Monica21
N3
Chaotic Good
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Neverwinter Nights, Mass Effect Andromeda
Posts: 586 Likes: 1,434
inherit
4858
0
Sept 16, 2021 21:34:12 GMT
1,434
Monica21
Chaotic Good
586
Mar 17, 2017 19:49:37 GMT
March 2017
monica21
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Neverwinter Nights, Mass Effect Andromeda
|
Post by Monica21 on Jul 15, 2017 18:42:18 GMT
This subforum is a big echo chamber for pro-ME:A opinions. Pro-ME:A speculation is amplified by the collective megaphone regardless of how wild or far-fetched it is. In contrast, any and all opinions that go against the established mindset are immediately attacked. Dissent is not welcomed here. I strongly support people voicing their favorable opinions of the game. If you love ME:A you should say so. That also means that people who don't like it should be able to express their views regardless of how frequent or prevalent these are expressed. There is not limit on how much you can say you love or dislike Andromeda. The situation here is similar to r/masseffect a few months back. We had to deal with Fandromedan onslaught any time we expressed our concerns with ME:A. Even innocuous questions about it were immediately downvoted unless they signaled they "loved" Andromeda. Simply put r/masseffect was cult-like for some time. Our remedy was mostly to wait out the Fandromedans implosion with a few PR tactics here and there. We tried to link to somewhat neutral r/games whenever possible to bring in more balanced opinions and we put the spotlight on the most "dedicated" Fandromedans to show the zaniness. Overall we mostly sat back and did drive by commenting. The strategy worked well. We ran out a few Fandromedans and the remaining ones toned it down. There's only one really "dedicated" Fandromedan and this fellow is insta-downvoted. Our sub is more or less neutral although still slightly pro-ME:A (as it should be). I believe those of you who want talk constructively about Andromeda would be wise to wait out the negative posters like suikoden or the even more numerous delusional posters (Biodromedans?). This subforum should be enjoyable a year from now with our without DLC announcement after the cultish Biodromedans move on. The rest of us just want to talk Mass Effect. Hah, that's funny. r/masseffect is a circle-jerk of hatorade. Congratulations on driving everyone away and insta-downvoting the one dissenting voice. That's a great thing to do. So when you say you "just want to talk Mass Effect" I can only assume you're excluding Andromeda, despite it being an ME game. Again, congrats. |
|
Monica21
N3
Chaotic Good
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Neverwinter Nights, Mass Effect Andromeda
Posts: 586 Likes: 1,434
inherit
4858
0
Sept 16, 2021 21:34:12 GMT
1,434
Monica21
Chaotic Good
586
Mar 17, 2017 19:49:37 GMT
March 2017
monica21
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Neverwinter Nights, Mass Effect Andromeda
|
Post by Monica21 on Jul 15, 2017 18:44:57 GMT
Everything you have just said can be turned around. Why keep praising MEA four months after release? We've heard all this praise before, the compliments, the quotes. So why is it necessary to keep coming here talking about how awesome the game is? I mean, we get it, we've all played it, you liked it, others didn't. The game is not going to significantly change, so why keep repeating the same stuff? But hey, if it's super important to you to keep praising the game, go for it. No rule says you can't. But it's just your opinion that you think it's so awesome. What do you get out of belittling people who clearly have a different perspective from you? Why be so hostile towards people bonding over their disappointment? Clearly, people do still care. It's not only annoying, but kinda hostile. Sure, but I'm here because I'm still playing it and hoping for additional content. You're not and you don't. So you're talking shit about a game you gave up on months ago, and that's fine because you're free to walk away from whatever game you want to walk away from, but at least I have a reason for being here. |
|
inherit
The Smiling Knight
538
0
24,097
smilesja
14,567
August 2016
smilesja
|
Post by smilesja on Jul 15, 2017 18:47:11 GMT
This subforum is a big echo chamber for pro-ME:A opinions. Pro-ME:A speculation is amplified by the collective megaphone regardless of how wild or far-fetched it is. In contrast, any and all opinions that go against the established mindset are immediately attacked. Dissent is not welcomed here. I strongly support people voicing their favorable opinions of the game. If you love ME:A you should say so. That also means that people who don't like it should be able to express their views regardless of how frequent or prevalent these are expressed. There is not limit on how much you can say you love or dislike Andromeda. The situation here is similar to r/masseffect a few months back. We had to deal with Fandromedan onslaught any time we expressed our concerns with ME:A. Even innocuous questions about it were immediately downvoted unless they signaled they "loved" Andromeda. Simply put r/masseffect was cult-like for some time. Our remedy was mostly to wait out the Fandromedans implosion with a few PR tactics here and there. We tried to link to somewhat neutral r/games whenever possible to bring in more balanced opinions and we put the spotlight on the most "dedicated" Fandromedans to show the zaniness. Overall we mostly sat back and did drive by commenting. The strategy worked well. We ran out a few Fandromedans and the remaining