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Post by DoctorFox on Jul 24, 2017 3:11:21 GMT
First you say i shouldn't be playing platinum without maxed N7 DPS weapons and a debuff class character. So i do it with a Soldier class who has high DPS to compensate for average weapons. Platinum completed full extraction (in pugs). Ok good... You also say i shouldn't be relying on infiltrator/stealth grid classes for hack missions. So i complete hack missions on platinum with those exact classes and collect more credits to help me max my manifest. Again full extraction. ok good again... even thought there are 3 inf on the pic team but good good...I make do with the tools i have and i do it well. So i don't see why ur telling me platinum isn't for me. It can be done without a maxed manifest. Yea So yeah u are talking horse shit and being discouraging for no good reason. ........... My point still stands though - hacks in their current state are not fun or challenging. They're boring and broken since most people (those who do not have maxed manifests) have to follow a certain stealth formula to win. This infiltrator shyt again.... It's safer to take a stealth grid character in pubs just to make certain the hack missions can be won. But should we have to do it every time until our manifests are maxed? I think, you know whats going on here....but you keep bring up infiltrators like they are a positive thing in almost any light in MEAMP... What confuses me is that your saying its safe....as if that is the only means of winning, even with pugs. But people just put in your face that it can be done without relying on infiltrators. But you come here, when your infiltrator plan falls apart because a small, very small % of the time you have to take a hit. Dude, it didn't matter if he was on an "elite" team or not (there are no elites in MEAMP, you guys/gals REALLY need to stop pedestaling people) his squad is using the best of what bioware gave us to win. Do you really not see people playing as an infiltrator IS THE REASON YOU ARE LOSING?? If 2 people are cloaked, who do you think the enemies are going to attack? The 2 not cloaked. Even if everyone is an infiltrator, at some point someone is going to lose cloak and get raped like a subordinate male giraffe. You have no means of taking down 1 boss fast enough to be successfull, you have PLENTY OF INFINITE BOSSES IN PLATINUM... dude, you have to be able to see this, or like you accused me, just trolling... Who the fuck cares about safe if you LOSE... You think hack sucks because your strategy is infiltrator based, yet infiltrators clearly are not built 100% solid for the issue you are having, so you toss shyt at bioware? Ok I hear you again, hacks are crap on platinum, I know this, you know this, everyone knows this. Dude... please, no, no no... you have to put in effort "some" time...This is the only "fun" or should I say challenging part of the game, and you guys are begging to have it watered down to gold+1. If hacks aren't in platinum, it would literally just be "here, have 130K." Dude, bioware is making mistakes for sure, but this isn't one of them. So you're agreeing with me and disagreeing at the same time. I think your troll powers are waning. You make less sense with every post xD
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Post by Scathane on Jul 24, 2017 4:54:07 GMT
All I hear in this thread: "Hey guys, when I play with 3 friends and we all use level 10 urs, we can hold off specific hack locations vs specific enemies. Therefore, the entire rest of the player base should just do what we do instead of complaining." Are you joking me lol. How about you try playing with randoms? I'm sorry but bioware shouldn't balance the game around the .001% that is you guys. They can make the difficulty harder without having objectives that require cloak. And don't tell me I'm not ready for the difficulty, soloing plat was easy as fuck... as long as I didn't get a hack or upload. Some people are actually talented at this game even though MEA isn't their full time job and they don't have a maxed manifest, and those people deserve a challenge. But impossible hacks aren't a challenge because impossible is impossible; there is nothing one player can do if they're not an infiltrator to beat a hack or upload on platinum. You should be able use whatever character you want without worrying about auto-fails. Right now for me this game is boring because gold is too easy and I can't play platinum without having to use an infiltrator, which is even more boring. I don't think BW is building the game around a small portion of the player base. It's not as if Bronze, Silver and Gold matches - as well as daily challenges on those levels - have disappeared since Platinum was introduced. I do think they built Platinum around that small portion of of the player base. I seem to remember one of the devs even said something along the lines of "The majority of the ME player base doesn't play Gold". So, yes, Platinum was probably 1) designed with experienced players with fleshed out manifests in mind 2) designed after reading about those players posting on Reddit & BSN that they wanted a higher difficulty than Gold. You say talented players deserve a challenge? Well if it's really that hard to start on Platinum when you haven't got a large manifest, then there's Gold, is there not? And when you get further along and go Platinum, you may have to take an infiltrator. If you get even further along you can perhaps drop that infiltrator. Personally I don't see the problem for talented players. Any talented player with an APEX of less than 1,000 can max out the Soldier and Infiltrator to 20 (even to XX), not have any UR weapons and play Platinum just fine. Unless I've misunderstood, Killa and Blastoff are talking about team play and UR weapons being a must when you go for tanking Platinum hacks without stealth...
