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Post by ioannisdenton on Jun 20, 2017 17:35:15 GMT
Keep your head in the sand. For all the 0's there's just as many 10's followed by "I'm just giving this a ten because it's not a zero!" It works both ways, and after 3k reviews it averages out. Prove that. The thing is no one knows the ratio of 0s to 10s. No one knows the ratio of people who legitimately are of the view the game is worth a 9 to the ratio of people who thought the game was really worth a 7 but gave it a 9 to drum up the score... and vice verse.... we'll never know how many people really thought the game was so bad it deserved a 1 as opposed to those who really thought it was a 4 but gave it a one just to lower the score. You're just assuming it all offsets but there is no way you can prove that it does. When the data are tainted, they are tainted... and Metacritic data for this game is certainly tainted because what is provable is that the game was metabombed with 0s minutes after the site opened. Metacritic should be banned anyway. The user base is too immature anyway for scoring and evaluating anything.
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Post by abaris on Jun 20, 2017 17:39:20 GMT
Metacritic should be banned anyway. The user base is too immature anyway for scoring and evaluating anything. Ah, opinions should be banned because they don't corelate with yours. Interesting. Apart from the professional side of metacritic which is only a collection of international game magazine critics.
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Post by SofaJockey on Jun 20, 2017 17:44:37 GMT
Please don't quote the metacritic user scores as some high-water mark of integrity People bombed the site with scores of '0' within minutes of the site opening its scoring and well before any rational person could have made a judgment. Either way, I think MEA's reputation will resurrect in time, much as Dragon Age 2 has. And people dont bomb scores of 10 on metacritic either? I goes both ways. Of course they do, but assuming MEA deserved (on average) 7/10 at launch, a 10-bomb has considerably less impact than a 0-bomb on an overall score.
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Post by abaris on Jun 20, 2017 18:01:07 GMT
Of course they do, but assuming MEA deserved (on average) 7/10 at launch, a 10-bomb has considerably less impact than a 0-bomb on an overall score. The fact of the matter is that if you read something like SJW in the first paragraph, you can safely discard that opinion. If you see a 0 or 1 as a rating, you can safely discard these reviews also. This would imply a total trainwreck, which hardly any game is at release. Apart from that there's the professional side of metacritic. The one simply collecting international critiques and handing out an average rating based on that. The 72 comes from professional reviewers, not the users, not the trolls. They rate it at 4,9. You might also want to compare it to ME2 where the critics rated it 94, the users at 88. Or Origins, where professionals came up with 91 and users with 87. Absence of trolls or just that these games found their audience more perfectly than the laters ones. Sure, there are trolls on metacritic, but usually the userbase takes care of them, if they feel their trolling efforts are misplaced. The divide started to happen with DAII and continued until now. But if I am to take another game by a different developer, which I happened to play, this has nothing to do with a new influx of trolls. Pillars of Enternity by Obsidian got 89 by professionals and 83 by users. That game is just two years old.
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Jun 20, 2017 18:05:48 GMT
You can't be serious. Metacritic user scores consist of retards that most likely never played the game and their "reviews" are agenda filled rants that having nothing to do with the actual game. Keep your head in the sand. For all the 0's there's just as many 10's followed by "I'm just giving this a ten because it's not a zero!" It works both ways, and after 3k reviews it averages out. Keep telling yourself that so it fits your agenda derpy.
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Post by ioannisdenton on Jun 20, 2017 18:09:21 GMT
Metacritic should be banned anyway. The user base is too immature anyway for scoring and evaluating anything. Ah, opinions should be banned because they don't corelate with yours. Interesting. Apart from the professional side of metacritic which is only a collection of international game magazine critics. Whoever rates andromeda with a zero is an asshole/wanker. I firmly believe this.
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Post by abaris on Jun 20, 2017 18:12:12 GMT
Whoever rates andromeda with a zero is an asshole/wanker. I firmly believe this. That's called trolling. But it got nothing to do with you demanding the ban of a whole site.
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Post by dillk on Jun 20, 2017 18:15:18 GMT
You are the sheep here do you realize it? Bshep is the revolutionary with courage to affirm something many people don't agree. For me it's pretty simple, it does everything better than ME2, combats, party building, weapons, equipments, levels, story and writing, exploration, ME2 only has more companions but not much developed. ME3 benefits of exploiting the whole trilogy but that's the point, and it's not the ending that can change all of that, anyway there's now the new extended ending. For ME1 it's just more ambitious plan alas badly executed, even companions aren't that good, exploring planets is just mini games, areas bigger are fulled of repetitive fillers, combats are quite less good, many more.
