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Post by Ares on Jun 22, 2017 20:33:25 GMT
Dying with human adept requires skill tbh i guess i'm terrible. teach me how to be elite like you please Im no elite but how hard can it be to stay alive when you have two abilitys to incapacitate all red bar mooks (plus all shielded granted you can pew pew them couple times to strip shields) and on top of that you have saving barrier. I die a lot but thats just because I'm an idiot who rushes into stupid ass situations because scorewhoring.
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Post by seductivewizard on Jun 22, 2017 21:05:51 GMT
i guess i'm terrible. teach me how to be elite like you please Im no elite but how hard can it be to stay alive when you have two abilitys to incapacitate all red bar mooks (plus all shielded granted you can pew pew them couple times to strip shields) and on top of that you have saving barrier. I die a lot but thats just because I'm an idiot who rushes into stupid ass situations because scorewhoring. It has nothing to do with elite or not. Its probably cos' many folks on here didn't go through the grueling experience ME3MP platinum offered when playing squishy characters. But, the ones who went through it probably find this game to be piece of cake... When one runs platinum with the human engineer, quarian engineer, etc in ME3MP and comes to MEAMP, one realizes how much easier it is to play MEAMP 'supposedly' squishy characters like the human adept, human engineer, etc. In MEAMP, they all have their get outta jail cards in their pockets.
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Post by Kenny Bania on Jun 22, 2017 21:54:15 GMT
.. Maxing Pull is a must for Expose and Anti-Shields. .. I would like to see gameplay video of (you/ good player) using Anti-Shields adept. Here's some as promised, all from the same game... Far from elite gameplay, but shows how I use it.
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Post by killabkilledb on Jun 22, 2017 21:56:30 GMT
I would like to see gameplay video of (you/ good player) using Anti-Shields adept. Here's some as promised, all from the same game... Far from elite gameplay, but shows how I use it. Looks really fun. I may switch my melee build from 6B to 6A and try it out...
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Post by xaijin on Jun 22, 2017 22:29:45 GMT
Glad you like it, but this is not exactly news. Pwnytail had been a wrecking ball since 1.06. i guess, but i rarely see hadept being played in my gold pugs, and almost never see it mentioned on these boards Because much like real life, humans are boring.
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Post by peddroelm on Jun 23, 2017 6:09:00 GMT
back to my rozerad obsession: 0.5 seconds to reach full rof - higher than hurricane, *1.15 built in bonus vs shields (very important for biotics that are generally hampered by shields ), endless clip size ..
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Post by PillarBiter on Jun 23, 2017 6:23:16 GMT
I don`t know. It seems like too many kits are now beyond amazing with proper ammo and boosters. Human Adept is definitely a good kit though. well i actually consider her to be a direct improvement over the human kineticist (obviously this is opinion, not fact). the human kineticist is SLIGHTLY better at killing red bars, but significantly worse at dealing with armor or priming large groups of enemies *Hiss* Blasphemer! But the kineticist is spontaneous combustion hot, though
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Post by oniangel on Jun 23, 2017 6:42:34 GMT
Glad you like it, but this is not exactly news. Pwnytail had been a wrecking ball since 1.06. i guess, but i rarely see hadept being played in my gold pugs, and almost never see it mentioned on these boards Was my first character to max level and played it a lot early on while I had shit weapons. Moved to sentinel when I got vanquisher and then Merc after flack got buffed. I still the Adept. I do hate playing against Outlaws though with it.
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Post by f3rociouspanda on Jun 23, 2017 9:22:14 GMT
Isn't any class god tier if you use the hurricane with disruptor ammo? From what I watched of your videos you hardly even seemed to use singularity or shockwave
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Post by N7Mith on Jun 23, 2017 9:23:42 GMT
the hurricane doesn't strip anointed shields as quickly... hurricane this hurricane that .. Don't you have rozerad ? Pff, scrubs. Ponytail goes with Eagle!
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Post by N7Mith on Jun 23, 2017 9:32:55 GMT
honestly, watch my video in my original post (i promise i'm not trying to fish for views, just trying to translate my point) and you can see how quickly i can clear groups of enemies with the adept. Human adept is like Kineticist, hits hard and dies often. In the second video you died four times. That's a lot. I like my characters to have more survivability. You and I have very different values of what 'a lot' is.
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Post by gib on Jun 23, 2017 9:58:55 GMT
Human adept is like Kineticist, hits hard and dies often. In the second video you died four times. That's a lot. I like my characters to have more survivability. You and I have very different values of what 'a lot' is. You will both quantify it differently and isn't anything people will agree on tbh. I class 4 times as a lot as well. My partner is happy if she only goes down twice per wave I don't think I've played this class anywhere near enough yet. I found it severely underwhelming and squishy, but it's one of the few classes I've not got to 20 yet.
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Post by N7Mith on Jun 23, 2017 10:10:18 GMT
You and I have very different values of what 'a lot' is. You will both quantify it differently and isn't anything people will agree on tbh. I class 4 times as a lot as well. My partner is happy if she only goes down twice per wave I don't think I've played this class anywhere near enough yet. I found it severely underwhelming and squishy, but it's one of the few classes I've not got to 20 yet. I guess the manner in which I die is a factor as well; stupidity counts heavier than failing to health/shield-gate surf. But I guess I lack the peripheral vision to 'only' die 4 times a match consistently Sure, I'll have flawless runs with her, but those do nothing for you when you get flanked like hell the next game.
