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Post by alanc9 on Jul 4, 2017 15:51:39 GMT
Just make a remaster of the original trilogy, and bring back Shepard. Andromeda was garbage, and Ryder and his crew were boring. I'd rather the series to just die then have MEA2. I don't get it. Why do people want the cheapest money-grab imaginable? I'm not sure it even works as a money-grab. Who's the market? I've already got the OT, as do most people who actually care about the OT. OK, bringing ME1 and ME2 gameplay up to ME:A or ME3 standards (let's not argue which) and upgrading to Frostbite graphics would be worth something to me, but you couldn't sell that package to me for more than maybe $20.
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Post by alanc9 on Jul 4, 2017 15:53:40 GMT
How are we defining "reboot" for this poll?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2017 15:57:36 GMT
Just make a remaster of the original trilogy, and bring back Shepard. Andromeda was garbage, and Ryder and his crew were boring. I'd rather the series to just die then have MEA2. It's no skin of your nose whether or not they make an MEA2 then. Just don't buy it if it comes out and it won't exist for you.
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Post by evhgear on Jul 4, 2017 16:08:31 GMT
Maybe in 4-5 years we will ear about Andromeda 2. And a 5 years timelapse after the MEA story could be nice, to see how far the AI have progressed with 5 years without war, to see the terraforming of currents planets going on, etc. I'm not interrested in a 100year gap at the moment, seems there's still some stuff to do with Ryders and his squad
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Post by Bizo on Jul 4, 2017 16:46:10 GMT
My only concern is that they may want to ditch the continuity with the same protagonist over a few titles. It's one of the things i love about Mass Effect games and to a lesser extent Wolfenstein. It would be a shame since they kept the decision tree minimal with little to no impact over the world so it wouldn't be hard to take the players decisions into account when moving the story forward. Not to mention it's a perfect setup for a sequel.
If they want the world to develop fast they could simply hop the post Rannoch sentient Geth onboard the Quarian ark. Have the DLC save the ark and convince the Ai to accept the Geth. As we know from the OT the Geth are really good with building stuff really fast so they could help move things forward (In one of the dialogues with Tali she tells Shepard that the Geth can build stuff in months that would take the Quarians years), terraforming the world will be Meridian's job. The Ai just has to build on those worlds.
A 5-10 year gap should be more than enough to see major changes in the world. Heck they managed to almost finish the Nexus with little to no resources and personnel in 14 months.
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Post by Dabrikishaw on Jul 4, 2017 17:13:56 GMT
A sequel isn't just the only way forwards, it's the only way Bioware can prove it's interested in this concept and is willing to take it seriously. Just abandoning it after one game will be all the proof detractors need to feel vindicated for all the times they called Bioware out for leaving the Milky Way for a half-hearted game.
