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Post by capn233 on Jul 16, 2017 15:24:02 GMT
Could be worse. You could be wasting time checking how much damage each enemy does.
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Post by derrame on Jul 16, 2017 17:00:24 GMT
yes, it's boring it's only shooting and running the problem is, that it's not cooperative as ME3MP is, This Multiplayer in Andromeda is not COOPerative! there are only players/characters running and shooting, like an idiotic generic "shoot 'em up" where is cooperation!? in ME3MP we had lots of skills and powers to share, and interact and cooperate with teammates, like the map hack/ reveal enemies behind walls, the juggernaut shield, the N7 engineer's backpack-turrent to recharge shields or deploy ammo, the recharging shield volus, the N7 sentinel's shield the geth engineer's turret to attack enemies or recharge shields, the quarian turret, the asari justicar's biotic bubble, etc, all of them useful to protect fallen teammates until revive or protect teammates when activating/deactivating devices, where is all of that or similar in MEAMP!? in ME3MP, anything could happen, the game is totally unpredictable, and we can take cover and attack from cover, cover players from far away, send them a turrent togive cover fire or to recharge the shields reveal enemies to everyone, use tech shield to pretect when somene is de/activating devices, put a wall to protect the group from incoming enemies, etc and create lots of combinations, biotics explosions, tech explosions, all the time, i was easier to work together use shield or turrets to cover the one who is reviving a fallen character, etc now in MEAMP there is less cover, or cover is just useless, everyone is running around across the whole map, shooting it seems that its harder to cooperate everyone is concentrated in runnning and shootg, less power combos, etc i started a thread about this months ago bsn.boards.net/thread/5202/where-cooperation
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Post by jmac1424 on Jul 16, 2017 17:24:45 GMT
So, I'm supposed to camp or elephant walk with the Pugs?
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Post by RonnieBlastoff on Jul 16, 2017 17:35:42 GMT
yes, it's boring it's only shooting and running :oki: the problem is, that it's not cooperative as ME3MP is, This Multiplayer in Andromeda is not COOPerative! there are only players/characters running and shooting, like an idiotic generic "shoot 'em up" where is cooperation!? in ME3MP we had lots of skills and powers to share, and interact and cooperate with teammates, like the map hack/ reveal enemies behind walls, the juggernaut shield, the N7 engineer's backpack-turrent to recharge shields or deploy ammo, the recharging shield volus, the N7 sentinel's shield the geth engineer's turret to attack enemies or recharge shields, the quarian turret, the asari justicar's biotic bubble, etc, all of them useful to protect fallen teammates until revive or protect teammates when activating/deactivating devices, where is all of that or similar in MEAMP!? in ME3MP, anything could happen, the game is totally unpredictable, and we can take cover and attack from cover, cover players from far away, send them a turrent togive cover fire or to recharge the shields reveal enemies to everyone, use tech shield to pretect when somene is de/activating devices, put a wall to protect the group from incoming enemies, etc and create lots of combinations, biotics explosions, tech explosions, all the time, i was easier to work together use shield or turrets to cover the one who is reviving a fallen character, etc now in MEAMP there is less cover, or cover is just useless, everyone is running around across the whole map, shooting it seems that its harder to cooperate everyone is concentrated in runnning and shootg, less power combos, etc i started a thread about this months ago bsn.boards.net/thread/5202/where-cooperationI have no idea where you got cooperation in ME3MP, but there is no more than there is here. MEAMP platinum is where you'll find coop play. And all the abilities in a way, besides maybe stasis, are still in MEAMP. The cooperation issue doesn't stem from the game directly, its the players who choose NOT to cooperate. Platinum is changing that, just the mass player base thinks that means to camp.
