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Post by phoray on Nov 7, 2016 16:47:43 GMT
Sorry, I hadn't noticed you mentioning the second scene. But your initial argument was that Justice is Anders and that it was only danger that fuels Justices takeovers. The only danger in that scene is that Anders might not do what JUSTICE wants. And my statement was that Justice is too possessive to be a mere spirit. ...or: Anders called him. He was certain in himself, when he tried to explain his causes to Hawke, but Hawke don't wanted to understand these. To me, Anders can not seem to convinced. Rather seemed he retired. We know, that Anders not a good conflict-tolerant, at least he wasn't good in this before Justice. To believe that, would be to believe that he's being childish, & a manipulative liar when he asked what was said/happened during the black out. That he is using Justice as a scape goat for his opinions. |
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Post by Catilina on Nov 7, 2016 17:00:07 GMT
...or: Anders called him. He was certain in himself, when he tried to explain his causes to Hawke, but Hawke don't wanted to understand these. To me, Anders can not seem to convinced. Rather seemed he retired. We know, that Anders not a good conflict-tolerant, at least he wasn't good in this before Justice. To believe that, would be to believe that he's being childish, & a manipulative liar when he asked what was said/happened during the black out. That he is using Justice as a scape goat for his opinions. This is not childish or manipulative (but yes, as I see, Anders can be manipulative... several times he escaped, but he survived. ( "I'm charming"). You don't found, that he has convinced too easily? In one moment he defended his position yet, immediately after said, maybe you're right. I think he just retreated. UPDATED:But this is just an idea. Greater the likelihood that Anders really disliked that he will blow up the Chantry, because he is a good man, and not a psychopath (although many people say ...), so he don't enjoy to do it. He know that he should do that, but of course this horrific to him. Hawke just said what he knew, and felt. And here came out Justice, who can't let Anders be uncertain. Justice not "good" spirit, he never was "good", and not "evil" spirit – as I see. Justice is truth, and in a real situation Justice is in trouble. Out of the Fade the situation is more complicated, there is no clear truth. This is why Justice changed, and seems evil. Because Anders support the mages, Justice support the mages as well, but In contrast to Anders, he didn't feel anything, only follow the purpose, and this purpose now seems in danger. |
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Post by phoray on Nov 7, 2016 20:08:10 GMT
To believe that, would be to believe that he's being childish, & a manipulative liar when he asked what was said/happened during the black out. That he is using Justice as a scape goat for his opinions. This is not childish or manipulative (but yes, as I see, Anders can be manipulative... several times he escaped, but he survived. ( "I'm charming"). You don't found, that he has convinced too easily? In one moment he defended his position yet, immediately after said, maybe you're right. I think he just retreated. UPDATED:But this is just an idea. Greater the likelihood that Anders really disliked that he will blow up the Chantry, because he is a good man, and not a psychopath (although many people say ...), so he don't enjoy to do it. He know that he should do that, but of course this horrific to him. Hawke just said what he knew, and felt. And here came out Justice, who can't let Anders be uncertain. Justice not "good" spirit, he never was "good", and not "evil" spirit – as I see. Justice is truth, and in a real situation Justice is in trouble. Out of the Fade the situation is more complicated, there is no clear truth. This is why Justice changed, and seems evil. Because Anders support the mages, Justice support the mages as well, but In contrast to Anders, he didn't feel anything, only follow the purpose, and this purpose now seems in danger. This is how I view the scene. As the argument goes on, Justice is rising, guiding his emotions towards supporting the verbal statements Anders makes that there can be no compromise. At the same time, Anders is warring against that feeling, creating a cluster of frustration and confusion Justice doesn't like dealing with. Justice/Vengeance finally bursts forth as a result, disliking the feelings of frustration and confusion immensely; to Justice, it is black and white, and anyone who opposes his WHITE should be gone, especially if someone else's shade of gray is confusing his host from the path Justice wants to take him on. Justice returns