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Post by lennybusker on Jul 6, 2017 21:35:34 GMT
Fairly certain that it's rank the gun up to X, then you get the three variants unlocked, and that's it. So a total of 13 cards per weapon now. They said on stream each new variant ranks up to X. So 30 extra unlocks per weapon. Yeah I'm dumb. Thanks.
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Post by lennybusker on Jul 6, 2017 21:36:05 GMT
That's indeed what they said but who knows - we all know by now how disorganized BW are. It would be good to have a clear confirmation so that I know if my rage should be at high or super-nova levels. If the new weapons indeed rank up to X each, I think I'm done with this game. That is too much grind for my taste. That would essentially mean 40 levels for each weapon. Ridiculous. i.imgur.com/npsAs7a.pngConfirmed.
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Post by kaileena_sands on Jul 6, 2017 21:36:19 GMT
thanks for posting this ... now I know it was the best decision ever to shelf that game Do you still play ME3 occasionally by any chance? I do sometimes to get away from this current bullshit.
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Post by Pearl on Jul 6, 2017 21:42:25 GMT
If the new weapons indeed rank up to X each, I think I'm done with this game. That is too much grind for my taste. That would essentially mean 40 levels for each weapon. Ridiculous. i.imgur.com/npsAs7a.pngConfirmed. It boggles my mind how out-of-touch they are. I was kinda looking forward to having something comfy to play once I finish building my new PC, but now there's no way on God's green earth that I would consider starting a new manifest, or give Bio another dime.
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Post by The Joe-Man on Jul 6, 2017 21:46:32 GMT
I can't say I've ever though to myself "This gun is pretty cool looking. If only it was bright PURPLE!" Exactly what kind of unicorn lovers do they have working in the art department nowadays?
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Post by mrfuddyduddy on Jul 6, 2017 22:04:09 GMT
I can't say I've ever though to myself "This gun is pretty cool looking. If only it was bright PURPLE!" Exactly what kind of unicorn lovers do they have working in the art department nowadays? If I can throw one good thing out of all this, is that these new variants of the weapons starting stats are those of the default X version of the weapon. So getting say a Rozerad Siphon I is like basically skipping Rozerad II -IX, which is kind of cool for people like myself who's highest level UR weapon is II.
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Post by Sparkz on Jul 6, 2017 22:06:28 GMT
I can't say I've ever though to myself "This gun is pretty cool looking. If only it was bright PURPLE!" Exactly what kind of unicorn lovers do they have working in the art department nowadays? If I can throw one good thing out of all this, is that these new variants of the weapons starting stats are those of the default X version of the weapon. So getting say a Rozerad Siphon I is like basically skipping Rozerad II -IX, which is kind of cool for people like myself who's highest level UR weapon is II. I thought you couldn't get a variant version of a gun until you maxed out the vanilla version to X first. Correct? So it would be impossible to get a Rozerad Siphon I before you got your vanilla Rozerad to X.
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Post by christsuperstar on Jul 6, 2017 22:08:47 GMT
They said on stream each new variant ranks up to X. So 30 extra unlocks per weapon. That's indeed what they said but who knows - we all know by now how disorganized BW are. It would be good to have a clear confirmation so that I know if my rage should be at high or super-nova levels. I'm actually still in disbelief they could be so stupid - was their impression of the S recycled weapons, that they were such a huge well received success they had to fucking triple it?
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Post by mrfuddyduddy on Jul 6, 2017 22:09:07 GMT
If I can throw one good thing out of all this, is that these new variants of the weapons starting stats are those of the default X version of the weapon. So getting say a Rozerad Siphon I is like basically skipping Rozerad II -IX, which is kind of cool for people like myself who's highest level UR weapon is II. I thought you couldn't get a variant version of a gun until you maxed out the vanilla version to X first. Correct? So it would be impossible to get a Rozerad Siphon I before you got your vanilla Rozerad to X. I honestly have no idea, played a Gold, and 2 Platinum today (one was a wave 6 wipe) and I blew the 200K+ I got on nothing but Basic packs to get the Common crap to XX out of the way and I ended up getting one of the new variants but for a gun I have at X already.
