although I always felt ME:A was a great game from the very first time I played it.
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Post by Phantom on May 25, 2021 20:07:18 GMT
So, idk if this has been stated or not, I don't feel like going through 60 pages to find out lol. Punching the reporter is stupid, and just makes you a psychopath. Fight me. I fight you. Punching the Reporter make your shepard to have poor impulse control thus can't be a proper psychopath. But it does make Reporter Punching Shepard a potential sociopath and Sociopaths are known for their piss poor impulse control. I do think Cerberus Phantoms are worthy enemies and it will be trollish yet funny for Bioware to have a Future player character to be one and take over Cerberus.
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Post by Phantom on May 25, 2021 20:09:20 GMT
Also that reporter has a punch-able face
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Post by MegaIllusiveMan on May 26, 2021 19:02:49 GMT
1 -I don't see the issue with Diana Allers 2 -I liked ME3 Endings 3 -I liked Anderson and Shep Bromance 4 -Garrus is cool, but way too hyped 5 -Mark Meer is better Shepard than Jeniffer Hale 6 -I actually like Kai Leng 7 -Joker should've stayed quiet post-Thessia 8 -Kaidan should've stayed straight 9 -I don't like Traynor that much 10 -EDI is okay by my book 11 -I like how the Illusive Man was handed from the beggining to start 12 -Priority:Earth was great I'll add more if I think of any, been a while since I've played it. Edit: Oh, yeah. Citadel DLC Ending will never be my headcannon Oh, boy, I didn't even remember that. 1 - Still true 2 - Still true, but if the story itself was made differently and we got another ending that could continue the ME journey without us being afraid of retcons and such, it would be best. 3 - Yeah, true. 4 - Garrus is great, not just cool. He doesn't suffer from the walking codex entry from ME1 Squadmates that much, and even if he has just two conversations if you don't want to engage on a romance with him, those are still meaningful conversations and make more sense not having him say much since he's pratically a open book between his Recruitment and Loyalty Mission and the first conversation about how his team was betrayed. It's simple, actually, doesn't have any moral philosophy like Thane's "gun or assassin" thing, or Jack's refusal to allow someone to enter her "space". 5 - Both are great. Some lines are delivered differently through the trilogy, but at the time I was biased because I played Renegade FemShep, and Meer's were a blast. Replaying as a Paragon FemShep now, I can see why many people like her. 6 - He's still OK, I guess. 7 - He shouldn't have. The issue with that scene is how Shepard is "forced" to react, instead of giving the player some ability about how to deal with the situation. 8 - True as ever. 9 - Still true. It's somewhat a stereotype. "Cute-Akward Girl" that needs to find her place outside the box. 10 - Dear God, no. It seems to me that this is what most changed. I don't like how the robot-human interaction with Joker and EDI goes. Joker keeps pushing with weird comments like a pervert the first time seeing her, her jokes are not that funny and the timing is way akward, just like a Marvel movie where you expect something serious from someone and "hey, it's a joke" 11 - True! 12 - Not that great. Mods have done it better. Oh, what it could have been...
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