to the darkness of Anders' subconscious, and Anders realizes from the gap in his memory and Hawke's facial expression of alarm/concern/anger that he has, once again, had a black out. Hawke confirms this, and that Justice wants Hawke gone. It hits Anders full strength that he is absolutely not in control of himself, his emotions, his thoughts. What has his body, controlled by Justice, been doing that he can't remember? What does he really believe is the right thing? how much of his actions are Justice manipulating his mind? in a moment when Justice is at his weakest, because the spirit has just finished manifesting and is tired, Anders expresses his doubts and fears to Hawke. Justice nearly killed/did kill a mage just for calling him a demon. Justice told the love of his life/best friend to leave Anders completely alone in the middle of a lively debate. Hawke may, no is, right to be against the merge of Justice and Anders, and Anders says so. If you were right about the whole scene being Anders manipulating Hawke into a state of complacence, Anders is a murdering sociopath and I would never want to romance him. So, I'm going to go with my version.  |
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Post by Catilina on Nov 7, 2016 20:47:06 GMT
This is not childish or manipulative (but yes, as I see, Anders can be manipulative... several times he escaped, but he survived. ( "I'm charming"). You don't found, that he has convinced too easily? In one moment he defended his position yet, immediately after said, maybe you're right. I think he just retreated. UPDATED:But this is just an idea. Greater the likelihood that Anders really disliked that he will blow up the Chantry, because he is a good man, and not a psychopath (although many people say ...), so he don't enjoy to do it. He know that he should do that, but of course this horrific to him. Hawke just said what he knew, and felt. And here came out Justice, who can't let Anders be uncertain. Justice not "good" spirit, he never was "good", and not "evil" spirit – as I see. Justice is truth, and in a real situation Justice is in trouble. Out of the Fade the situation is more complicated, there is no clear truth. This is why Justice changed, and seems evil. Because Anders support the mages, Justice support the mages as well, but In contrast to Anders, he didn't feel anything, only follow the purpose, and this purpose now seems in danger. This is how I view the scene. As the argument goes on, Justice is rising, guiding his emotions towards supporting the verbal statements Anders makes that there can be no compromise. At the same time, Anders is warring against that feeling, creating a cluster of frustration and confusion Justice doesn't like dealing with. Justice/Vengeance finally bursts forth as a result, disliking the feelings of frustration and confusion immensely; to Justice, it is black and white, and anyone who opposes his WHITE should be gone, especially if someone else's shade of gray is confusing his host from the path Justice wants to take him on. Justice returns to the darkness of Anders' subconscious, and Anders realizes from the gap in his memory and Hawke's facial expression of alarm/concern/anger that he has, once again, had a black out. Hawke confirms this, and that Justice wants Hawke gone. It hits Anders full strength that he is absolutely not in control of himself, his emotions, his thoughts. What has his body, controlled by Justice, been doing that he can't remember? What does he really believe is the right thing? how much of his actions are Justice manipulating his mind? in a moment when Justice is at his weakest, because the spirit has just finished manifesting and is tired, Anders expresses his doubts and fears to Hawke. Justice nearly killed/did kill a mage just for calling him a demon. Justice told the love of his life/best friend to leave Anders completely alone in the middle of a lively debate. Hawke may, no is, right to be against the merge of Justice and Anders, and Anders says so. ____ 2. If you were right about the whole scene being Anders manipulating Hawke into a state of complacence, Anders is a murdering sociopath and I would never want to romance him. So, I'm going to go with my version. From back to front: 2. This is not really willful manipulation, rather instinctive, as I see. Andres retreat, because feel, that it's a murder, but he don't believe, that Hawke's right (because really don't exist the peaceful solution in Kirkwall), so he call Justice. Not directly. They are one now, they feel each other's thoughts, and when Anders see, that Hawke can't understand his arguments, he probably want a help, because he became uncertain. As i wrote before, this is only a suddenly came idea, I'm absolutely not sure about it, then if you think too terrible, of course, better, if you simply ignore this. ____ 1. As I see it, however, if Justice has become such unpredictable, malicious demon, then Hawke MUST to kill Anders. Anders in this case a great threat. He is an abomination. Just let him go away, this is a huge irresponsibility. This is the reasons why I prefer my version. Maybe I'm too sentimental. I prefer my red-handed revolutionary, who know, what he did, take responsibility for his action, and don't lose himself. It's no problem, if we don't agree, we are not same, and don't need to be same. This is an interesting talk, because I never tried the rivalry, and this gave me a new viewpoint. I dont think, I like it, but still interesting. |
