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Post by anarchy65 on Jul 22, 2017 20:57:05 GMT
James really redeemed himself on Citadel DLC though
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Post by themikefest on Jul 22, 2017 20:58:52 GMT
my feelings on liara and edi. I agree. I send the asari to Hackett and keep the hologram as a hologram instead of having a platform
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2017 21:03:12 GMT
actually considering all of ME 3. You spend a whole game forging a bond with these people i wonder what the third game will....who are all these people?! Granted James was awesome. James wasn't bad, but I would have preferred an ME2 squadmate instead. I liked James. He wasn't really like any of the previous squad mates, so I wouldn't want to have replaced him directly. I would have liked to have had opportunities to actually utilize the ME2 squad as squad mates on at least one mission each, along with being able to take the other crew like Samantha on a mission each that didn't involve combat. For example, I think it would have been quite cool to do a medical sort of mission with either of the doctors.
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Post by shechinah on Jul 22, 2017 21:09:44 GMT
actually considering all of ME 3. You spend a whole game forging a bond with these people i wonder what the third game will....who are all these people?! Granted James was awesome. I remember fans asking why would Bioware sideline these squadmates from ME2 in ME3, suggesting that they'll all be there on the Normandy come ME3. My guess is that they they didn't have enough ideas for the trilogy to cover ME2. That was honestly kind of on them as the ending to Mass Effect 1 did set up a goal for Shepard to seek to complete in Mass Effect 2: finding a way to stop the Reapers. Mass Effect 2 could have had a plot that helped bridge the story of the first and the last game while still introducing the much-loved companions and their respective missions. It could have been about Shepard recruiting people and making preparations for the Reaper invasion. For fun, here's one of my takes on what I think could have been: instead of being a convenient blueprint conveniently found on Mars, the Crucible could have been found by Shepard after the latter searches far and wide for information left behind in secret by the Protheans for the next cycle. Instead of his pointless plan, Harbinger's plan could have been to gather information through espionage and sabotage Shepard's effort by using indoctrinated agents. As a twist, it could be discovered that Harbinger's true goal was always the Alpha Relay and he was merely pretending to focus on the weapon to make it seem like that was the true threat to the Reapers. In actuality, Harbinger saw the weapon as of no danger because the Alpha Relay would have meant the harvest would have begun long before the weapon could be finished and a threat. Shepard discovers this because of information left by the Protheans that reveal how the Reapers arrived and which relay it was through. The Suicide Mission is Shepard and the crew attempting to destroy the Relay and just narrowly succeeding. Basically, Harbinger would be a shadow villain. Cerberus could be similar to Harbinger in methods but with their own agenda: Instead of destroying it, the Illusive Man would be interested in acquiring the weapon. Miranda would be a squadmate who was initially a spy for the Illusive Man but who changes sides. Additionally, the Shadow Broker could be involved by seeking to acquire the weapon as a way of gaining a deal with Harbinger similar to the one he believes he would have gotten by acquiring Shepard's body. By the end of the game, preparing for the invasion and delaying the Reaper provides enough time to make the construction of the Crucible a possibility as the latter adds more time and the formers increases the odds that they'll be able to construct it during the invasion. Shepard surrenders to the Alliance as a war with the batarians could destabilize the galaxy and undo much of the planning and preparations.