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Post by f3rociouspanda on Jul 24, 2017 7:02:07 GMT
All I hear in this thread: "Hey guys, when I play with 3 friends and we all use level 10 urs, we can hold off specific hack locations vs specific enemies. Therefore, the entire rest of the player base should just do what we do instead of complaining." Are you joking me lol. How about you try playing with randoms? I'm sorry but bioware shouldn't balance the game around the .001% that is you guys. They can make the difficulty harder without having objectives that require cloak. And don't tell me I'm not ready for the difficulty, soloing plat was easy as fuck... as long as I didn't get a hack or upload. Some people are actually talented at this game even though MEA isn't their full time job and they don't have a maxed manifest, and those people deserve a challenge. But impossible hacks aren't a challenge because impossible is impossible; there is nothing one player can do if they're not an infiltrator to beat a hack or upload on platinum. You should be able use whatever character you want without worrying about auto-fails. Right now for me this game is boring because gold is too easy and I can't play platinum without having to use an infiltrator, which is even more boring. I don't think BW is building the game around a small portion of the player base. It's not as if Bronze, Silver and Gold matches - as well as daily challenges on those levels - have disappeared since Platinum was introduced. I do think they built Platinum around that small portion of of the player base. I seem to remember one of the devs even said something along the lines of "The majority of the ME player base doesn't play Gold". So, yes, Platinum was probably 1) designed with experienced players with fleshed out manifests in mind 2) designed after reading about those players posting on Reddit & BSN that they wanted a higher difficulty than Gold. You say talented players deserve a challenge? Well if it's really that hard to start on Platinum when you haven't got a large manifest, then there's Gold, is there not? And when you get further along and go Platinum, you may have to take an infiltrator. If you get even further along you can perhaps drop that infiltrator. Personally I don't see the problem for talented players. Any talented player with an APEX of less than 1,000 can max out the Soldier and Infiltrator to 20 (even to XX), not have any UR weapons and play Platinum just fine. Unless I've misunderstood, Killa and Blastoff are talking about team play and UR weapons being a must when you go for tanking Platinum hacks without stealth... I think you misunderstand me. My issue is not with the difficulty of platinum. Platinum should be harder if anything. My issue is that an infiltrator is required if you want to reliably complete hacks/uploads.
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Post by Scathane on Jul 24, 2017 8:02:56 GMT
I don't think BW is building the game around a small portion of the player base. It's not as if Bronze, Silver and Gold matches - as well as daily challenges on those levels - have disappeared since Platinum was introduced. I do think they built Platinum around that small portion of of the player base. I seem to remember one of the devs even said something along the lines of "The majority of the ME player base doesn't play Gold". So, yes, Platinum was probably 1) designed with experienced players with fleshed out manifests in mind 2) designed after reading about those players posting on Reddit & BSN that they wanted a higher difficulty than Gold. You say talented players deserve a challenge? Well if it's really that hard to start on Platinum when you haven't got a large manifest, then there's Gold, is there not? And when you get further along and go Platinum, you may have to take an infiltrator. If you get even further along you can perhaps drop that infiltrator.Personally I don't see the problem for talented players. Any talented player with an APEX of less than 1,000 can max out the Soldier and Infiltrator to 20 (even to XX), not have any UR weapons and play Platinum just fine. Unless I've misunderstood, Killa and Blastoff are talking about team play and UR weapons being a must when you go for tanking Platinum hacks without stealth... I think you misunderstand me. I don't. I think the bold print above addresses that. Until then, people may loose a Platinum match every now and then, which I think is okay for the hardest difficulty. You may not agree, of course...