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Post by GruntKitterhand on Jul 4, 2017 17:25:51 GMT
The sequel could be the greatest game ever made, but don't expect the people whining about ME:A to ever want anything but to whine about the sequel. I started playing a great game back in March, but those people had already decided to subject the fans and creators of the game to hell years in advance. You know that whining about whining is still whining, right? As noted above, people are entitled to their own opinions, and this is a forum for discussing them, which was set up by fans after EA/Bioware removed that possibility by closing the original BSN and trying to get us all to communicate ideas in less than 140 characters. This is a fan site, but that doesn't mean we all have to be fanboys and girls. And anybody who knows me knows I can't do 140 characters - apologies in advance to those of you missing your Ritalin... When I post, it is to give my own opinion, not to jump on a bandwagon or dismiss others or whine about them just because I don't agree with them. I couldn't really give a crap what anybody else thinks my motivation is - I'm too old for that shit. I'm a Mass Effect-obsessive, even if I'm currently a slightly disgruntled one. I'm also happy for people who enjoy the game, even if I'm not one of them. I gave it an 8/10 in one of the other polls, though I was being much more generous than I really feel. I was assuming Quarian DLC was still part of the provisional picture at that stage, and without DLC this game would struggle to get an objective 7/10. Unlike you I didn't start playing a great game in March - I started playing a game which was released as a full-price Beta in an unacceptably bad state. There will undeniably be fallout for that with subsequent EA/Bioware releases. Pun intended, as the game was comparable to Fallout 4 on release. FO4 had patches, DLC, mods, and a fanbase 'used to that kind of thing' - most of which doesn't apply to MEA. The fact that many of its bugs have been fixed and that its combat mechanics are actually pretty good doesn't increase replayability or the quality of the unfocused writing, or get rid of Cora, or to a lesser extent Liam or Gil. They got Drack, Jaal and Vetra 'right' as characters, and against my original fears I'll concede that Peebee was actually well-written too. The others are terrible, and it's still a messy game where enemy factions created by different teams fight for screen time, without ever developing personalities worth being interested in, or hating with a passion like the Geth. And, most importantly for me, the suspension of disbelief required to go along with the SAM/illegal AI narrative is way beyond my capabilities. I was raised on 2001, War Games, Terminator and The Matrix, and have a loathing of AI to the point that I'm not able to turn a blind eye to it just because mah mom got sick. Mrs Ryder wasn't the only one who got sick. Would I trust them to make a better sequel? Nope. Does a part of me still hope they will? I don't know, probably not, because of my views on Artificial Intelligence and its illegality. I can't see where they could take a sequel that wouldn't anger me. I chose Destroy maybe 9 times out of 11 when playing the OT. But would I begrudge any of the rest of you a sequel you could enjoy? Absolutely not. I mean, I have no interest whatsoever in Dragon Age games, but I don't want them to not make DA4 just because I think they lost the run of themselves with MEA, and were scared for whatever reason to delay its release. I hope, for the benefit of the DA players among you, that they will get their shit together and give you something decent, but I think I'm pretty much done. I have no interest in a Destiny clone, especially one with 'Dylan' as a working title as it's such an insult to one of the true originals of our time. As I said earlier I would probably buy a remastered OT, but I've lost my faith in Bioware to be able produce anything new of decent quality. If you want to dismiss me as a whiner that's your business, but I suspect time will prove me right, though that in itself saddens me. My take on the Tomb Raider reboots: the first was superb, the second unbearably dull, repetitive, whining and ultimately unplayable more than once, despite the beauty of the presentation. An Uncharted 2 facsimile, without the fun. A third game is set up very nicely, but, at the risk of inflaming those of more politically correct views than myself, it would be quite nice to have just a teensy-weensy bit of actual human attractiveness, if not - dare I say the word? - sexiness about the main character. Sara Ryder being geeky or goofy is one thing, but this is Lara Croft we're talking about. Her incessant daddy-issues-contemplation in the second game was painful to put up with. The third really needs to lighten the tone.
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Post by Wulfram on Jul 4, 2017 17:58:55 GMT
A sequel to Andromeda isn't going to happen. A sequel to the trilogy might. But it's not going to happen before like 2022, anyway.
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Post by rahavan on Jul 4, 2017 18:07:52 GMT
They could even retcon the ME3 ending (going with indoctrination theory) and allow via player control to have Shepard live or still perish (because not everyone would like a happy fairy tail ending). They are definitely not going to take a dump on their own story to please people who want an ending that's not a Mass Effect ending if they do a remaster. Okay I'm genuinely curious as to what you mean by a "mass effect ending." In addition the writers who work on Mass effect now are not the same ones who did ME3s ending so it's not their story either.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jul 4, 2017 18:11:56 GMT
I'd love a sequel so voted for that but While I loved the Ryder and Andromeda story and hope it does continue I don't expect it after what's happened. I expect Bioware to just use the DLC's to wrap the story up and then forget about it most likely. They'll at least do that because they know that while MEA wasn't as successful as they were hoping for they know a lot of people still liked Ryder and will want their Ryder's at least to get a proper send off.
