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Post by suikoden on Jul 11, 2017 4:12:09 GMT
1) I've played all I need to play of Andromeda. You haven't played TW3. 2) Actually this is an attack - time for a ban methinks. You gotta simmer down. Where did he insult you? "Suikoden doesn't have a sense of humor or much of a life for that matter." "...you're a miserable POS then play the victim card all the damn time because someone doesn't agree with moronic points." "...a useless fucking troll like you." "...wallow in hate and rage that you do. " "And please spare me "Everybody is mean to me" or "You don't understand me" or "I'm just joking" defenses all of which is 100% bullshit with you." "...you are just a sad pathetic troll." "Angry hardcore gamer trolls like suikoden only exist to try and steal joy away from others, because they are miserable people." "In all seriousness suikoden you're starting to act like a special little snowflake." "...fuck off." Take your pick. I'll forward these to SoupNazi.
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Post by smilesja on Jul 11, 2017 4:16:26 GMT
"Suikoden doesn't have a sense of humor or much of a life for that matter." "...you're a miserable POS then play the victim card all the damn time because someone doesn't agree with moronic points." "...a useless fucking troll like you." "...wallow in hate and rage that you do. " "And please spare me "Everybody is mean to me" or "You don't understand me" or "I'm just joking" defenses all of which is 100% bullshit with you." "...you are just a sad pathetic troll." "Angry hardcore gamer trolls like suikoden only exist to try and steal joy away from others, because they are miserable people." "In all seriousness suikoden you're starting to act like a special little snowflake." "...fuck off." Take your pick. I'll forward these to SoupNazi. You mean Sofa Jockey. Insulting the mods isn't going to win you any favors.
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Post by suikoden on Jul 11, 2017 4:31:58 GMT
"Suikoden doesn't have a sense of humor or much of a life for that matter." "...you're a miserable POS then play the victim card all the damn time because someone doesn't agree with moronic points." "...a useless fucking troll like you." "...wallow in hate and rage that you do. " "And please spare me "Everybody is mean to me" or "You don't understand me" or "I'm just joking" defenses all of which is 100% bullshit with you." "...you are just a sad pathetic troll." "Angry hardcore gamer trolls like suikoden only exist to try and steal joy away from others, because they are miserable people." "In all seriousness suikoden you're starting to act like a special little snowflake." "...fuck off." Take your pick. I'll forward these to SoupNazi. You mean Sofa Jockey. Insulting the mods isn't going to win you any favors. Get with the times - he updated his name to SoupNazi - although maybe he's SofaJockey again. It's not an insult, it's from Seinfeld. Classy of you to "like" most of those posts though.
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Post by Monica21 on Jul 11, 2017 4:42:12 GMT
"Suikoden doesn't have a sense of humor or much of a life for that matter." "...you're a miserable POS then play the victim card all the damn time because someone doesn't agree with moronic points." "...a useless fucking troll like you." "...wallow in hate and rage that you do. " "And please spare me "Everybody is mean to me" or "You don't understand me" or "I'm just joking" defenses all of which is 100% bullshit with you." "...you are just a sad pathetic troll." "Angry hardcore gamer trolls like suikoden only exist to try and steal joy away from others, because they are miserable people." "In all seriousness suikoden you're starting to act like a special little snowflake." "...fuck off." Take your pick. I'll forward these to SoupNazi. Why can't you just hit Report Post?
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Post by suikoden on Jul 11, 2017 4:44:43 GMT
"Suikoden doesn't have a sense of humor or much of a life for that matter." "...you're a miserable POS then play the victim card all the damn time because someone doesn't agree with moronic points." "...a useless fucking troll like you." "...wallow in hate and rage that you do. " "And please spare me "Everybody is mean to me" or "You don't understand me" or "I'm just joking" defenses all of which is 100% bullshit with you." "...you are just a sad pathetic troll." "Angry hardcore gamer trolls like suikoden only exist to try and steal joy away from others, because they are miserable people." "In all seriousness suikoden you're starting to act like a special little snowflake." "...fuck off." Take your pick. I'll forward these to SoupNazi. Why can't you just hit Report Post? ...I didn't know that was an available option till now.
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Post by colfoley on Jul 11, 2017 4:46:37 GMT
THIS ONE HUNDRED TIMES! His script was probably the same level of nonsense than Synthesis ending. At least in the EC i could destroy the Reapers and let the galaxy move on without their guiding tentacles. Ironically enough though Synthesis is probably the biggest reason we are in Andromeda. If it were just control/ destroy the writers likely could have worked around it. But Synthesis literally changed the meaning of life.
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Post by smilesja on Jul 11, 2017 4:47:56 GMT
You mean Sofa Jockey. Insulting the mods isn't going to win you any favors. Get with the times - he updated his name to SoupNazi - although maybe he's SofaJockey again. It's not an insult, it's from Seinfeld. Classy of you to "like" most of those posts though. When I checked his name was the same. Seriously change your attitude.