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Post by phoray on Nov 7, 2016 22:25:33 GMT
1. This is how I view the scene. As the argument goes on, Justice is rising, guiding his emotions towards supporting the verbal statements Anders makes that there can be no compromise. At the same time, Anders is warring against that feeling, creating a cluster of frustration and confusion Justice doesn't like dealing with. Justice/Vengeance finally bursts forth as a result, disliking the feelings of frustration and confusion immensely; to Justice, it is black and white, and anyone who opposes his WHITE should be gone, especially if someone else's shade of gray is confusing his host from the path Justice wants to take him on. Justice returns to the darkness of Anders' subconscious, and Anders realizes from the gap in his memory and Hawke's facial expression of alarm/concern/anger that he has, once again, had a black out. Hawke confirms this, and that Justice wants Hawke gone. It hits Anders full strength that he is absolutely not in control of himself, his emotions, his thoughts. What has his body, controlled by Justice, been doing that he can't remember? What does he really believe is the right thing? how much of his actions are Justice manipulating his mind? in a moment when Justice is at his weakest, because the spirit has just finished manifesting and is tired, Anders expresses his doubts and fears to Hawke. Justice nearly killed/did kill a mage just for calling him a demon. Justice told the love of his life/best friend to leave Anders completely alone in the middle of a lively debate. Hawke may, no is, right to be against the merge of Justice and Anders, and Anders says so. ____ 2. If you were right about the whole scene being Anders manipulating Hawke into a state of complacence, Anders is a murdering sociopath and I would never want to romance him. So, I'm going to go with my version. From back to front: 2. This is not really willful manipulation, rather instinctive, as I see. Andres retreat, because feel, that it's a murder, but he don't believe, that Hawke's right (because really don't exist the peaceful solution in Kirkwall), so he call Justice. Not directly. They are one now, they feel each other's thoughts, and when Anders see, that Hawke can't understand his arguments, he probably want a help, because he became uncertain. As i wrote before, this is only a suddenly came idea, I'm absolutely not sure about it, then if you think too terrible, of course, better, if you simply ignore this. ____ 1. As I see it, however, if Justice has become such unpredictable, malicious demon, then Hawke MUST to kill Anders. Anders in this case a great threat. He is an abomination. Just let him go away, this is a huge irresponsibility. This is the reasons why I prefer my version. Maybe I'm too sentimental. I prefer my red-handed revolutionary, who know, what he did, take responsibility for his action, and don't lose himself. It's no problem, if we don't agree, we are not same, and don't need to be same. This is an interesting talk, because I never tried the rivalry, and this gave me a new viewpoint. I dont think, I like it, but still interesting. 2. That part would be okay; feeling uncomfortable, and subconsiously calling on Justice, even if he ended up not approving of what Justice specifically said.. I thought you were implying that, when he said to Hawke, "I just blacked out, what did I do?" and "Maybe you were right and Justice and I shouldn't have merged," were both lies to appease Hawke and make the argument/debate end. THAT would be cowardly as well as indicate a level of dissembling that I find antithema to his personality. If he were capable of it, I would think he was a sociopath. It would bring into question every statement he's ever made; to my Wardens AND to my Hawkes. 