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Post by ioannisdenton on Jun 20, 2017 18:15:29 GMT
Whoever rates andromeda with a zero is an asshole/wanker. I firmly believe this. That's called trolling. But it got nothing to do with you demanding the ban of a whole site. truth is Trolls bother rate with a zero more than DECENT human beings/gamers. in what planet (pun intended) me3 and inquisition deserve less than 5?
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Post by suikoden on Jun 20, 2017 18:16:04 GMT
And people dont bomb scores of 10 on metacritic either? I goes both ways. Of course they do, but assuming MEA deserved (on average) 7/10 at launch, a 10-bomb has considerably less impact than a 0-bomb on an overall score. Also subjective - to me it was a 4/10 - so a ten inflates its score more than a zero detracts.
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Post by suikoden on Jun 20, 2017 18:18:22 GMT
Keep your head in the sand. For all the 0's there's just as many 10's followed by "I'm just giving this a ten because it's not a zero!" It works both ways, and after 3k reviews it averages out. Keep telling yourself that so it fits your agenda derpy. I wouldn't be surprised if you're one of the "10s" on metacritic.
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Post by abaris on Jun 20, 2017 18:20:18 GMT
truth is Trolls bother rate with a zero more than DECENT human beings/gamers. in what planet (pun intended) me3 and inquisition deserve less than 5? They don't. The same way as Andromeda isn't deserving of 4,9. But as I explained above, they were losing their core audience with DAII, which isn't deserving of it's rating either, by the way. I also explained that other companies still manage to avoid that divide. Obsidian and Bethesda, up till FO4. Skyrim still got 94 by professionals and 82 by users. FO4 fairs worse. They also rolled back on what their fans expected. That, justified or not, is more of a reason for the lower user ratings than simple trolling.
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Jun 20, 2017 18:24:13 GMT
Keep your head in the sand. For all the 0's there's just as many 10's followed by "I'm just giving this a ten because it's not a zero!" It works both ways, and after 3k reviews it averages out. Prove that. The thing is no one knows the ratio of 0s to 10s. No one knows the ratio of people who legitimately are of the view the game is worth a 9 to the ratio of people who thought the game was really worth a 7 but gave it a 9 to drum up the score... and vice verse.... we'll never know how many people really thought the game was so bad it deserved a 1 as opposed to those who really thought it was a 4 but gave it a one just to lower the score. You're just assuming it all offsets but there is no way you can prove that it does. When the data are tainted, they are tainted... and Metacritic data for this game is certainly tainted because what is provable is that the game was metabombed with 0s minutes after the site opened. The only way I would ever take metacritic seriously is if metacritic some how implimented a screening system that proves the user put in an adequate amount of time into a game to prove they are at least familiar enough with the game to actually review it. In the case of MEA they would have to get all the planets 100 percent viable (which is actually very easy),complete squad loyalty quests, complete the main quest, and played at least ten hours of the multiplayer. By these standards even I would not qualify to review the game since I have only dabbled in multiplayer and am in no way qualified to review the mp aspect of the game. Overall having these standards set as a minimum would eliminate probably 90 percent of the troll reviews as the people qualified to review the game would put an honest effort into their review. It would not eliminate all the troll reviews but the overall user reviews collectively would actually have a degree of validity. Of course I doubt they could actually impliment that kind of screening process but it would be ideal.
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Post by dillk on Jun 20, 2017 18:25:25 GMT
You can't be serious. Metacritic user scores consist of retards that most likely never played the game and their "reviews" are agenda filled rants that having nothing to do with the actual game. Keep your head in the sand. For all the 0's there's just as many 10's followed by "I'm just giving this a ten because it's not a zero!" It works both ways, and after 3k reviews it averages out. Lol justify a non sense behavior by another, that's not how it works, 0 and 1 are stupid no arguing no justification, 10 depend. When groups of haters just acting blindly become too important, a few hundred is enough, it broke all the system. Now nothing will change it, more or more people like swim into blinded hate and negativity, that's the evolution, I don't see it decrease.