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Post by maximusarael020 on Jul 11, 2017 4:51:10 GMT
Guys, please stop derailing the thread. Report to the mods, DAM each other, meet at dawn with pistols, whatever, but I hate to see threads locked down because several people can't help but bicker.
Anyway, BACK ON TOPIC...
I really think that MEA's best writing comes in the final act. The whole finale was incredible to me. It had the best pacing and everything about it felt good to me. I wish you could go back and explore Meridian after you complete that mission, though.
I understand why some people might take issue with the lighter tone of the game, but others took issue with the darker tone of ME3. That's just opinion and preference, I think.
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Post by Monica21 on Jul 11, 2017 4:51:18 GMT
...I didn't know that was an available option till now. Oh,yeah. I mean, far be it for me to get in the middle of a good forum brawl, but my guess is the notification works different than a PM. In addition, all the mods see it instead if just one, so generally a quicker resolution.
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Post by suikoden on Jul 11, 2017 4:52:09 GMT
Get with the times - he updated his name to SoupNazi - although maybe he's SofaJockey again. It's not an insult, it's from Seinfeld. Classy of you to "like" most of those posts though. When I checked his name was the same. Seriously change your attitude. He changed his name probably like a week ago. I don't know when he changed it back. Seriously - stop with the attacks. Message him yourself if you want to hear it from him.
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Post by suikoden on Jul 11, 2017 4:53:23 GMT
Guys, please stop derailing the thread. Report to the mods, DAM each other, meet at dawn with pistols, whatever, but I hate to see threads locked down because several people can't help but bicker. Anyway, BACK ON TOPIC... I really think that MEA's best writing comes in the final act. The whole finale was incredible to me. It had the best pacing and everything about it felt good to me. I wish you could go back and explore Meridian after you complete that mission, though. I understand why some people might take issue with the lighter tone of the game, but others took issue with the darker tone of ME3. That's just opinion and preference, I think. Boils down to one's sense of humor - it makes the writing either hit or miss it seems.
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Post by maximusarael020 on Jul 11, 2017 4:53:28 GMT
THIS ONE HUNDRED TIMES! His script was probably the same level of nonsense than Synthesis ending. At least in the EC i could destroy the Reapers and let the galaxy move on without their guiding tentacles. Ironically enough though Synthesis is probably the biggest reason we are in Andromeda. If it were just control/ destroy the writers likely could have worked around it. But Synthesis literally changed the meaning of life. That is the second biggest obstacle, over "Refuse", which I still count as an ending. I actually never thought the endings were bad. I did only play after the EC came out.
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Post by colfoley on Jul 11, 2017 4:55:02 GMT
Ironically enough though Synthesis is probably the biggest reason we are in Andromeda. If it were just control/ destroy the writers likely could have worked around it. But Synthesis literally changed the meaning of life. That is the second biggest obstacle, over "Refuse", which I still count as an ending. I actually never thought the endings were bad. I did only play after the EC came out. The EC really did fix the ending, but Synthes still really personally annoys me.
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Post by smilesja on Jul 11, 2017 4:57:31 GMT
When I checked his name was the same. Seriously change your attitude. He changed his name probably like a week ago. I don't know when he changed it back. Seriously - stop with the attacks. Message him yourself if you want to hear it from him. Attack? Don't make me laugh.
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Post by maximusarael020 on Jul 11, 2017 4:58:48 GMT
That is the second biggest obstacle, over "Refuse", which I still count as an ending. I actually never thought the endings were bad. I did only play after the EC came out. The EC really did fix the ending, but Synthes still really personally annoys me. I always thought that if they did continue ME in the MW, they might do it like Deus Ex did. Correct me if I'm wrong, but at the end of second to last game there was a big choice at the end that split into very different endings. For the newest game (Mankind Divided?) I think they started the game before that decision and had that decision never occur, so then no need to make one canon or anything like that. I though they could do that with ME where Shep never reaches the beam but gets picked up by the Normandy and they have to find a different way to defeat the Reapers.
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Post by colfoley on Jul 11, 2017 4:59:42 GMT
The EC really did fix the ending, but Synthes still really personally annoys me. I always thought that if they did continue ME in the MW, they might do it like Deus Ex did. Correct me if I'm wrong, but at the end of second to last game there was a big choice at the end that split into very different endings. For the newest game (Mankind Divided?) I think they started the game before that decision and had that decision never occur, so then no need to make one canon or anything like that. I though they could do that with ME where Shep never reaches the beam but gets picked up by the Normandy and they have to find a different way to defeat the Reapers. Never played them but sounds interesting.
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Post by Monica21 on Jul 11, 2017 5:00:08 GMT
I think the earlier admonition to stay on topic was well and timely stated, so how about we do that?
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Post by suikoden on Jul 11, 2017 5:00:17 GMT
He changed his name probably like a week ago. I don't know when he changed it back. Seriously - stop with the attacks. Message him yourself if you want to hear it from him. Attack? Don't make me laugh. Fine then - seriously, change your attitude. Or at least admit when you're 100% wrong.
