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Post by ZaudStorm™ on Jul 16, 2017 18:44:27 GMT
Why? ( i) They would have an additional 7-8 months to polish the game and make it even better than it is now at launch. ( ii) Reviews wouldn't have been soo harsh for a more polished game ( Early 80's maybe?). ( iii) More sales due to better reviews and it being released in the fall. ( iv) Releasing it on * November 7, 2017* would be perfect as it falls on Tuesday which is also the iconic N7 Day. ( v) Wouldn't have to compete with other big AAA open-world games such as Horizon and BOTW. EA said they would have provided BioWare as much time as they needed to, then why did BioWare not delay the game to further polish it? Was EA actually secretly forcing them to release it early or did BioWare just wanted it to get out of the gates asap? Thoughts?
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Post by samhain444 on Jul 16, 2017 18:45:40 GMT
EA needed a game for Q4 Fiscal year so it went out unready...boom
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2017 18:50:31 GMT
None of the people whining about the game months before it came out would have changed their tunes.
None of the pandering "journalists" would have decided against kissing the butts of people who want to see the game fail.
And none of that would have made any difference to the game selling well, no matter how much the above people desperately want to pretend otherwise.
Quit pretending that all of the people devoted to making life hell for BioWare fans and devs would have EVER wanted anything but to make life hell for BioWare fans and devs.
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Post by OdanUrr on Jul 16, 2017 19:05:21 GMT
No can do, EA are releasing Battlefront 2 on November.
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Post by Shinobu on Jul 16, 2017 19:09:29 GMT
People might have been predisposed to be unhappy, but they'd have had a lot less ammunition if the game had been more polished at launch. I had the banter bug for most of my game and it bummed me out. MEA is a good game that suffered tremendously by being launched before it was ready. When you know the haters are waiting to pounce it's not good strategy to put a product out unless it is as pretty and bug free as possible. It's too bad they needed a big release in March.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2017 19:11:40 GMT
People might have been predisposed to be unhappy, but they'd have had a lot less ammunition if the game had been more polished at launch. Yes, because the people who used edited GIFs and whining about how Peebee isn't a sex object to justify their pathetic vendetta against the game surely wouldn't have done that if the game was released a few months later.
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Jul 16, 2017 19:15:53 GMT
None of the people whining about the game months before it came out would have changed their tunes. None of the pandering "journalists" would have decided against kissing the butts of people who want to see the game fail. And none of that would have made any difference to the game selling well, no matter how much the above people desperately want to pretend otherwise. Quit pretending that all of the people devoted to making life hell for BioWare fans and devs would have EVER wanted anything but to make life hell for BioWare fans and devs. These people have been trashing the ME series and the people that like playing it for a very long time. Not sure what motivates them to have such childish spite but it is there. An emotionally and mentally mature person doesn't waste their time on entertainment they don't like but these man babies can't seem to leave Mass Effect alone and let those of us who love the series in peace. They should just shut the hell up and go back to playing their precious Witcher games with their set in stone non customizable protagonist.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Jul 16, 2017 19:20:09 GMT
Is an 8 really that much better then a 7? That's why I hate numbered reviews. That's like the equivalent (in golf) of the difference between shooting an 80 or a 79. It's not going too change the opinion of how good the game is.
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Post by Shinobu on Jul 16, 2017 19:21:17 GMT
People might have been predisposed to be unhappy, but they'd have had a lot less ammunition if the game had been more polished at launch. Yes, because the people who used edited GIFs and whining about how Peebee isn't a sex object to justify their pathetic vendetta against the game surely wouldn't have done that if the game was released a few months later. You seem angry for some reason. The extreme haters were always going to go off on their rants, but if the rest of the game had been polished fewer people would have jumped on the bandwagon. No Bioware game should be released with banter bug.
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Post by Sanunes on Jul 16, 2017 19:24:43 GMT
The only thing that I believe would have changes is the animations, so the majority of the other complaints would have still been in the game.
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Post by samhain444 on Jul 16, 2017 19:30:14 GMT
The biggest misstep, apart from releasing a game that wasn't ready to begin with, was making the Mass Effect trial available through EA Access pre-release. That built up the momentum for the shit-GIFs, click-bait YouTubes and memes. As a result ME:A, was compromised before players had a chance to get into the game.
