Mass Effect SP DLC (timing and speculation) thread

Both ME2 and ME3 had DLCs before those. ME2 had Kasumi, among other small ones and ME3 had the Extended Cut. And that's ignoring day 1 DLC.

All that said, it's indeed too soon to know if MEA will have a sp DLC or not. I was confident it would, now I'm not so sure. I'd say it's 50-50. But if there is one, it will almost certainly be the only one.

I only included DLCs that were major story expansions.

Kasumi was basically a loyalty mission that probably should have been in the main game, same with Zaeed. Same goes for the From Ashes ME3 dlc which was basically cut material from the base game.

But yeah, I see your point.

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Well the kasumi dlc is not very long to make its much less ambitious than a jaws of hakon dlc, and MEA is probably going to have a dlc after 5 months because they had to put extra ressources for patch on animation. So even if it does not come in 5 months I would not say there is no possibility to see one.

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Kasumi's mission is quite well built. Certainly not as much as Overlord and especially LotSB but it's a great mission nonetheless, with some memorable moments, new enemy tatics and a cool boss fight. Not to mention the quite parts like the party and the interior of the vault and it gives you a new squadmate for the entire game. It's probably better than Arrival for example.

It's true it was long planned and probably some of it was already done before ME2 was release, but that reason is exactly what gives some hope that we will see a MEA DLC: it was already planned and part of it was already done.

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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jun 11, 2017 15:09:28 GMT

How long after release are the DLCs typically announced?

yeah exactly and I think that's the big questoin given they've not announced anything but they aer still patching the game which in a sense I think gives people hope that something could be on the way. It's just a difficult thing to read right now. Hopefully something still will happen though. I would imagine though that if we are going to get anything DLC related they'll hopefully announce it within the next month or so.

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Jun 11, 2017 15:06:10 GMT SofNascimento said:

It's true it was long planned and probably some of it was already done before ME2 was release, but that reason is exactly what gives some hope that we will see a MEA DLC: it was already planned and part of it was already done.

That's my guess for the heavily hinted at Quarian one also. You don't do that if there isn't something already in the pipeline. So my guess is, this will be published. I'm sceptical about there being any additional SP DLCs.

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Post by alanc9 on Jun 11, 2017 15:20:17 GMT

Both ME2 and ME3 had DLCs before those. ME2 had Kasumi, among other small ones and ME3 had the Extended Cut. And that's ignoring day 1 DLC.

All that said, it's indeed too soon to know if MEA will have a sp DLC or not. I was confident it would, now I'm not so sure. I'd say it's 50-50. But if there is one, it will almost certainly be the only one.

I'm not sure the EC is all that relevant as a data point.

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Post by malgus on Jun 11, 2017 15:21:42 GMT

Both ME2 and ME3 had DLCs before those. ME2 had Kasumi, among other small ones and ME3 had the Extended Cut. And that's ignoring day 1 DLC.

All that said, it's indeed too soon to know if MEA will have a sp DLC or not. I was confident it would, now I'm not so sure. I'd say it's 50-50. But if there is one, it will almost certainly be the only one.

I'm not sure the EC is all that relevant as a data point.

Yep it was an emergency to please the anger about the ending, not a proper playable sp dlc.

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Post by SofNascimento on Jun 11, 2017 15:22:01 GMT

Both ME2 and ME3 had DLCs before those. ME2 had Kasumi, among other small ones and ME3 had the Extended Cut. And that's ignoring day 1 DLC.

All that said, it's indeed too soon to know if MEA will have a sp DLC or not. I was confident it would, now I'm not so sure. I'd say it's 50-50. But if there is one, it will almost certainly be the only one.

I'm not sure the EC is all that relevant as a data point.

I think it might be not because of the DLC itself, but because it pushed Levithan to a latter date. It's possible that if there was no EC (and no ending controversy) Leviathan would have come out sooner. Just a guess of course.

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Jun 11, 2017 15:21:42 GMT malgus said:

I'm not sure the EC is all that relevant as a data point.

Yep it was an emergency to please the anger about the ending, not a proper playable sp dlc.

Like this recent patch imo.

Not to mention this recent patch had editors, writers, animators and voice actors come in to make it, so a DLC is very likely.

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Jun 11, 2017 15:22:33 GMT @mlady said:

Jun 11, 2017 15:21:42 GMT malgus said:

Yep it was an emergency to please the anger about the ending, not a proper playable sp dlc.

Like this recent patch imo.

Not to mention this recent patch had editors, writers, animators and voice actors come in to make it, so a DLC is very likely.

I am just not buying this thin hope that because there are patches then there must be a story DLC coming.

Rockstar Games continued to patch the SP aspects of GTA5 and yet as of today not one SP DLC has been released. Like I said though, 5 months after launcg seems to be the sweet spot. If July passes and no DLC is announced, it may be clear that MEA is dead.