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Post by themikefest on Jul 22, 2017 21:11:27 GMT
like Samantha on a mission each that didn't involve combat. Yep. She could be taken on a comms mission where she tries to get comms up and running while Shepard and squad hold off the uglies or the keystone cops. I did make a suggestion, a few times before MEA was released, that it would be nice to have the crew have loyalty missions or at least taken on a mission that requires their talents. Maybe in the next game. It might happen in a dlc. Don't know
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2017 21:21:17 GMT
like Samantha on a mission each that didn't involve combat. Yep. She could be taken on a comms mission where she tries to get comms up and running while Shepard and squad hold off the uglies or the keystone cops. I did make a suggestion, a few times before MEA was released, that it would be nice to have the crew have loyalty missions or at least taken on a mission that requires their talents. Maybe in the next game. It might happen in a dlc. Don't know Yes, wait and see. I thought ME3 showed some early promise of that happening... with being teamed with Anderson right off the bat; but then they seemed to back away from that approach. The Citadel and Omega DLCs also showed that it was certainly possible. I think the "support" cast of ME:A got a little too large to manage in such a way... but it would have been cool to have had actual side-by-side mission with the other pathfinders, and a separate mission with Reyes or Sloane, a medical mission with Lexi, an engineering adventure with Gil, or even an archaeology mission even with Avela. We did get a little taste of something with Vorn and with following dad through the first Kett facility, but it was pretty minor. Sid could have had more involvement in Vetra's LM as well.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2017 21:33:52 GMT
I remember fans asking why would Bioware sideline these squadmates from ME2 in ME3, suggesting that they'll all be there on the Normandy come ME3. My guess is that they they didn't have enough ideas for the trilogy to cover ME2. That was honestly kind of on them as the ending to Mass Effect 1 did set up a goal for Shepard to seek to complete in Mass Effect 2: finding a way to stop the Reapers. Mass Effect 2 could have had a plot that helped bridge the story of the first and the last game while still introducing the much-loved companions and their respective missions. It could have been about Shepard recruiting people and making preparations for the Reaper invasion. For fun, here's one of my takes on what I think could have been: instead of being a convenient blueprint conveniently found on Mars, the Crucible could have been found by Shepard after the latter searches far and wide for information left behind in secret by the Protheans for the next cycle. Instead of his pointless plan, Harbinger's plan could have been to gather information through espionage and sabotage Shepard's effort by using indoctrinated agents, Basically, a shadow villain. Cerberus could be the same but with a different goal: Instead of destroying it, the Illusive Man would be interested in acquiring the weapon. Miranda would be a squadmate who was initially a spy for the Illusive Man but who changes sides. The Shadow Broker could be after it to sell to Harbinger like he was after Shepard's body. Sounds fun, and a lot better than "ME2: The Character Chronicles". I think killing Shepard was a bad idea and not necessary. Shepard could have worked with Cerberus without being killed and rebuilt. I suppose the Alliance must have granted leave for Dr. Chakwas and Joker to go work for Cerberus? That could have been avoided, lol.
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Post by shechinah on Jul 22, 2017 21:51:10 GMT
Sounds fun, and a lot better than "ME2: The Character Chronicles". I think killing Shepard was a bad idea and not necessary. Shepard could have worked with Cerberus without being killed and rebuilt. I suppose the Alliance must have granted leave for Dr. Chakwas and Joker to go work for Cerberus? That could have been avoided, lol. Thank you. Shepard's death was so unnecessary that Shepard didn't even seem to think it was worth sparing thoughts about. I think that if Shepard needed to be out of commission for the sake of a time skip then I feel it'd be better to put Shepard in a coma.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2017 22:11:40 GMT
Sounds fun, and a lot better than "ME2: The Character Chronicles". I think killing Shepard was a bad idea and not necessary. Shepard could have worked with Cerberus without being killed and rebuilt. I suppose the Alliance must have granted leave for Dr. Chakwas and Joker to go work for Cerberus? That could have been avoided, lol. Thank you. Shepard's death was so unnecessary that Shepard didn't even seem to think it was worth sparing thoughts about. I think that if Shepard needed to be out of commission for the sake of a time skip then I feel it'd be better to put Shepard in a coma. With ME3 I think they should have made it so that the other species were compelled to go to Earth eventually for some reason instead of for no reason. Moving the Citadel could have been part of that. Shepard recruiting allies from the beginning to go to Earth doesn't really make sense. They were defending their own planets and they didn't stop the Reapers with our help there did they? Why would they leave their own planets to help the humans on Earth? The Salarian ambassador said that in the council meeting.
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Post by griffith82 on Jul 22, 2017 22:32:26 GMT
Thank you. Shepard's death was so unnecessary that Shepard didn't even seem to think it was worth sparing thoughts about. I think that if Shepard needed to be out of commission for the sake of a time skip then I feel it'd be better to put Shepard in a coma. With ME3 I think they should have made it so that the other species were compelled to go to Earth eventually for some reason instead of for no reason. Moving the Citadel could have been part of that. Shepard recruiting allies from the beginning to go to Earth doesn't really make sense. They were defending their own planets and they didn't stop the Reapers with our help there did they? Why would they leave their own planets to help the humans on Earth? The Salarian ambassador said that in the council meeting. Because we knew the Reapers would focus on Earth. Even as early as ME2. They considered Shepard a threat and as such would focus on Earth. As the game progresses it becomes clear Earth is their primary target.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2017 22:37:27 GMT
With ME3 I think they should have made it so that the other species were compelled to go to Earth eventually for some reason instead of for no reason. Moving the Citadel could have been part of that. Shepard recruiting allies from the beginning to go to Earth doesn't really make sense. They were defending their own planets and they didn't stop the Reapers with our help there did they? Why would they leave their own planets to help the humans on Earth? The Salarian ambassador said that in the council meeting. Because we knew the Reapers would focus on Earth. Even as early as ME2. They considered Shepard a threat and as such would focus on Earth. As the game progresses it becomes clear Earth is their primary target. I don't see how that's reason enough for the others to go there when they're defending their own planets though.
