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Post by Kenny Bania on Jul 6, 2017 19:14:37 GMT
I wish I could understand the mindset behind raging over adding more content to a game. Fuck em, and fuck anyone who defends this bullshit |
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Post by kinslayer777 on Jul 6, 2017 19:19:46 GMT
So one other thing to consider, we might not even get a next Mass Effect unless this makes them a boat load of money from people buying packs. Sure the grind got way tougher but if that is what it takes to continue the series I am all for it. This move isn't about us, it is about them staying alive.
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Post by Abramsrunner on Jul 6, 2017 19:19:48 GMT
Well, at least the different weapon versions at level I have the same stats as its standard level X self. Isn't this a bad thing? If that's true and I unlock the variant version of the Talon, there is no reason to ever equip the vanilla Talon. I don't like leveling up or introducing gear that utterly invalidates older gear. That's power creep and completely justifies the initial reaction to all this added RNG bloat. I think you'll only start unlocking the 3 versions after the weapon for it gets to level X. Edit:I believe this will also mean you can only get Weapon mods with MFs now, well, until you max out a rarity section with guns, & characters. |
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Post by Schachmatt123 on Jul 6, 2017 19:22:14 GMT
Wow, what great lives people have if they're inspired to sociopathic whining towards the devs because more content has been added to a game. Don't even pretend to be a "fanboi". You --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------> The point. We got one character, one weapon and a few poor weapon mods in terms of purchasable content. The rest is just recycled stuff. |
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Post by Abramsrunner on Jul 6, 2017 19:25:48 GMT
We got one character, one weapon and a few medicre (at best) mods in terms of purchable content. The rest is just recycled stuff. Hey now, some of the recycled stuff have super ugly skins on them now, you gotta give biovur credit where credit is due. |
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Post by What Else You Need To Know? on Jul 6, 2017 19:26:59 GMT
I mean... I don't know where to start. I was super excited about all those changes they made and Platinum and the Batarian and new guns. I like to give Bioware credit where it's due. UNTIL I HEARD ABOUT THOSE NEW WEAPONS/CHARACTERS. Characters now go to 20? Weapons each have a Bulwark/Siphon/whateverthefuck other version so each weapon now has to be collected 4 times to X? I am sure we all realize how insanely they just diluted the loot pool? And don't get me wrong, I do enjoy the grind to a certain extent and most of those weapons will work fine just as their normal version but imagine how hard it would be to let's say get the Dhan if you never have it! Theoretically, you may have to collect all other weapons x 40 times until you get a regular Dhan?! Plus, they did it in such a cheap way - by adding 3 mods to existing weapons instead of providing true real content (I wouldn't have raged if they'd added a Lancer, an Ark pistol, whatever other really *different* gun to the pool, even if they all were URs). I feel that they are insulting our intelligence at this point of time. And I am sure that there are people who will enjoy this new cheap grind version but I know that I am not the only one offended at what Biower just did. Right? RIGHT?  //Rant over. This is clearly a rage topic but I needed to do it, otherwise I would have probably ended at the bottom of a wine bottle(s). So don't hate too much, this is my coping mechanism.  Don't worry. With Anthem being developed from the ground up we at EAware can make sure all of your issues will be addressed in that game. Please be sure to check out and buy the Ultra Patriot Edition today. Anthem is shaping up to be our biggest undertaking and most extensively tested game to date. Thank you for your comments and future support. You make our creative visions become reality.  |
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Post by What Else You Need To Know? on Jul 6, 2017 19:28:45 GMT
I wish I could understand the mindset behind raging over adding more content to a game. You could. Just have to look a little past the lights and the curtain. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2017 19:30:37 GMT
So one other thing to consider, we might not even get a next Mass Effect unless this makes them a boat load of money from people buying packs. Sure the grind got way tougher but if that is what it takes to continue the series I am all for it. This move isn't about us, it is about them staying alive. This is probably going to rock your world, but the series is doing perfectly fine whether or not Andromeda was exactly what you wanted. |
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Post by onehitparry on Jul 6, 2017 19:33:20 GMT
Have you ever watched the Yellow Submarine movie? I feel like it's about that amount of high.
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Post by helios969 on Jul 6, 2017 19:36:23 GMT
I really don't see it as much of a big deal from a manifest standpoint. In a month of playing I've accrued twice the manifest I did in ME3MP after 3 months. My "concern" is that it further water's down the difficulty of gold matches...everyone will be soloing that shit with level 20 characters. It's a rare match when everyone doesn't extract. And unless platinum is 3x harder than gold right now, all that's been accomplished is a shiny color swap for difficulties.
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Post by jadedragonmtr on Jul 6, 2017 19:38:07 GMT
There's nothing like going back and buying lower level packs that makes you feel like a noob again.
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Post by JRandall0308 on Jul 6, 2017 19:39:48 GMT
As soon as you get 1 weapon / character to X you fuck yourself for that rarity tier. Because it will be possible (likely, even) to get ranks 11-20 of your rank 10 stuff before you unlock the new stuff.