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Jun 11, 2017 15:44:17 GMT majesticjazz said:

Jun 11, 2017 15:22:33 GMT @mlady said:

Like this recent patch imo.

Not to mention this recent patch had editors, writers, animators and voice actors come in to make it, so a DLC is very likely.

I am just not buying this thin hope that because there are patches then there must be a story DLC coming.

Rockstar Games continued to patch the SP aspects of GTA5 and yet as of today not one SP DLC has been released. Like I said though, 5 months after launcg seems to be the sweet spot. If July passes and no DLC is announced, it may be clear that MEA is dead.

This recent patch had new scenes and everything, meaning they can still afford to do that. Jaal/Scott is a whole new romance. They had to bring the actors back in, animate new scenes and write a new love story for them. All in 2 months, and then Cora's VA says in May she's in the studio as Cora again. I have no doubt about a DLC being made, but this patch likely delayed things since it took more time and resources to be made.

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Jun 11, 2017 15:44:17 GMT majesticjazz said:

Jun 11, 2017 15:22:33 GMT @mlady said:

Like this recent patch imo.

Not to mention this recent patch had editors, writers, animators and voice actors come in to make it, so a DLC is very likely.

I am just not buying this thin hope that because there are patches then there must be a story DLC coming.

Rockstar Games continued to patch the SP aspects of GTA5 and yet as of today not one SP DLC has been released. Like I said though, 5 months after launcg seems to be the sweet spot. If July passes and no DLC is announced, it may be clear that MEA is dead.

Yeah I agree that if they don't announce anything within the next couple of months there likely won't be any so we'll justhave to keep an ear to the grouind and listen out for anything in the meantime as it's all we can do.

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Jun 11, 2017 15:22:01 GMT SofNascimento said:

I'm not sure the EC is all that relevant as a data point.

I think it might be not because of the DLC itself, but because it pushed Levithan to a latter date. It's possible that if there was no EC (and no ending controversy) Leviathan would have come out sooner. Just a guess of course.

Good point. If we're trying to come up with an average we should fudge the Leviathan ship date

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Post by Andrew Waples on Jun 11, 2017 15:53:02 GMT

How long after release are the DLCs typically announced?

I'm assuming it varies. As an example, Hakkon was announced and released that same day (a month later on ps4, but still accurate). I believe Decent and Trespasser as well, although Trespasser had a couple day window between announcement and release. With YouTube and all that, you don't need a con or a presser anymore for dlc announcements. Meaning it's feasible to announce and release that same day.

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Post by Sanunes on Jun 11, 2017 16:43:57 GMT

How long after release are the DLCs typically announced?

I did a search for the release date of Mass Effect 3: Citadel. They announced it on February 21st and released it on March 5th. I also searched for Trespasser for Dragon Age: Inquisition and it was announced on August 29th and was released on September 8th. So it is only a couple of weeks for official announcements prior to launch.

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Jun 11, 2017 15:47:04 GMT @mlady said:

This recent patch had new scenes and everything, meaning they can still afford to do that. Jaal/Scott is a whole new romance. They had to bring the actors back in, animate new scenes and write a new love story for them. All in 2 months, and then Cora's VA says in May she's in the studio as Cora again. I have no doubt about a DLC being made, but this patch likely delayed things since it took more time and resources to be made.

On what do you base your assumption that all of this has been newly developed and not just implemented? Within four to five weeks? Writing, developing, voicing?

Well, OK, if people want to believe, they believe anything.

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Jun 11, 2017 16:51:03 GMT abaris said:

Jun 11, 2017 15:47:04 GMT @mlady said:

This recent patch had new scenes and everything, meaning they can still afford to do that. Jaal/Scott is a whole new romance. They had to bring the actors back in, animate new scenes and write a new love story for them. All in 2 months, and then Cora's VA says in May she's in the studio as Cora again. I have no doubt about a DLC being made, but this patch likely delayed things since it took more time and resources to be made.

On what do you base your assumption that all of this has been newly developed and not just implemented? Within four to five weeks? Writing, developing, voicing?

Well, OK, if people want to believe, they believe anything.

Since Mac said in March they were looking into it, then in April they had already started on it? Also they said in the patch notes they had to create new stuff since Scott/Jaal was not cut content (minus a few lines) but new, and they had to figure out how to make it work.

I believe facts not stupid, biased thinking like that article has created.

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Jun 11, 2017 16:55:16 GMT @mlady said:

I believe facts not stupidity.

Of course, developer, company and staff statements are always facts.

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Jun 11, 2017 16:56:48 GMT abaris said:

Jun 11, 2017 16:55:16 GMT @mlady said:

I believe facts not stupidity.

Of course, developer, company and staff statements are always facts.

Better than article with a bad rep.

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