1. Yes. The people who believe this way suggest that the execution is more of a release. A release from the 10 year hostage situation Anders didn't know he was in until recently. It would then be the kindest most right thing to do to kill him, just like it was right to kill Karl. However, just because it's the right thing to do wouldn't mean all Hawkes do the right thing. When love is involved, it can be very selfish. That's why my rivalmance of Anders, she punished him and made him annul the Circle. But my next rivalmance of Anders, she will keep him alive, save the Circle, to go to Tevinter or Avaar to find a way to separate Vengeance from Justice. And since Bioware never tells you what happens to Anders, I can head canon a separation that is successful, but Justice dies as spirits do- going back to a wisp. It is kind to Justice as well to end his corrupted spirit/demon ness. He doesn't want to be that way either. I'm not saying EVERY play through will be a rival of Anders. My Reagan Hawke will be friends with him, then exile him. I still think he will be okay in that world, not become a crazy hermit like that sad picture showed. I am also not saying we need to be the same. I am enjoying the discussion as well. |
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Post by Catilina on Nov 7, 2016 23:23:08 GMT
From back to front: 2. This is not really willful manipulation, rather instinctive, as I see. Andres retreat, because feel, that it's a murder, but he don't believe, that Hawke's right (because really don't exist the peaceful solution in Kirkwall), so he call Justice. Not directly. They are one now, they feel each other's thoughts, and when Anders see, that Hawke can't understand his arguments, he probably want a help, because he became uncertain. As i wrote before, this is only a suddenly came idea, I'm absolutely not sure about it, then if you think too terrible, of course, better, if you simply ignore this. ____ 1. As I see it, however, if Justice has become such unpredictable, malicious demon, then Hawke MUST to kill Anders. Anders in this case a great threat. He is an abomination. Just let him go away, this is a huge irresponsibility. This is the reasons why I prefer my version. Maybe I'm too sentimental. I prefer my red-handed revolutionary, who know, what he did, take responsibility for his action, and don't lose himself. It's no problem, if we don't agree, we are not same, and don't need to be same. This is an interesting talk, because I never tried the rivalry, and this gave me a new viewpoint. I dont think, I like it, but still interesting. 2. That part would be okay; feeling uncomfortable, and subconsiously calling on Justice, even if he ended up not approving of what Justice specifically said.. I thought you were implying that, when he said to Hawke, "I just blacked out, what did I do?" and "Maybe you were right and Justice and I shouldn't have merged," were both lies to appease Hawke and make the argument/debate end. THAT would be cowardly as well as indicate a level of dissembling that I find antithema to his personality. If he were capable of it, I would think he was a sociopath. It would bring into question every statement he's ever made; to my Wardens AND to my Hawkes. 1. Yes. The people who believe this way suggest that the execution is more of a release. A release from the 10 year hostage situation Anders didn't know he was in until recently. It would then be the kindest most right thing to do to kill him, just like it was right to kill Karl. However, just because it's the right thing to do wouldn't mean all Hawkes do the right thing. When love is involved, it can be very selfish. That's why my rivalmance of Anders, she punished him and made him annul the Circle. But my next rivalmance of Anders, she will keep him alive, save the Circle, to go to Tevinter or Avaar to find a way to separate Vengeance from Justice. And since Bioware never tells you what happens to Anders, I can head canon a separation that is successful, but Justice dies as spirits do- going back to a wisp. It is kind to Justice as well to end his corrupted spirit/demon ness. He doesn't want to be that way either. I'm not saying EVERY play through will be a rival of Anders. My Reagan Hawke will be friends with him, then exile him. I still think he will be okay in that world, not become a crazy hermit like that sad picture showed. I am also not saying we need to be the same. I am enjoying the discussion as well. I badly formulated, yes, of course, killing him, if Vengeance is a demon, and if Hawke thought, that he is an Abomination, and don't trust him is the best solution, but not the one. Yes, I agree, the love is can be selfish and illogic, and it's not excluded, that exist alternative solution to separate them. As I see it, crush him and then exile him the worst option, but I can imagine that someone is not able to kill him after ten years of friendship/love, but also can't continue the relationship, as if nothing had happened. You know, my favorite to stay with him. But I have Hawke, who killed him (not in romance, and he finally turned to Templar side, because of Carver.), I dont have Hawke, who exiled him.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2016 1:03:22 GMT