ones toned it down. There's only one really "dedicated" Fandromedan and this fellow is insta-downvoted. Our sub is more or less neutral although still slightly pro-ME:A (as it should be). I believe those of you who want talk constructively about Andromeda would be wise to wait out the negative posters like suikoden or the even more numerous delusional posters (Biodromedans?). This subforum should be enjoyable a year from now with our without DLC announcement after the cultish Biodromedans move on. The rest of us just want to talk Mass Effect. Hah, that's funny. r/masseffect is a circle-jerk of hatorade. Congratulations on driving everyone away and insta-downvoting the one dissenting voice. That's a great thing to do. So when you say you "just want to talk Mass Effect" I can only assume you're excluding Andromeda, despite it being an ME game. Again, congrats. I mean if detractors thought the BSN is bad. Go to the mass effect subreddit where arguably an echo chamber of hate. This forum is tame in comparison considering that only a handful (one guy?) is getting a lot of grief. |
|
inherit
2550
0
1,958
majesticjazz
2,015
January 2017
majesticjazz
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, KOTOR, Jade Empire
|
Post by majesticjazz on Jul 15, 2017 18:50:39 GMT
He has a point. I mean, prove him wrong by showing me a rule or guideline that says the only discussion about games here have to be positive discussion. Please, I want you to cause I know you can't. I made the decision to stay out of threads that were obviously intended to be positive towards MEA because I dont want to derail them. Yet people like you just seemed irked by the mere thread that talks about the game in a negative light. Then you hit below the belt by saying "we need to get a life" and other comments of that nature. There is a double standard. You can be a crazed MEA fan and participate in any positive MEA discussion and you are not considered to be biased or having an agenda. But yet let someone create a negative thread about MEA and you get attacked. And I am not talking about obvious troll threads, I mean legit threads that just shows MEA in a bad light. A while back I made a thread detailing point by point on what I didnt like about MEA, obviously a negative thread, but instead of mature debate on my points, people instead trolled my thread with gifs and memes detailing how tired they are with people throwing dirt on MEA and if thet dont like the game, they need to show themselves to the exit. I was seriously surprised because even in the old BSN, you could have a thread that is negative about a game and usually it is just filled with other people talking negative about the game with a few people talking positve about it. But this place man, as I said many times is more like an echo chamber for positive MEA discussion. People here seem to ONLY want positive MEA discussion which isnt what this place is for and if it is, please show me a rule that says so. If you do, I will gladly not post here and just post in the Anthem/DA4 forums. Well said. These threads are like that because most people aside from the stalwart defenders of ME:A kinda lost interest at this point.
It's a silent death really. After the now infamous ME:3 ending the BSN forums were white-hot with passion, the overwhelming majority of it negative. ME:A on the other hand hadn't really managed even that, because it isn't bad really, merely mediocre and disappointing.
I suppose it would be interesting to see if something like a story-driven DLC would renew some of that interest. Assuming something like this is even planned at this point.
Interesting take. I have this belief that if you are here at these forums, then most likely you are a die-hard Bioware supporter which is different from the older BSN forums where you had soft/neutral Bioware supporters where you had open debates on both sides of the spectrum (positive and negative). With this place being a place where truely dedicated Bioware fans call home, it is only natural that some sort of echo chamber style culture is prevalent here. A lot of people view this place not as a forum to discuss MEA (both positive and negative) but rather as a fan outpost for MEA where everyone regurgitates positive discussion about MEA and if you do the opposite, then you are in the wrong. Also I believe the reception of MEA has a lot to do with it as well. If MEA had a 95+ average review score, broke all sorts of sales records, had a great reception, and is said to be an easy contender for GOTY by all industry professionals.....then you would see a different tone in this place towards people who don't like the game. Instead of attacking people who don't like the game like what goes on now, people would just laugh off people who don't like the game and point out how they are in the minority and that their attempts to take down Bioware has failed and so on. But since it is the opposite and MEA got a bad reception, low review score average, and probably not in contention for any GOTY category, then a lot of MEA supporters seems a bit.....overly. Somewhere deep down inside (they won't admit it), they feel that maybe perhaps the "hate" against MEA is finally taking a toll on Bioware and perhaps that their decisions to make DLC or a sequel is based on the negative reception of the game. So when they see threads that deem MEA in a bad light, they comment with "why are you here?" or "Do you think we do not know this already?" and so on and so fourth. |
|
fatherjerusalem
N2
I used to think that I was cynical and a pessimist. Then I found the BSN.
