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Post by SofNascimento on Jul 27, 2017 23:57:56 GMT
But, you know, Jason said that "sources familiar with Bioware's plans" told him that the game was a financial failure and a flop and is dead and everyone who ever worked on Mass Effect was taken out back Old Yeller style. Who are you going to believe, Jason and his anonymous sources that totally aren't made up, or an EA investor's call? Checkmate, atheists. It's funny how the narrative gets lost in time, or maybe you were just being extra sarcastic. Schreier never claimed any source told him Andromeda was a comercial failure. Indeed, his articles paints a picture in which EA axed Mass Effect very soon after its reception. Sales weren't even mentioned is his articles. Moreover, although my financial understading is nonexistent, my impression is that Andromeda inscreased EA's revanue compared to the same period last year. Which begs the question what games were released last year in the same period? I honestly don't remember. |
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Post by smilesja on Jul 28, 2017 0:00:12 GMT
He did this in the past and now with Bioware/Mass Effect and i am sure he will do so again in the future. Unfortunately people tend to forget those kind of things. Now if only Bioware announced DLC already, that would indeed be the last nail in his coffin.  His article was actually pretty tame and even focused on positives, quoting EA on how they were happy with how Bioware was treating the game. I'm not sure why everyone seems to think he's this horrible villain that wants the series to die a la Fluffy/Pouf. You can't even really blame him for that screenshot he took of the rabble on this forum based on the reception to his work prior. No, I can blame him. What he did was very unprofessional and childish and made, even more, people question his article. |
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Post by kino on Jul 28, 2017 0:03:47 GMT
No, I can blame him. What he did was very unprofessional and childish and made, even more, people question his article. Yeah, I, too, can completely blame him. That shit with the Twitter posts was, and still is, shit. My feeling is, if he has something to say to the forum members he can create an account and start a discussion. But ghosting the forum so he can post screenshots to his Twitter feed? Nah. I have no respect for that. |
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Post by smilesja on Jul 28, 2017 0:06:19 GMT
Speaks of cowardice too.
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Post by warrior on Jul 28, 2017 0:07:30 GMT
I guess now I have a little HOPE  unless I'm misunderstanding something. granted I haven't read most of this thread, where I assume people are arguing about it. |
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jul 28, 2017 0:08:24 GMT
No, I can blame him. What he did was very unprofessional and childish and made, even more, people question his article. Yeah, I, too, can completely blame him. That shit with the Twitter posts was, and still is, shit. My feeling is, if he has something to say to the forum members he can create an account and start a discussion. But ghosting the forum so he can post screenshots to his Twitter feed? Nah. I have no respect for that. Indeed |
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Post by smilesja on Jul 28, 2017 0:08:54 GMT
I guess now I have a little HOPE unless I'm misunderstanding something. granted I haven't read most of this thread, where I assume people are arguing about it. It's getting off-topic...... |
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Post by maximusarael020 on Jul 28, 2017 0:16:18 GMT
Oh, did DLC get announced? Did EA dispute any of what he wrote? In the meantime, Jason's book has an actual release date. Maybe we can make it a race over which comes out first, his book, or a DLC announcement.  I'm guessing they haven't responded to Jason's article because he's so far below their caring that they felt if they responded to him then they'd have to respond to every two-bit game blogger about their crock-pot theories. Secondly, you realize that you've always stated your goal is to spread the truth on this forum. Now if that is to remain true you will at least have to admit that EA see MEA as a financial success. Grown driven by MEA sales, MEA being a significant contributor to the increase in live service revenue, higher Q1 sales driven by MEA... All points to a successful game launch. They didn't ignore MEA, as you posted earlier. They PRAISED it. |
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Post by suikoden on Jul 28, 2017 0:24:38 GMT
His article was actually pretty tame and even focused on positives, quoting EA on how they were happy with how Bioware was treating the game. I'm not sure why everyone seems to think he's this horrible villain that wants the series to die a la Fluffy/Pouf. You can't even really blame him for that screenshot he took of the rabble on this forum based on the reception to his work prior. No, I can blame him. What he did was very unprofessional and childish and made, even more, people question his article. Well then he's just like most people in this forum. That's why the first forum shut down after all. Also, It's not like anyone treated him any differently before that happened. |
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Post by smilesja on Jul 28, 2017 0:26:44 GMT
No, I can blame him. What he did was very unprofessional and childish and made, even more, people question his article. That's why the first forum shut down after all. Also, It's not like anyone treated him any differently before that happened. People looked at his article with skepticism and he can't that apparently. |
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Post by suikoden on Jul 28, 2017 0:29:26 GMT
