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Post by therevanchist25 on Jul 11, 2017 2:23:58 GMT
I too typically found several of the Renegade interrupts hilarious. maybe that says something about me, I don't know. For example, this is probably one of the funniest things I've ever seen in a game. I couldn't breath the first time I saw it.
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Post by warrior on Jul 11, 2017 2:27:59 GMT
I too typically found several of the Renegade interrupts hilarious. maybe that says something about me, I don't know. For example, this is probably one of the funniest things I've ever seen in a game. I couldn't breath the first time I saw it. Yes some of the Ren interrupts are hilarious. I love and laugh at this part and the part where you push the guy out the window. If you don't know that the reporter punch is coming, that one is also really funny, especially with the line that comes with it. I didn't know the first time I played it. But yeah, this one I think I laughed most at. Probably says something about me too.
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Post by Trilobite Derby on Jul 11, 2017 2:32:44 GMT
I'm a Groucho Marx/Terry Prachett girl when it comes to things that made me laugh so hard my sides hurt.
Some 'funny' moments in Andromeda are funnier than others. A few jokes didn't work for me (Especially some of the ones where casual Ryder is trying so hard to be a badass at the kett UGH). I ... actually found Liam hilarious, though.
Humor, even more than good writing in the other thread, is super individual.
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Post by therevanchist25 on Jul 11, 2017 2:34:02 GMT
Another example of ultra cheese humor done correctly imo, was Blasto: Partners in Crime. Aka Lethal Weapon. It was a Easter Egg and totally easy to miss, it also happens to be an In Universe campy cliche movie franchise.
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Post by Trilobite Derby on Jul 11, 2017 2:37:33 GMT
Another example of ultra cheese humor done correctly imo, was Blasto: Partners in Crime. Aka Lethal Weapon. It was a Easter Egg and totally easy to miss, it also happens to be an In Universe campy cliche movie franchise. Okay, but I literally cringe at Javik's mission in the Citadel DLC. So dumb that it just doesn't work for me. Even though I adore Javik.
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Post by therevanchist25 on Jul 11, 2017 2:42:08 GMT
Another example of ultra cheese humor done correctly imo, was Blasto: Partners in Crime. Aka Lethal Weapon. It was a Easter Egg and totally easy to miss, it also happens to be an In Universe campy cliche movie franchise. Okay, but I literally cringe at Javik's mission in the Citadel DLC. So dumb that it just doesn't work for me. Even though I adore Javik. Yes, bringing the joke back the second time for Citadel, was not good. As I said earlier, most of Citadel's humor is just...too much for me, normally. The ONLY thing I would actually keep, is the whole Traynor's Toothbrush joke when they break into Normandy. But thats me.
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Post by ioannisdenton on Jul 11, 2017 8:37:17 GMT
hyperbole?? not as many jokes. i was certainly was not laughing as much as you imply That's because most of the jokes aren't funny - that's part of the problem... humour is really hard to pull off to the point where everyone agrees it's funny or not - they should have realized how divisive attempting to shoehorn it in everywhere would be. you have not played the game. Just read posts and learn before spouting arrogance, lies and nonsense. Yes i am aggressive. Read and learn. Also go out, leave this place, Shoo! shoo!
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Post by ClarkKent on Jul 11, 2017 9:09:17 GMT
You saw hints of this in DAI(though Dragon Age has always been more quippy than ME). I never felt tense in that game because the game was set on making fun of everything.
Imagine the Sovereign scene done in a current Bioware game. I bet we'd have forced quips between every line.
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Post by outlaw1109 on Jul 11, 2017 9:17:37 GMT
Maybe there's another piece to it...
How about being optionally humorous.
Like in the OT where you could optionally be a complete a-hole to everyone except Kirrahe.
Or...*grits teeth* like in DA2 where you had altruistic Hawke, sarcastic Hawke and and a-hole Hawke.
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Post by abaris on Jul 11, 2017 10:25:44 GMT
Since I just played DAII for a bit, I stumbled over a remark that made me choke on my coffee. Sidequest Magistrates orders with the serial killer. The elf you meet there says something about "pretty children" and Hawke can reply: "Look at these guards. Do you think either of them has to worry about pretty children."
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Post by suikoden on Jul 11, 2017 15:19:26 GMT
That's because most of the jokes aren't funny - that's part of the problem... humour is really hard to pull off to the point where everyone agrees it's funny or not - they should have realized how divisive attempting to shoehorn it in everywhere would be. you have not played the game. Just read posts and learn before spouting arrogance, lies and nonsense. Yes i am aggressive. Read and learn. Also go out, leave this place, Shoo! shoo! I've played enough of it to know what it's like.