This is not childish or manipulative (but yes, as I see, Anders can be manipulative... several times he escaped, but he survived. ( "I'm charming"). You don't found, that he has convinced too easily? In one moment he defended his position yet, immediately after said, maybe you're right. I think he just retreated. UPDATED:But this is just an idea. Greater the likelihood that Anders really disliked that he will blow up the Chantry, because he is a good man, and not a psychopath (although many people say ...), so he don't enjoy to do it. He know that he should do that, but of course this horrific to him. Hawke just said what he knew, and felt. And here came out Justice, who can't let Anders be uncertain. Justice not "good" spirit, he never was "good", and not "evil" spirit – as I see. Justice is truth, and in a real situation Justice is in trouble. Out of the Fade the situation is more complicated, there is no clear truth. This is why Justice changed, and seems evil. Because Anders support the mages, Justice support the mages as well, but In contrast to Anders, he didn't feel anything, only follow the purpose, and this purpose now seems in danger. If you were right about the whole scene being Anders manipulating Hawke into a state of complacence, Anders is a murdering sociopath and I would never want to romance him. So, I'm going to go with my version. Lol, reminds me of Solas... and I'm doing his romance (5th time I've defeated the game, lol).  |
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Post by themikefest on Nov 26, 2016 4:56:09 GMT
Who? Isabela
Why? I like the way she threw her dagger at the mercenary in the chantry
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Post by Trilobite Derby on Dec 13, 2016 2:40:09 GMT
Mmmm, Sebastian.
I'm actually not joking, but it's been a long time since I played DA2 and a longer time since I hit on Sebastian. I'm doing it now, but I'm trying to do the rivalry route, and I'm struggling. HE KEEPS LIKING IT WHEN I'M NOT A JERK BUT DAMNIT I NEED THAT PRETTY ARCHER-BOY TO WANT TO BE KING
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Post by Gilsa on Dec 14, 2016 8:09:34 GMT
I don't pick out LIs in advance. I just go with whoever makes me laugh first or whoever leaves a strong impression. I'm pretty sure I was eyeballing Sebastian at the onset (bought the DLC the day the game came out because some magazine said he was a love interest). I played as a mage and Fenris just provided this really interesting dynamic between the two of them so I was intrigued enough to go along with it. I very much enjoyed how that played out. Isabela pissed me off on my first game because she put me in a tough position, however, I just loved aggressive Hawke with Isabela. That was one of my favorite pairings because no matter how crazy Isabela drives Hawke, there comes a moment when Hawke flat out decides she's absolutely worth fighting for. It's wonderful to see how that relationship evolves over ten years.
Never romanced Sebastian after all that, go figure.
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Post by lovelypumpkin on Dec 17, 2016 5:44:23 GMT
On my first play-through as a female mage I chose to romance Fenris. It was entirely a "I'll make you love me, even as a mage!" thing for me, but I really value Fenris as a character, he is easily one of my favorites. There is something intriguing about the broody, mysterious and troubled elf. At first he was incredibly annoying with his snarky attitude and refusal to agree to any dialogue I chose. He seemed to be a very miserable character, then things began to progress in a positive light, so his quick wit and open flirtation shone through. Finally, I then sympathized and fell in love with how his character was written.
Second play-through as a female rogue archer, I romanced Anders. This stemmed from how much I enjoyed his character in Dragon Age: Origins, though. He did change, a lot. His voice especially (different VA) got better. He became more serious and the fact that he was kind of, sort of possessed by a demon with a sexier voice than his own, was oddly satisfying. I know, I'm incredibly strange. His character was incredibly troubled and I was playing a Hawke who wanted to "fix" him. Although, I detest his character in Dragon Age 2. He was a whiny little shit, complained about everything and was never entirely satisfied. He was flirty from the beginning, right after he killed someone he was supposedly romantically involved with! He became a drama queen and tried pushing Hawke away, but then acted like he couldn't control his bloody hormones.