Oh, did DLC get announced? Did EA dispute any of what he wrote? In the meantime, Jason's book has an actual release date. Maybe we can make it a race over which comes out first, his book, or a DLC announcement. I'm guessing they haven't responded to Jason's article because he's so far below their caring that they felt if they responded to him then they'd have to respond to every two-bit game blogger about their crock-pot theories. Secondly, you realize that you've always stated your goal is to spread the truth on this forum. Now if that is to remain true you will at least have to admit that EA see MEA as a financial success. Grown driven by MEA sales, MEA being a significant contributor to the increase in live service revenue, higher Q1 sales driven by MEA... All points to a successful game launch. They didn't ignore MEA, as you posted earlier. They PRAISED it. They released zero Andromeda specific numbers, and lumped Andromeda in with other games to pad it's stats, so to speak. It's not like the game didn't sell anything - it's obviously going to drive sales. This is basically the opposite of the argument that many of you make when speculating sales "EA hasn't released any numbers! This means nothing! Speculation!" All I see is zero DLC. |
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Post by suikoden on Jul 28, 2017 0:30:56 GMT
Well then he's just like most people in this forum. That's why the first forum shut down after all. Also, It's not like anyone treated him any differently before that happened. People looked at his article with skepticism and he can't that apparently. That's like framing the insults hurled at detractors as "skepticism" - laughable. |
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Post by maximusarael020 on Jul 28, 2017 0:36:28 GMT
I'm guessing they haven't responded to Jason's article because he's so far below their caring that they felt if they responded to him then they'd have to respond to every two-bit game blogger about their crock-pot theories. Secondly, you realize that you've always stated your goal is to spread the truth on this forum. Now if that is to remain true you will at least have to admit that EA see MEA as a financial success. Grown driven by MEA sales, MEA being a significant contributor to the increase in live service revenue, higher Q1 sales driven by MEA... All points to a successful game launch. They didn't ignore MEA, as you posted earlier. They PRAISED it. They released zero Andromeda specific numbers, and lumped Andromeda in with other games to pad it's stats, so to speak. It's not like the game didn't sell anything - it's obviously going to drive sales. This is basically the opposite of the argument that many of you make when speculating sales "EA hasn't released any numbers! This means nothing! Speculation!" All I see is zero DLC. Ah, so if they ignore it, that's bad. If they mention it, that's bad. If they praise it specifically, that's bad... So the only way to show EA did well is to release the specific numbers, drive them to your house, and show you Ed McMahon style? Answer me this: were there ANY game specific numbers in the earnings call? |
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Post by smilesja on Jul 28, 2017 0:36:45 GMT
People looked at his article with skepticism and he can't that apparently. That's like framing the insults hurled at detractors as "skepticism" - laughable. There were insults sure, but overall people looked at the article with skepticism. |
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Post by griffith82 on Jul 28, 2017 0:43:47 GMT
They released zero Andromeda specific numbers, and lumped Andromeda in with other games to pad it's stats, so to speak. It's not like the game didn't sell anything - it's obviously going to drive sales. This is basically the opposite of the argument that many of you make when speculating sales "EA hasn't released any numbers! This means nothing! Speculation!" All I see is zero DLC. Ah, so if they ignore it, that's bad. If they mention it, that's bad. If they praise it specifically, that's bad... So the only way to show EA did well is to release the specific numbers, drive them to your house, and show you Ed McMahon style? Answer me this: were there ANY game specific numbers in the earnings call? Damned if you do damned if you don't. |
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Post by bshep on Jul 28, 2017 0:45:40 GMT
But, you know, Jason said that "sources familiar with Bioware's plans" told him that the game was a financial failure and a flop and is dead and everyone who ever worked on Mass Effect was taken out back Old Yeller style. Who are you going to believe, Jason and his anonymous sources that totally aren't made up, or an EA investor's call? Checkmate, atheists. It's funny how the narrative gets lost in time, or maybe you were just being extra sarcastic. Schreier never claimed any source told him Andromeda was a comercial failure. Indeed, his articles paints a picture in which EA axed Mass Effect very soon after its reception. Sales weren't even mentioned is his articles. Moreover, although my financial understading is nonexistent, my impression is that Andromeda inscreased EA's revanue compared to the same period last year. Which begs the question what games were released last year in the same period? I honestly don't remember. Don't know. Tried looking at EA site but whoever organized the place had no idea about the release dates of their own games, for instance it list MEA as a past year release.  |
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Post by Hrungr on Jul 28, 2017 0:47:02 GMT
I wonder when the Q&A will be hosted up. The transcript? Good question. I'd say probably tomorrow would be the earliest I'd expect it...wait, their business day doesn't end for another couple of hours. I guess it could go up today if they're quick about it. I just listened to the Q&A and Mass Effect isn't mentioned. Most of it centered around the sports franchises, Battlefield, and Battlefront. |
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Post by fatherjerusalem on Jul 28, 2017 0:49:17 GMT
No, I can blame him. What he did was very unprofessional and childish and made, even more, people question his article.