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Post by malgus on Jun 20, 2017 18:28:12 GMT
For me, the metacritic user score never meant something, like NEVER I would give the game Dying light a 4 or 5 out of 10, yeah 50% at best considering I had to force myself for finishing it because techland made so many changes like the skill threee that I hated and the "no fast travel" rules which was already bad in the vanilla game, but became even worse in the dlc the following. Even if dead island was not my favorite game, it still had enjoyable moments but they were nowhere to be seen in dying light, at least for me. Well on metacritic it has a score of an 8 out of 10 (well 7.8 and 7.9 but still) : www.metacritic.com/game/pc/dying-lightSaying that I disagree with that score is an understatement because its one of the rare game that I really got bored with it and would have probably not finished, if it was not for the fact that I just paid 30 canadian dollar for the complete edition and pretty much wanted the game to finish as soon as possible. While for mass effect andromeda, A game that I enjoyed, I did not wanted it to finish and I wanted more, it has the low score on metacritic. Especially by these kind of guys who only puts 0 and 10 in their reviews : www.metacritic.com/user/kotaryuwww.metacritic.com/user/NarekeFor them a game is either perfect or absolute shit,. Oh and of course they reviewed more than one version the same day the MEA was released, so if their rating is true, they bought TWO and even THREE version of the game and had the time to review all of them and puts 0 to all of them, less than 24 hours after the release which is of course totally enough to review a game and the multiple versions of it... I would love if people realize that the metacritic user score is no better than any other sites who has user score, just like for the movie bloodrayne made by UWE BOLL who has right now a metacritic user score of 7.7 out of 10 : www.metacritic.com/movie/bloodrayneYes a movie made by UWE BOLL (by the way calling him the next ed wood is an insult to ed wood, at least that guy made me laugh) is good according to the metacritic users... Metacritic only have a summary for the "professional review score" the user score is just like any other sites, anyone can create an account or even multiple ones in that regards. Its like that propagandist movie god's not dead, who as of now has a 76% rating on rotten tomatoes, even if it's problems are not only that it is propaganda. www.rottentomatoes.com/m/gods_not_dead/I don't see why people seems to think that the user score proves anything, it does not. If I think a game is good I am not going to rework my brain if the majority says they think the products is bad. And that also works in reverse, People may tell me again and again that dying light is good, I am not going to change my thoughts on it, I think its bad. Everyone can think otherwise but the metacritic userscore is not an undeniable truth and nobody has to think like the majority or a review score. The same way jim sterling putted reviews that many times were completely different than the opinion of some user score :
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Jun 20, 2017 18:28:27 GMT
Keep telling yourself that so it fits your agenda derpy. I wouldn't be surprised if you're one of the "10s" on metacritic. What evidence do you have to lead to such an informed and not ignorant conclusion?
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Post by dreman999 on Jun 20, 2017 18:29:31 GMT
These patched don't really fix what's wrong with the game .It.just makes it more polished. I grade it an 8 before.and it stays an 8.
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Post by Dr. Vanity on Jun 20, 2017 18:31:15 GMT
Usually, i'm not a fan of the X out of 10 metric since the vast majority of games are clumped in the 8-10 range while anything with a 7 or 6 is regarded as a bad game. I prefer X out of 5 rankings, I feel those are more accurate, and going off of that type of ranking system, i'd place ME:A with all its patches at a 4/5. Still has issues relating to story and animations but I clocked in 70+ hours of gameplay over a long period of time in one character. Add in the fact the gameplay, the combat, the nomad driving and the profiles (love those as an option) are all very smooth and that brings the ranking up a 4/5 in my book.
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Post by suikoden on Jun 20, 2017 18:37:02 GMT
I wouldn't be surprised if you're one of the "10s" on metacritic. What evidence do you have to lead to such an informed and not ignorant conclusion? Your posting history.
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Jun 20, 2017 18:45:08 GMT
What evidence do you have to lead to such an informed and not ignorant conclusion? Your posting history. Ok derpy I will bite. What about my posting history makes you think I would even bother posting a metacritic review on MEA?
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Post by colfoley on Jun 20, 2017 18:52:15 GMT
Kotoreffect is not one of the tens...anywhere.
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Post by Andrew Lucas on Jun 20, 2017 18:55:13 GMT
And people dont bomb scores of 10 on metacritic either? I goes both ways. That doesn't really strengthen your argument. It does. User scores is only useful if your own personal bias chooses it to be, but it's not like that.
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on Jun 20, 2017 18:58:09 GMT
That doesn't really strengthen your argument. It does. User scores is only useful if your own personal bias chooses it to be, but it's not like that. It doesn't, it only goes to the point that metacritic is flawed.
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Post by suikoden on Jun 20, 2017 19:02:56 GMT
It does. User scores is only useful if your own personal bias chooses it to be, but it's not like that. It doesn't, it only goes to the point that metacritic is flawed. It's flawed for every game - the playing field is the same. Must not be enough fans out there to prop up Andromedas grade. Maybe it just didn't sell well?
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Jun 20, 2017 19:03:29 GMT
Kotoreffect is not one of the tens...anywhere. Besides if he even bothered looking at my posting history thoroughly he would see I haven't exactly been criticism free when it comes to MEA. I have complained about the change from the old class system to the profile system as well as the removal of the power wheel more times than I can count. But we know he doesn't dig for actual facts when they don't fit his agenda. Now I will get this out in the open right now so it can't be used against me by any trolls. 5 years ago I did post a revenge 10 on ME 3 to counteract the trolls who were review bombing that game. That was 5 years ago and I haven't done anything like it since and I stand by my opinion of the overall broken nature of the metacritic user review system.
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