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Post by lennybusker on Jul 6, 2017 22:09:32 GMT
I can't say I've ever though to myself "This gun is pretty cool looking. If only it was bright PURPLE!" Exactly what kind of unicorn lovers do they have working in the art department nowadays? If I can throw one good thing out of all this, is that these new variants of the weapons starting stats are those of the default X version of the weapon. So getting say a Rozerad Siphon I is like basically skipping Rozerad II -IX, which is kind of cool for people like myself who's highest level UR weapon is II. You can't unlock the variants until you're at X.
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Post by mrfuddyduddy on Jul 6, 2017 22:16:42 GMT
If I can throw one good thing out of all this, is that these new variants of the weapons starting stats are those of the default X version of the weapon. So getting say a Rozerad Siphon I is like basically skipping Rozerad II -IX, which is kind of cool for people like myself who's highest level UR weapon is II. You can't unlock the variants until you're at X. Well that's incredibly lame, guess I wont ever get any of the UR variants then lol
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Post by Sentinel2010 on Jul 6, 2017 23:21:01 GMT
Thanks Bioware. I'll just go for some more Killing Floor 2.
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Post by Heroicmass on Jul 6, 2017 23:32:54 GMT
As someone that has a lot less time to play games now than in the past the addition of so many cards has me disappointed. I was so close to finally maxing my rares to only have an unbelievable number of additional cards added to the pool. I really hope the decisions such as this dont end up in any future games as it is a poor trend.
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Post by spacev3gan on Jul 6, 2017 23:43:21 GMT
I am a top grinder. I play mostly with other top grinders and I presume we will stick long enough to get to play with most toys added in Patch 1.09.
I myself have vocally defended the MEAMP progression model which existed until this morning. I said it was great, fair, generous and all. I have defended several times how casual-friendly it is, and how even casual players can aim to max their manifest if they play it regularly for several months. Way, way more casual-friendly than ME3MP progression model ever was.
Now what they added with Patch 1.09, I just can't defend that. They multiplied the cards to 2x for Characters and 4x for Guns, plus the extra original stuff added in. A maxed manifest, once attainable for those willing to clock about 450-500 hours in the game playing Gold, now has being raised to almost 2,000 hours. I know Platinum might cut those hours down, but we don't know exactly by how much nor even for whom - most of the playerbase don't play Gold regularly, let alone Platinum.
The grind in MEAMP has been raised to DAIMP levels. It demands a shitton of hours and it keeps rewarding those who have invested a shitton of time in the game, while it belittles the vast majority who aren't hardcore players. Bioware might think that is an incentive to get people to play more, but they have experienced things usually go the other way around: people get fed up and quit the game en masse.
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Post by MrsFlyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyingKebab on Jul 6, 2017 23:46:51 GMT
I was kinda excited (as much as I can be for MEA-MP) for the new stuff because I hoped that doofing some kett and yelling Jim as the new Batarian might actually save this game for me. I am still unlocking uncommon characters and guns.
And then I saw that my chances of unlocking....
Actually you know what? I can't be arsed to finish what I want to say because you all know what I'm gonna say.
And I don't think I can be arsed with this game now. I was right to go back to ME3. I can grind away, have fun and be rewarded for it with something (a manifest!) that is achievable this side of Christmas.
It's my strike teams I feel sorry for. They're gonna be stuck drinking tea and dunking biscuits in the vain hope of being deployed. Pff bioware. PFF!
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Post by vomder on Jul 6, 2017 23:52:15 GMT
Wait, what the fuck did Bioware do? I've been at work all day and see that people are mad as hell. There a complete list of stuff?
