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Post by kino on Jul 8, 2017 23:00:25 GMT
It's cool. I just noticed after I posted that 2 or 3 people had already said the same thing. I felt like a parrot there for a sec. I think vonuber hit the nail on the head, though. We know there's at least 3 million copies sold, maybe more. If anyone doesn't think EA isn't salivating at charging $20 or more for MEA DLC to that base, well, they don't know EA very well. I think one of the reasons peeps are so on edge over ME:A DLC is because of the game's "critical reception" and all of the Kotaku articles. I know for one that that shit spun me right up... which in hindsight was prolly their purpose...... I feel stupid now.  Spun everyone up and rightfully so. Shitty articles should catch shit. I was a little disappointed at the critical reception of ME:A but I could tell, especially after patch 1.06 was released, that it had gone from "this game has problems" to something else entirely. Some bizarre hate train. Frankly, I supported the hashtag idea not because I think it'll actually influence anything, but because it'll let the BW devs know how large the fanbase is. I think those poor bastards need that right now...well, and it's sure to let EA know there's a market for DLC. The thing is, the DLC has to be good. Really, really good. EA/BW can't afford for it to have the same tepid reception as the main game. |
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Post by colfoley on Jul 8, 2017 23:02:02 GMT
Yes.
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Post by ShadowAngel on Jul 8, 2017 23:06:48 GMT
The Cerberus Network wasnt a season pass...you got it free with the purchase of a new game. It was only if you bought game used that you had to pay for the DLC separately which is cool by me. ME3 didn't have a season pass either...From Ashes was a Collectors Edition bonus that you had to pay for separately if you just bought the base game. To me, that was crappy but still not a seasons pass I guess I misremembered shit. The whole situation is just outright odd though. I can't image an EA game not getting DLC. Even Dead Space 3 got a DLC. I imagine deadspace 3 was predicated to do well (and it didn't) and they probably already had the DLC in the making by launch that money was already out in it so why ditch it? May as well finish it at that point and give the last content of dead space away. Deadspace went to crap after the first if you ask me. im not surprised there's no season pass either, bioware really doesn't use them (exception being ME2 and only ME2 regardless what anyone says) plus EA is getting away from it in general cause most games don't make them worth the price. |
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Post by Andrew Waples on Jul 8, 2017 23:12:45 GMT
The thing is, the DLC has to be good. Really, really good. EA/BW can't afford for it to have the same tepid reception as the main game. Well the purpose of any dlc's intentions at least in my mind aren't really there to sell copies. They are to keep the community afloat from losing interest. If they happen to sell copies? Great, that's a positive side effect- I mean I never bought a game because a piece of dlc content was so highly raved by reviewers/fans. |
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Post by Andrew Lucas on Jul 8, 2017 23:16:49 GMT
The question to ask yourself is does EA like money? That may be the reason MEA won't get DLC, combined with the critical acclaim and reception. It's just not that simple. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2017 23:17:38 GMT
I think one of the reasons peeps are so on edge over ME:A DLC is because of the game's "critical reception" and all of the Kotaku articles. I know for one that that shit spun me right up... which in hindsight was prolly their purpose...... I feel stupid now. Spun everyone up and rightfully so. Shitty articles should catch shit. I was a little disappointed at the critical reception of ME:A but I could tell, especially after patch 1.06 was released, that it had gone from "this game has problems" to something else entirely. Some bizarre hate train. Frankly, I supported the hashtag idea not because I think it'll actually influence anything, but because it'll let the BW devs know how large the fanbase is. I think those poor bastards need that right now...well, and it's sure to let EA know there's a market for DLC. The thing is, the DLC has to be good. Really, really good. EA/BW can't afford for it to have the same tepid reception as the main game. Well said. Fact of the matter is, no matter how good a prospective DLC is, it would still draw the ire of those determined to hate ME:A & BW. *shrugs* Concise and to the point...  I guess I misremembered shit. The whole situation is just outright odd though. I can't image an EA game not getting DLC. Even Dead Space 3 got a DLC. I imagine deadspace 3 was predicated to do well (and it didn't) and they probably already had the DLC in the making by launch that money was already out in it so why ditch it? May as well finish it at that point and give the last content of dead space away. Deadspace went to crap after the first if you ask me. im not surprised there's no season pass either, bioware really doesn't use them (exception being ME2 and only ME2 regardless what anyone says) plus EA is getting away from it in general cause most games don't make them worth the price. One could say the same for ME:A tbh. Also, I really liked DS3. Made me hella sad to find out it got panned.  |
