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Post by suikoden on Jun 29, 2017 9:26:06 GMT
Love this game ! Ian Frazier says he doesn't even know, who Sinclair Networks is hahaha. Pure fun, cause Sinclair Networks is listed as a official Andromeda Production Company next to BioWare on IMDB. What a liars. What are Sinclair Networks lying about? If Ian says he doesn't know them, I'm taking that as a true and accurate statement. www.imdb.com/company/co0623436/They're listed as working on Andromeda as well as dozens of other games. He's clearly lying in an attempt to shove all this under the rug. Either that or the management chain at Bioware is in complete chaos where nobody knows what's going on.
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Post by Conquer Your Dreams on Jun 29, 2017 9:27:19 GMT
Let's wait for BioWare/EA statement. It will be a joke if again they will decide to stay quiet.
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Post by Ahriman on Jun 29, 2017 9:28:28 GMT
My my, the only surprise here is the fact that SN broke their NDA. Yet some people are still in denial, what Bioware fanbase has become.
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Post by Conquer Your Dreams on Jun 29, 2017 9:37:21 GMT
What are Sinclair Networks lying about? If Ian says he doesn't know them, I'm taking that as a true and accurate statement. www.imdb.com/company/co0623436/They're listed as working on Andromeda as well as dozens of other games. He's clearly lying in an attempt to shove all this under the rug. Either that or the management chain at Bioware is in complete chaos where nobody knows what's going on. That's my point mate. It's impossible that he doesn't know who was co-producing MEA with them. They are avoiding any answers for a long time, but this ? Maybe tomorrow they will forgot that they even make MEA ?
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Post by SofNascimento on Jun 29, 2017 9:45:16 GMT
Let's wait for BioWare/EA statement. It will be a joke if again they will decide to stay quiet. They will. They have nothing to gain from talking about this.
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Post by SwobyJ on Jun 29, 2017 9:47:53 GMT
Everything has been so needlessly dramatic. And if the rumors are correct, they have been too dramatic for years.
Just make damn good games and I'll buy your damn good games and DLC. Jesus Christ.
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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on Jun 29, 2017 9:53:15 GMT
Bioware is pretty confident in Anthem, looking how they put all their money on a single horse the rest be damned. If Anthem is going to be the mediocre game I expect it to be this gonna be a lot of fun for Bioware. I'd be lying if I said that I'm not looking forward to gloat over Biowares lukewarm success with their new game.
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Post by Pokemario on Jun 29, 2017 9:54:42 GMT
Let's wait for BioWare/EA statement. It will be a joke if again they will decide to stay quiet. They will. They have nothing to gain from talking about this. Ever heard of damage control? Sinclair Networks made them pass for a cash-grubbing business that doesn't care for the community. Regardless of whether that's true or not, they need to get an official statement out regarding Mass Effect Andromeda's DLCs as soon as possible if they don't want their image to be even more tainted than it is right now.
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Post by Croatsky on Jun 29, 2017 9:55:13 GMT
My my, the only surprise here is the fact that SN broke their NDA. Yet some people are still in denial, what Bioware fanbase has become. Because they backtracked on their original statement a few times, as well made more bizarre statements. No way this company would have created 3 DLC packs only to be cancelled. Because for one, they don't create content. They polish already existing one. And two, that's a lot of EA's money just went to drain, if what they say is true. Oh and then they later said Bioware might still do DLC's on their own, just not with them. What a joke. What most likely happened they were removed from working on ME:A, so some employees went on petty revenge at 5 AM on Facebook.
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Post by roivas on Jun 29, 2017 9:59:01 GMT
So Anthem did take out Mass Effect after all. Damnit, Anthem, I just do not like you very much right now. Yeah I will not support that game at all. +1 The almost killed Mass Effect for a multiplayer game. Nice. + it's gonna be "science fantasy" they said, aka not a serious thing. Really not what I'm expecting from them (and kinda what they tried at some point int MEA & failled). Really not gonna buy this game, even if it's good because i want them back on ME. I'm kinda afraid that ME will never return (i don't care for a remake of the OT) & afraid also of what they will do with DA :/ (even if i'm more a ME fan than DA)
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Post by SofNascimento on Jun 29, 2017 9:59:31 GMT
They will. They have nothing to gain from talking about this. Ever heard of damage control? Sinclair Networks made them pass for a cash-grubbing business that doesn't care for the community. Are you saying they are not? Or more precisely, that that's how Bioware operates right now? Maybe they are forced to behave this way, but that's how they are. Is this really worse than saying the entire divison that made Andromeda was shutted down by a credible journalist? They didn't say anything about that, what would make they say anything about this?