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Post by colfoley on Jul 11, 2017 5:02:47 GMT
I think the earlier admonition to stay on topic was well and timely stated, so how about we do that? No adomination neccessary if I can drag a thread forcebly off topic I can drag it back on again. So how about those Red Sox? (kidding, kidding)
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Post by smilesja on Jul 11, 2017 5:07:48 GMT
Sigh, I should stay on topic. Arguing with him Is not doing this thread any favors. So yeah I do agree with colfoley.
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Post by Draining Dragon on Jul 11, 2017 5:13:12 GMT
Cool it, folks. Let's get back on topic and steer away from the personal attacks. If you see any further posts which you think might break the rules, please use the report feature.
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Post by outlaw1109 on Jul 11, 2017 5:47:15 GMT
drews ending didn't sound much better tbh. Refresh my memory wasn't Drew's endings were something like Shepard had to choose between basically turning the entire human race into some kind of a Super Reaper that could stop dark energy from destroy the galaxy or destroying all the Reapers and then having the humans lead the other races to stop dark energy from destroying the galaxy? IMHO that doesn't sound any better than the endings to ME3. I have no idea where you got that from. He said, at one point, he was going to have Shepard be an alien and not know it or involve the dark energy stuff from ME2...he bounced around a lot of ideas because he quit in the middle of ME2. He actually hadn't written anything and if you pay attention to how he talks about these things, he didn't take them very seriously...
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Post by dm04 on Jul 11, 2017 8:11:31 GMT
Hm, you justify your "andromeda is well written" on some revelation and a ton of but moments? Whats with the stuff that ties this revelations and buts, the big picture, and the small? You are right in everything you say BUT then I think about the extremely light tone in this extremely serious and dangerous situation and it all goes through the window. Two things. 1. In like 99% of situations you control the tone of your Ryder and the game. Sure you cannot control the tone of the other characters but most people complain about Ryder's 'tone' or the joking manner, when you are perfectly capable of NOT choosing the casual dialogue. Or the emotional. The amount of times when Ryder can exhibit cool headed professionalism may actually exceed the times when he can be some Jack O'Neill clone. And, as I have said playing a Logical/ Professional with a dash of Casual Ryder reminded me very much of my experiences with my paragrade Fem Shepard in the trilogy. Someone who was military, mission, and duty first...yet someone who could still relax with their crew. 2. The 'tone' can come down to nothing but personal taste. My three favorite shows of all time are Stargate SG-1, Farscape, and Game of Thrones...well three of my favorite shows...SG-1 is light hearted high adventure (very similar to MEA actually), Game of Thrones is a borderline grim dark...almost entirely humorless...world. Farscape is a show that can get dark and serious but also be uproriously humorous at the drop of the hat. Seriously, watch the episode 'Won't Get fooled again'. And since I can like light toned pieces of entertainment, dark toned pieces of entertainment, and entertainment that can do both, I like Andromeda. If Andromeda's tone/ bathos ain't for you...its just not for you...and actually Suikoden made this very point. Unfortunate it is not just Ryder, but everyone and while we can control Ryder to some degree, we can not control everyone else. And while it would be ok for one person to be like (ie Liam, who is over the top lighthearted and unserious), it is not when like everyone is so. Talking about Liam, he takes the "light" to a whole new level, and while this can be a way how to deal with stress and dire situations, it is not ok to be always that way. Talking about Stargate SG-1, and not just that, it was Atlantis as well, that shows show us how it is well done. Both ONeil and Shepard are not dead-serious, no matter the situations, however, they are very serious when the situation requires it, and, the rest of their team isnt full of Liams. MEA tries to be so but ultimately fails at it. I gues less would be more here. Back to Ryder... I tried to have a more serious Ryder, in the end... lets just not talk about emotinal, that is so often out of place... but logical... well I am a logical person myself and Ryders comes around more like a smart-alec rather then logical, and the profesional Ryder is more often then not a foolhearted jerk, anything but profesional.
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Post by themikefest on Jul 11, 2017 11:08:08 GMT
The EC really did fix the ending, but Synthes still really personally annoys me. For me, the best thing the extended cut fixed was the flashbacks as Shepard is choosing an ending
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Post by SwobyJ on Jul 11, 2017 14:02:55 GMT
I will say this, one of the key weaknesses I find in the writing of the game is the way terminology is handled in small details. Examples: words like Heleus, Kett, Scourge. The asari captain on the Lucy-whatever says "kett" when they couldn't have learned that word yet. The kett use the word scourge, even though it was a term the Nexus yokels thought up. The angara don't have their own word for the cluster and just use Heleus and even Andromeda. I always found those little things bothersome. Guesses: -Nexus and Leusinia learn kett from kett. Neither are so apart from the kett as to not be able to translate and share the information of language. -Kett 'Scourge' is a translation of our Scourge. They'd have another name for it that we translate to us. -Angara have more local perspective. Like with all tech (I could bring up several examples), they may have the capacity to reach for high levels of it, but they have been kept down by circumstance and through that, culture. *Cough* analogue for Africa.
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