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Post by jadedragonmtr on Jul 13, 2017 18:20:06 GMT
I did a quick calculation after 1.09. I have 681 UR cards to unlock. I'm going to buy only premium packs, no arsenal and no reserves. I'll track my progress, but Idk if that data would be useful or not to anyone else.
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Post by JRandall0308 on Jul 13, 2017 18:24:36 GMT
It will be interesting to see the drop rates of Rank 11+ URs when you don't already have everything else in the category (weapons, characters) up to Rank 10. Bioware seems to think this should "rarely" happen but anecdotally it is happening more "commonly". We could use some numbers around this.
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Post by jadedragonmtr on Jul 13, 2017 19:14:23 GMT
It will be interesting to see the drop rates of Rank 11+ URs when you don't already have everything else in the category (weapons, characters) up to Rank 10. Bioware seems to think this should "rarely" happen but anecdotally it is happening more "commonly". We could use some numbers around this. I don't have ANY UR card at X. So I'll keep an eye on this.
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Post by vanelsa on Jul 13, 2017 19:25:00 GMT
It will be interesting to see the drop rates of Rank 11+ URs when you don't already have everything else in the category (weapons, characters) up to Rank 10. Bioware seems to think this should "rarely" happen but anecdotally it is happening more "commonly". We could use some numbers around this. FWIW, I had all UR characters maxed before 1.09. Since then, I've had 16 UR drops in 56 Reserve Packs and the 2 x APEX Elite Packs. 10 UR 11+ Characters and 7 UR Weapons. 4 of the UR weapons were Dhan variants (Concussive III and Siphon I). The Dhan is the only UR weapons I had at Rank X. Reserve Pack drop rate has been 25% (14/56) with 64% Characters and 36% Weapons. This has been roughly in-line with my Reserve pack buying experience to-date.
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Post by gethadept on Jul 13, 2017 19:28:51 GMT
I`ve been opeining expert pack only since patch 1.09(except first saved one million). My last half million got me three URs so I don`t feel bad with it.
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Post by rtrnofdmax on Jul 13, 2017 19:30:41 GMT
It will be interesting to see the drop rates of Rank 11+ URs when you don't already have everything else in the category (weapons, characters) up to Rank 10. Bioware seems to think this should "rarely" happen but anecdotally it is happening more "commonly". We could use some numbers around this. Should be roughly equivalent to the drop rate of Rare characters in the context of just those drops, no? For example: I have received 18 X+ Gold Character cards and 4 for the Batarian. Don't know if it matters but all my Rare characters are between 12-14.
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Post by JRandall0308 on Jul 13, 2017 19:33:36 GMT
Unless Bioware reveals the actual math we don't know what matters, which is why we have to reverse-engineer it ourselves.
For Science! and OCD of course.
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Post by lennybusker on Jul 13, 2017 20:16:18 GMT
I'm not bothering any more.
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Post by crashsuit on Jul 16, 2017 21:24:15 GMT
Not sure if anyone's interested in studying lesser packs, but I recorded myself purchasing Basic and Advanced packs to max the new commons and uncommons, and also to see how often doubles and/or upgraded card drops happen. I started with a max 1.08 manifest, then bought Basic packs to max commons, then bought Advanced packs to max uncommons. Unfortunately I goofed up on recording the Basic packs so I missed getting the majority of those on video. I opened a few dozen extra Basic packs to get more info recorded on upgraded rarity drop rates. After a little bit I stopped flipping over the cards most of the time, it's just too much work, but the rarities are still visible. If anyone wants, feel free to parse out the videos to get upgraded card drop rates for the cheap packs and see whether there's a pity timer for that kind of thing. Still to do and record: open 13000 Jumbo packs to see what happens when gels/ops/thermals/cobras reach 65535 each. My personal theory is that packs will start dropping 5 boosters every time, but who knows. Basic packs: Advanced packs:
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Post by jadedragonmtr on Jul 16, 2017 22:48:48 GMT
A quick update on the last 15 premium packs I bought: 3 UR cards, all weapons.
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Post by JRandall0308 on Jul 17, 2017 13:53:46 GMT
Thanks crashsuit. I don't know when I will have time to go through this, but I appreciate the raw data.