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Post by RonnieBlastoff on Jul 24, 2017 10:11:27 GMT
I like to dress up in harley quin outfits at comicon! So you're agreeing with me and disagreeing at the same time. I think your troll powers are waning. You make less sense with every post xD .............................. Ok, its getting smelly so I'll simplify. Yes bioware adding hack change was a shytty choice at the expense of the players, agreed. Without the change to hacks though, platinum would be a handout. Stop using infiltrators, Stop playing with others using infiltrators, start thinking more team survival instead of me me me, and you'll have more success. Even when shyt hits the fan on wave 6 crap hack with pugs.
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Post by f3rociouspanda on Jul 24, 2017 10:27:49 GMT
I think you misunderstand me. I don't. I think the bold print above addresses that. Until then, people may loose a Platinum match every now and then, which I think is okay for the hardest difficulty. You may not agree, of course... I didn't realize you were talking about objectives there. Even if you have a maxed manifest you still can't pug platinum without an infiltrator cause it requires your whole team to be at that insanely high level too. One person cannot hold off a hack with dps alone.
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Post by killabkilledb on Jul 24, 2017 16:18:24 GMT
Game mode is new. People will adjust. But I fully understand the approach to a PUG is more conservative than the approach with a full party. I'll rage gel 5 times during a wave 2 hack if I want because in a party, I know my avenger got me and will get me in the LZ wave 7. I bring the debuffs now in Pugs because 2 teammates usually have stealth. I'll use my gels but if the avenger/stealth doesn't make an effort to revive me, he/she can finish a round and carry or we can wipe. Doesn't bother me. If the team sucks, I'll move on to a new lobby. Not going to be forced to avenger every game in a PUG lobby. Thats not even fun. I'd rather wipe with an asari adept in wave 5 then carry with a cloak every game. You have a team like that and you play PUGs? 😜Seriously this is the wisdom from someone who's been through the process of figuring things out. I'd take the advice that the game mode is indeed new and we can all get better. However I'd like to point out two things. 1) Killa and his team are some top players in the game. When he says it's easy, I'd mark it several noctches down for me and my team. In other words, Bioware certainly didn't and shouldn't design the game only for players like them which is obvious. So when someone who's really good but not in a dream team says they have issues with certain aspect of the game, Bioware should listen. 2) if the game is designed to be playable only when you have something like Hurricane X and equally elite gear, then Bioware has a problem. I agree that having elite weapons and gear help with plat games but they're not a must. I have a Hurricane II and completed plat games with it even with hacking objectives. If everyone waits until they have elite stuff to play plat hacking objective games they're going have to wait for a long, long time. A few of my A-teamers are on the destiny beta, one is playing ME3, one is on final fantasy..a few are burned out etc...so sometimes when I log in no one is on and I want to play a quick game so I pug. I've really just been doing the daily challenges but if a group is on and were are in party I'll play longer. 1) Yes, my team makes the game easier and me better. I do play with very good players. Its how I honed my skill set in gold as well.Even before platinum, playing gold with my friends was like hide and seek. You had to chase after, find and kill enemies as fast as possible, or your teammates would get all the fun. Thats why I play at full throttle and design builds for maximal DPS. Its why I used SPL, why I used, pre 1.08 an annhilationless gladiator. its why I used pull-radius to double throw on the kineticist. To stay competitive with my teammates. 2)The game is not "designed to be playable only when you have something like Hurricane X and equally elite gear". There are 4 difficulty levels. No one is forced to play platinum if they aren't ready for it. But if you want to be able to tank the hardest objective at the hardest difficulty level, yeah, you need a good team and good gear. If you don't have them the problem is with your team, not the hack. So just do the cloak and hide method. I don't know why a team without maximal DPS or without maximal gear/equipments expects to be able to tank the hardest objective on then hardest difficulty level? I really don't understand that mentality. It seems like entitlement.
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Post by gethadept on Jul 24, 2017 16:23:21 GMT
Personally, I do believe Plat Hack needs major adjustment.
