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Post by unclemonster on Jun 15, 2017 18:31:17 GMT
Dev (Bastiaan) confirmed a separate pity counter for each Premium Pack including Premium, Reserve, and Arsenal
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Post by JRandall0308 on Jun 15, 2017 21:50:41 GMT
Dev (Bastiaan) confirmed a separate pity counter for each Premium Pack including Premium, Reserve, and Arsenal This being the case I don't think we need to kill ourselves trying to disprove what he said. Although they have been wrong about their own game mechanics before, so maybe we should. Heh.
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Post by lennybusker on Jun 15, 2017 22:07:14 GMT
I'm not really worried about that since we already basically confirmed it ourselves. I think at this point open whatever you want to open, just track. It would be nice if we could zero in on the actual rates for characters and weapons across packs. Right now I'm showing ~60/40 for characters from Reserves.
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Post by rtrnofdmax on Jun 16, 2017 19:53:06 GMT
I got two consecutive URs in Reserve packs last night. Clearly, they have increased the drop rate to 100% since yesterday.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2017 20:19:53 GMT
I'm not really worried about that since we already basically confirmed it ourselves. I think at this point open whatever you want to open, just track. It would be nice if we could zero in on the actual rates for characters and weapons across packs. Right now I'm showing ~60/40 for characters from Reserves. Hmmm... if each pack has its own pity timer, then you may be spreading things out a bit by opening different types of packs. For example: Say I opened 4 each Premium, Arsenal, Reserve packs and don't hit any URs. Had I instead bought 12 of a single type, I would definitely have hit its pity timer. In the long run, it might not make much difference, but I've been confining my purchases to Premium Packs thus far.
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Post by lennybusker on Jun 16, 2017 21:51:50 GMT
I'm not really worried about that since we already basically confirmed it ourselves. I think at this point open whatever you want to open, just track. It would be nice if we could zero in on the actual rates for characters and weapons across packs. Right now I'm showing ~60/40 for characters from Reserves. Hmmm... if each pack has its own pity timer, then you may be spreading things out a bit by opening different types of packs. For example: Say I opened 4 each Premium, Arsenal, Reserve packs and don't hit any URs. Had I instead bought 12 of a single type, I would definitely have hit its pity timer. In the long run, it might not make much difference, but I've been confining my purchases to Premium Packs thus far. Yeah absolutely. I have stuck on Reserves since I switched to them. And I switched to them right after getting a UR from a Premium. I would suggest waiting until you get a UR from whatever series of packs you're opening to switch to a different type.
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Post by dyesevn on Jun 16, 2017 22:48:13 GMT
So it's beat to save up at least 1 million points before bu ying any premiums or reserves in order to get the pity timer? Buying them as soon as you earn 100k points then playing another game resets the pity timer?
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Post by lennybusker on Jun 16, 2017 23:26:41 GMT
So it's beat to save up at least 1 million points before bu ying any premiums or reserves in order to get the pity timer? Buying them as soon as you earn 100k points then playing another game resets the pity timer? No, it's not reset by playing more matches or quitting the game or days going by. It's only reset by patches.
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Post by dyesevn on Jun 17, 2017 1:41:34 GMT
So it's beat to save up at least 1 million points before bu ying any premiums or reserves in order to get the pity timer? Buying them as soon as you earn 100k points then playing another game resets the pity timer? No, it's not reset by playing more matches or quitting the game or days going by. It's only reset by patches. Oh ok. Thanks for the clarification!
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Post by Kazu on Jun 17, 2017 5:39:51 GMT
Can we please encourage everybody to use a common/standardized (is that even a word?) data format instead of just posting something?
Just grab a copy from lenny's spreadsheet and change your name I suppose.
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Post by Kazu on Jun 20, 2017 21:20:14 GMT
Opened more packs today. Data will be updated as I write this. Video availble again if there should be any demand.
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Post by lennybusker on Jun 22, 2017 6:47:54 GMT
Don't know if this was in dispute at all, probably not since they straight up said this for the three different UR packs and we can extrapolate from that, but Super Deluxe packs do not share the timer with UR boxes. They might be a separate timer (who wants to save up all 20 to find out?) but they definitely will not count towards an existing 10-streak.
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Post by rlro on Jun 22, 2017 12:41:01 GMT
Does anyone made an analysis with the gathered numbers in order to draw some (preliminary) conclusions regarding the UR drop rate of the different packs?
I'm still having more luck on premiums than reserves, but my sample data is not large enough to deduce anything.
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Post by Kazu on Jun 22, 2017 20:51:55 GMT
Don't know if this was in dispute at all, probably not since they straight up said this for the three different UR packs and we can extrapolate from that, but Super Deluxe packs do not share the timer with UR boxes. They might be a separate timer (who wants to save up all 20 to find out?) but they definitely will not count towards an existing 10-streak. Can I return the ones i already used and then open 20 in a row of those?