On top of that he freaking blew up the Chantry on his own free will. He had no control over Justice, which meant he had pretty limited control over himself. He had solid points when it came to a Mage's freedom, but personally I don't think mages should have complete freedom, because as seen in all three games, magic is very dangerous and mages are always at a risk of possession and should be monitored by Templars, but not kept locked away from the rest of the world because they possess magical abilities.
Last and third play-through as (once again) a female rogue archer, I romanced Merill, despite me having no attraction to women, Merill was by far the sweetest darn thing. She was beyond cute and that was my reason for romancing her.
Favorite romance was Fenris. I appreciated the sulking and witty elf more than I care to explain.
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Post by Catilina on Dec 17, 2016 6:44:18 GMT
On my first play-through as a female mage I chose to romance Fenris. It was entirely a "I'll make you love me, even as a mage!" thing for me, but I really value Fenris as a character, he is easily one of my favorites. There is something intriguing about the broody, mysterious and troubled elf. At first he was incredibly annoying with his snarky attitude and refusal to agree to any dialogue I chose. He seemed to be a very miserable character, then things began to progress in a positive light, so his quick wit and open flirtation shone through. Finally, I then sympathized and fell in love with how his character was written.
Second play-through as a female rogue archer, I romanced Anders. This stemmed from how much I enjoyed his character in Dragon Age: Origins, though. He did change, a lot. His voice especially (different VA) got better. He became more serious and the fact that he was kind of, sort of possessed by a demon with a sexier voice than his own, was oddly satisfying. I know, I'm incredibly strange. His character was incredibly troubled and I was playing a Hawke who wanted to "fix" him. Although, I detest his character in Dragon Age 2. He was a whiny little shit, complained about everything and was never entirely satisfied. He was flirty from the beginning, right after he killed someone he was supposedly romantically involved with! He became a drama queen and tried pushing Hawke away, but then acted like he couldn't control his bloody hormones.
On top of that he freaking blew up the Chantry on his own free will. He had no control over Justice, which meant he had pretty limited control over himself. He had solid points when it came to a Mage's freedom, but personally I don't think mages should have complete freedom, because as seen in all three games, magic is very dangerous and mages are always at a risk of possession and should be monitored by Templars, but not kept locked away from the rest of the world because they possess magical abilities.
Last and third play-through as (once again) a female rogue archer, I romanced Merill, despite me having no attraction to women, Merill was by far the sweetest darn thing. She was beyond cute and that was my reason for romancing her.
Favorite romance was Fenris. I appreciated the sulking and witty elf more than I care to explain. (How your Hawke wanted to "fix" Anders? He's not a dripping water faucet...) Just for the sake of the truth: 1. When Anders killed Karl, he and Karl were not together a long time ago, as he said (sadly, if you played with fem!Hawke, you don't heard this, but in this case your Hawke don't know about Karl – stupid thing, I know). 2. HAWKE can flirting with him, he NOT flirting at the moment. 3. Three years passed, when happened the first kiss. But you're right, Anders romance is not easy, especially if you think, that mages don't deserve freedom. Merrill dangerous, because she is a blood mage. Fenris much more problem free. |
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Post by procutemeister on Jan 6, 2017 11:08:46 GMT
I didn't pick out an LI in advance, but I already played Awakening before DA2 and it made me a bit biased towards Anders. Plus, my mage Hawke was pro-mage all the way, and from an RP standpoint she would've gone for him anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2017 21:47:23 GMT
In my first pt I fell... I mean my Hawke fell hard for Fenris fromnthe first moment. I've never romanced anyone else. Then I stumbled over one particular fanfic by damalur about Hawke/Varric and my jaw literally dropped. Ever since I've head canoned my Hawke and Varric together. Happily everafter.
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Post by vertigomez on Jan 10, 2017 3:57:51 GMT
I hopped on TVTropes' character page, took one look at Fenris and said, "This fucker."
The rest is history.