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
XBL Gamertag: fatherjerusalem
Posts: 239 Likes: 980
inherit
1868
0
980
fatherjerusalem
I used to think that I was cynical and a pessimist. Then I found the BSN.
239
Oct 27, 2016 19:28:35 GMT
October 2016
fatherjerusalem
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
fatherjerusalem
|
Post by fatherjerusalem on Jul 15, 2017 18:50:54 GMT
"Why the need to show support? I mean, I thought people here are confident that SP DLC is coming? If you're so sure that it is coming, why do you need to start a movement to show support for the game? Is the game's financials not enough support for EA/Bioware?" bsn.boards.net/post/785355/threadIt's almost hard to believe that your attempts to derail a positive thread by being a dick ended up with your post derailing the thread. It's clear your only intention was to derail that thread, and then when you succeeded, you tried to take the high road by "bowing out" after getting exactly what you wanted. Still waiting on your response: Aren't you the dude who's crying because Bioware's still releasing patches for Andromeda? I'll repeat it again for the slow: Every game Bioware releases is judged harshly based on the previous game they've released. Whether it's a new IP - in which case it's judged against the suddenly flawless previous IP, or a new installment in a franchise - in which case it's judged against the suddenly flawless previous installment in said franchise. The rose colored glasses when it comes to Bioware are utterly ridiculous. Every game has had flaws. No game has been perfect. Yet every game when it comes out is all of a sudden trashed for not being perfect and the flaws in previous games are completely overlooked, even by people who were screaming about them when that game was released. It's a truly staggering amount of revisionist history. If all Bioware games are trashed, then please explain why that MEA is the ONLY Bioware game to ever have a low 70s average review score. By your logic, all other Bioware games should have been rated in the low 70s. Also, please explain why games like KOTOR, Mass Effect 1, Mass Effect 2, and DAI all won a slew of GOTY awards while MEA probably wont even be in the GOTY conversation? Please, explain... I'm sorry, are you under the impression that I owe you a god damned thing? The arrogance and the self-righteousness on you. Derail elsewhere, you pathetic edgelord. |
|
Qolx
N3
Sleuth
Posts: 250 Likes: 381
inherit
Sleuth
8864
0
381
Qolx
250
Jun 29, 2017 16:05:22 GMT
June 2017
qolx
|
Post by Qolx on Jul 15, 2017 18:51:04 GMT
This subforum is a big echo chamber for pro-ME:A opinions. Pro-ME:A speculation is amplified by the collective megaphone regardless of how wild or far-fetched it is. In contrast, any and all opinions that go against the established mindset are immediately attacked. Dissent is not welcomed here. I strongly support people voicing their favorable opinions of the game. If you love ME:A you should say so. That also means that people who don't like it should be able to express their views regardless of how frequent or prevalent these are expressed. There is not limit on how much you can say you love or dislike Andromeda. The situation here is similar to r/masseffect a few months back. We had to deal with Fandromedan onslaught any time we expressed our concerns with ME:A. Even innocuous questions about it were immediately downvoted unless they signaled they "loved" Andromeda. Simply put r/masseffect was cult-like for some time. Our remedy was mostly to wait out the Fandromedans implosion with a few PR tactics here and there. We tried to link to somewhat neutral r/games whenever possible to bring in more balanced opinions and we put the spotlight on the most "dedicated" Fandromedans to show the zaniness. Overall we mostly sat back and did drive by commenting. The strategy worked well. We ran out a few Fandromedans and the remaining ones toned it down. There's only one really "dedicated" Fandromedan and this fellow is insta-downvoted. Our sub is more or less neutral although still slightly pro-ME:A (as it should be). I believe those of you who want talk constructively about Andromeda would be wise to wait out the negative posters like suikoden or the even more numerous delusional posters (Biodromedans?). This subforum should be enjoyable a year from now with our without DLC announcement after the cultish Biodromedans move on. The rest of us just want to talk Mass Effect. Hah, that's funny. r/masseffect is a circle-jerk of hatorade. Congratulations on driving everyone away and insta-downvoting the one dissenting voice. That's a great thing to do. So when you say you "just want to talk