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Post by SwobyJ on Jul 10, 2017 19:15:24 GMT
It's EA. The very first board meeting where the lead developers pitched the game, the first question EA execs asked them was "so how much DLC can we make for this". The question isn't whether it was planned in the first place, the question is how have those plans changed since the game was released. Indeed. It could be as little as all DLC plans scrapped (but indeed - SCRAPPED, not unintended), or a much as still 3-4 DLC just given more time for polish, or anywhere in between. Personally I'm at the point where I dunno at all about 2-4 DLC but I would be surprised and perhaps in a way shocked if the Quarian Ark doesn't happen. I think this is a very reasonable position to take based on the actual information, suggestions, and veracity (both existing and the lack of it) of rumors.
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Post by SofNascimento on Jul 10, 2017 19:52:13 GMT
If that is the case, we will certainly see some 3 major DLCs for Andromeda, just like ME2, ME3 and Inquisition and I'll gladly say I was wrong about EA's attitude towards Andromeda.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2017 21:21:09 GMT
I just want to ask one question:
If tabloid gaming 'journalists' hadn't gone wild with their no DLC stories and focused all their attention on that yet to be proven story would this even be a discussion we would be having? From my perspective, all of this concern over DLC not coming is because of one or two specific journalists that created this story, put it out there saying they had unnamed sources and then other outlets picked it up not even looking for their own sources (or perhaps looking and failing to find them because the story isn't true and people cannot say either way due to NDAs). The game made very specific clear reference to a DLC without actually stating it was DLC but saying we would have to wait. Within the game, we are told we are going to have to be patient and wait.
I feel like all of this concern is generated because people believe sources that have nothing to stand on but their word, their previous reputation (which has been both accurate and inaccurate in the past) and their magical unnamed sources. To my recollection, only two questionably reputable journalists actually said they have sources but both are conveniently unnamed. We also have the hoax sinclair network who has now vanished after propagating these falsehoods.
I don't think anyone would be concerned about this or doubt we were getting DLC if it weren't for the work of a few journalists who say they have sources. The game itself tells us about the quarian ark and that we will have to wait patiently. Go into your epilogues and listen again. It's like it is coming straight from BW's mouth and people are doubting it because of a few random stories by maybe two people.
I am more inclined to think that they are polishing the heck out of their DLC after the beating they took with the game itself and therefore it might take more time. If they release DLC that looks a lot better and can't be attacked for its lack of polish, that puts them in a much better light. Also shows lesson learned.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2017 21:43:11 GMT
I just want to ask one question: If tabloid gaming 'journalists' hadn't gone wild with their no DLC stories and focused all their attention on that yet to be proven story would this even be a discussion we would be having? From my perspective, all of this concern over DLC not coming is because of one or two specific journalists that created this story, put it out there saying they had unnamed sources and then other outlets picked it up not even looking for their own sources (or perhaps looking and failing to find them because the story isn't true and people cannot say either way due to NDAs). The game made very specific clear reference to a DLC without actually stating it was DLC but saying we would have to wait. Within the game, we are told we are going to have to be patient and wait. I feel like all of this concern is generated because people believe sources that have nothing to stand on but their word, their previous reputation (which has been both accurate and inaccurate in the past) and their magical unnamed sources. To my recollection, only two questionably reputable journalists actually said they have sources but both are conveniently unnamed. We also have the hoax sinclair network who has now vanished after propagating these falsehoods. I don't think anyone would be concerned about this or doubt we were getting DLC if it weren't for the work of a few journalists who say they have sources. The game itself tells us about the quarian ark and that we will have to wait patiently. Go into your epilogues and listen again. It's like it is coming straight from BW's mouth and people are doubting it because of a few random stories by maybe two people. I am more inclined to think that they are polishing the heck out of their DLC after the beating they took with the game itself and therefore it might take more time. If they release DLC that looks a lot better and can't be attacked for its lack of polish, that puts them in a much better light. Also shows lesson learned. I completely agree. And let ´ s not forget about fake Twitter account, used to harass devs and spit nonsense about BW games: twitter.com/skepticgamer1Whoever is running that account needs professional help in my opinion.
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Post by SofNascimento on Jul 10, 2017 22:45:49 GMT
Time will be the proof, one way or the other.
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Post by SwobyJ on Jul 10, 2017 23:40:54 GMT
I just want to ask one question: If tabloid gaming 'journalists' hadn't gone wild with their no DLC stories and focused all their attention on that yet to be proven story would this even be a discussion we would be having? From my perspective, all of this concern over DLC not coming is because of one or two specific journalists that created this story, put it out there saying they had unnamed sources and then other outlets picked it up not even looking for their own sources (or perhaps looking and failing to find them because the story isn't true and people cannot say either way due to NDAs). The game made very specific clear reference to a DLC without actually stating it was DLC but saying we would have to wait. Within the game, we are told we are going to have to be patient and wait. I feel like all of this concern is generated because people believe sources that have nothing to stand on but their word, their previous reputation (which has been both accurate and inaccurate in the past) and their magical unnamed sources. To my recollection, only two questionably reputable journalists actually said they have sources but both are conveniently unnamed. We also have the hoax sinclair network who has now vanished after propagating these falsehoods. I don't think anyone would be concerned about this or doubt we were getting DLC if it weren't for the work of a few journalists who say they have sources. The game itself tells us about the quarian ark and that we will have to wait patiently. Go into your epilogues and listen again. It's like it is coming straight from BW's mouth and people are doubting it because of a few random stories by maybe two people. I am more inclined to think that they are polishing the heck out of their DLC after the beating they took with the game itself and therefore it might take more time. If they release DLC that looks a lot better and can't be attacked for its lack of polish, that puts them in a much better light. Also shows lesson learned. Me too. I think it'll/it'd be as polished as the updated scenes (1.09) or better. And probably focus on a tight experience. Though hopefully not too tight - as in short and not much to experience. On thing I disliked about ME3 DLC is that they were a little too short (a lot in total, but only in total), for a little too much price. A little. I can now see that they can make a better working product. Just a damn shame that they didn't wait a few more months, or ideally several (late 2017; its not like Anthem is releasing this year).