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Post by Scathane on Jul 16, 2017 17:47:03 GMT
I don't know if I would admit to that. Er.., then what was this: No it's not. But, you know, that's just like my opinion, man. Hiding it? #genuinelyinterested In all seriousness, there's a multitude of stupid shit in this game. Released in beta stage (that's being generous), lack of diverse kits/powers, hiding skill points behind character cards(my biggest gripe until weapon skin dump), definitely needs more units for enemy factions, terrible ass Frostbite, etc. But, I do like the game. I can play with buddies for hours. Pugging can get a bit boring at times, but I like the game. And, I definitely understand why people don't like the game. Yeah, there may be a lot of stupidity/bugs/glitches in this game but then the same goes for the OT (or virtually any other game out there): it was far from perfect. And, in the end, you know, it's just, like, my opinion, man...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2017 17:49:15 GMT
The problem is the enemies are lame. That's a huge part of it. I know I harp on this a lot, but I really, really, really hate the damned dogs and constant staggers. One thing that's really irked me is the core gameplay changes. ME3 was definitely faster than ME2, but there was a deliberateness with which you moved around the map. You learned not only the spawn locations but the probable makeup of that spawn so that you didn't run into a Banshee or pack of Phantoms. With Andromeda, you just shoot stuff as it walks/floats toward you. Speaking of enemies, remember when sync kills were dangerous and not in the "I'll sync kill you for being 1 foot above me" way the Fiends are now or the magnet-hands Banshees? I'm talking in the way that, if you screwed up and a Phantom snuck up on you or you were too close to a Banshee or Brute, you died. It never felt good when that happened, but it gave those enemies a greater sense of threat. Do you shoot the two Ravagers that are far away or the Banshee that's rushing you? With Andromeda, you can just jump over Fiends, Ascendant, and Hyrdas, and can dodge out of an Ascendant sync before it happens. That's really it to me: no enemy in Andromeda feels like it's a higher priority than others. There's no picking and choosing targets anymore, just shoot whatever's in front of you. If you get in trouble, just dash away a few times and your good. Odds are, the enemies won't kill you while you're dashing. In 3, if you got caught out, you had to either fight your way out or try to run. if you ran, you were open to fire. You had options to weigh when picking targets. Map knowledge mattered because you needed to make sure you didn't run into a spawn, or if you did you needed to know how to get out. Yeah, in essence each game boils down to a simple horde mode, but the slight gameplay differences really do make a difference to me. 3 required a bit more forethought at the cost of slower, more deliberate play. Andromeda's faster but at the cost of depth. Not to mention the power setups are blegh, there's almost nothing new for weapons, and the terrible movement system that allows Bioware to only add verticality to their maps and nothing else. Oh, and the shittillion unlocks. A zillion times this. Fiend sync-kills were so broke for so long, I think a lot of us got to the point where we just sort of accepted them as inevitable. Unlike ME3, being synced in MEA became "meh." Enemies all seem to have 360 degree vision, perfect situational awareness, instantaneous pinpoint accuracy, and can come from just about anywhere. They designed it to force you to be constantly moving - so many units have grenades or other skills that can damage and stagger you through cover. Longer cooldowns combined with damage nerfs makes caster play much less enjoyable; every kit needs to be a weapons platform, too. Previous games supported tactical, strategic, deliberate, varied gameplay - MEA is more focused on constantly reacting to circumstances, and I vastly prefer the former.
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Post by tatsumaki on Jul 16, 2017 18:05:55 GMT
In short: Too little too late. When the game came out despite negative reviews, bugs and all some of us still trucked on be it being faithful to the franchise or trying to get most mileage off the game.
Despite constant feedback from requests to buffing guns globally and reducing cross hair bloom Bioware doesn't listen - they just want to do whatever the hell they want. No one is asking them to completely and blindly listen to fan's requests but many feed back have sound reasoning.
Nope. Do what we want, introduce false longevity by 4X all the cards giving way too much redundant cards that practically drive away what remainder small pool of players left.
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Post by jmac1424 on Jul 16, 2017 18:10:28 GMT
I don't know if I would admit to that. Er.., then what was this: No it's not. But, you know, that's just like my opinion, man. Hiding it? #genuinelyinterested In all seriousness, there's a multitude of stupid shit in this game. Released in beta stage (that's being generous), lack of diverse kits/powers, hiding skill points behind character cards(my biggest gripe until weapon skin dump), definitely needs more units for enemy factions, terrible ass Frostbite, etc. But, I do like the game. I can play with buddies for hours. Pugging can get a bit boring at times, but I like the game. And, I definitely understand why people don't like the game. Yeah, there may be a lot of stupidity/bugs/glitches in this game but then the same goes for the OT (or virtually any other game out there): it was far from perfect. And, in the end, you know, it's just, like, my opinion, man... Ahhh, just joking about the fact someone would agree with my scrubby dub dub ass. Just attempting at some humor. In the immortal words of Walter Sobcheck, " Good night, sweet prince." Lollofl
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2017 18:53:56 GMT
Threads like this leave me completely confused. I just want to play a game other people play, and I can play & I only have time for one game. I like either MP, and frankly I am at a loss which one to invest time into. I just wish folks decide one way or another which one everyone's gonna play.
