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Post by dark8sage on Jul 23, 2017 4:40:52 GMT
Breath of the Wild is a game that takes a series known for complex dungeons, inventive puzzles, and gathering an assortment of tools and weapons to allow you to traverse throughout the world and progress through the game...and abandons that all for tedious fetch-questing to increase your health and stamina, shallow shrines that exist solely to facilitate said fetch-questing, gameplay balance and design that forces you into taking the most monotonous means to defeating enemies every single time, and ultimately making actual dungeons or even the story completely inconsequential in the grand scheme of gameplay. If it didn't have the Zelda name on it, people would actually acknowledge its many, many flaws and imperfections. It is quite literally a game that everyone kisses the backside of just because it breaks away from the established Zelda formula...without caring in the slightest if those changes are actually for the better. Not to mention the fact that the story is really truncated, shallow shit. I wouldn't put it past them to fill the gaps with paid DLC.
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Post by jaegerbane on Jul 23, 2017 9:01:41 GMT
It is a good score, but not for BOTW. That game is like perfection. Sure, the damage to weapons is a tad annoying, but I understand its purpose. It's second only to The Ocarina of Time for Zelda games for me. Plus, where the reviews for MEA were ranged (some in the 90's, others...lower), the reviews for BOTW were overwhelmingly supremely "changing the magnetic pole of the Earth" POSITIVE! And while everyone is assuredly allowed their opinion, in statistics we do this thing called "culling the outliers", which Sterling's review assuredly was. I've said it before, I can see a range of scores for Andromeda. It has it's faults, it has its things some people might not like, that's fine. Zeros and 1's, no, but anything from a 5-10 you can justify if you want. But for BOTW, anything lower than an 8 is just crazy. This isn't a game that got good reviews because it had a female protagonist (I'm not detracting from HZD, before anyone gets that idea. That, too, is a great game) or for any other political or nostalgic or anything reason. BOTW got amazing reviews because it is an amazing game. Period. So him giving it a 7 (clearly just to "differentiate" himself and get more views, which worked!) means that his viewpoints are way off the norm for other video game critics, which either means you have to think in a fairly off-the-map way to trust him as a critic, or that ALL GAME REVIEW SCORES ARE WORTHLESS!! You can take your pick there. I'd disagree on that. Ironically I found Jim Sterling's review of it one of the few out there that accurately mapped to the experience of it. Nintendo is a bit of an exception to the rule when it comes to reviews. Individual games only really get reviewed in comparison to other Nintendo games. This kind of makes sense given how insular Nintendo are but for someone like myself, who isn't really invested in the Zelda brand, coming into a game that was being described as the Second Coming and getting what was a fairly decent open-world fantasy game that whose 'innovations' appeared to be largely caveated by '...to the Zelda series' made me wonder wtf was going on. A lot of what Sterling said chimed with me (I only actually read his review after playing it for a goodly number of hours). A lot of what BOTW was doing were not 'innovations'. Voice acting is not new. Open worlds are not new. Annoying gameplay conceits (like the damn weapons degredation) are not new. It's not like it was even that stable at release (much as sterling pointed out), which given it's a first-party console game is just downright unacceptable... but no, this is Nintendo, they can do no wrong. The fact that he got death threats for having the audacity of not giving Nintendo's latest opus 15/10 pretty much reinforced the feeling that if this game hadn't had anything to do with the Zelda brand (or Nintendo for that matter), it would have been forgettable. Having said all that, it certainly wasn't a bad game, and as Suko (bizarrely I agree with him here, even if he was kidding) said, 7 is a good score. Probably not by Nintendo's standards but that really goes back to the idea that Nintendo games are always reviewed in vacuum, which to many gamers inherently doesn't make sense. But, as I say, I'm really not that bothered about the Zelda franchise itself. I was just told it was gaming perfection and after a while, I found myself wishing I was playing Skyrim.
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Post by Arcian on Jul 23, 2017 14:02:19 GMT
I do wonder how many of these people bought the game - if they did, then ironically it's a commercial success. It's fashionable to beat up Andromeda. Next year's fashionable target: Anthem. Speculating is my skill! K I M N E E D S T H E E X P
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Post by Arcian on Jul 23, 2017 14:08:06 GMT
If you can't joke around with terms deemed "controversial" be the perpetually offended, then I really don't even want to be here. Trust me, this is a good forum. I've seen tons of forums where mods ban people for far less. Like the original BSN. I was banned for someone else's post once in a thread I had never posted in at all, and their response after I contacted them about it was "Well we don't take back bans we've handed out, soooo..." The mods during the last few months of the original BSN were some of the worst I've seen.
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Post by pouf on Jul 23, 2017 14:54:35 GMT
Like the original BSN. I was banned for someone else's post once in a thread I had never posted in at all, and their response after I contacted them about it was "Well we don't take back bans we've handed out, soooo..." The mods during the last few months of the original BSN were some of the worst I've seen. The hilarious thing is that you actually expect us to believe that when you do nothing but troll here.
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Post by Arcian on Jul 23, 2017 16:22:27 GMT
Like the original BSN. I was banned for someone else's post once in a thread I had never posted in at all, and their response after I contacted them about it was "Well we don't take back bans we've handed out, soooo..." The mods during the last few months of the original BSN were some of the worst I've seen. The hilarious thing is that you actually expect us to believe that when you do nothing but troll here. >being this salty
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Post by Guts on Sept 16, 2017 2:25:56 GMT
Careful, we agree on something.
