Why Hack objectives NEED to be reworked in Platinum

You'd be amazed how quickly an incompetent team can become competent simply by farming gold and maxing their manifest to get all the N7 weapons at lvl X.

You don't even need the top tier guns, running with the vanilla avenger X with basic mods is good enough if you work together and play well on characters set up properly. Maxing your manifest of weapons is just icing on the cake when you have four good players working well together.

A large part of your damage against big armored things comes from batarian aoe flak cannon on top of stacked debuffs, the bullets you fire aren't really the important bit overall. If you didn't use your abilities no weapon in this game will really carry you alone.

My beef with objectives isn't that they are too hard, it's that their difficulty is inconsistent. Some hack zones SUCK if you don't use a full team plan, others are manageable with only basic team play and individual sensibility.

It's blatantly wrong to me for average teams to only fail on a select number of a select number of a select number of objective waves that are map specific locations for certain objective types. I can almost solo carry a team on most characters though platinum through any number of boss waves, retrievals, almost any devices, and most hacks/uploads, but if I can't pull the rest of the team together and heavily coordinate with precise detail at a specific few locations on specific maps then I will always fail them on map layout alone.

This does not feel fair, fun, or balanced. No single spot on a map should hold the power to end your game beyond your control so thoroughly. I think they need to be moved, removed, or the map itself remodeled, though it does not take very much to fix a lot of these locations.

For example, Firebase magma. The middle hack by the stairs. clip the zone 2-4 meters back into the wall and stairs so the edges of the zone don't overhang the cover down into the lower area, and don't reach out into the hallway, so the whole zone ends up effectively smaller, with it's boundaries inside the cover square and up to the side piece at the top of the stairs so someone can be in the zone from the top of the stairs shooting down, while enemies who hover at the base of the cover no longer block the zone, and can move around the zone without moving into it.

The only objective zone I think needs to outright be removed is that dreadful one in the raised room of zero, as i can't see a way to make the zone something enemies don't jump into no matter where you stand where it is. But at the same time I think adding one at the lower area from the LZ at the bottom of the stairs lining the duck could be fun and interesting.

lol. Me and im sure a few other people play platinum just for the credits because waiting 2 gold games just to open a reserve pack filled with veteran ranks is already painful as it is. Just because you guys have maxed out URs and always run in stacked teams and extract doesnt mean there arent any problems with the hack. For me, I would just like it if they buffed the cobras so they were actually useful and could kill pesky beserkers lurking in the hack zone

Or u can use it with special ammo to prime targets and use a power to proc explosions. Combine that with an infiltrator's sustained fire skill and take a power efficiency mod with you and you have a decent set of tools. The hurricane is a second choice though, i prefer the rozerad for DPS as you say. The strat works for me in platinum. As does having an avenger to cap hacks. Ways and means to get better weapons so we too can speed run with max manifests like the guys in the vid eventually. Not everybody started playing this game at launch remember. I'm sure its easy to complete a Hack with a Dhan lvl X and 3 other team mates with similar DPS. It still doesn't change the fact that hack has been changed for the worse and is badly designed. Bioware should have added a different kind of objective instead to mix things up a bit. Not ruin an established one.

FYI i used to solo platinum on ME3 with a Drell Infiltrator who had bugger all health or shields. But then that game was programmed far better and didn't have enemies respawning 2cm behind after you killed them. 

All I hear in this thread: "Hey guys, when I play with 3 friends and we all use level 10 urs, we can hold off specific hack locations vs specific enemies. Therefore, the entire rest of the player base should just do what we do instead of complaining."

Are you joking me lol. How about you try playing with randoms? I'm sorry but bioware shouldn't balance the game around the .001% that is you guys. They can make the difficulty harder without having objectives that require cloak. And don't tell me I'm not ready for the difficulty, soloing plat was easy as fuck... as long as I didn't get a hack or upload. Some people are actually talented at this game even though MEA isn't their full time job and they don't have a maxed manifest, and those people deserve a challenge. But impossible hacks aren't a challenge because impossible is impossible; there is nothing one player can do if they're not an infiltrator to beat a hack or upload on platinum.

You should be able use whatever character you want without worrying about auto-fails. Right now for me this game is boring because gold is too easy and I can't play platinum without having to use an infiltrator, which is even more boring.

Why am I not surprised that you were the first to hop on this.  Go away, vegasflash.

A true hero. Alas, he committed forum sudoku because he was too aesthetic.

Um... you didnt watch the video killa just posted? There was 1 infiltrator....in the entire squad...... this is getting boring...

You do no deserve free credits, if you choose to play with randoms on the hardest difficulty setting, accept the mystery meat surprise that comes your way. You can read randoms if you take the time, if there is more than 1 INF and no team debuff characters, dude... your going to lose if you get hack. Yes... you have to plan to have a wave 6 hack in the worst spots and win before you even start the game. Are you really suggesting bioware nuke platinum so people who don't even put on consumables with 300 apex rating and a cyclone II should be able to beat platinum no problemo???

I forget but I think I do remember reading about solo platinum, hmm well infiltrators aren't as great as you guys make them out to be I guess....It really does not make sense you can solo a difficulty but with 3 extra decoys you fail. Hack or not. Yea... I said hack or not, because on bronze hack is the same. Perhaps not so boss pudding, but thats the difference between bronze and platinum.

I work 11hours a day and commute for 1, I play MEAMP about under 16hs per week, if that. I had alot of level V URs. You just are unlucky .. idk. But anyway, there is no 0.001%, there are the guys who played and said, "hey.... wait a minute!" and the guys who instantly came here to complain that the biggest payout in the game wasn't reachable by everyone. Again, hacks are more difficult, do I think bioware made a mistake... pfft yea...at the same time, I choose to overcome rather than back into a corner and hide... god I hate infiltrators now....but lets also not pretend that the hardest hacks have never been beaten by a full squad of people who are NOT infiltrators...thats just being unrealistic. But then...you basically are asking for a handout...

Perhaps playing as an infiltrator has built that mindset... I mean they do basically nothing but put burden on everyone else and get rewarded for it...

omg.....

I said in MOST pug lobbies. You are missing an operative word. Sometimes you get good pug objectives and sometimes those come with good pug players. Sometimes not. It's no secret that PUG games take longer on average than party games.

You have a team like that and you play PUGs? 😜Seriously this is the wisdom from someone who's been through the process of figuring things out. I'd take the advice that the game mode is indeed new and we can all get better. However I'd like to point out two things. 1) Killa and his team are some top players in the game. When he says it's easy, I'd mark it several noctches down for me and my team. In other words, Bioware certainly didn't and shouldn't design the game only for players like them which is obvious. So when someone who's really good but not in a dream team says they have issues with certain aspect of the game, Bioware should listen. 2) if the game is designed to be playable only when you have something like Hurricane X and equally elite gear, then Bioware has a problem. I agree that having elite weapons and gear help with plat games but they're not a must. I have a Hurricane II and completed plat games with it even with hacking objectives. If everyone waits until they have elite stuff to play plat hacking objective games they're going have to wait for a long, long time.

And chances are (just like with ME3 multiplayer) that people will simply stop playing MP as soon as their manifests are maxed because they'll feel like they've 'completed the game' with nothing left to unlock. They'll do a few victory laps with their best high ranking weapons for fun then get bored of horde mode and go back to story mode to try new dialogue paths etc.