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Post by DisturbedPsic0 on Jul 6, 2017 19:54:01 GMT
I just don't get this. Way too many UR unlocks. Plus my unlock rate is alarmingly low. I am at ~70 hours and I have all my rares maxed except weapons, and I'm 30% through those. I was seeing progress. Now they literally more than doubled the content. Instead of being able to get the new character to rank X quickly, I have to wade through veteran levels of other cards. This is unlock overload and a lazy response to balance.
I'd love to see their analytics for what everyone's manifests looks like, so I can understand their reasoning for adding so many freaking cards. They could've accomplished the same result with a new booster slot, or augments like single player.
They basically said, no worries you won't unlock those super cool variants until the guns are at X. So good luck having fun with UR weapons. You won't see that for another 200-300 hours. Once you unlock one, there is literally no reason to use the vanilla version. Exactly why I hate the S variant weapons.
I understand they're doing things to try and make the game fun and fresh, but the execution is troubling and frustrating. Plus a lot of this "new" equipment was in ME3. Can we please stop acting like slowly releasing stuff that was in ME3 is new content? Arsenal and Reserve packs and Jumbo packs already existed. Why did it take 3 months to get them here? Why is equipment only available with mission funds that are limited daily? Why are they slowly released over time? Why can't I buy specific items (pistol amps or ammo). Why do 100k packs only give 1 freaking cobra or ammo pack? These are things that need addressed. Not adding 30 freaking additional UR cards for most weapons.
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Post by JRandall0308 on Jul 6, 2017 19:54:09 GMT
As soon as you get 1 weapon / character to X you fuck yourself for that rarity tier. Because it will be possible (likely, even) to get ranks 11-20 of your rank 10 stuff before you unlock the new stuff. Did you not already have all URs at least unlocked? Well fuck you, you're statistically fucked now. Would you mind brining this up in the next twitch stream? In particular, they already admitted to the fact that they have information on player manifest progression. The conspiracy theorist in me is inclined to believe that they're moving the goal posts anytime they think the player base as a whole is getting to close. Should I include the phrase 'statistically fucked'? *Muttley*
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Post by kaileena_sands on Jul 6, 2017 19:57:47 GMT
Would you mind brining this up in the next twitch stream? In particular, they already admitted to the fact that they have information on player manifest progression. The conspiracy theorist in me is inclined to believe that they're moving the goal posts anytime they think the player base as a whole is getting to close. Should I include the phrase 'statistically fucked'? *Muttley* It's a perfectly valid term, we have actually thrown it around at the office occasionally.
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Post by jadedragonmtr on Jul 6, 2017 19:58:32 GMT
Just saw the stats on the new weapon mods. So, these new mods - they're only available via the item store, right? Because if this crap (and calling them crap is still nicely put imho) shows up in packs, then this would be the ultimate troll. I never used that shit in singleplayer - it's effectively a huge nerf for the weapon. Compared to Bioware, Trevor Phillips is a clean and sober man. I got one when I bought an expert pack. Link has a picture captured on my phone. bsn.boards.net/thread/11912/new-guns?page=1#post-786643
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Post by christsuperstar on Jul 6, 2017 19:59:56 GMT
Pretty much this...
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Post by jadedragonmtr on Jul 6, 2017 20:09:34 GMT
As I understand it, you won't get modified versions of a weapon until you have that vanilla weapon to X. If they could be convinced to not award any modified weapons until the player has all of the vanilla versions to X, these additions would be much easier to accept. Ditto with characters and levels above X. Actually you'd still have to buy more basic/advanced/expert packs if you didn't want to get the X variant guns in your UR packs, right? Those credits you spend on these lower level packs drastically slow down you progression on maxing out your URs and your manifest. For all that money, you'll just get a better Zalkin or whatever that they should've given us in the beginning.
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Post by PATPATPATlol on Jul 6, 2017 20:13:23 GMT
I have to agree with OP. More cards to unlock was a fucking stupid idea. Weapon variants are bad enough but now there's more character cards to unlock? (Character cards were stupid to begin with)
Really not sure if I want to get back into the game. Urge to burn........rising.
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Post by Beerfish on Jul 6, 2017 20:14:46 GMT
Relax, relax, things could always be worse. I am a New York Jets fan, so beat that!
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Post by q5tyhj on Jul 6, 2017 20:26:00 GMT
one more reason why you toss MEA out the airlock and go back to ME3MP.. trust me folks, you won't regret it (I haven't even had the urge to boot up MEA in a month or two now)
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Post by XCPTNL on Jul 6, 2017 20:29:23 GMT
I guess Bioware really does not want me to play anymore. Just as I got back into the game last weekend. Fuck this "let's add 231231237103 more cards to unlock of the same shit" attitude. I was already pissed about the "S" Version of weapons (should have just balanced the default ones) and now this. Bioware go fuck yourself!
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Post by f3rociouspanda on Jul 6, 2017 20:37:36 GMT
Does anyone have a Bulwark/Siphon/Concussive weapon over rank 1? All my friends and I haven't gotten any, so I was wondering if it was just luck or if the weapons don't actually go to rank X
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Post by inert on Jul 6, 2017 20:40:24 GMT
Relax, relax, things could always be worse. I am a New York Jets fan, so beat that! Toronto Maple Leafs Fan here. Haven't won the cup since '67. Pretty sure the Jets won in the late 60's. I have yet to try it, but I doubt Platinum will be fun enough to hold my attention. If this is the case, then I was never going to come close to maxing my manifest anyway. The game simply was never engaging enough. I'll try out platinum for a few games and then jump back to ME3MP until I get bored or it runs its course.