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Post by Ahriman on Jun 29, 2017 10:00:41 GMT
My my, the only surprise here is the fact that SN broke their NDA. Yet some people are still in denial, what Bioware fanbase has become. Because they backtracked on their original statement a few times, as well made more bizarre statements. No way this company would have created 3 DLC packs only to be cancelled. Because for one, they don't create content. They polish already existing one. And two, that's a lot of EA's money just went to drain, if what they say is true. Oh and then they later said Bioware might still do DLC's on their own, just not with them. What a joke. What most likely happened they were removed from working on ME:A, so some employees went on petty revenge at 5 AM on Facebook. I bet if EA somehow officially confirmed cancellation (which they never will of course), you'd just say that this is marketing trick to get customer's attention. So if SN no longer works on anything related to single player, who do you think does? Minimal MP crew in Montreal during their lunch break?
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Post by SofaJockey on Jun 29, 2017 10:02:03 GMT
What are Sinclair Networks lying about? If Ian says he doesn't know them, I'm taking that as a true and accurate statement. www.imdb.com/company/co0623436/They're listed as working on Andromeda as well as dozens of other games. He's clearly lying in an attempt to shove all this under the rug. Either that or the management chain at Bioware is in complete chaos where nobody knows what's going on. No. He is not 'clearly lying'. People should be judged on their actions. BioWare employees are limited in what they can say, but in all dealings with this forum, Tiberius has been helpful and honest. If Ian says he doesn't know them, that will be taken on this forum as a true statement, irrespective of any corporate links, without hard evidence to the contrary. We are not going to be calling other forum members liars.
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Post by Croatsky on Jun 29, 2017 10:03:21 GMT
Let's wait for BioWare/EA statement. It will be a joke if again they will decide to stay quiet. They will. They have nothing to gain from talking about this. Bioware and EA exercised a massive vow of silence after original ME3 ending backlash for entire month, before needing to give in to release Director's Cut DLC. That backlash was massive, what they're getting today is nothing in comparison. And yet Bioware is doing things to answer on backlash they got with ME:A, without going more then writing stuff on their official blog. They had fixed facial animations, cutscenes, numerous bugs and to appease LGBT community on two issues. So really Bioware is still doing stuff for ME:A, they are just not acknowledging the overblown reaction they had received.
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Post by Pokemario on Jun 29, 2017 10:05:46 GMT
Ever heard of damage control? Sinclair Networks made them pass for a cash-grubbing business that doesn't care for the community. Are you saying they are not? Or more precisely, that that's how Bioware operates right now? Maybe they are forced to behave this way, but that's how they are. Is this really worse than saying the entire divison that made Andromeda was shutted down by a credible journalist? They didn't say anything about that, what would make they say anything about this? I'm saying that, regardless of whether that's true or not, they can't afford to have their image more tainted than it already is, nothing else. The journalist didn't say anything about BioWare not caring for the community, IIRC.
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Post by Croatsky on Jun 29, 2017 10:06:26 GMT
They will. They have nothing to gain from talking about this. Ever heard of damage control? Sinclair Networks made them pass for a cash-grubbing business that doesn't care for the community. Regardless of whether that's true or not, they need to get an official statement out regarding Mass Effect Andromeda's DLCs as soon as possible if they don't want their image to be even more tainted than it is right now. > doesn't care about community > calls in writers, voice actors and animators just to update Jaal as bisexual romance option Yeah, no. This is not an action of a studio that doesn't care at all for community.
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Post by SofNascimento on Jun 29, 2017 10:08:13 GMT
Are you saying they are not? Or more precisely, that that's how Bioware operates right now? Maybe they are forced to behave this way, but that's how they are. Is this really worse than saying the entire divison that made Andromeda was shutted down by a credible journalist? They didn't say anything about that, what would make they say anything about this? I'm saying that, regardless of whether that's true or not, they can't afford to have their image more tainted than it already is, nothing else. I think it's already as bad as it going to get with Andromeda.