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Post by phoray on Jan 10, 2017 19:54:36 GMT
I hopped on TVTropes' character page, took one look at Fenris and said, "This fucker."The rest is history. LOL That one. That is the one I should fuq.  I didn't fall for Fenris till my second play through. I killed him on accident my first.  |
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I normally do not pick anything in advance, and try not to get spoiled a lot, though I don't agonize over it. I take the characters as they come in while I ma playing, trying them out, and if a romance happens, I see how it goes. I prefer to roll with the punches rather than rig my outcomes.
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Post by vertigomez on Jan 10, 2017 20:40:14 GMT
I hopped on TVTropes' character page, took one look at Fenris and said, "This fucker."The rest is history. LOL That one. That is the one I should fuq. I didn't fall for Fenris till my second play through. I killed him on accident my first. I killed him on my first playthrough, too.  That shit was sad! I was trying to rivalmance him but I hadn't quite gotten the hang of the system so he was still in-between. When we got to the Gallows, I had to light him on fire omfg I'm still traumatized. And then there was a bug or something, because Varric did the epilogue and said, "Blah blah everyone left the Champion's side... well, except for Fenris" BECAUSE HE'S DEAD GODDAMNIT VARRIC I THOUGHT WE WERE COOL. |
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Post by phoray on Jan 11, 2017 15:08:54 GMT
LOL That one. That is the one I should fuq. I didn't fall for Fenris till my second play through. I killed him on accident my first. I killed him on my first playthrough, too. That shit was sad! I was trying to rivalmance him but I hadn't quite gotten the hang of the system so he was still in-between. When we got to the Gallows, I had to light him on fire omfg I'm still traumatized. And then there was a bug or something, because Varric did the epilogue and said, "Blah blah everyone left the Champion's side... well, except for Fenris" BECAUSE HE'S DEAD GODDAMNIT VARRIC I THOUGHT WE WERE COOL. OH MY GOSH, so glad I was in a friendship maxed Anders mance rather than that experience. Although, my version got my heart ripped out too sooo...maybe I would have preferred yours? I dunno. Both of those were bad. DA2 is the best story of characters. Origins had characters that would turn on you too if you were into defiling ashes, but all we got in Inquisiton is people who lie. They never turn on you, for good reasons (like defending the mages) or bad (my BF just showed up, so I'm breaking my promise about not killing you, Warden.) |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2017 21:16:47 GMT
Isabella - FemHawke is my personal favourite
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Post by fylimar on Jan 14, 2017 0:26:25 GMT
I've done the Anders romance mostly and he used to be my favorite. In my newer playthroughs, I did go for Fenris and Isabella to try something else. Fenris was hard at the beginning, because I didn't like him that much, he looked too much like an anime character and I'm not a big fan of animes. But he did grow on me characterwise and in the end, I didn't care how he looked anymore  . Isabella ist just fun and games, much less drama than the guys. BUt I really can't decide, which one I like best, they all have their great moments. Anders has the best line, when trying to comfort Hawke after her mothers death, Fenris is open and straight forward, no lies, no deception and Isabella is funny and dramafree, which is refreshing. I don't care about Merrill and I will never do that romance. For one, she looks like a child, it's creepy and second: I don't like her that much, I don't buy that innocent girl stuff. Oh and don't get me started about Sebastian or his fans will probably kill me - let's just say, I'd rather try my luck with Corypheus |
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Post by Catilina on Jan 14, 2017 0:45:08 GMT
I've done the Anders romance mostly and he used to be my favorite. In my newer playthroughs, I did go for Fenris and Isabella to try something else. Fenris was hard at the beginning, because I didn't like him that much, he looked too much like an anime character and I'm not a big fan of animes. But he did grow on me characterwise and in the end, I didn't care how he looked anymore . Isabella ist just fun and games, much less drama than the guys. BUt I really can't decide, which one I like best, they all have their great moments. Anders has the best line, when trying to comfort Hawke after her mothers death, Fenris is open and straight forward, no lies, no deception and Isabella is funny and dramafree, which is refreshing. I don't care about Merrill and I will never do that romance. For one, she looks like a child, it's creepy and second: I don't like her that much, I don't buy that innocent girl stuff. Oh and don't get me started about Sebastian or his fans will probably kill me - let's just say, I'd rather try my luck with Corypheus Yes, I felt similar. At first sight I don't liked Fenris too much, neither second... but because he was the fewest used character, I started to take him, tried the romance, and this was also fantastic, and Fenris is a good character. So: I now have two favorites. But Merrill is not so bad, true, she is not that naive, innocent girl. (I'm sure that Corypheus would be happy! Perhaps he would able give up his destructive desires!) |