But, for EA, they had a ton of people pay $2.50-$5.00 for one month of EA Access, they got to fill an empty quarter in their fiscal year for investors, and they can move on. EA's legacy is not tarnished by this because Mass Effect is just another title from one of their subsidiaries. BioWare had a lot more to lose and I'm sure would have preferred to release the game now as opposed to middle of March
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Post by suikoden on Jul 16, 2017 19:31:22 GMT
None of the people whining about the game months before it came out would have changed their tunes. None of the pandering "journalists" would have decided against kissing the butts of people who want to see the game fail. And none of that would have made any difference to the game selling well, no matter how much the above people desperately want to pretend otherwise. Quit pretending that all of the people devoted to making life hell for BioWare fans and devs would have EVER wanted anything but to make life hell for BioWare fans and devs. These people have been trashing the ME series and the people that like playing it for a very long time. Not sure what motivates them to have such childish spite but it is there. An emotionally and mentally mature person doesn't waste their time on entertainment they don't like but these man babies can't seem to leave Mass Effect alone and let those of us who love the series in peace. They should just shut the hell up and go back to playing their precious Witcher games with their set in stone non customizable protagonist. If my favourite sports team has a horrible year thanks to terrible management and coaching - as a fan, I'm going to voice my complaints. I'm not just going to switch teams.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2017 19:32:43 GMT
The biggest misstep, apart from releasing a game that wasn't ready to begin with, was making the Mass Effect trial available through EA Access pre-release. That built up the momentum for the shit-GIFs, click-bait YouTubes and memes. As a result ME:A, was compromised before players had a chance to get into the game. All of that bullshit would have been spouted without the EA Access trial. Don't pretend a bunch of human scum who incited a wave of bullshit against the game over complete lies would have EVER done ANYTHING except lie about the game.
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Post by samhain444 on Jul 16, 2017 19:36:45 GMT
The biggest misstep, apart from releasing a game that wasn't ready to begin with, was making the Mass Effect trial available through EA Access pre-release. That built up the momentum for the shit-GIFs, click-bait YouTubes and memes. As a result ME:A, was compromised before players had a chance to get into the game. All of that bullshit would have been spouted without the EA Access trial. Don't pretend a bunch of human scum who incited a wave of bullshit against the game over complete lies would have EVER done ANYTHING except lie about the game. They would have trashed it the same way people trashed DAI after release but they wouldn't have had the arsenal of memes, GIFs and YouTube vids prior to release. EA was pretty tonedeaf to release it in its unfinished state but I'm sure thry didn't care much as long as the financial boxes were checked
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Post by bigbad on Jul 16, 2017 19:41:19 GMT
None of the people whining about the game months before it came out would have changed their tunes. None of the pandering "journalists" would have decided against kissing the butts of people who want to see the game fail. And none of that would have made any difference to the game selling well, no matter how much the above people desperately want to pretend otherwise. Quit pretending that all of the people devoted to making life hell for BioWare fans and devs would have EVER wanted anything but to make life hell for BioWare fans and devs. Based on many of your comments here, it often seems like you believe that anybody who doesn't think highly of MEA is an anti-Bioware troll with an agenda, but nothing could be further from the truth. Bioware is my favorite developer, and ME is my favorite ever gaming series. I probably have close to 1000 hours on the original trilogy. And yet, I found ME:A to be a disappointing, sub-standard entry into the Mass Effect universe. I didn't hate it, but I certainly didn't think it was great. I would hazard to guess that there are more people like me than there are loud-ass trolls.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2017 19:41:49 GMT
They would have trashed it the same way people trashed DAI after release but they wouldn't have had the arsenal of memes, GIFs and YouTube vids prior to release. EA was pretty tonedeaf to release it in its unfinished state but I'm sure thry didn't care much as long as the financial boxes were checked No one gives a crap about the people who can't stand the fact that DA:I was a major success and hugely popular. Or that ME:A is exactly the same. And no, the same people would have edited GIFs and spouted complete lies just as they had, and don't pretend otherwise. The same people who whine about edited GIFs don't give a crap when Witcher 3 is a glitch-riddled mess on release. Don't pretend that the game was "unfinished" and that's why the developers deserved the harassment and slander they and their game received.