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Post by griffith82 on Jul 4, 2017 18:39:18 GMT
A sequel to Andromeda isn't going to happen. A sequel to the trilogy might. But it's not going to happen before like 2022, anyway. Yeah no not happening. The OT and Milky Way is done. Andromeda is the way forward.
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Post by vonuber on Jul 4, 2017 18:43:34 GMT
My take on the Tomb Raider reboots: the first was superb, the second unbearably dull, repetitive, whining and ultimately unplayable more than once, despite the beauty of the presentation.
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Post by Wulfram on Jul 4, 2017 18:48:38 GMT
A sequel to Andromeda isn't going to happen. A sequel to the trilogy might. But it's not going to happen before like 2022, anyway. Yeah no not happening. The OT and Milky Way is done. Andromeda is the way forward. Andromeda is dead, killed by the reaction to the game. Its a shame, since I really like the game, but there's absolutely no chance of a sequel. If there's any value left in the IP, its in the Milky Way. Selling a sequel to a trilogy that's often portrayed as one of the greatest ever is clearly easier than selling a sequel to a game that's portrayed as one of the worst.
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Post by Aries on Jul 4, 2017 19:34:30 GMT
If that's the way it works out I'll be very happy but if Anthem follows Destiny then I think Anthem will get some meaty expansions,not just patches and updates.My only fear is that the success of Anthem will impact on Bioware titles in general,putting the focus on "online service". I wish Bioware success and have no issue with gamers who enjoy online but it would mean Bioware moving away from the type of games I buy,I have no interest in "online" focused games. Focus on "online service" will probably happen regardless, as that is the general direction the industry is heading towards to. This however can mean pretty much anything. I doubt we will see a full blown MMO in any near future, as that genre has peaked some 6 years ago and has been falling down since, so it will likely be something focused on solo/small group co-op. However, BioWare have proven they are somewhat capable of merging good story and characters with MMO in SWTOR (which got plagued by bad management decisions (due to BW having no idea how voracious MMO players can be) shortly after its rushed launch (it needed at least another 3 months)), and the planned (and cancelled) asymmetric co-op Shadowrealms also appeared to have pretty well created and thought through world. So I would not necessarily be worried about the game lacking in story of characters just because it can be played with other people. On the other hand, you have EA cramming story modes even into games like FIFA and NBA, which also goes completely against the type of game they are...
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Post by suikoden on Jul 4, 2017 19:43:00 GMT
I'd rather the series to just die then have MEA2. At some point, people must come to a realization that believing something shouldn't exist based solely on your own disinterest for it, despite the existence of many people who are very much interested in it, is a monstrously selfish viewpoint and a colossal waste of one's life and mental energy. You realise your viewpoint is just as selfish?
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Post by griffith82 on Jul 4, 2017 19:44:35 GMT
Yeah no not happening. The OT and Milky Way is done. Andromeda is the way forward. Andromeda is dead, killed by the reaction to the game. Its a shame, since I really like the game, but there's absolutely no chance of a sequel. If there's any value left in the IP, its in the Milky Way. Selling a sequel to a trilogy that's often portrayed as one of the greatest ever is clearly easier than selling a sequel to a game that's portrayed as one of the worst. Wow you just have "sources" if you're so certain lol. No there is no evidence of that being true at all. And there is no future going back only forward.
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Post by griffith82 on Jul 4, 2017 19:48:23 GMT
At some point, people must come to a realization that believing something shouldn't exist based solely on your own disinterest for it, despite the existence of many people who are very much interested in it, is a monstrously selfish viewpoint and a colossal waste of one's life and mental energy. You realise your viewpoint is just as selfish? I think you need to look up what selfish means. Constantly throwing shade in a game, berating people who like it that's selfish not what he said.
