Why Hack objectives NEED to be reworked in Platinum

How does having a stealth character that puts burden on non stealthed characters equal success against enemies with 1000s of health and armor?

Your whole plan with thinking you need a stealth character is the reason your having issues. Its not the game... its you.

You guys really somehow believe that hiding from enemies is the best way to win? I'm curious, are you using this same strategy on bronze? Because if so you might be better off playing that difficulty. You win hacks, the same way you win them on bronze-platinum. You kill the enemies. If you can't kill them, you are not using the right character, weapons, strategy, team w/e. Its you, not the game.

Try debuffing the enemies...that means you make them easier to kill. Not hide and cause them to hunt down your teamates... what a crazy plan


You can melt a fully healthed Progenitor in 5 seconds with the right debuffs... but idk, I guess people winning platinum without a full team of stealth have it all wrong while you guys are hiding from the enemies and losing.....

If you do not have a player on your team with Stealth Grid ability, you've pretty much lost the Hack wave. 

The fact that not all characters are viable in Platinum shows there is a balancing error.

Also, if the Hack circle happens to appear near the center of the map, again you have very little chance of winning the Hack wave because no matter what you do or how you try to kite the enemy, they will nearly always take a path through the middle. Therefore the Hack will always get halted.

The best method for completing Hacks on Platinum is with an Asari Huntress or Angaran Avenger. Cloak up and get in the circle, when cloak ends, step out of the circle and re-cloak then jump back in (because nearby enemies will always move to your last seen location). Cloaking outside of the circle means they are less likely to step into it (because your last location was outside of the circle when you pressed cloak).

That said though, the objective is extremely unfair on other characters who cannot cloak. Cobra missiles do not repel bosses like they used to in ME3 so its unlikely you will be able to stand your ground inside the circle. You'd need an entire squad to have N7 weapons unlocked at lvl X and even then there's a good chance you'll still be overwhelmed (i have Rozerad VI and Hurricane III with pistol gear and even with those weapons i can't survive inside the circle without Stealth Grid).

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Tried all that and it doesn't work. Bosses swarm the hack circle and respawn just as fast as you kill them in platinum (usually 2 steps back from where you just killed them). So they're literally on top of the hack point or right on its edge for as long as you have to stand in the circle. On Bronze/Silver/Gold, most folks have enough firepower to brute force their way through the hack timer and simply tank the enemies, destroying them super fast until the objective is complete. On those 3 easier difficulties, we don't get as many boss enemies swarming the circle.

In platinum however, its quite different. On average there are will be 4-5 boss enemies camping the circle at any given time. And Krogan Mercs/Dogs/grenades constantly flushing you out of cover. So yes, the only way at present to ensure you win the hack objective waves is to hide from the enemy while a couple of your team mates try to distract them away from the circle. 

You speak as though you've never even played platinum. Or perhaps you're just trolling.

Your plan to handle boss enemies that have the highest health and dr in the game is to hide...... ........ YOU REALLY DONT SEE AN ISSUE WITH THAT?? You have to kill them, use multiple debuff characters, (not charactes that do mediocre damage and hide) DEBUFF characters to make the platinum enemies with high health and DR easy to kill.

Human Eng
Human Adept
Turian Agent
Batarian Scrapper
Salarian OP
Krogan Gladiator

Just a few characters with AoE multiple enemy debuffs that effect YOUR ENTIRE TEAM. Not a minor stealth grid debuff, not you hiding in a hack while your ally gets raped by 4-5 bosses. DEBUFFS FOR YOUR ENTIRE DAM SQUAD. And large debuffs at that.

Have you ever even seen how much damage reduction multiple debuff characters do? Hell no, you don't even have to answer that, your solution to dealing with platinum is the hide... I already know.... You guys are on the forum to just bitch and complain you aren't getting a handout, am I right ?

Like really what weapons are you using on your infiltrators, oh snap IT DOESNT EVEN FUCKING MATTER because enemies health are so dam high, you NEED a fleet of debuffing characters just to do a wave 6 hack. Yes, did you read that correctly??? Instead of basing your entire gameplan on hiding from the enemies with INF equipped with a bunch of equalizers and sweepers, people who successfully win platinum even on multiple wave 6 hacks in the middle of the dam map know that virtually dropping enemy health is the BEST way to win.

Do you know how much health a progenitor has? lol NOOOOOO because your to busy fucking hiding....

But I can show you, or rather,  the forum you came here to beg for a handout, can.
Armor            Shields
5484.375    20199.375
45900         202500

Lets look at how your weapons put out damage

So even with all your infiltrators combined... how are you going to handle not just 1 pregenitor, but all the other superpumped bosses combined during a hack wave?
Your going to hide? How in the FUCK does that make the problem go away?......Like really


Lets get alittle more insight on debuffs, because I know, theres always that one person

All the information can be found here...

Research
Cryo Beam
Snap Freeze
Invasion
Offensive Biotics (exposure)

Look at how much it debuffs armor/enemies and tell me if your infiltrator squad can match that with just recon and munitions training.... because thats all infiltrators debuffs have to offer any squad. Yes I said squad. But an infiltrator is all me me me me, they usually have no idea what squad means.

Platinum with more than one infiltrator, is usually crap, you don't have enough debuff, and your burdening the rest of your team by hiding. (because unlike solo... enemies will shoot your teamates when you cloak... ) You can test this on any difficulty with 3 INF and one non stealth. The single man out will get dropped, CONSTANTLY. Because your squad is a bunch of me me me selfish cowards.

You guys are right, I never played platinum, at least the way you seem to be. Or rather, I learned to avoid it by using what bioware has handed out as a means to winning.

Killing them is not a problem. It's them respawning literally 2cm away from the hack circle repeatedly that is. Halting the hack every time their toenails graze the circumference. Right now the hack circles in platinum are like Grand Central Station NYC and the hack circle is right in the middle of the train tracks while the trains are the enemies. Even if they're not attacking you they are constantly flowing through the circle, blocking the hack. It's badly designed, just accept it.

You don't even need to watch the entire vid. 11:52-12:00 (7 seconds) look how fast he AND HIS SQUAD drop a blaze hydra...that is at least 59K damage dealt to a single enemy in that time. I would love to see a group of infiltrators doing that.

Thank you killa, I need to get a youtube channel so I can start putting my videos where my mouth is, but you beat me to it.

LMAO! There was no hack objective in that match. They got Upload/Targets/Targets. Plus they're all using Siphon Rozerad and Siphon Hurricanes on PS4 with aim assist xD 

Siphon N7 weapons have the same stats as lvl 10 vanilla N7 weapons + lifesteal. Of course they're tearing stuff up. I'm pretty sure i'd have an easier time of it if my manifest was maxed. But most people's aren't. 

This still doesn't change the fact that Hack objectives are broken as fuck on Platinum thanks to the Hack being halted when enemies simply step into the circle. It's not like Upload where your squad can split up and thin the enemy's flow. They are programmed to camp the Hack circle and respawn almost directly on top of it. It's badly designed. 

Should bioware make it easier? No. But they should change it to something else. Hell even the old 'Protect the President' objectives from ME3 were better than Hack (the one where u had to escort the repair drone). They could have used that instead but called it 'Protect the Informant,' it would be your squad's mission to keep the informant alive and guard him until he could escape.