Did you not already have all URs at least unlocked? Well fuck you, you're statistically fucked now.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2017 19:41:29 GMT
As I understand it, you won't get modified versions of a weapon until you have that vanilla weapon to X.
If they could be convinced to not award any modified weapons until the player has all of the vanilla versions to X, these additions would be much easier to accept.
Ditto with characters and levels above X.
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Post by Kazu on Jul 6, 2017 19:42:23 GMT
Even Diablo 3's seasons are a better constructed grindfest for reskins.
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Post by gethadept on Jul 6, 2017 19:42:25 GMT
Fuck all people who go shopping for andromeda points now. Don't support this kind of greedy attitude! /rant over. Derpware pls Does it really work? People still buy AP? Dang! |
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Post by Kenny Bania on Jul 6, 2017 19:44:24 GMT
As soon as you get 1 weapon / character to X you fuck yourself for that rarity tier. Because it will be possible (likely, even) to get ranks 11-20 of your rank 10 stuff before you unlock the new stuff. Did you not already have all URs at least unlocked? Well fuck you, you're statistically fucked now. You have to be pretty fucking dumb not to be able to see that. But, but, but you're getting mad at new content doe... Morons. |
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Post by Sparkz on Jul 6, 2017 19:46:27 GMT
As I understand it, you won't get modified versions of a weapon until you have that vanilla weapon to X. If they could be convinced to not award any modified weapons until the player has all of the vanilla versions to X, these additions would be much easier to accept. Ditto with characters and levels above X. That....actually makes a lot of sense. Why didn't they just do this.  |
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Post by jadedragonmtr on Jul 6, 2017 19:47:12 GMT
As soon as you get 1 weapon / character to X you fuck yourself for that rarity tier. Because it will be possible (likely, even) to get ranks 11-20 of your rank 10 stuff before you unlock the new stuff. Did you not already have all URs at least unlocked? Well fuck you, you're statistically fucked now. Yeah, we're so eager to get 10 more Zalkin! |
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Post by vastator on Jul 6, 2017 19:47:37 GMT
It's not that BW is high. It's you players that are for accepting this BS. I played a fair bit of Andromeda, having also many moments of fun, but trying to ignore the problems this game has at the same time. But when they added the lazy S weapons i said "screw this game, i'm playing something else. The grinding is painful enough and the interesting weapons are few, why inflating the drops with 50 boring and useless weapon cards? This is the last straw, i'm out"
Now i see that they added gazillion of """"new""""" ranks, and """"""new""""" weapons. And what i find even funnier is that they have gone full retard with the "special" features.
Look, this is a sci-fi series and i expect that all the "magic" stuff have some reasonable "scientific" explanation. And the trilogy did a good job in explaining how all the tech and biotic things work. Yeah, you have to ignore some bit here and there, but the result was acceptable.
But now, how the hell do you explain a weapon that when hitting enemies regenerate your health? Or a weapon that by landing HS create a biotic explosion? Really? Ahahaha!
Man, as an outside spectator this is really funny. I'm really enjoying my popcorns. Plz continue with this show!
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Post by JRandall0308 on Jul 6, 2017 19:48:32 GMT
The explanation is simple: SPACE MAGIC!
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Post by onehitparry on Jul 6, 2017 19:49:13 GMT
As soon as you get 1 weapon / character to X you fuck yourself for that rarity tier. Because it will be possible (likely, even) to get ranks 11-20 of your rank 10 stuff before you unlock the new stuff. Did you not already have all URs at least unlocked? Well fuck you, you're statistically fucked now. Would you mind brining this up in the next twitch stream? In particular, they already admitted to the fact that they have information on player manifest progression. The conspiracy theorist in me is inclined to believe that they're moving the goal posts anytime they think the player base as a whole is getting too close. |
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Post by dabbler77 on Jul 6, 2017 19:50:19 GMT
The veteran bonus for the characters I can kinda of agree since the bonuses are pretty significant however the variations for the weapons could have just been added as an additional mod effect with better effects as it ranks up. Instead now you have to scroll 3x as much weapons on the weapon select to get the weapons you want. It's messy and increases the grind in an unnecessary way.
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Post by Schachmatt123 on Jul 6, 2017 19:50:56 GMT
Just saw the stats on the new weapon mods. So, these new mods - they're only available via the item store, right? Because if this crap (and calling them crap is still nicely put imho) shows up in packs, then this would be the ultimate troll. I never used that shit in singleplayer - it's effectively a huge nerf for the weapon.
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Post by CHRrOME on Jul 6, 2017 19:51:11 GMT
Yeah I get you. And although I don't want to go full verbal against them, I feel your pain.
Honestly, adding "variants" of weapons is the cheapest way to cheat "more content" . Especially when you have to grind 10 times the same weapon for each variant.
The character veteran ranks sound cool, but again, you're making us grind another 10 times for kits we already have, it takes our progression and literally tosses it to the window. I like the idea, but implemented in some other way, maybe getting certain amount of points with that kit gets you higher veteran ranks, makes more sense.
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