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Post by nanotm on Jul 6, 2017 23:53:55 GMT
i suspect they have been huffing paint thinners too much, the additions don't materially add to the game there actually more of a detraction, the veteran unlock bonuses could of been achieved simply through promotion once you toon hits lvl 20 and then for each time after that it gets prmoted it could gain an extra couple of points until after 10 promotoions you can have your guy with all skill points maxed out
for the guns using the mod slots in a similar fashion to how the sp game is played would of been the shit, but for some reason they just decided ot smash a shit load more hours into this game, there was already too much gear to buy and now this its kinda ridiculous especially since they added so much low rent stuff to it, who wants ot start opening silver packs again just so they don't loose slots in the higher level packs ....
its almost as if someone worked out the absolute best way to upset everyone then said "yeah lets do that" it'll really tweak them for slating the shitty wall eye graphics when we launched our untested poorly optimised game.....
oh and woot for the new extra lag in all things, that's so super dooper awesome I bet the'll have another patch in a week to fix them using the wrong build for this expansion....
don't get me wrong the fact new stuff has been added is great its just they went about it all wrong ...my kids gonna pitch a fit when he sees just how large the manifest is, he already hated the fact you cant max out on crap cards (like boosters and ammo packs, he spams gels and rockets too much to worry about that sort of thing though)
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Post by The Biotic Trebuchet on Jul 6, 2017 23:54:41 GMT
For fucks sake, Biover, WHERE'S THE GODDAMN LANCER?!, WHY DID YOU BRING THE REEGAR? Why? WHY!!! PS: Time to get back to ME3MP, Ladz.
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Post by Ares on Jul 6, 2017 23:57:03 GMT
Do I even wanna play this game anymore? So many bad decisions. Like wtf are they smoking...
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Post by PATPATPATlol on Jul 7, 2017 0:08:29 GMT
Just now spent all my fucking credits just to max out the new common character bonus bogus cards. Didn't even get to max out the uncommons, let alone the rares. I was saving up credits for the past few weeks to spend on reserves/arsenal packs to try to max out whatever rares I had left. Think I'm done with this game. Going back to Skyrim. Fuck this.
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Post by lennybusker on Jul 7, 2017 0:14:33 GMT
Wait, what the fuck did Bioware do? I've been at work all day and see that people are mad as hell. There a complete list of stuff? www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/let_me_explain_princess_bride.gifWeapons now have 3 new variants to unlock, from I to X, but you can't start getting them until the base weapon is at X. The new variants add different effects, and the extra effect is what gets beefed up from I to X. Siphon (health steal), Concussion (biotic splosion on weak point kills), and Bulwark (more DR while your friends are nearby). Characters now have twice as many cards to unlock, they go from I to XX now. The XI through XX cards unlock a Veteran Bonus, which gives 4% to Power Damage, Combo Damage, and Melee Damage.
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Post by derrame on Jul 7, 2017 0:30:51 GMT
well, i don't like to collect th same weapon over and over again, and to rank to x or xxxxx, or even card mods
but i like the new characters and maps, ad the balance changes
just don't hurry to collect/unlock everything
just play, patince, you will unlock everything eventually
is game, not a job or an obligation to unlock and max manifest out
just play the way you like
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Post by Kenny Bania on Jul 7, 2017 2:25:10 GMT
Just now spent all my fucking credits just to max out the new common character bonus bogus cards. Didn't even get to max out the uncommons, let alone the rares. I was saving up credits for the past few weeks to spend on reserves/arsenal packs to try to max out whatever rares I had left. Think I'm done with this game. Going back to Skyrim. Fuck this. I should do the same.
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Post by The Biotic Trebuchet on Jul 7, 2017 2:49:44 GMT
Just now spent all my fucking credits just to max out the new common character bonus bogus cards. Didn't even get to max out the uncommons, let alone the rares. I was saving up credits for the past few weeks to spend on reserves/arsenal packs to try to max out whatever rares I had left. Think I'm done with this game. Going back to Skyrim. Fuck this. I should go. FIFY
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Post by vomder on Jul 7, 2017 4:12:42 GMT
Wait, what the fuck did Bioware do? I've been at work all day and see that people are mad as hell. There a complete list of stuff? www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/let_me_explain_princess_bride.gifWeapons now have 3 new variants to unlock, from I to X, but you can't start getting them until the base weapon is at X. The new variants add different effects, and the extra effect is what gets beefed up from I to X. Siphon (health steal), Concussion (biotic splosion on weak point kills), and Bulwark (more DR while your friends are nearby). Characters now have twice as many cards to unlock, they go from I to XX now. The XI through XX cards unlock a Veteran Bonus, which gives 4% to Power Damage, Combo Damage, and Melee Damage. Thanks for explanation. Also yea these guys are insane.
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