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Post by KaiserShep on Jul 16, 2017 19:43:26 GMT
People might have been predisposed to be unhappy, but they'd have had a lot less ammunition if the game had been more polished at launch. Yes, because the people who used edited GIFs and whining about how Peebee isn't a sex object to justify their pathetic vendetta against the game surely wouldn't have done that if the game was released a few months later. I will say this much: much of the most well known memes of the game wouldn't exist had the game been released even in its 1.09 state. No one would give much of a quad about the "face is tired" gag with Addison had her face not looked so stiff and colorful. That stupid comic with Garrus shooting everything in the face probably wouldn't exist, let alone hold up all that much. This image that everyone knows and loves: This was actually fixed if you can believe it. Basically, the worst of MEA's animation pitfalls have been pretty much patched up, with just some little things here and there that are nothing to write forum about.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2017 19:47:32 GMT
This image that everyone knows and loves: Oh look, a single frame taken out of context makes the character look weird. Which applies to every single game ever made, but other games just don't have a bunch of people who take screenshots just to make the game look bad just to justify threatening and harassing people who made and enjoyed the game. Just imagine how much time they've had to waste just because a bunch of people shamelessly misrepresented their game. A bunch of losers flat-out lied about the animations and visuals by posting out-of-context single frames and blatantly-edited GIFs.
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Post by samhain444 on Jul 16, 2017 19:50:19 GMT
Mass Effect Andromeda was a really good, but not great, game (in my opinion). I think if they delayed it a year they could have tightened the narrative, polished the dialogue and, including the time spent fixing the animations, could have released a great game in the end. More Drack-like story arcs and less Liam-like story arcs plus Peebee speaking less human idioms could have made for a lot of fun
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Post by KaiserShep on Jul 16, 2017 19:50:38 GMT
It's just an example, but was something that permeated throughout the game. I can name numerous instances where the facial expressions can be janked enough to take me out of the scene in the game's original version. Even as one who loves MEA and will defend it to the death, my eyes still work.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2017 19:51:37 GMT
It's just an example, but was something that permeated throughout the game. I can name numerous instances where the facial expressions can be janked enough to take me out of the scene in the game's original version. Even as one who loves MEA and will defend it to the death, my eyes still work. Yeah, people who love a game will stick up for people who lied their asses off about it because they want the people who made and enjoy it to die.
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Post by maximusarael020 on Jul 16, 2017 19:51:41 GMT
Well, I'm not sure about November, but Q1 '17 instead of Q4 '16 would probably have helped. It would have allowed for more polish, meaning the promotional material would have been better (facial animations, backwards gun, bad AI in fiend, etc), so less memes and whatnot, and maybe a more traditional advertising campaign.
I do think that the hate generated by the ME3 endings, the lack of Shep, the move to the Milky Way, and Manveir Heir would still have stuck around and been almost as loud, but in having a good game with good polish, those complaints get drowned out by praise. TW3 launched with some game-breaking, save-corrupting bugs, but was still praised because the basics of animation, gameplay, etc were all working as expected. Given until the end of Q1 '17, MEA would have been in a very similar state, having the good animations we see now, most glitches eliminated, and the Jaal male romance incorporated.
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Post by smilesja on Jul 16, 2017 19:53:39 GMT
I still see people posting that picture on other forums.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2017 19:54:25 GMT
TW3 launched with some game-breaking, save-corrupting bugs, but was still praised because the basics of animation, gameplay, etc were all working as expected. Nah, Witcher 3 got praised because the same pandering hacks who kissed the backsides of the anti-BioWare trolldom also pandered to Witcher 3 fanboys who would have harassed and threatened any reviewer who was rightfully critical of the pile of glitch-riddled poorly-written garbage CDPR shoved out.
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Post by samhain444 on Jul 16, 2017 19:55:24 GMT
Mass Effect Andromeda was a really good, but not great, game (in my opinion). I think if they delayed it a year they could have tightened the narrative, polished the dialogue and, including the time spent fixing the animations, could have released a great game in the end. More Drack-like story arcs and less Liam-like story arcs plus Peebee speaking less human idioms could have made for a lot of fun I actually want more Liam-like arcs. My main reason for loving the Citadel DLC was it reminded me of the days when TV shows had that kind of humor and campy dialogue (Hercules and Xena), and TV could be bearable to watch and worth paying cable for. I loved his companion mission but his character was unfinished...even his mission was a result of an error. I kept waiting for his moment to shine and it never did.
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