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Post by PillarBiter on Jun 23, 2017 11:59:59 GMT
If you die more than you can rez yourself, it's a lot...
Also, who dies a lot with a kineticist? O_o She's like super buff! What with her damage reduction and constant killshieldgain.
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Post by gib on Jun 23, 2017 12:42:27 GMT
I would like to see gameplay video of (you/ good player) using Anti-Shields adept. Here's some as promised, all from the same game... Far from elite gameplay, but shows how I use it. Can you share your build please?
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Post by Kenny Bania on Jun 23, 2017 12:48:48 GMT
Here's some as promised, all from the same game... Far from elite gameplay, but shows how I use it. Can you share your build please? Of course... Pull - 4b, 5b, 6a Singularity - 4b, 5b, 6a Shockwave - 1 point Offensive Biotics - 4b, 5a, 6b Barrier - 4a, 5b, 6b With a shotgun + shocktrooper gear, or the Talon + Pistol/SMG gear. No boosters in that game btw.
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Post by gib on Jun 23, 2017 19:37:40 GMT
Can you share your build please? Of course... Pull - 4b, 5b, 6a Singularity - 4b, 5b, 6a Shockwave - 1 point Offensive Biotics - 4b, 5a, 6b Barrier - 4a, 5b, 6b With a shotgun + shocktrooper gear, or the Talon + Pistol/SMG gear. No boosters in that game btw. Thanks very much. I have a build I like on almost every class except this one and your gameplay looked pretty interesting and different, so I'm going to give it a shot.
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Post by killabkilledb on Jun 23, 2017 20:00:18 GMT
If you die more than you can rez yourself, it's a lot... Also, who dies a lot with a kineticist? O_o She's like super buff! What with her damage reduction and constant killshieldgain. I do. I get knocked out of ascension by shit I can't see. A half second of lag in non-hosted lobbies is enough to knock you out a bunch of times. It doesn't help that I play as fast and aggressively as you possible can with her... And unless you die more than you can rex, its not a lot as someone else said. Whats the point of having a thousand saved up gels? I'd rather kill things faster and play more aggressively, get into chaotic situations and smash stuff... taking cover every few seconds is meh...
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Post by phazael on Jun 23, 2017 23:38:35 GMT
Yeah kineticist is not as good as the basic human adept. If you could trade lance for either Afield or Singularity, she would be worth that UR designation. As it is, you either get literally dog piled out of your shields or you end up with powers that do not work worth a damn on 80% of the available enemies. At least with the human adept, you can toss singularity out there for free damage and easy explosions. Hell, if you team with Vanguards and have no voice, just putting singularity down is as good as telling them to coop for massive explosions. The pull/throw into orbit is fun and hilarious, but not very practical as a core strategy outside of noob difficulty. Then you have to factor in that as an UR kit the average player is never going to see those extra points from Rank X to put all of the synergy together.
Human adept might not be the strongest kit (I would personally put the Human Infiltrator, Asari Duelist, and anything with Turbo ahead of it) but its better than most and (most importantly) not entirely boring.
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Post by phazael on Jun 23, 2017 23:41:23 GMT
PS- Gotta say that I generally prefer extended range and radius shockwave to make singularity explosions easier to pull off at a distance, but I like that build above for its utility. I tend to base my play of the kit around Singularity and often feel compelled to slot special ammo as a result.
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Post by gib on Jun 24, 2017 13:38:55 GMT
I've tried both builds now and still don't have a fondness for the class. Maybe I just need to put in more time with her ponytail.
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Post by derrame on Jun 24, 2017 15:57:29 GMT
just put all points on power damage and recharge time
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Post by PillarBiter on Jun 26, 2017 6:30:12 GMT
If you die more than you can rez yourself, it's a lot... Also, who dies a lot with a kineticist? O_o She's like super buff! What with her damage reduction and constant killshieldgain. I do. I get knocked out of ascension by shit I can't see. A half second of lag in non-hosted lobbies is enough to knock you out a bunch of times. It doesn't help that I play as fast and aggressively as you possible can with her... And unless you die more than you can rex, its not a lot as someone else said. Whats the point of having a thousand saved up gels? I'd rather kill things faster and play more aggressively, get into chaotic situations and smash stuff... taking cover every few seconds is meh... AH, yeah, I played her pretty snipely. She has a good long range game, so might as well use it. Not the most fancifull stuff, but still. But yeah, if played up close, she's a bit squisheir.
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Post by zeph on Jun 26, 2017 7:19:40 GMT
human sentinel: drop barricade to prime and powers (throw/energy drain) to detonate in middle of a group. Plus, if you're low on shields, use energy drain. Also has the highest weapon damage output.
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Post by Kenny Bania on Jun 26, 2017 7:30:04 GMT
human sentinel: drop barricade to prime and powers (throw/energy drain) to detonate in middle of a group. Plus, if you're low on shields, use energy drain. Also has the highest weapon damage output. Yeah, I don't think so somehow.
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