Mass Effect" I can only assume you're excluding Andromeda, despite it being an ME game. Again, congrats. The game is called Mass Effect: Andromeda. It is a part of the ME canon. Personally, I hate the Ryders, the rest of ME:A I find decent but that's a different topic. You should visit r/masseffect right now. You'll see all kinds of posts on the front page especially ME:A posts. We downvote delusional opinions but any and all pro-ME:A opinions are upvoted by many people. There are more ME:A discussions there than here and that's a fact. Like I said, go check it out. Your post is an example of what I'm talking about. You immediately attacked me w/o bothering to do some background reading. Your assumptions make an ass of you, not me. |
|
Iakus
N7
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR
Posts: 21,292 Likes: 50,652
inherit
402
0
Dec 21, 2018 17:35:11 GMT
50,652
Iakus
21,292
August 2016
iakus
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR
|
Post by Iakus on Jul 15, 2017 18:54:23 GMT
Everything you have just said can be turned around. Why keep praising MEA four months after release? We've heard all this praise before, the compliments, the quotes. So why is it necessary to keep coming here talking about how awesome the game is? I mean, we get it, we've all played it, you liked it, others didn't. The game is not going to significantly change, so why keep repeating the same stuff? But hey, if it's super important to you to keep praising the game, go for it. No rule says you can't. But it's just your opinion that you think it's so awesome. What do you get out of belittling people who clearly have a different perspective from you? Why be so hostile towards people bonding over their disappointment? Clearly, people do still care. It's not only annoying, but kinda hostile. Sure, but I'm here because I'm still playing it and hoping for additional content. You're not and you don't. So you're talking shit about a game you gave up on months ago, and that's fine because you're free to walk away from whatever game you want to walk away from, but at least I have a reason for being here. I'm here because there's off-topic forums and I'm waiting for the next Dragon Age game (that IP hasn't been completely frakked up. Yet). And because there's others here who are as disappointed in Mass Effect as I am, keeping this from being a COMPLETE echo chamber. |
|
fatherjerusalem
N2
I used to think that I was cynical and a pessimist. Then I found the BSN.
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
XBL Gamertag: fatherjerusalem
Posts: 239 Likes: 980
inherit
1868
0
980
fatherjerusalem
I used to think that I was cynical and a pessimist. Then I found the BSN.
239
Oct 27, 2016 19:28:35 GMT
October 2016
fatherjerusalem
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
fatherjerusalem
|
Post by fatherjerusalem on Jul 15, 2017 18:55:22 GMT
This subforum is a big echo chamber for pro-ME:A opinions. Pro-ME:A speculation is amplified by the collective megaphone regardless of how wild or far-fetched it is. In contrast, any and all opinions that go against the established mindset are immediately attacked. Dissent is not welcomed here. I strongly support people voicing their favorable opinions of the game. If you love ME:A you should say so. That also means that people who don't like it should be able to express their views regardless of how frequent or prevalent these are expressed. There is not limit on how much you can say you love or dislike Andromeda. The situation here is similar to r/masseffect a few months back. We had to deal with Fandromedan onslaught any time we expressed our concerns with ME:A. Even innocuous questions about it were immediately downvoted unless they signaled they "loved" Andromeda. Simply put r/masseffect was cult-like for some time. Our remedy was mostly to wait out the Fandromedans implosion with a few PR tactics here and there. We tried to link to somewhat neutral r/games whenever possible to bring in more balanced opinions and we put the spotlight on the most "dedicated" Fandromedans to show the zaniness. Overall we mostly sat back and did drive by commenting. The strategy worked well. We ran out a few Fandromedans and the remaining ones toned it down. There's only one really "dedicated" Fandromedan and this fellow is insta-downvoted. Our sub is more or less neutral although still slightly pro-ME:A (as it should be). I believe those of you who want talk constructively about Andromeda would be wise to wait out the negative posters like suikoden or the even more numerous delusional posters (Biodromedans?). This subforum should be enjoyable a year from now with our without DLC announcement after the cultish Biodromedans move on. The rest of us just want to talk Mass Effect. I mean, you're proud of the fact that you drove away people who like the game. "Neutral". That's exactly what people like sui and majesticwhatever, and laughingdouche want to happen here too. If you like bioware and like their games, they'll derail every thread you make and try to make this place as hostile as they can to you. It's pathetic. You're pathetic. |