Current Hack is acceptable in Gold difficulty.
It`s just too brutal in Platinum. Not impossible by any mean.. but it`s 1700% tougher than other objectives so I would say it needs some adjustments.
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Post by killabkilledb on Jul 24, 2017 16:23:47 GMT
I don't. I think the bold print above addresses that. Until then, people may loose a Platinum match every now and then, which I think is okay for the hardest difficulty. You may not agree, of course... I didn't realize you were talking about objectives there. Even if you have a maxed manifest you still can't pug platinum without an infiltrator cause it requires your whole team to be at that insanely high level too. One person cannot hold off a hack with dps alone. If your team isn't at a high level, then why do you feel you should be able to tank the hardest objective at the hardest difficulty level in a COOP game? Instead of saying its too hard, thank bioware that teams who aren't really ready for platinum hacks can still do them with a cloak. They are graciously letting people farm credits they really aren't good enough to win yet without playing hide n seek.
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Post by killabkilledb on Jul 24, 2017 16:24:58 GMT
Personally, I do believe Plat Hack needs major adjustment. Current Hack is acceptable in Gold difficulty. It`s just too brutal in Platinum. Not impossible by any mean.. but it`s 1700% tougher than other objectives so I would say it needs some adjustments. I would agree there is a disparity between the difficulty in objective types. I would just like to see all platinum games have a mandatory wave 6 hack. I'd be good with boss, uploads, hack every game.
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Post by seductivewizard on Jul 24, 2017 18:01:28 GMT
I don't. I think the bold print above addresses that. Until then, people may loose a Platinum match every now and then, which I think is okay for the hardest difficulty. You may not agree, of course... I didn't realize you were talking about objectives there. Even if you have a maxed manifest you still can't pug platinum without an infiltrator cause it requires your whole team to be at that insanely high level too. One person cannot hold off a hack with dps alone. Befriend the higher skilled pugs you run into (that's what i do). I have about 15 guys on my friend list who are really really good, and another 10 who are really good. Chat about what you're gonna do on objectives. By communicating strategies with them, your squad's collective skill set will improve. Your skill level's gonna be low if all you do is cloak and run around like a fool with random pugs dude.
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Post by seductivewizard on Jul 24, 2017 18:04:50 GMT
You have a team like that and you play PUGs? 😜Seriously this is the wisdom from someone who's been through the process of figuring things out. I'd take the advice that the game mode is indeed new and we can all get better. However I'd like to point out two things. 1) Killa and his team are some top players in the game. When he says it's easy, I'd mark it several noctches down for me and my team. In other words, Bioware certainly didn't and shouldn't design the game only for players like them which is obvious. So when someone who's really good but not in a dream team says they have issues with certain aspect of the game, Bioware should listen. 2) if the game is designed to be playable only when you have something like Hurricane X and equally elite gear, then Bioware has a problem. I agree that having elite weapons and gear help with plat games but they're not a must. I have a Hurricane II and completed plat games with it even with hacking objectives. If everyone waits until they have elite stuff to play plat hacking objective games they're going have to wait for a long, long time. A few of my A-teamers are on the destiny beta, one is playing ME3, one is on final fantasy..a few are burned out etc...so sometimes when I log in no one is on and I want to play a quick game so I pug. I've really just been doing the daily challenges but if a group is on and were are in party I'll play longer. 1) Yes, my team makes the game easier and me better. I do play with very good players. Its how I honed my skill set in gold as well.Even before platinum, playing gold with my friends was like hide and seek. You had to chase after, find and kill enemies as fast as possible, or your teammates would get all the fun. Thats why I play at full throttle and design builds for maximal DPS. Its why I used SPL, why I used, pre 1.08 an annhilationless gladiator. its why I used pull-radius to double throw on the kineticist. To stay competitive with my teammates. 2)The game is not "designed to be playable only when you have something like Hurricane X and equally elite gear". There are 4 difficulty levels. No one is forced to play platinum if they aren't ready for it. But if you want to be able to tank the hardest objective at the hardest difficulty level, yeah, you need a good team and good gear. If you don't have them the problem is with your team, not the hack. So just do the cloak and hide method. I don't know why a team without maximal DPS or without maximal gear/equipments expects to be able to tank the hardest objective on then hardest difficulty level? I really don't understand that mentality. It seems like entitlement. Well said!