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Post by kino on Jul 8, 2017 23:19:07 GMT
The thing is, the DLC has to be good. Really, really good. EA/BW can't afford for it to have the same tepid reception as the main game. Well the purpose of any dlc's intentions at least in my mind aren't really there to sell copies. They are to keep the community afloat from losing interest. If they happen to sell copies? Great, that's a positive side effect- I mean I never bought a game because a piece of dlc content was so highly raved by reviewers/fans. My thought is that if they're sticking a price tag on it someone's looking to make a profit. All the major story DLC's I've seen from BioWare had price tags on them...except for maybe Citadel. I can't remember if that was free or not. |
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Post by colfoley on Jul 8, 2017 23:19:24 GMT
Spun everyone up and rightfully so. Shitty articles should catch shit. I was a little disappointed at the critical reception of ME:A but I could tell, especially after patch 1.06 was released, that it had gone from "this game has problems" to something else entirely. Some bizarre hate train. Frankly, I supported the hashtag idea not because I think it'll actually influence anything, but because it'll let the BW devs know how large the fanbase is. I think those poor bastards need that right now...well, and it's sure to let EA know there's a market for DLC. The thing is, the DLC has to be good. Really, really good. EA/BW can't afford for it to have the same tepid reception as the main game. Well said. Fact of the matter is, no matter how good a prospective DLC is, it would still draw the ire of those determined to hate ME:A & BW. *shrugs* Concise and to the point... I imagine deadspace 3 was predicated to do well (and it didn't) and they probably already had the DLC in the making by launch that money was already out in it so why ditch it? May as well finish it at that point and give the last content of dead space away. Deadspace went to crap after the first if you ask me. im not surprised there's no season pass either, bioware really doesn't use them (exception being ME2 and only ME2 regardless what anyone says) plus EA is getting away from it in general cause most games don't make them worth the price. One could say the same for ME:A tbh. Also, I really liked DS3. Made me hella sad to find out it got panned. usually not my shtick but its clear they had plans for dlc and sequels. |
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Post by colfoley on Jul 8, 2017 23:19:50 GMT
Well the purpose of any dlc's intentions at least in my mind aren't really there to sell copies. They are to keep the community afloat from losing interest. If they happen to sell copies? Great, that's a positive side effect- I mean I never bought a game because a piece of dlc content was so highly raved by reviewers/fans. My thought is that if they're sticking a price tag on it someone's looking to make a profit. All the major story DLC's I've seen from BioWare had price tag on them...except for maybe Citadel. I can't remember if that was free or not. it wasn't |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2017 23:20:15 GMT
Well said. Fact of the matter is, no matter how good a prospective DLC is, it would still draw the ire of those determined to hate ME:A & BW. *shrugs* Concise and to the point... One could say the same for ME:A tbh. Also, I really liked DS3. Made me hella sad to find out it got panned. usually not my shtick but its clear they had plans for dlc and sequels. Regarding Dead Space? |
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Post by kino on Jul 8, 2017 23:21:45 GMT
My thought is that if they're sticking a price tag on it someone's looking to make a profit. All the major story DLC's I've seen from BioWare had price tag on them...except for maybe Citadel. I can't remember if that was free or not. it wasn't Ah. That makes sense. It was a big ass piece of DLC. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2017 23:28:39 GMT
I think they would be mentally challenged to put the very clear teaser for quarian ark DLC in the epilogue right where it would be most fresh in people's minds if they did not plan it or know if they were going to do it. Talk about giving people a reason to hate you. That right there is just about as cruel as any game developer could be.