|
inherit
2550
0
1,958
majesticjazz
2,015
January 2017
majesticjazz
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, KOTOR, Jade Empire
|
Post by majesticjazz on Jul 15, 2017 18:56:37 GMT
Everything you have just said can be turned around. Why keep praising MEA four months after release? We've heard all this praise before, the compliments, the quotes. So why is it necessary to keep coming here talking about how awesome the game is? I mean, we get it, we've all played it, you liked it, others didn't. The game is not going to significantly change, so why keep repeating the same stuff? But hey, if it's super important to you to keep praising the game, go for it. No rule says you can't. But it's just your opinion that you think it's so awesome. What do you get out of belittling people who clearly have a different perspective from you? Why be so hostile towards people bonding over their disappointment? Clearly, people do still care. It's not only annoying, but kinda hostile. Sure, but I'm here because I'm still playing it and hoping for additional content. You're not and you don't. So you're talking shit about a game you gave up on months ago, and that's fine because you're free to walk away from whatever game you want to walk away from, but at least I have a reason for being here.Oh really? So because I stopped playing the game because I disliked it....that means I have no reason for being here? Is this what you're really implying? |
|
fatherjerusalem
N2
I used to think that I was cynical and a pessimist. Then I found the BSN.
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
XBL Gamertag: fatherjerusalem
Posts: 239 Likes: 980
inherit
1868
0
980
fatherjerusalem
I used to think that I was cynical and a pessimist. Then I found the BSN.
239
Oct 27, 2016 19:28:35 GMT
October 2016
fatherjerusalem
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
fatherjerusalem
|
Post by fatherjerusalem on Jul 15, 2017 18:56:43 GMT
Sure, but I'm here because I'm still playing it and hoping for additional content. You're not and you don't. So you're talking shit about a game you gave up on months ago, and that's fine because you're free to walk away from whatever game you want to walk away from, but at least I have a reason for being here. I'm here because there's off-topic forums and I'm waiting for the next Dragon Age game (that IP hasn't been completely frakked up. Yet). And because there's others here who are as disappointed in Mass Effect as I am, keeping this from being a COMPLETE echo chamber. "I'm here because people like Mass Effect and that makes me angry." |
|
Monica21
N3
Chaotic Good
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Neverwinter Nights, Mass Effect Andromeda
Posts: 586 Likes: 1,434
inherit
4858
0
Sept 16, 2021 21:34:12 GMT
1,434
Monica21
Chaotic Good
586
Mar 17, 2017 19:49:37 GMT
March 2017
monica21
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Neverwinter Nights, Mass Effect Andromeda
|
Post by Monica21 on Jul 15, 2017 18:57:17 GMT
The game is called Mass Effect: Andromeda. It is a part of the ME canon. Personally, I hate the Ryders, the rest of ME:A I find decent but that's a different topic. You should visit r/masseffect right now. You'll see all kinds of posts on the front page especially ME:A posts. We downvote delusional opinions but any and all pro-ME:A opinions are upvoted by many people. There are more ME:A discussions there than here and that's a fact. Like I said, go check it out. Your post is an example of what I'm talking about. You immediately attacked me w/o bothering to do some background reading. Your assumptions make an ass of you, not me. Excuse you? You just bragged about downvoting the one remaining "Fandromedan." How else am I supposed to take your statement that "ran off "Fandromedans" and are now insta-downvoting the lone dissenter with you doing other than just that? Again, good job on making r/masseffect the echo chamber you wanted it to be. |
|
inherit
The Smiling Knight
538
0
24,097
smilesja
14,567
August 2016
smilesja
|
Post by smilesja on Jul 15, 2017 18:57:20 GMT
In thought people who loved the game were in the minority? It's okay to express dislike, but don't be surprised when you have people disagree with you. The same goes for people who love the game.