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Post by unclemonster on Jul 24, 2017 18:40:21 GMT
I didn't realize you were talking about objectives there. Even if you have a maxed manifest you still can't pug platinum without an infiltrator cause it requires your whole team to be at that insanely high level too. One person cannot hold off a hack with dps alone. Befriend the higher skilled pugs you run into (that's what i do). I have about 15 guys on my friend list who are really really good, and another 10 who are really good. Chat about what you're gonna do on objectives. By communicating strategies with them, your squad's collective skill set will improve. Your skill level's gonna be low if all you do is cloak and run around like a fool with random pugs dude. I don't even know how to respond to this: f3rociouspanda is one of the best (if not THE best) on all platforms...his posted vids speak for themselves. (along with killa, lenny and sparkman)
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Post by RonnieBlastoff on Jul 24, 2017 19:46:28 GMT
Befriend the higher skilled pugs you run into (that's what i do). I have about 15 guys on my friend list who are really really good, and another 10 who are really good. Chat about what you're gonna do on objectives. By communicating strategies with them, your squad's collective skill set will improve. Your skill level's gonna be low if all you do is cloak and run around like a fool with random pugs dude. I don't even know how to respond to this: f3rociouspanda is one of the best (if not THE best) on all platforms...his posted vids speak for themselves. (along with killa, lenny and sparkman) I had no idea that being able to post videos made you the best of something. I'ma post a video of me doing the moonwalk MJ style. on all platforms... dude, the best on PC is a guy named yanush7, simply because he has 95K apex... yea sounds pretty silly doesn't it....
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Post by unclemonster on Jul 24, 2017 20:03:19 GMT
I don't even know how to respond to this: f3rociouspanda is one of the best (if not THE best) on all platforms...his posted vids speak for themselves. (along with killa, lenny and sparkman) I had no idea that being able to post videos made you the best of something. I'ma post a video of me doing the moonwalk MJ style. on all platforms... dude, the best on PC is a guy named yanush7, simply because he has 95K apex... yea sounds pretty silly doesn't it.... C'Mon RonnieBlastoff (and never return) 1. he solo'd the 11 wave mission with the Turian Agent. (video posted) 2. he solo'd platinum with a reegar and scorpion. (video posted) he did both pretty quickly. his skills are obvious if you watched him play. his UR weapons & characters are only mid-level apex means nothing. posting skillful videos of your leet play does prove your skill set. I don't know him or play with him, but the proof is in the videos... How would you judge who is leet?
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Post by RonnieBlastoff on Jul 24, 2017 21:00:04 GMT
I had no idea that being able to post videos made you the best of something. I'ma post a video of me doing the moonwalk MJ style. on all platforms... dude, the best on PC is a guy named yanush7, simply because he has 95K apex... yea sounds pretty silly doesn't it.... C'Mon RonnieBlastoff (and never return) 1. he solo'd the 11 wave mission with the Turian Agent. (video posted) 2. he solo'd platinum with a reegar and scorpion. (video posted) he did both pretty quickly. his skills are obvious if you watched him play. his UR weapons & characters are only mid-level apex means nothing. posting skillful videos of your leet play does prove your skill set. I don't know him or play with him, but the proof is in the videos... How would you judge who is leet? He did all that yet he's here claiming that you can't do platinum without an infiltrator, while there are people posting vids of clearly there being success without one. Soloing on an infiltrator is not soloing, its turning off the enemy offensive... so your basically running around just shooting things that barely shoot at you. Now if he post a video of him doing those things on a human or krogan engineer, I'll give my ultimate respect, but dude, i'm not falling for infiltrator :poop: ! You judge people as leet in a PvE game? You run around shooting bots that do the same thing they do in bronze. There is no elite in mass effect multiplayer, and there never was. Until there is PvP.... oh... the fun.