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Post by abaris on Jul 11, 2017 15:30:48 GMT
Yes, bringing the joke back the second time for Citadel, was not good. As I said earlier, most of Citadel's humor is just...too much for me, normally. The ONLY thing I would actually keep, is the whole Traynor's Toothbrush joke when they break into Normandy. But thats me. For me it was a mixed bag. At some jokes I cringed, others, such as Grunt having a night out, I liked. But it was a DLC, not a whole game. It also fit the situation to make light of things.
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Post by maximusarael020 on Jul 11, 2017 15:39:08 GMT
you have not played the game. Just read posts and learn before spouting arrogance, lies and nonsense. Yes i am aggressive. Read and learn. Also go out, leave this place, Shoo! shoo! I've played enough of it to know what it's like. Well, Jason, I hope you remember that when people read the first 4 pages of your "book" and say "Wow, these first several pages aren't very good. I bet the rest of the book is just like this, so I'll tell everyone the book is awful based on 5% of printed work."
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Post by smilesja on Jul 11, 2017 15:57:39 GMT
you have not played the game. Just read posts and learn before spouting arrogance, lies and nonsense. Yes i am aggressive. Read and learn. Also go out, leave this place, Shoo! shoo! I've played enough of it to know what it's like. 10 hours isn't enough. It'll be like reading the first few chapters of your book and already declaring it thrash.
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Post by ioannisdenton on Jul 11, 2017 16:06:50 GMT
you have not played the game. Just read posts and learn before spouting arrogance, lies and nonsense. Yes i am aggressive. Read and learn. Also go out, leave this place, Shoo! shoo! I've played enough of it to know what it's like. Shoo! Shoo! Go away. leave! Go pester other games you did not play.
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Post by suikoden on Jul 11, 2017 16:56:20 GMT
I've played enough of it to know what it's like. Well, Jason, I hope you remember that when people read the first 4 pages of your "book" and say "Wow, these first several pages aren't very good. I bet the rest of the book is just like this, so I'll tell everyone the book is awful based on 5% of printed work." That's fine - if someone gives me something to eat and it's rotten, I'm not going to keep eating it.
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Post by ShadowAngel on Jul 11, 2017 17:13:37 GMT
Well, Jason, I hope you remember that when people read the first 4 pages of your "book" and say "Wow, these first several pages aren't very good. I bet the rest of the book is just like this, so I'll tell everyone the book is awful based on 5% of printed work." That's fine - if someone gives me something to eat and it's rotten, I'm not going to keep eating it. First impression means little to people these days. Instead it's better to play it to 100% just to come to the same conclusion you would've 50 hours ago.
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Post by smilesja on Jul 11, 2017 17:22:24 GMT
That's fine - if someone gives me something to eat and it's rotten, I'm not going to keep eating it. First impression means little to people these days. Instead it's better to play it to 100% just to come to the same conclusion you would've 50 hours ago. But your opinon is more flesh out and detailed.
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Post by suikoden on Jul 11, 2017 17:29:04 GMT
First impression means little to people these days. Instead it's better to play it to 100% just to come to the same conclusion you would've 50 hours ago. But your opinon is more flesh out and detailed. If part of it is rotten I don't need to keep eating. That bad taste isn't leaving my mouth. This isn't hard to understand - think of something you really don't like, did you spend 100 hours trying to flesh out your opinion on why you dont like it? Does that not sound like an absurd way to live your life?
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Post by maximusarael020 on Jul 11, 2017 17:49:48 GMT
Well, Jason, I hope you remember that when people read the first 4 pages of your "book" and say "Wow, these first several pages aren't very good. I bet the rest of the book is just like this, so I'll tell everyone the book is awful based on 5% of printed work." That's fine - if someone gives me something to eat and it's rotten, I'm not going to keep eating it. That's not really how something like art works, like a video game or a movie or a book. You might know that you don't like something after just a sample. I don't like fish after one bite. I didn't like Skyrim after several hours of playing. However, I don't go on Skyrim fan forums to criticise the whole game that I never played based on my small amount of playtime. I don't criticise all of Moby Dick just because I couldn't get through the first few chapters. You can know you don't like something. Fine. But to criticise an entire work based on a small sample size is disingenuous and should be beneath a "journalist", as well as anyone who wants to be taken seriously.
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Post by Sondergaard on Jul 11, 2017 17:57:09 GMT
Wish I'd given up after 10hrs. Just kept going, hoping it would find it's feet and things would start to click. They didn't for me, unfortunately.
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Post by suikoden on Jul 11, 2017 17:59:33 GMT
That's fine - if someone gives me something to eat and it's rotten, I'm not going to keep eating it. That's not really how something like art works, like a video game or a movie or a book. You might know that you don't like something after just a sample. I don't like fish after one bite. I didn't like Skyrim after several hours of playing. However, I don't go on Skyrim fan forums to criticise the whole game that I never played based on my small amount of playtime. I don't criticise all of Moby Dick just because I couldn't get through the first few chapters. You can know you don't like something. Fine. But to criticise an entire work based on a small sample size is disingenuous and should be beneath a "journalist", as well as anyone who wants to be taken seriously. That's what YouTube is for. I'm confident it remains rotten throughout.