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Threads like this leave me completely confused. I just want to play a game other people play, and I can play & I only have time for one game. I like either MP, and frankly I am at a loss which one to invest time into. I just wish folks decide one way or another which one everyone's gonna play. G R U P T H I N K
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Post by QU67 on Jul 16, 2017 20:02:23 GMT
Threads like this leave me completely confused. I just want to play a game other people play, and I can play & I only have time for one game. I like either MP, and frankly I am at a loss which one to invest time into. I just wish folks decide one way or another which one everyone's gonna play. If you're being serious, go off two things: Which game you like more, or which one your friends are playing. Cause as much as I've ragged on Andromeda, the few rounds I've played with friends have been fun. If none of your friends really play either, then pick which one is more fun to you.
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Post by Uchimura on Jul 16, 2017 21:25:38 GMT
Despite constant feedback from requests to buffing guns globally and reducing cross hair bloom Bioware doesn't listen - they just want to do whatever the hell they want. No one is asking them to completely and blindly listen to fan's requests but many feed back have sound reasoning. They did buff a lot of guns and reduced bloom on autos.. Quite confused by this statement. There are a few anomalies like Sandstorm and they still didn't change the shitty charge mechanic, but your example are off.
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Threads like this leave me completely confused. I just want to play a game other people play, and I can play & I only have time for one game. I like either MP, and frankly I am at a loss which one to invest time into. I just wish folks decide one way or another which one everyone's gonna play. If you're being serious, go off two things: Which game you like more, or which one your friends are playing. Cause as much as I've ragged on Andromeda, the few rounds I've played with friends have been fun. If none of your friends really play either, then pick which one is more fun to you. I like both about the same & I pug, and I just want to play the one that will last longer. I guess, I will just throw my fate in with Andromeda and hope for the best.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2017 22:45:09 GMT
Threads like this leave me completely confused. Bunch of losers who want BioWare to die have no lives and whine about everything in the game, MP included. That should bring you up to speed.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2017 22:54:30 GMT
Threads like this leave me completely confused. Bunch of losers who want BioWare to die have no lives and whine about everything in the game, MP included. That should bring you up to speed. As long as they keep playing, one or another, and I know which one, I honestly am past caring and posturing on the social media. Hells, if everyone decides in concert that DA3MP is where the action is, I'll grind my teeth and go there. I am just not a fan of sitting in queues and open night mike unhappiness while the game is on. I just need to know where I can happily fly under the radar and play to my heart's content.
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Post by Uchimura on Jul 16, 2017 23:00:46 GMT
Bunch of losers who want BioWare to die have no lives and whine about everything in the game, MP included. That should bring you up to speed. As long as they keep playing, one or another, and I know which one, I honestly am past caring and posturing on the social media. Hells, if everyone decides in concert that DA3MP is where the action is, I'll grind my teeth and go there. I am just not a fan of sitting in queues and open night mike unhappiness while the game is on. I just need to know where I can happily fly under the radar and play to my heart's content. BSN isn't the best place to look for inspiring hope. Had a lot of reservations when thinking about joining this site, remembering the hell that was ME3's SP forum, which was reincarnated in the MEA MP forum a few months back. Anyway.. play what you enjoy. Don't let a forum dictate what you should spend your time on. This place represents a very small portion of the playerbase. There's going to be people on either game. There's still people playing games a lot older than these.
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Post by MrsFlyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyingKebab on Jul 16, 2017 23:04:54 GMT
Threads like this leave me completely confused. Bunch of losers who want BioWare to die have no lives and whine about everything in the game, MP included. That should bring you up to speed. I beg to differ. My love for ME3 made me want MEA to be the game that made me put ME3 away for good. Instead it's done exactly the opposite. And I have plenty of life, hence my reluctance to waste my valuable gaming time on MEA. As for Bioware, I don't wish them ill. I just think EA and Bioware should have got their arses in gear much sooner than they did.