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Post by killabkilledb on Jul 24, 2017 21:19:40 GMT
C'Mon RonnieBlastoff (and never return) 1. he solo'd the 11 wave mission with the Turian Agent. (video posted) 2. he solo'd platinum with a reegar and scorpion. (video posted) he did both pretty quickly. his skills are obvious if you watched him play. his UR weapons & characters are only mid-level apex means nothing. posting skillful videos of your leet play does prove your skill set. I don't know him or play with him, but the proof is in the videos... How would you judge who is leet? He did all that yet he's here claiming that you can't do platinum without an infiltrator, while there are people posting vids of clearly there being success without one. Soloing on an infiltrator is not soloing, its turning off the enemy offensive... so your basically running around just shooting things that barely shoot at you. Now if he post a video of him doing those things on a human or krogan engineer, I'll give my ultimate respect, but dude, i'm not falling for infiltrator :poop: ! You judge people as leet in a PvE game? You run around shooting bots that do the same thing they do in bronze. There is no elite in mass effect multiplayer, and there never was. Until there is PvP.... oh... the fun. I think there are "elite" level players in this game but I think the overall skill needed to master this game is generally low. Meaning almost everyone should become elite with some practice but somehow that is not the case. I don't know how. It doesn't seem very difficult to master this game and become extremely good at oit. Not sure why so many people at 15K apex haven't done it yet. I think you hit the nail on the head when you point but that people play too defensively. People need to up their aggression. A dead enemy can't kill you. Just go kill it. The game is harder when you aren't aggressive...
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Post by jadedragonmtr on Jul 24, 2017 21:45:18 GMT
C'Mon RonnieBlastoff (and never return) 1. he solo'd the 11 wave mission with the Turian Agent. (video posted) 2. he solo'd platinum with a reegar and scorpion. (video posted) he did both pretty quickly. his skills are obvious if you watched him play. his UR weapons & characters are only mid-level apex means nothing. posting skillful videos of your leet play does prove your skill set. I don't know him or play with him, but the proof is in the videos... How would you judge who is leet? He did all that yet he's here claiming that you can't do platinum without an infiltrator, while there are people posting vids of clearly there being success without one. Soloing on an infiltrator is not soloing, its turning off the enemy offensive... so your basically running around just shooting things that barely shoot at you. Now if he post a video of him doing those things on a human or krogan engineer, I'll give my ultimate respect, but dude, i'm not falling for infiltrator :poop: ! You judge people as leet in a PvE game? You run around shooting bots that do the same thing they do in bronze. There is no elite in mass effect multiplayer, and there never was. Until there is PvP.... oh... the fun. So there're no elite players in PvE at all? I'm not talking about someone's apex rating.
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Post by akots on Jul 24, 2017 22:36:23 GMT
Personally, I do believe Plat Hack needs major adjustment. Current Hack is acceptable in Gold difficulty. It`s just too brutal in Platinum. Not impossible by any mean.. but it`s 1700% tougher than other objectives so I would say it needs some adjustments. Now, wait right here. Would you take current state of platinum hacks with sync kills essentially turned off on all difficulties? Or you'd go back to having sync kills everywhere and get this hack nerfed into previous relatively easy mode? Or, wait, no, you want no sync kills and this hack fixed. Hm, that actually might be super-duper nice, not sure if they'll do it, probably worth a try asking but highly unlikely IMO. I simply see it as a bargain from BW side. For me, personally, current hack without sync kills is better. Sync kills in this game, especially by fiend, are largely not preventable. You cannot do anything to stop it. Now, in this meta, you can just dance a dance with the cursed creature and gel yourself if needed even in the case of bad lag. You can even gel normally after being hugged by an ascendant if you bother to ops-pack at the last moment or play some durable character. The hack is difficult, maybe excessively so, but it can be done, it is something that is preventable, possible to fight against, gives a good chance unlike them silly sync kills. I see it that way from Billy's side of the fence. IMHO, it might just stay as it is now, it is not a bad outcome, just a minor annoyance.