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Post by Conquer Your Dreams on Jun 29, 2017 10:09:10 GMT
My my, the only surprise here is the fact that SN broke their NDA. Yet some people are still in denial, what Bioware fanbase has become. Because they backtracked on their original statement a few times, as well made more bizarre statements. No way this company would have created 3 DLC packs only to be cancelled. Because for one, they don't create content. They polish already existing one. And two, that's a lot of EA's money just went to drain, if what they say is true. Oh and then they later said Bioware might still do DLC's on their own, just not with them. What a joke. What most likely happened they were removed from working on ME:A, so some employees went on petty revenge at 5 AM on Facebook. Excuse me, are you working for BioWare ? The only thing you are doing is denying anything, every single information or rumour against them.
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Post by Croatsky on Jun 29, 2017 10:12:27 GMT
I bet if EA somehow officially confirmed cancellation (which they never will of course), you'd just say that this is marketing trick to get customer's attention. So if SN no longer works on anything related to single player, who do you think does? Minimal MP crew in Montreal during their lunch break?
Don't insult me. If EA says series is cancelled, then it is cancelled. Full stop. No arguments out of that. Historical precedent from EA says it all, when they say something is done, it is done. You can only hope for a reboot in 10 or so years, for better or worse. While I'm at historical precedent, EA is always upfront with when their released game is a disappointment. Dead Space 3 and Titanfall 2 are best examples. Each games were released from years apart, as well under different EA leadership and strategy. Yet in both cases, EA was upfront and honest with their disappointment. With ME:A, EA just said they're happy with Bioware and still have high expectations with that franchise. For otherwise to be true, a lot of things must have changed internally in EA in short period of time.
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Post by Ahriman on Jun 29, 2017 10:19:21 GMT
I bet if EA somehow officially confirmed cancellation (which they never will of course), you'd just say that this is marketing trick to get customer's attention. So if SN no longer works on anything related to single player, who do you think does? Minimal MP crew in Montreal during their lunch break?
Don't insult me. Huh?
Ok, whatever. But let's assume they don't say anything. At all. Is there a time limit when you'd say "Yep, nothing is coming"? A year? Two?
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Post by Conquer Your Dreams on Jun 29, 2017 10:21:03 GMT
Huh? Ok, whatever. But let's assume they don't say anything. At all. Is there a time limit when you'd say "Yep, nothing is coming"? A year? Two?
No, in August 2018 you will still hear from some people that everything is fine, you just need to wait a bit longer.
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Post by Pokemario on Jun 29, 2017 10:23:51 GMT
Ever heard of damage control? Sinclair Networks made them pass for a cash-grubbing business that doesn't care for the community. Regardless of whether that's true or not, they need to get an official statement out regarding Mass Effect Andromeda's DLCs as soon as possible if they don't want their image to be even more tainted than it is right now. > doesn't care about community > calls in writers, voice actors and animators just to update Jaal as bisexual romance option Yeah, no. This is not an action of a studio that doesn't care at all for community. Jaal's romance was cut from the game though. Pretty sure they already had most of, if not all of, the content they needed for the patch. Still, it was a move that they didn't need to do and they did it anyway to please their customers. (For the record, I do believe that BioWare cares about its community, but they can't always act with its best interests at heart)
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jun 29, 2017 10:25:20 GMT
Bioware is pretty confident in Anthem, looking how they put all their money on a single horse the rest be damned. If Anthem is going to be the mediocre game I expect it to be this gonna be a lot of fun for Bioware. I'd be lying if I said that I'm not looking forward to gloat over Biowares lukewarm success with their new game. Yeah I've gotto say if it's true I can't wait to see Anthem fail
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jun 29, 2017 10:27:57 GMT
Well, that was an entertaining read. Time will tell, I've been asking BioWare staff for a while if they have plans for a post-patch phase I just get the canned "we'll talk when we can" line. But until they say something I'm gonna wait and see. Expect the worst but hope for the best . yeah that's the kind of position I'm in
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Post by OdanUrr on Jun 29, 2017 10:33:19 GMT
Can't find their statement on FB anymore. Still, it wouldn't surprise me if it were true. One more reason not to buy Anthem at release.
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