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Post by ShadowAngel on Jul 11, 2017 18:00:14 GMT
First impression means little to people these days. Instead it's better to play it to 100% just to come to the same conclusion you would've 50 hours ago. But your opinon is more flesh out and detailed. It is more detailed, however one doesn't need to go all the way to still come to a conclusion " I don't like insert name because of insert reason". I played the EA ten hour trial pre launch, I already had issues before the game came out with its progression system, the concept of hazards on worlds (cool idea but annoying how it's executed), the character creator, even part of the dialogue (and you could get a good few hours of nothing but dialogue in that ten hour period). The only reason to me to finish a game is to get the full understanding of a story. Stories can easily start off rocky, bland, boring, etc etc but then get better as it progresses or it could even be backwards where it's starting off great but then you end up with ME3. books are the same way. If they start off not going into character details or expanding in the plot and is just "stuff to read", why should one think it'll get better? I've stopped reading various books because most likely that would just continue on with the rest, doesn't mean it will, but what's to say it won't? Time could be better spent finding the next thing rather than hoping that your current project gets better. id be curious just to see what the responses would be had suikoden put 400 hours into the game but still says he disliked it. How many would say he's pretending to dislike it? It seems to be popular for people to do with people not approving of a game. "You haven't played enough to judge" or "you clearly like the game if you've played 100 hours". To me it's just a situation where you're always damned cause people don't care what you've to say. I've got 1,300 hours in destiny and that's the response I get from people, clearly my playtime must mean I like it right? It couldn't just be that I have 1.3k hours to strengthen my critique cause that's 1.3 hours to better understand it. Not to mention there are yourubers out there that record gameplay that people can look at. Watching or playing one can still judge if a cutscene is bad, or if what someone says is awful, etc etc.
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Post by maximusarael020 on Jul 11, 2017 18:05:14 GMT
But your opinon is more flesh out and detailed. It is more detailed, however one doesn't need to go all the way to still come to a conclusion " I don't like insert name because of insert reason". I played the EA ten hour trial pre launch, I already had issues before the game came out with its progression system, the concept of hazards on worlds (cool idea but annoying how it's executed), the character creator, even part of the dialogue (and you could get a good few hours of nothing but dialogue in that ten hour period). The only reason to me to finish a game is to get the full understanding of a story. Stories can easily start off rocky, bland, boring, etc etc but then get better as it progresses or it could even be backwards where it's starting off great but then you end up with ME3. books are the same way. If they start off not going into character details or expanding in the plot and is just "stuff to read", why should one think it'll get better? I've stopped reading various books because most likely that would just continue on with the rest, doesn't mean it will, but what's to say it won't? Time could be better spent finding the next thing rather than hoping that your current project gets better. id be curious just to see what the responses would be had suikoden put 400 hours into the game but still says he disliked it. How many would say he's pretending to dislike it? It seems to be popular for people to do with people not approving of a game. "You haven't played enough to judge" or "you clearly like the game if you've played 100 hours". To me it's just a situation where you're always damned cause people don't care what you've to say. I've got 1,300 hours in destiny and that's the response I get from people, clearly my playtime must mean I like it right? It couldn't just be that I have 1.3k hours to strengthen my critique cause that's 1.3 hours to better understand it. Not to mention there are yourubers out there that record gameplay that people can look at. Watching or playing one can still judge if a cutscene is bad, or if what someone says is awful, etc etc. This isn't about liking the game or deciding you don't want to play it. Reasonably, if you don't like the first hours of a game, no one can fault you for putting it down and not playing it. However, if you are going to make post after post after post criticising a game based on a small sample of the game, that's disingenuous. You don't really know the full tone, you can't judge all the writing, loyalty missions, ending, character growth, etc. Try judging "Full Metal Jacket" on the first 20 minutes. I dare you. Is the first 20 minutes representative of the whole movie? Not even a little. You can decide you don't like it in those 20 minutes, fine, but critiquing the entire movie based on those 20 minutes is ludicrous.
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Post by maximusarael020 on Jul 11, 2017 18:06:20 GMT
That's not really how something like art works, like a video game or a movie or a book. You might know that you don't like something after just a sample. I don't like fish after one bite. I didn't like Skyrim after several hours of playing. However, I don't go on Skyrim fan forums to criticise the whole game that I never played based on my small amount of playtime. I don't criticise all of Moby Dick just because I couldn't get through the first few chapters. You can know you don't like something. Fine. But to criticise an entire work based on a small sample size is disingenuous and should be beneath a "journalist", as well as anyone who wants to be taken seriously. That's what YouTube is for. I'm confident it remains rotten throughout. I feel bad for you if you think watching porn and having sex is anything the same.
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