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Post by akots on Jul 24, 2017 22:45:21 GMT
So there're no elite players in PvE at all? I'm not talking about someone's apex rating. Oh, there were some spectre groups in ME3 or whatever and then premium spectres and then some other kind of thunderdome-based bs whatever spectres and Faster-Than-DSL group when you had to beat him to get there, all kind of crap, it never really worked. So, largely, no, I don't think there is such a thing as elite PvE player. From my scrubby point of view, if you use consumables, do the objectives, revive and genuinely try to help others during the match, you are the elitest of the elite. Is Jallard an elite player? I'd say yes. He could solo bronze after playing for about two months at the age of 69 with Turian Sentinel. IIRC, we even extracted on gold a few times with him. I'd value this way higher than 15-minute platinum solo with GI. Pwet is elitest of the elite, just for trying and trying and failing a million times and finally it worked. I know, I can't do it, cannot even imagine how hard it must have been.
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Post by RonnieBlastoff on Jul 24, 2017 23:01:11 GMT
He did all that yet he's here claiming that you can't do platinum without an infiltrator, while there are people posting vids of clearly there being success without one. Soloing on an infiltrator is not soloing, its turning off the enemy offensive... so your basically running around just shooting things that barely shoot at you. Now if he post a video of him doing those things on a human or krogan engineer, I'll give my ultimate respect, but dude, i'm not falling for infiltrator :poop: ! You judge people as leet in a PvE game? You run around shooting bots that do the same thing they do in bronze. There is no elite in mass effect multiplayer, and there never was. Until there is PvP.... oh... the fun. I think there are "elite" level players in this game but I think the overall skill needed to master this game is generally low. Meaning almost everyone should become elite with some practice but somehow that is not the case. I don't know how. It doesn't seem very difficult to master this game and become extremely good at oit. Not sure why so many people at 15K apex haven't done it yet. I think you hit the nail on the head when you point but that people play too defensively. People need to up their aggression. A dead enemy can't kill you. Just go kill it. The game is harder when you aren't aggressive... Its funny how you put into words what I'm trying to much more "friendly." But yes this is exactly my point. Mass Effect Multiplayer, (even 3) didn't and still doesn't require much effort to win. Mass effect in general is a singleplayer role playing game. The "intensity" of the game is in the story and its delivery. Not so much how many times you have to land a headshot or you die. I notice more players who have played competitive shooters have that "good or elite" charm about them, but this is a given since they are used to playing against enemies aren't repetitive and predictable. But no, I don't believe MEAMP in anyway has elite players, that would mean I see the game as challenging to where not anyone can accomplish what the next person does. Now yes, there are some who get the job done more effectively than others, but, no, I can't ever say this person is better than that person. Unless they are Morgan Freeman... no one can match that narrator art.... I can only ask, what makes a player more elite in MEAMP that another player, simply can not EVER accomplish? In MEAMP you have a "set" enemy that always does the same exact things all the time. There is nothing to adapt to beyond what they already know. The ceiling in MEAMP is to low to be anything beyond knotting your shoelaces. Just some people lace them alittle faster. Is that really elite? The fastest shoe lacer?
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Post by Darks1te on Jul 25, 2017 4:16:56 GMT
So you're agreeing with me and disagreeing at the same time. I think your troll powers are waning. You make less sense with every post xD .............................. Ok, its getting smelly so I'll simplify. Yes bioware adding hack change was a shytty choice at the expense of the players, agreed. Without the change to hacks though, platinum would be a handout. Stop using infiltrators, Stop playing with others using infiltrators, start thinking more team survival instead of me me me, and you'll have more success. Even when shyt hits the fan on wave 6 crap hack with pugs.
You have absolutly no clue about what your are talking. Just tell me - how many times u played infi yourself on platinum?
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Post by JulianVerse on Jul 25, 2017 4:50:06 GMT
Wave 6 hack. 2 adepts stayed in the hack, the other 2 were on the other side of the map. We probably would have barely missed it, but with about 90 seconds left I told the other guys we needed some help and they came over and we camped out the last ~50%. edit: it's a pug, too.
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Post by JulianVerse on Jul 25, 2017 5:02:52 GMT
It helps that it was the go for the eyes apex mission. I also use a hurricane I and finally picked up an eagle II yesterday. Who needs a maxed manifest?
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