|
|
inherit
2550
0
1,958
majesticjazz
2,015
January 2017
majesticjazz
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, KOTOR, Jade Empire
|
Post by majesticjazz on Jul 15, 2017 18:58:09 GMT
Still waiting on your response: If all Bioware games are trashed, then please explain why that MEA is the ONLY Bioware game to ever have a low 70s average review score. By your logic, all other Bioware games should have been rated in the low 70s. Also, please explain why games like KOTOR, Mass Effect 1, Mass Effect 2, and DAI all won a slew of GOTY awards while MEA probably wont even be in the GOTY conversation? Please, explain... I'm sorry, are you under the impression that I owe you a god damned thing? The arrogance and the self-righteousness on you. Derail elsewhere, you pathetic edgelord. So you can't answer the question. My point exactly. But I'll ask it again..... for the slow: If all Bioware games are trashed, then please explain why that MEA is the ONLY Bioware game to ever have a low 70s average review score. By your logic, all other Bioware games should have been rated in the low 70s. Also, please explain why games like KOTOR, Mass Effect 1, Mass Effect 2, and DAI all won a slew of GOTY awards while MEA probably wont even be in the GOTY conversation? |
|
Monica21
N3
Chaotic Good
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Neverwinter Nights, Mass Effect Andromeda
Posts: 586 Likes: 1,434
inherit
4858
0
Sept 16, 2021 21:34:12 GMT
1,434
Monica21
Chaotic Good
586
Mar 17, 2017 19:49:37 GMT
March 2017
monica21
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Neverwinter Nights, Mass Effect Andromeda
|
Post by Monica21 on Jul 15, 2017 18:59:03 GMT
Oh really? So because I stopped playing the game because I disliked it....that means I have no reason for being here? Is this what you're really implying? No, I'm pretty sure your reason for being here is to tell everyone else what's wrong with the game, tell them that sales were terrible, and that there won't be a DLC. That's at least three reasons for being here. |
|
inherit
2550
0
1,958
majesticjazz
2,015
January 2017
majesticjazz
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, KOTOR, Jade Empire
|
Post by majesticjazz on Jul 15, 2017 19:01:33 GMT
Oh really? So because I stopped playing the game because I disliked it....that means I have no reason for being here? Is this what you're really implying? No, I'm pretty sure your reason for being here is to tell everyone else what's wrong with the game, tell them that sales were terrible, and that there won't be a DLC. That's at least three reasons for being here.  |
|
Qolx
N3
Sleuth
Posts: 250 Likes: 381
inherit
Sleuth
8864
0
381
Qolx
250
Jun 29, 2017 16:05:22 GMT
June 2017
qolx
|
Post by Qolx on Jul 15, 2017 19:02:11 GMT
This subforum is a big echo chamber for pro-ME:A opinions. Pro-ME:A speculation is amplified by the collective megaphone regardless of how wild or far-fetched it is. In contrast, any and all opinions that go against the established mindset are immediately attacked. Dissent is not welcomed here. I strongly support people voicing their favorable opinions of the game. If you love ME:A you should say so. That also means that people who don't like it should be able to express their views regardless of how frequent or prevalent these are expressed. There is not limit on how much you can say you love or dislike Andromeda. The situation here is similar to r/masseffect a few months back. We had to deal with Fandromedan onslaught any time we expressed our concerns with ME:A. Even innocuous questions about it were immediately downvoted unless they signaled they "loved" Andromeda. Simply put r/masseffect was cult-like for some time. Our remedy was mostly to wait out the Fandromedans implosion with a few PR tactics here and there. We tried to link to somewhat neutral r/games whenever possible to bring in more balanced opinions and we put the spotlight on the most "dedicated" Fandromedans to show the zaniness. Overall we mostly sat back and did drive by commenting. The strategy worked well. We ran out a few Fandromedans and the remaining ones toned it down. There's only one really "dedicated" Fandromedan and this fellow is insta-downvoted. Our sub is more or less neutral although still slightly pro-ME:A (as it should be). I believe those of you who want talk constructively about Andromeda would be wise to wait out the negative posters like suikoden or the even more numerous delusional posters (Biodromedans?). This subforum should be enjoyable a year from now with our without DLC announcement after the cultish Biodromedans move on. The rest of us just want to talk Mass Effect. I mean, you're proud of the fact that you drove away people who like the game. "Neutral". That's exactly what people like sui and majesticwhatever, and laughingdouche want to happen here too. If you like bioware and like their games, they'll derail every thread you make and try to make this place as hostile as they can to you. It's pathetic. You're pathetic. Yes, I am proud that we drove away people who only wanted cultish devotion to Andromeda. That's the kind of mindset that kills discussion. We downvote haters and Fandromedans equally. That's how we keep it mostly balanced and neutral. But I understand you're upset that people can and do express negative opinions about something you like. Perhaps you believe that anything that's not fawning devotion is "hate." |