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Post by griffith82 on Jul 22, 2017 22:40:08 GMT
Because we knew the Reapers would focus on Earth. Even as early as ME2. They considered Shepard a threat and as such would focus on Earth. As the game progresses it becomes clear Earth is their primary target. I don't see how that's reason enough for the others to go there when they're defending their own planets. Adm. Hackett said it himself. The war will be won or lost on Earth. They either could aid us or face extinction. That simple.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2017 22:54:48 GMT
I don't see how that's reason enough for the others to go there when they're defending their own planets. Adm. Hackett said it himself. The war will be won or lost on Earth. They either could aid us or face extinction. That simple. He also said dead Reapers were how we win the war, which isn't entirely true. He was against saving the Rachni too. Hackett saying that doesn't help other species leaving their own planets for Earth make any more sense to me. They've still got no reason to go.
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Post by colfoley on Jul 22, 2017 22:54:50 GMT
my feelings on liara and edi. I agree. I send the asari to Hackett and keep the hologram as a hologram instead of having a platform I'd replace edi with miranda and liara with feron
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2017 22:59:16 GMT
I get what you're saying griffith, I just don't think the writers/devs presented that well enough at all, and could have done a lot better.
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Post by Andrew Lucas on Jul 22, 2017 23:01:57 GMT
"Andromeda is awesome"
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Post by anarchy65 on Jul 22, 2017 23:16:40 GMT
"Andromeda is awesome" * Talks about ME3 * Shows how "awesome" Andromeda is.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2017 23:20:42 GMT
"Andromeda is awesome" * Talks about ME3 * Shows how "awesome" Andromeda is. This place is too boring to visit without troll threads.
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Post by kino on Jul 23, 2017 0:18:09 GMT
"Andromeda is awesome" * Talks about ME3 * Pages 8 and 9, yes. The other 7, not so much.
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Post by shechinah on Jul 23, 2017 0:29:09 GMT
I don't see how that's reason enough for the others to go there when they're defending their own planets. Adm. Hackett said it himself. The war will be won or lost on Earth. They either could aid us or face extinction. That simple. To be honest, I don't see why the war would be won or lost on Earth.
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Post by colfoley on Jul 23, 2017 1:28:23 GMT
"Andromeda is awesome" * Talks about ME3 * Forums should be a place of free ranging conversation, within reason, as long as everyone continues to be nice to one another.
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Post by smilesja on Jul 23, 2017 1:35:56 GMT
"Andromeda is awesome" * Talks about ME3 * Forums should be a place of free ranging conversation, within reason, as long as everyone continues to be nice to one another. That I believe is the difference from the negative threads.
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Post by shechinah on Jul 23, 2017 2:02:07 GMT
"Andromeda is awesome" * Talks about ME3 * That's not unique to this topic: it's actually a rather normal occurrence on the forums from what I've seen.
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Post by smilesja on Jul 23, 2017 3:15:08 GMT
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Post by isaidlunch on Jul 23, 2017 3:59:40 GMT
Adm. Hackett said it himself. The war will be won or lost on Earth. They either could aid us or face extinction. That simple. To be honest, I don't see why the war would be won or lost on Earth. I don't think much of ME3's plot makes sense and I always have to switch off my brain to not get annoyed. We need the Krogan to fight giant space ships? Yeah okay. We need to retake Earth and fight them there? I guess. The Reapers are okay with letting the Citadel off the hook until TIM tells them to come get it? Well, I'm sure they have their reasons. The Geth did nothing wrong and the Quarians are responsible for 99% of Quarians dying? If you say so, Legion. People like to blame ME2 for ruining the story but I think ME3 did just fine ruining it by itself.
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