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Post by JRandall0308 on Jun 28, 2017 14:40:19 GMT
40 Reserves, 10 URs (8 Characters, 2 Weapons)
I hit the pity timer once but I was too unmotivated to test anything interesting around it. Sorry.
I *finally* unlocked the Angara Avenger in my 36th pack. That means I have all URs unlocked now. Woot!
I have plans to do all my data entry and to consolidate everyone's data into a master book, but I'm working on a bunch of other stuff so it may be a while.
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Post by unclemonster on Jun 28, 2017 15:18:10 GMT
40 Reserves, 10 URs (8 Characters, 2 Weapons) I hit the pity timer once but I was too unmotivated to test anything interesting around it. Sorry. I *finally* unlocked the Angara Avenger in my 36th pack. That means I have all URs unlocked now. Woot! I have plans to do all my data entry and to consolidate everyone's data into a master book, but I'm working on a bunch of other stuff so it may be a while. Damn, finally! Avenger is my go to if playing with questionable PUGs. She will be my early Platinum kit as well. Very good strong character.
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Post by Kazu on Jul 6, 2017 10:07:33 GMT
We gonna make a new one for 1.09?
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Post by JRandall0308 on Jul 6, 2017 10:56:19 GMT
I don't think we need a new THREAD but obviously keep track of the date you bought stuff so we know which patch it was under.
If someone could sit on a 9-long dry spell and buy the 10th after 1.09 that would be interesting.
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Post by Kazu on Jul 6, 2017 11:08:00 GMT
That could work too. Then I have to ask, how copy/transfer formatting and such on google docs pretty please?
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Post by lennybusker on Jul 6, 2017 12:21:37 GMT
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Post by JRandall0308 on Jul 6, 2017 12:27:35 GMT
Can I take this opportunity to implore everyone to change to (IMO) a better format that has separate columns for "# UR Characters" and "# UR Weapons" per row? Yes, you have to enter data in two cells instead of one, but it's much cleaner to see a bunch of 0s and 1s (and the occasional 2) rather than "C", "C / W", "W / W", etc. Also it is MUCH easier to write formulas based off numbers than off the letters (and slash symbol!) that must be parsed. Like this: Player | Pack Type | # UR Characters | # UR Weapons | LennyBusker | PREMIUM | 0 | 0 | LennyBusker | PREMIUM | 0 | 0 | LennyBusker | PREMIUM | 0 | 0 | LennyBusker | PREMIUM | 0 | 0 | LennyBusker | PREMIUM | 0 | 0 | LennyBusker | PREMIUM | 0 | 0 | LennyBusker | PREMIUM | 0 | 0 | LennyBusker | PREMIUM | 0 | 0 | LennyBusker | PREMIUM | 2 | 0 | LennyBusker | PREMIUM | 0 | 0 | LennyBusker | PREMIUM | 0 | 0 | LennyBusker | PREMIUM | 0 | 0 | LennyBusker | PREMIUM | 0 | 0 | LennyBusker | PREMIUM | 0 | 0 | LennyBusker | PREMIUM | 0 | 0 | LennyBusker | PREMIUM | 0 | 0 | LennyBusker | PREMIUM | 1 | 0 | LennyBusker | PREMIUM | 0 | 0 | LennyBusker | PREMIUM | 1 | 1 |
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZkVZOuel5oqJACfc3nPm5mYZhRWdqVScxDb76Xt-1Yg/edit?usp=sharing
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Post by Kazu on Jul 6, 2017 12:42:42 GMT
Had to copy the whole sheet, else all the formulas stopped working or wheren't added for some reason.
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Post by gnperdue on Jul 6, 2017 12:44:11 GMT
I started tracking my pack data and keeping it on GitHub. You can find it here: github.com/gnperdue/RandomData/tree/master/MEA/1.08CSV format, header is: "Date,Pack,AP/Creds,Notes,Uncommon,Rare Mod,Rare Weap.,Rare Char.,UR Weap.,UR Char.,UR Booster,Ultra Rares"
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Post by rtrnofdmax on Jul 13, 2017 18:12:20 GMT
We still doing this? I have added a 1.09 tab to my spreadsheet.
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Post by JRandall0308 on Jul 13, 2017 18:18:36 GMT
Sure, why not?
I have re-maxed my Commons and will start in on Uncommons tonight I hope. Just been lazy about transcribing my data.
(BTW... we are now in the same state that DAI was in from the start... where opening packs is so time consuming that my choice is often either to play the game or to open packs... typically I choose playing the game.)
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