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Post by crashsuit on Jul 18, 2017 21:13:24 GMT
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Post by jadedragonmtr on Jul 18, 2017 21:14:35 GMT
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Post by gethadept on Jul 18, 2017 21:14:58 GMT
lol So it didn`t stop at 65535
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Post by lennybusker on Jul 18, 2017 21:18:31 GMT
welp, crashsuit, next milestone is 2,147,483,647
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Post by crashsuit on Jul 18, 2017 21:19:54 GMT
welp, crashsuit , next milestone is 2,147,483,647
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Post by JRandall0308 on Jul 19, 2017 18:22:56 GMT
Uncommon drop rate in Basic packs appears to be around 12% (me) to 14% (crashsuit). N = 199 packs, 26 Uncommons.
I already maxed my Commons (Characters ranks XI-XX) but because I like you guys I will buy another 100 Basic packs to get some more data.
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Post by crashsuit on Jul 20, 2017 20:23:26 GMT
Are we tracking Apex packs at all? Out of the five(?) available so far through the store and mission rewards, I've opened three and have two more unopened in my rewards. The ones I've opened each had a single UR and I think one rare. No photo evidence though, sorry.
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Post by JRandall0308 on Jul 20, 2017 22:04:50 GMT
I guess? Kinda pointless without screenshots like that lucky bastard on reddit who got 4! URs in his Apex Elite Pack.
The problem is going to be that only the people with 2+ URs are going to post their screenshots so we will get an inflated sense of how often that happens. And we'd need hundreds of packs to get a sense for true drop rates, which I don't see ever happening.
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Post by rtrnofdmax on Jul 21, 2017 21:37:27 GMT
Can someone remind me what happens on Reserve packs when you have all of your Rare characters? I seem to remember people getting boosters instead of Rare weapons. Is that still the case?
If it is, then Reserve packs would have to treat Rare Characters and Rare Weapons as two separate pools, granting Rare boosters since there aren't any more cards available in the Rare Characters list.
I ask because I'm down to 19 more Rare Character cards and I would like to start getting some more Rare Weapons while having a better chance of getting UR characters from the Reserve packs.
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Post by crashsuit on Jul 25, 2017 7:09:58 GMT
1000 Premium packs, 258 URs, 25.8% UR drop rate. Very tired/drunk and going to bed now but will upload videos tomorrow and link in thread. Also in another couple days or so will post stats for another 1000 or so Premium packs, either until credits run out or manifest is maxed, whichever happens first. In total should provide a significant enough of a sample to establish a very accurate UR drop rate for Premium packs.
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Post by crashsuit on Jul 25, 2017 7:15:45 GMT
Can someone remind me what happens on Reserve packs when you have all of your Rare characters? I seem to remember people getting boosters instead of Rare weapons. Is that still the case? If it is, then Reserve packs would have to treat Rare Characters and Rare Weapons as two separate pools, granting Rare boosters since there aren't any more cards available in the Rare Characters list. I ask because I'm down to 19 more Rare Character cards and I would like to start getting some more Rare Weapons while having a better chance of getting UR characters from the Reserve packs. BW said they fixed that, I saw it on reddit a couple weeks back, if you want I could take an hour or two tracking the post down but according to BW it's supposed to be fixed. Not sure if it's actually tested to be fixed but at least BW claims it's fixed. Just FYI Premium packs, while not specifically weighted towards guns or kits like Reserves or Arsenals, will tend to follow the general rarity drop pattern of being weighted towards kits, then guns, then mods. Probably not as heavily weighted towards kits as Reserves but still more likely to drop kits than guns. Source: Maxed all UR kits at level XX after 450 Premium packs while still having over 1000 packs to go to max guns, will post video proof in drop rate test thread over the next few days.
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Post by rtrnofdmax on Jul 25, 2017 14:05:15 GMT
crashsuitI shoulda followed up. I have been getting rare weapons consistently from my reserve packs now.
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Post by jadedragonmtr on Jul 25, 2017 14:20:22 GMT
Source: Maxed all UR kits at level XX after 450 Premium packs while still having over 1000 packs to go to max guns, will post video proof in drop rate test thread over the next few days. Does it have to do with the fact that there's a lot more weapon cards than kit cards? I've been getting only weapon cards in the last 50 premium packs and my highest UR kit is at level VII and lowest is at III.
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Post by crashsuit on Jul 25, 2017 14:42:49 GMT
Source: Maxed all UR kits at level XX after 450 Premium packs while still having over 1000 packs to go to max guns, will post video proof in drop rate test thread over the next few days. Does it have to do with the fact that there's a lot more weapon cards than kit cards? I've been getting only weapon cards in the last 50 premium packs and my highest UR kit is at level VII and lowest is at III. Since game release, my drops of all rarities have been weighted for kits vs guns, and for guns vs mods.
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