|
inherit
The Smiling Knight
538
0
24,097
smilesja
14,567
August 2016
smilesja
|
Post by smilesja on Jul 15, 2017 19:03:10 GMT
I mean, you're proud of the fact that you drove away people who like the game. "Neutral". That's exactly what people like sui and majesticwhatever, and laughingdouche want to happen here too. If you like bioware and like their games, they'll derail every thread you make and try to make this place as hostile as they can to you. It's pathetic. You're pathetic. Yes, I am proud that we drove away people who only wanted cultish devotion to Andromeda. That's the kind of mindset that kills discussion. We downvote haters and Fandromedans equally. That's how we keep it mostly balanced and neutral. But I understand you're upset that people can and do express negative opinions about something you like. Perhaps you believe that anything that's not fawning devotion is "hate." So it's okay when you do it? |
|
inherit
2550
0
1,958
majesticjazz
2,015
January 2017
majesticjazz
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, KOTOR, Jade Empire
|
Post by majesticjazz on Jul 15, 2017 19:06:08 GMT
So you can't answer the question. My point exactly. But I'll ask it again..... for the slow: If all Bioware games are trashed, then please explain why that MEA is the ONLY Bioware game to ever have a low 70s average review score. By your logic, all other Bioware games should have been rated in the low 70s. Also, please explain why games like KOTOR, Mass Effect 1, Mass Effect 2, and DAI all won a slew of GOTY awards while MEA probably wont even be in the GOTY conversation? Oh my god you're such a pissy little baby. If all Bioware games are trashed, then please explain why that MEA is the ONLY Bioware game to ever have a low 70s average review score. By your logic, all other Bioware games should have been rated in the low 70s. Also, please explain why games like KOTOR, Mass Effect 1, Mass Effect 2, and DAI all won a slew of GOTY awards while MEA probably wont even be in the GOTY conversation?  |
|
Guts
N3
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Mass Effect Andromeda
Posts: 788 Likes: 780
inherit
8463
0
780
Guts
788
May 17, 2017 21:57:52 GMT
May 2017
gatsu66
Mass Effect Trilogy, Mass Effect Andromeda
|
Post by Guts on Jul 15, 2017 19:06:41 GMT
*sigh* basically if you hate the game, those that like it aren't allowed to enjoy it. If you love the game, haters aren't allowed to find flaws with it. What a pointless cycle that's a complete waste of energy. :smh: I'm admittedly a little guilty of the latter....  I guess I'm just sick of youtube comments being toxic, but then again, doesn't look like that'll ever stop. |
|
Qolx
N3
Sleuth
Posts: 250 Likes: 381
inherit
Sleuth
8864
0
381
Qolx
250
Jun 29, 2017 16:05:22 GMT
June 2017
qolx
|
Post by Qolx on Jul 15, 2017 19:07:15 GMT
The game is called Mass Effect: Andromeda. It is a part of the ME canon. Personally, I hate the Ryders, the rest of ME:A I find decent but that's a different topic. You should visit r/masseffect right now. You'll see all kinds of posts on the front page especially ME:A posts. We downvote delusional opinions but any and all pro-ME:A opinions are upvoted by many people. There are more ME:A discussions there than here and that's a fact. Like I said, go check it out. Your post is an example of what I'm talking about. You immediately attacked me w/o bothering to do some background reading. Your assumptions make an ass of you, not me. Excuse you? You just bragged about downvoting the one remaining "Fandromedan." How else am I supposed to take your statement that "ran off "Fandromedans" and are now insta-downvoting the lone dissenter with you doing other than just that? Again, good job on making r/masseffect the echo chamber you wanted it to be. We have plenty of Fandromedans around just not the cultish ones. I think the one we insta-downvote is actually a poster here who claims "anyone who criticizes Andromeda supports people who want to kill BW developers" or some such. We have another one who claims ME:A is "the best game ever" and calls the rest of us retards for disagreeing but that person is mostly entertaining at this point. Like I said, feel free to visit the sub and participate. We welcome all reasonable voices. |
|
inherit
2550
0
1,958
majesticjazz
2,015
January 2017
majesticjazz
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, KOTOR, Jade Empire
|
Post by majesticjazz on Jul 15, 2017 19:07:53 GMT