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Post by malgus on Jul 8, 2017 23:56:07 GMT
Does anyone think that maybe, just maybe, BioWare/EA never planned any SP DLC at all in the first place? I mean, there was no season pass, which is extremely odd for EA.Discuss. No Bioware game ever had any season pass, even if all of them had dlc at one point. |
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Post by suikoden on Jul 9, 2017 0:40:39 GMT
Yeah. I fucked up, lol. This shit still feels off to me. Something must be up. It's cool. I just noticed after I posted that 2 or 3 people had already said the same thing. I felt like a parrot there for a sec. I think vonuber hit the nail on the head, though. We know there's at least 3 million copies sold, maybe more. If anyone doesn't think EA isn't salivating at charging $20 or more for MEA DLC to that base, well, they don't know EA very well. You're assuming those buyers would all get the DLC... 40% of buyers purchased ME3's day 1 launch DLC - I'd have to think future DLC sales would have had a much lower attach rate. Either way, EA has all the data - they can see how may people are actively playing Andromeda so the only answer to the question is if/when DLC releases. |
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Post by suikoden on Jul 9, 2017 0:43:47 GMT
I think they would be mentally challenged to put the very clear teaser for quarian ark DLC in the epilogue right where it would be most fresh in people's minds if they did not plan it or know if they were going to do it. Talk about giving people a reason to hate you. That right there is just about as cruel as any game developer could be. They didn't know the game was going to get a 70% metacritic rating and mocked across social media like no other game ever has - I bet they were planning on releasing DLC, but Andromeda's reception might change that moving forwards. |
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Post by kino on Jul 9, 2017 0:48:07 GMT
It's cool. I just noticed after I posted that 2 or 3 people had already said the same thing. I felt like a parrot there for a sec. I think vonuber hit the nail on the head, though. We know there's at least 3 million copies sold, maybe more. If anyone doesn't think EA isn't salivating at charging $20 or more for MEA DLC to that base, well, they don't know EA very well. You're assuming those buyers would all get the DLC... 40% of buyers purchased ME3's day 1 launch DLC - I'd have to think future DLC sales would have had a much lower attach rate. Either way, EA has all the data - they can see how may people are actively playing Andromeda so the only answer to the question is if/when DLC releases. Depends on which version of the ME3 package you bought. Mine came with the DLC. I still paid for it, but it installed alongside the game so if they're listing numbers of people who bought From Ashes as a separate package they may not include people who bought the Digital Deluxe. Or they may. Who knows? I think if they can clear 1 million units on a 15 to 20 hour DLC they'd consider that worth the investment, depending on the price point they attach to the DLC which would probably fall into the $15 to $20 range. |
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Post by N7 on Jul 9, 2017 0:51:22 GMT
I think they would be mentally challenged to put the very clear teaser for quarian ark DLC in the epilogue right where it would be most fresh in people's minds if they did not plan it or know if they were going to do it. Talk about giving people a reason to hate you. That right there is just about as cruel as any game developer could be. They didn't know the game was going to get a 70% metacritic rating and mocked across social media like no other game ever has - I bet they were planning on releasing DLC, but Andromeda's reception might change that moving forwards.  and ...... your Account! |
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jul 9, 2017 0:51:31 GMT
The question to ask yourself is does EA like money? I think the ansew r t othat one is a certain yes.  |
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jul 9, 2017 0:58:59 GMT
Well the purpose of any dlc's intentions at least in my mind aren't really there to sell copies. They are to keep the community afloat from losing interest. If they happen to sell copies? Great, that's a positive side effect- I mean I never bought a game because a piece of dlc content was so highly raved by reviewers/fans. My thought is that if they're sticking a price tag on it someone's looking to make a profit. All the major story DLC's I've seen from BioWare had price tags on them...except for maybe Citadel. I can't remember if that was free or not. no Citadel we had to pay for it was the Extended Cut I believe that was free. |
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Post by suikoden on Jul 9, 2017 0:59:40 GMT
They didn't know the game was going to get a 70% metacritic rating and mocked across social media like no other game ever has - I bet they were planning on releasing DLC, but Andromeda's reception might change that moving forwards. |
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Post by Andrew Waples on Jul 9, 2017 1:01:24 GMT
They didn't know the game was going to get a 70% metacritic rating and mocked across social media like no other game ever has - I bet they were planning on releasing DLC, but Andromeda's reception might change that moving forwards. Well.. when I started scrolling I didn't know what to except... well that escalated quickly. |
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on Jul 9, 2017 1:07:32 GMT
The Cerberus Network wasnt a season pass...you got it free with the purchase of a new game. It was only if you bought game used that you had to pay for the DLC separately which is cool by me. ME3 didn't have a season pass either...From Ashes was a Collectors Edition bonus that you had to pay for separately if you just bought the base game. To me, that was crappy but still not a seasons pass Wasn't that a response to GameStop? And is there ever been a time that BioWare didn't have DLC? |
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