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Post by jadedragonmtr on Jul 16, 2017 23:07:23 GMT
Bunch of losers who want BioWare to die have no lives and whine about everything in the game, MP included. That should bring you up to speed. As long as they keep playing, one or another, and I know which one, I honestly am past caring and posturing on the social media. Hells, if everyone decides in concert that DA3MP is where the action is, I'll grind my teeth and go there. I am just not a fan of sitting in queues and open night mike unhappiness while the game is on. I just need to know where I can happily fly under the radar and play to my heart's content. If you enjoy playing the game, may I suggest that you build a group of friends who are in the close by time zones and whom you get along with. This way you can enjoy the game for years to come without worrying about how many people are still playing the game. ME3MP is a good example of that.
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Post by QU67 on Jul 16, 2017 23:08:10 GMT
Threads like this leave me completely confused. Bunch of losers who want BioWare to die have no lives and whine about everything in the game, MP included. That should bring you up to speed. Bunch of people who wish the game was better bring up complaints they have (well-worded or otherwise) about a game in a series they love, especially the MP considering it has a lot of problems and is the only part of the game that's still being supported. Obviously you feel differently about Andromeda, and I honestly would like to hear why you like it so much. If you have the time, of course.
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Post by jadedragonmtr on Jul 16, 2017 23:14:48 GMT
Threads like this leave me completely confused. Bunch of losers who want BioWare to die have no lives and whine about everything in the game, MP included. That should bring you up to speed. It may seem that we're complaining about the game, but we don't hate the game. It's the opposite actually. Our feedback in ME3MP helped make the game better. We're trying to that with this game as well. As long as the dev team is still listening to feedback, isn't it better to have our voice and opinions heard than not? Edit: ninja' by QU67.😀
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2017 23:16:15 GMT
the only part of the game that's still being supported. You truly are a delusional liar.
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Post by RonnieBlastoff on Jul 16, 2017 23:16:57 GMT
Despite constant feedback from requests to buffing guns globally and reducing cross hair bloom Bioware doesn't listen - they just want to do whatever the hell they want. No one is asking them to completely and blindly listen to fan's requests but many feed back have sound reasoning. They did buff a lot of guns and reduced bloom on autos.. Quite confused by this statement. There are a few anomalies like Sandstorm and they still didn't change the shitty charge mechanic, but your example are off. I don't know what biowares deal is with gun buffs and whatnot, but my last issue with this game is assault rifles are still complete garbage. But garbage that imo can be "simply" solved by giving ARs what they had in previous games, (significant) Armor-barrier-shield damage % enhancements. At the moment almost everything is flatline just damage vs enemies, cept a couple weapons with buffs vs shields, but still where are the buffs vs armor? Most of the assault rifles if they had say a 20%-50% damage bonus vs armor-shields-health, they would be awesome. Soned with 30% armor 30% shield damage bonus would actually make it worth using over the hurricane....but my dreams are on hold.
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Post by RonnieBlastoff on Jul 16, 2017 23:24:55 GMT
Bunch of losers who want BioWare to die have no lives and whine about everything in the game, MP included. That should bring you up to speed. It may seem that we're complaining about the game, but we don't hate the game. It's the opposite actually. Our feedback in ME3MP helped make the game better. We're trying to that with this game as well. As long as the dev team is still listening to feedback, isn't it better to have our voice and opinions heard than not? Edit: ninja' by QU67.😀 Dogs attack in packs -/ Observers are now a crazy lazer rave party -/ They added a blaze hydra -/ Just a couple things I've asked and hoped for that they've tossed in. I think BSN has it all wrong though, because the things asked for would make the game "easier" and people would spend less $$ Try asking for something that would screw you over......lol wow... Something along the line of instead of having 3 berserkers spawn, have only 2, but make them fire their flak cannons 2 times as fast and give them shields Come on bioware! Rip me to shreads!
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Post by tatsumaki on Jul 17, 2017 2:06:19 GMT
Despite constant feedback from requests to buffing guns globally and reducing cross hair bloom Bioware doesn't listen - they just want to do whatever the hell they want. No one is asking them to completely and blindly listen to fan's requests but many feed back have sound reasoning. They did buff a lot of guns and reduced bloom on autos.. Quite confused by this statement. There are a few anomalies like Sandstorm and they still didn't change the shitty charge mechanic, but your example are off. And how long did it take them to perform that? I still remember the day I made a scrub video for farming gold - and it was Mike Tyson's punch out basically.
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