Yes, I am proud that we drove away people who only wanted cultish devotion to Andromeda. That's the kind of mindset that kills discussion. We downvote haters and Fandromedans equally. That's how we keep it mostly balanced and neutral. But I understand you're upset that people can and do express negative opinions about something you like. Perhaps you believe that anything that's not fawning devotion is "hate."  |
|
jaegerbane
N3
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
Origin: JaegerBane
PSN: JaegerBane
Posts: 582 Likes: 1,110
inherit
8633
0
Aug 11, 2017 17:15:47 GMT
1,110
jaegerbane
582
June 2017
jaegerbane
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
JaegerBane
JaegerBane
|
Post by jaegerbane on Jul 15, 2017 19:08:29 GMT
I'm sorry, are you under the impression that I owe you a god damned thing? The arrogance and the self-righteousness on you. Derail elsewhere, you pathetic edgelord. So you can't answer the question. My point exactly. But I'll ask it again..... for the slow: If all Bioware games are trashed, then please explain why that MEA is the ONLY Bioware game to ever have a low 70s average review score. By your logic, all other Bioware games should have been rated in the low 70s. Also, please explain why games like KOTOR, Mass Effect 1, Mass Effect 2, and DAI all won a slew of GOTY awards while MEA probably wont even be in the GOTY conversation? The impression I was getting was that fatherjerusalem was pointing that practically every Bioware game out there is always negatively viewed by a segment of the community, always negatively compared to it's predecessor (or predecessor series if it's the first game of it's type), and it's always the worst thing ever and Bioware are on their way down. It's bizarre you've brought up DAI there as most of the same stuff being thrown at MEA was thrown at DAI. Too much exploration, not enough squadmate control, boring story etc etc etc. There is a legitimate point to be made that the scores of MEA are lower than previous games (which is to be expected given its release state) but if the argument is that MEA is a bad game because it 'only' got 7s and 8s then I'm not really sure what point you've think you've made. It's not even like the scores themselves are above question, as DA2 was getting reviews in the 90s (superior to ME3, IIRC) despite it being the same kind of story as MEA - this is a seperate point to whether it's trashed or not. I suspect that this time next year the view of MEA will have improved. It's happened with literally every game Bioware have produced in the last 6+ years. |
|
inherit
2550
0
1,958
majesticjazz
2,015
January 2017
majesticjazz
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, KOTOR, Jade Empire
|
Post by majesticjazz on Jul 15, 2017 19:10:11 GMT
*sigh* basically if you hate the game, those that like it aren't allowed to enjoy it. If you love the game, haters aren't allowed to find flaws with it. What a pointless cycle that's a complete waste of energy. :smh: Off topic, but is your name in reference to the Jedi Consular class in SWTOR? |
|
Qolx
N3
Sleuth
Posts: 250 Likes: 381
inherit
Sleuth
8864
0
381
Qolx
250
Jun 29, 2017 16:05:22 GMT
June 2017
qolx
|
Post by Qolx on Jul 15, 2017 19:10:55 GMT
Yes, I am proud that we drove away people who only wanted cultish devotion to Andromeda. That's the kind of mindset that kills discussion. We downvote haters and Fandromedans equally. That's how we keep it mostly balanced and neutral. But I understand you're upset that people can and do express negative opinions about something you like. Perhaps you believe that anything that's not fawning devotion is "hate." "t's to flat out attack, belittle, and demean anyone" You're the one calling me a cunt and pathetic. I have not insulted you. You're upset because we don't tolerate cult behavior. Let's end our "chat" here. Thank you and have a good one. |
|
Monica21
N3
Chaotic Good
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Neverwinter Nights, Mass Effect Andromeda
Posts: 586 Likes: 1,434
inherit
4858
0
Sept 16, 2021 21:34:12 GMT
1,434
Monica21
Chaotic Good
586
Mar 17, 2017 19:49:37 GMT
March 2017
monica21
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Neverwinter Nights, Mass Effect Andromeda
|
Post by Monica21 on Jul 15, 2017 19:11:05 GMT
*sigh* basically if you hate the game, those that like it aren't allowed to enjoy it. If you love the game, haters aren't allowed to find flaws with it. What a pointless cycle that's a complete waste of energy. :smh: Nah, that's not true. There are plenty of things I don't like about Andromeda. The problem is that any discussion about those things becomes "Andromeda has crappy sales" and "Andromeda has a low metacritic score" when those things are not what I'm interested in discussing. I know that those things are true and I know that there's nothing I can do about them. What's the point in talking about them when there are more interesting specifics? |
|