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Post by SwobyJ on Jul 10, 2017 23:41:34 GMT
Time will be the proof, one way or the other. I don't usually go here - but that's a really, really silly response to that questioning.
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Post by abaris on Jul 11, 2017 0:02:30 GMT
I just want to ask one question: If tabloid gaming 'journalists' hadn't gone wild with their no DLC stories and focused all their attention on that yet to be proven story would this even be a discussion we would be having? Well, yes. I remember when Molyneux published the Movies back in 2006. The game got the same mixed recception as this one. Molyneux being the person he is, promised the sun and the moon and delivered a bland soup. They published one DLC and called it quits at that. But people still speculated and petitioned to get more DLCs.
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Post by Monica21 on Jul 11, 2017 0:11:48 GMT
I just want to ask one question: If tabloid gaming 'journalists' hadn't gone wild with their no DLC stories and focused all their attention on that yet to be proven story would this even be a discussion we would be having? I'm going to put on my tinfoil hat and say that if I wanted to gauge interest in a DLC, I'd let someone leak that it wasn't going to happen. If the response is a resounding "meh" then I'd put my resources elsewhere. If a group started a hashtag campaign however, and started replying to every post on Twitter with said hashtag, I'd seriously consider going ahead with that DLC.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2017 0:23:03 GMT
I just want to ask one question: If tabloid gaming 'journalists' hadn't gone wild with their no DLC stories and focused all their attention on that yet to be proven story would this even be a discussion we would be having? I'm going to put on my tinfoil hate and say that if I wanted to gauge interest in a DLC, I'd let someone leak that it wasn't going to happen. If the response is a resounding "meh" then I'd put my resources elsewhere. If a group started a hashtag campaign however, and started replying to every post on Twitter with said hashtag, I'd seriously consider going ahead with that DLC. I would agree with that except they left us the quarian ark DLC hint in the game. And it's not just a hint. The girl keeps calling you when you walk by. It's an outright badger/nag! I do not believe for one minute that quarian ark DLC was ever not going to happen. I believe it's a sure thing. I also believe that everyone that worked on this game was aware that things could have gone much better and I think they hoped it would all be okay, that people's love for ME would overshadow all. And I think the reception it got blindsided them. I don't think they realized that much hate could be directed at any game or maybe any ME game. Or maybe they did but I think they thought how they made this one would be a solid win. When it was not a solid win, that blindsided them and they scrambled to do more fixing and patching than planned. I don't think they expected to have to do the level of polish they did now. I feel like I know we are getting quarian DLC but nobody else knows it except those working on the game.
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Post by SofNascimento on Jul 11, 2017 1:10:53 GMT
Time will be the proof, one way or the other. I don't usually go here - but that's a really, really silly response to that questioning. It's the only proof people will accept. When I told people Andromeda was having a troubled development because of its marketing, a lot of people thought I was wrong. I couldn't prove it then, but now I dare say very few will question that fact. There is strong evidence that Andromeda was a disappointment to EA, but unless a year passes and no or just one DLC is released, people will still argue that.
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Post by Monica21 on Jul 11, 2017 2:50:05 GMT
I would agree with that except they left us the quarian ark DLC hint in the game. And it's not just a hint. The girl keeps calling you when you walk by. It's an outright badger/nag! I do not believe for one minute that quarian ark DLC was ever not going to happen. I believe it's a sure thing. I also believe that everyone that worked on this game was aware that things could have gone much better and I think they hoped it would all be okay, that people's love for ME would overshadow all. And I think the reception it got blindsided them. I don't think they realized that much hate could be directed at any game or maybe any ME game. Or maybe they did but I think they thought how they made this one would be a solid win. When it was not a solid win, that blindsided them and they scrambled to do more fixing and patching than planned. I don't think they expected to have to do the level of polish they did now. I feel like I know we are getting quarian DLC but nobody else knows it except those working on the game. I think the initial reaction to Andromeda had to have given the suits at EA pause. It wouldn't surprise me if yes, it was planned, and that line was the hook for it, but that there are or were questions as to whether to proceed. My point was more a way to gauge if it was worth going ahead, based on fan reaction if reports came out that it wasn't going to get a DLC. I'm still not on board with it being a sure thing, but I'll honestly be surprised if we don't get a DLC, if for no other reason than DLCs stay at full price always. It's easy money for EA, especially if it's cut content and most of the assets are in place.
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Post by brandoftime on Jul 11, 2017 14:33:37 GMT
I remember that Dishonored 2 was released with bad technical issues last year that partially were the reason why sales were not so good. But - they announced instead of just DLC a huge expansion for the title to come out almost a year since the game launched. I had begun to doubt DLC for that game but then they pleasantly surprised us
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2017 18:43:42 GMT
I remember that Dishonored 2 was released with bad technical issues last year that partially were the reason why sales were not so good. But - they announced instead of just DLC a huge expansion for the title to come out almost a year since the game launched. I had begun to doubt DLC for that game but then they pleasantly surprised us Interesting... I did not know this.
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