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Post by fylimar on Jan 14, 2017 8:36:48 GMT
I've done the Anders romance mostly and he used to be my favorite. In my newer playthroughs, I did go for Fenris and Isabella to try something else. Fenris was hard at the beginning, because I didn't like him that much, he looked too much like an anime character and I'm not a big fan of animes. But he did grow on me characterwise and in the end, I didn't care how he looked anymore . Isabella ist just fun and games, much less drama than the guys. BUt I really can't decide, which one I like best, they all have their great moments. Anders has the best line, when trying to comfort Hawke after her mothers death, Fenris is open and straight forward, no lies, no deception and Isabella is funny and dramafree, which is refreshing. I don't care about Merrill and I will never do that romance. For one, she looks like a child, it's creepy and second: I don't like her that much, I don't buy that innocent girl stuff. Oh and don't get me started about Sebastian or his fans will probably kill me - let's just say, I'd rather try my luck with Corypheus Yes, I felt similar. At first sight I don't liked Fenris too much, neither second... but because he was the fewest used character, I started to take him, tried the romance, and this was also fantastic, and Fenris is a good character. So: I now have two favorites. But Merrill is not so bad, true, she is not that naive, innocent girl. (I'm sure that Corypheus would be happy! Perhaps he would able give up his destructive desires!) I think, Cory might be a lost cause, but now I want a Hippy inquisitor, who travels through the land preaching 'Make love not war' About Merrill: I just don't like her that much. She has some funny banter and some hilarious scenes, but as a character, she stays bleak to me and I had her in my group for two playthroughs to give her a chance. It's strange, I really love her voice actress Eve Myles, but she often plays characters, I don't like - Gwen in Torchwood is another example. I think, I would get Merrill better, if she would not embrace all things blood magic that willingly. I mean, my Hawkes are worried when they see her use blood magic, since mostly, they already did recruit Fenris by now and heard his story about his sadistic blood magic master, but they accept it, when she use it for her mirror and only her own blood. But I took her once to that quest, where you can destroy those evil tomes from that crazy blood magic chick (Tahrone, I guess) and she dissapproved. I was like 'WTF Merrill, those things contain evil stuff about how to make abominations out of everyone and you are ok with that?'. I think, the writers should have make Merrill a bit more responsible. She was a very bright young thing in DAO and they somehow dumbed her down a lot in DA2 (a bit like movie Gimli in the LotR movies - he was a great character in the books and in the films, he was nothing more than the comic relief). So basically, I don't like, that they changed her character completely. Of course, they did that with Anders too, but he has a very good explanation: two souls in one body can do that to a person |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2017 9:01:20 GMT
Isabella because ... she is Isabella
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2017 21:33:40 GMT
Either Anders or Fenris. Merrill is sweet, but I normally do not like the little sister type for romances. I am slightly more in favor of Fenris atm, because it seems he is going on the rival path for me, and I haven't seen a rival romance yet.
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That shit was sad! I was trying to rivalmance him but I hadn't quite gotten the hang of the system so he was still in-between. When we got to the Gallows, I had to light him on fire omfg I'm still traumatized.
. Isabella ist just fun and games, much less drama than the guys. BUt I really can't decide, which one I like best, they all have their great moments. Anders has the best line, when trying to comfort Hawke after her mothers death, Fenris is open and straight forward, no lies, no deception and Isabella is funny and dramafree, which is refreshing.