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Post by mannyray on Sept 16, 2017 6:49:22 GMT
Ah yes metacritic user review... the same who gave bloodrayne, an uwe boll movie a good score... yeah www.metacritic.com/movie/bloodrayneUser review of metacritic is no better than any other sites, anybody can creates an account or even multiple of them. As of now, on rotten tomatoes the movie "God's not dead" christian propaganda as a rating of 76%, even if its a shitty propaganda movie : www.rottentomatoes.com/m/gods_not_dead/User review do not mean anything to me at this point. Yeah, I think we're seeing EA taking the raging barbarian minority as truth for backlash against their rpg niche studio, hence why this is the only time I've ever seen a decent but not great game with mixed reception get support pulled so early. No one who doesn't have a learning disability can see that these "reviews" don't give a clear picture either way. Just like here on BSN the most angry irrational detractors either never played the game at all or didn't even clear 2 hours.
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Post by mannyray on Sept 16, 2017 6:51:28 GMT
EDIT: I didn't look at timestamps and was replying to something from about six weeks ago that forum staff had asked we move on from. feel free to delete this post.
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Post by clips7 on Sept 16, 2017 19:41:42 GMT
Haha...this is my first time actually going through those reviews....alot of them are hilarious!... ......haha..again Andromeda wasn't a bad game, but this entry was one of the most criticized and for good reason. The characters and the story was boring...even fans that highly supported this franchise came out and stated the game had issues. From what i've read on this board now is that support for MP has been pulled as well....EA is treating this title like they wished it never existed and that is leading me to believe,..at least at this point that the next Mass Effect game will have nothing to do with Andromeda......the game is toxic. Which is a bit unfortunate, because while i wasn't really big or impressed with Andromeda, the game still deserved to be supported and the next game in the series could improve upon this somewhat of a reboot with a solid group of writers that are up to the task of creating interesting characters and storylines........art direction and design was already stellar throughout the game.
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Post by auu on Sept 17, 2017 5:28:26 GMT
I feel like metacritic scores average out well enough. If you treat all the 0/1s and 10s as binary, disliked it, liked it, then it isn't outrages.
I'd give Andromeda a 0. It's so forgettable that it hurts.
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Post by Guts on Sept 17, 2017 20:31:32 GMT
Haha...this is my first time actually going through those reviews....alot of them are hilarious!... ......haha..again Andromeda wasn't a bad game, but this entry was one of the most criticized and for good reason. The characters and the story was boring...even fans that highly supported this franchise came out and stated the game had issues. From what i've read on this board now is that support for MP has been pulled as well....EA is treating this title like they wished it never existed and that is leading me to believe,..at least at this point that the next Mass Effect game will have nothing to do with Andromeda......the game is toxic. Which is a bit unfortunate, because while i wasn't really big or impressed with Andromeda, the game still deserved to be supported and the next game in the series could improve upon this somewhat of a reboot with a solid group of writers that are up to the task of creating interesting characters and storylines........art direction and design was already stellar throughout the game. Metacritic user reviews for video games in general are hilarious because it's where the vocal minority of the internet goes to cry bloody murder, we can agree to disagree on characters but I do agree that Andromeda was possibly THE most criticized Bioware title. (This is also including their Sonic game that they made with SEGA.)
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Post by griffith82 on Sept 17, 2017 21:13:17 GMT
Haha...this is my first time actually going through those reviews....alot of them are hilarious!... ......haha..again Andromeda wasn't a bad game, but this entry was one of the most criticized and for good reason. The characters and the story was boring...even fans that highly supported this franchise came out and stated the game had issues. From what i've read on this board now is that support for MP has been pulled as well....EA is treating this title like they wished it never existed and that is leading me to believe,..at least at this point that the next Mass Effect game will have nothing to do with Andromeda......the game is toxic. Which is a bit unfortunate, because while i wasn't really big or impressed with Andromeda, the game still deserved to be supported and the next game in the series could improve upon this somewhat of a reboot with a solid group of writers that are up to the task of creating interesting characters and storylines........art direction and design was already stellar throughout the game. Metacritic user reviews for video games in general are hilarious because it's where the vocal minority of the internet goes to cry bloody murder, we can agree to disagree on characters but I do agree that Andromeda was possibly THE most criticized Bioware title. (This is also including their Sonic game that they made with SEGA.) WTF?! Bioware made a Sonic game? *Goes to check* Holy unexpected crap Batman!
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Post by Guts on Sept 18, 2017 4:32:46 GMT
Metacritic user reviews for video games in general are hilarious because it's where the vocal minority of the internet goes to cry bloody murder, we can agree to disagree on characters but I do agree that Andromeda was possibly THE most criticized Bioware title. (This is also including their Sonic game that they made with SEGA.) WTF?! Bioware made a Sonic game? *Goes to check* Holy unexpected crap Batman! Yup, it's reception was generally positive, though it's story seemed to have garnered mixed reception. (Though Andromeda might just be Bioware's most polarizing game)
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Post by Hrulj on Sept 18, 2017 6:32:32 GMT
Andromeda just sucked. Hopefully Bioware will either stop producing the game or move away from SJW's. And if not, we'll see if they can afford another game to tank like this.
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Post by alanc9 on Sept 18, 2017 16:03:53 GMT
Isn't anti-SJW whining better confined to its own threads?
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Post by flyingsquirrel on Sept 19, 2017 17:22:24 GMT
I don't even get where the "SJW" complaint comes from with respect to this game. ME:A has same-sex romance options, humans of different ethnic origins, and times where an alien character is smarter or more honorable compared to a human character...and that differs from previous Mass Effect games how, exactly?
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