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Post by Beerfish on Jul 6, 2017 20:44:02 GMT
Well the thing about plat is, it is one thing to make the game tougher, super tough, that i can deal with but if as people are stating that it i a must to have infils in every game due to the objectives that will really make things boring fast and make it a pure farm mode.
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Post by xaijin on Jul 6, 2017 20:45:29 GMT
I wish I could understand the mindset behind raging over adding more content to a game. Probably because you consider a blue thing that is exactly like a red thing you already own to be "new". This is not content. This is filler. This method didn't work for Warfarme, it didn't work for APB and it didn't work for Monster Hunter or even FFXI. It quite literally reeks of desperation and whale pandering.
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Post by xaijin on Jul 6, 2017 20:46:43 GMT
So one other thing to consider, we might not even get a next Mass Effect unless this makes them a boat load of money from people buying packs. Sure the grind got way tougher but if that is what it takes to continue the series I am all for it. This move isn't about us, it is about them staying alive. This is probably going to rock your world, but the series is doing perfectly fine whether or not Andromeda was exactly what you wanted. The series is canceled, defenestrating what little logic your statement possessed.
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Post by Pearl on Jul 6, 2017 20:55:16 GMT
euthanize me captain
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Post by gethadept on Jul 6, 2017 20:59:04 GMT
I think BW/EA can do this because they firmly decided there will be no future Mass Effect game coming out.
They don`t care for bad rep on ME anymore.
This is the last opportunity for them to cash out and they will do whatever it takes to get more cash and least amount of work to make things look interesting.
Just my belief.
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Post by Seraphiene on Jul 6, 2017 21:02:44 GMT
kaileena_sands , that is a great rant! So true! I can't even describe what went through my head when I saw what they did there.
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Post by onehitparry on Jul 6, 2017 21:03:05 GMT
I think BW/EA can do this because they firmly decided there will be no future Mass Effect game coming out. They don`t care for bad rep on ME anymore. This is the last opportunity for them to cash out and they will do whatever it takes to get more cash and least amount of work to make things look interesting. Just my belief. The cynic in me agrees.
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Post by lennybusker on Jul 6, 2017 21:12:08 GMT
Does anyone have a Bulwark/Siphon/Concussive weapon over rank 1? All my friends and I haven't gotten any, so I was wondering if it was just luck or if the weapons don't actually go to rank X EDIT: I'M DUMB DON'T LISTEN TO ME i.imgur.com/npsAs7a.png
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Post by DisturbedPsic0 on Jul 6, 2017 21:23:03 GMT
Does anyone have a Bulwark/Siphon/Concussive weapon over rank 1? All my friends and I haven't gotten any, so I was wondering if it was just luck or if the weapons don't actually go to rank X Fairly certain that it's rank the gun up to X, then you get the three variants unlocked, and that's it. So a total of 13 cards per weapon now. They said on stream each new variant ranks up to X. So 30 extra unlocks per weapon.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2017 21:23:27 GMT
As I understand it, you won't get modified versions of a weapon until you have that vanilla weapon to X. If they could be convinced to not award any modified weapons until the player has all of the vanilla versions to X, these additions would be much easier to accept. Ditto with characters and levels above X. Actually you'd still have to buy more basic/advanced/expert packs if you didn't want to get the X variant guns in your UR packs, right? Those credits you spend on these lower level packs drastically slow down you progression on maxing out your URs and your manifest. For all that money, you'll just get a better Zalkin or whatever that they should've given us in the beginning. Well - the Expert, Premium, etc. packs are guaranteed to contain (a) rare with a small chance for a UR. The other cards in the pack can be anything - including upgrades to lower rarity chars/weaps/mods. So - I guess if players go back and start buying basic/advanced packs to get these new additions, then their rare/UR progress will be slowed because they'll be spending credits on lower level packs. I haven't yet decided whether I want to do that, or just continue buying Premium Packs. The biggest insult imho is that the new versions will render the vanilla versions we worked so hard to earn obsolete.
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Post by kaileena_sands on Jul 6, 2017 21:27:44 GMT
Fairly certain that it's rank the gun up to X, then you get the three variants unlocked, and that's it. So a total of 13 cards per weapon now. They said on stream each new variant ranks up to X. So 30 extra unlocks per weapon. That's indeed what they said but who knows - we all know by now how disorganized BW are. It would be good to have a clear confirmation so that I know if my rage should be at high or super-nova levels.
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Post by Dekibra on Jul 6, 2017 21:32:51 GMT
thanks for posting this ... now I know it was the best decision ever to shelf that game
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Post by loolandre on Jul 6, 2017 21:34:27 GMT
They said on stream each new variant ranks up to X. So 30 extra unlocks per weapon. That's indeed what they said but who knows - we all know by now how disorganized BW are. It would be good to have a clear confirmation so that I know if my rage should be at high or super-nova levels. If the new weapons indeed rank up to X each, I think I'm done with this game. That is too much grind for my taste. That would essentially mean 40 levels for each weapon. Ridiculous.
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