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Post by LilTIM on Jul 4, 2017 19:50:55 GMT
It's too early to tell, ask again when MEA content cycle is over.
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Post by llandwynwyn on Jul 4, 2017 20:10:47 GMT
MEA was the reboot. It depends on EA if it'll get a sequel or not, if ME is dropped.
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Post by alanc9 on Jul 4, 2017 20:31:26 GMT
Yeah no not happening. The OT and Milky Way is done. Andromeda is the way forward. Andromeda is dead, killed by the reaction to the game. Its a shame, since I really like the game, but there's absolutely no chance of a sequel. If there's any value left in the IP, its in the Milky Way. Selling a sequel to a trilogy that's often portrayed as one of the greatest ever is clearly easier than selling a sequel to a game that's portrayed as one of the worst. It's not like the problems with staying in the MW have gone away, though. How would you resolve them?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2017 20:44:19 GMT
Yeah no not happening. The OT and Milky Way is done. Andromeda is the way forward. Andromeda is dead, killed by the reaction to the game. Its a shame, since I really like the game, but there's absolutely no chance of a sequel. If there's any value left in the IP, its in the Milky Way. Selling a sequel to a trilogy that's often portrayed as one of the greatest ever is clearly easier than selling a sequel to a game that's portrayed as one of the worst. Then, there's no value in the IP, period. The OT is done... the fans killed it trying to force Bioware into changing the ending to ME3. They are getting what they deserve if EA just shelves it and forgets it. Enjoy what you've got. If there's no DLC coming and no sequel to Andromeda coming, there is nothing more coming, period... except mulltiplayer. The upside... this silly "war" will at last be over for good. Think about it - If EA cannot see enough profit in making even 1 SP DLC for a game that had initial sales higher than either ME1 or ME2 and has already the plot perfectly set up for said DLC built right into the main game; they are certainly not going to see a profit to be made in remaking 3 old games on a new engine as well as rewriting a significant portion of the final game... particularly when there have been significant amounts of criticism heaped on all 3 of those games for various "deficits" - e.g. lousy combat in ME1, planet scanning in ME2, autodialogue in ME3. It just ain't gonna happen.
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Post by shechinah on Jul 4, 2017 20:47:02 GMT
At some point, people must come to a realization that believing something shouldn't exist based solely on your own disinterest for it, despite the existence of many people who are very much interested in it, is a monstrously selfish viewpoint and a colossal waste of one's life and mental energy. You realise your viewpoint is just as selfish? How is that viewpoint selfish?
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on Jul 4, 2017 20:50:35 GMT
If they've no interest in a sequel i think they should let premise rest in peace rather than spawning a cheap reboot. I'd say a reboot that starts over again is the least likely no matter what. For one, it's just way too soon for that sort of thing. Tomb Raider easily lends itself to reboots. Like, does anyone remember or really give a shit what actually went on in the original games anymore? Heck, before the reboot was released, the only thing I could really remember about Tomb Raider anymore was aging polygons and those crummy Angelina Jolie flicks. You spoke for me. I agree.
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Post by sugarless on Jul 4, 2017 20:53:06 GMT
I voted yes because Bioware will utilise all the criticism and/or praise that came with ME:A and make a fabulous sequel.
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Post by Wulfram on Jul 4, 2017 20:59:38 GMT
Andromeda is dead, killed by the reaction to the game. Its a shame, since I really like the game, but there's absolutely no chance of a sequel. If there's any value left in the IP, its in the Milky Way. Selling a sequel to a trilogy that's often portrayed as one of the greatest ever is clearly easier than selling a sequel to a game that's portrayed as one of the worst. It's not like the problems with staying in the MW have gone away, though. How would you resolve them? Pick canon outcomes and/or handwave away the differences that need to be handled. With the next Mass Effect game probably not coming out until a decade after ME3, I think that resistance to that sort of thing will have waned. edit: Alternatively, we could try Mass Effect: Large Magellanic Cloud
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