Well then he's just like most people in this forum. That's why the first forum shut down after all. Also, It's not like anyone treated him any differently before that happened. Most people in this forum are professional gaming journalists who post screenshots including personal information of people who disagree with them onto twitter, mocking them and making them a target for thousands of twitter followers? |
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Post by pouf on Jul 28, 2017 0:52:02 GMT
lumped Andromeda in with other games to pad it's stats Explicitly noted Andromeda as a "significant contributer" to their sales figures. " Significant contributer". Lumped in. This is the point where, in a cartoon, there would be a visible trickle of melted brain running out of your ear. In comparison, the day the DLC is announced would be explosive torrents that'd put a Blastoise to shame. |
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jul 28, 2017 0:52:28 GMT
A DLC quickly announced then released in August would contribute to strong evidence. I would not be surprised if this Monday they announce a dlc to be released the following day on Tuesday. I know. Its wishful thinking. I remember when they announced Jaws. It was the day before release. About 4 months after DAI released. Its been over 4 months now since MEA was released. Anyways. Just a guess. It would be a good way to start the month of August If you are right, that's be interesting since that would fall exactly on the date calculated given all of the other first big DLCs(excluding Day 1) for the recent Bioware games. |
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Post by fatherjerusalem on Jul 28, 2017 0:55:33 GMT
I'm guessing they haven't responded to Jason's article because he's so far below their caring that they felt if they responded to him then they'd have to respond to every two-bit game blogger about their crock-pot theories. Secondly, you realize that you've always stated your goal is to spread the truth on this forum. Now if that is to remain true you will at least have to admit that EA see MEA as a financial success. Grown driven by MEA sales, MEA being a significant contributor to the increase in live service revenue, higher Q1 sales driven by MEA... All points to a successful game launch. They didn't ignore MEA, as you posted earlier. They PRAISED it. They released zero Andromeda specific numbers, and lumped Andromeda in with other games to pad it's stats, so to speak. It's not like the game didn't sell anything - it's obviously going to drive sales. This is basically the opposite of the argument that many of you make when speculating sales "EA hasn't released any numbers! This means nothing! Speculation!" All I see is zero DLC.   Specifically calling out Andromeda for "driving" sales above last year's, and specifically mentioning that it's a "significant contributor" to digital sales is now classified as "lumped Andromeda in with other games to pad it's stats"? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2017 0:57:01 GMT
It's funny how the narrative gets lost in time, or maybe you were just being extra sarcastic. Schreier never claimed any source told him Andromeda was a comercial failure. Indeed, his articles paints a picture in which EA axed Mass Effect very soon after its reception. Sales weren't even mentioned is his articles. Moreover, although my financial understading is nonexistent, my impression is that Andromeda inscreased EA's revanue compared to the same period last year. Which begs the question what games were released last year in the same period? I honestly don't remember. Don't know. Tried looking at EA site but whoever organized the place had no idea about the release dates of their own games, for instance it list MEA as a past year release. Technically, it was... since it was released near the very end of their 4th Quarter of the past fiscal year (which ended March 31, 2017). |
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Post by OdanUrr on Jul 28, 2017 0:58:06 GMT
I never said it sold poorly, just that it may not have sold what EA expected. If it sold 3.5 million that is not bad and is really good, but if they were expecting 5 million then while 3.5m is good, it still wasnt what they projected. So in regards to DLC, if they were going off the assumption that it would make 5m and budget DLC based off that revenue, then it completely changes things if it only sold 3.5mil But it is nice for them to mention MEA but that still brings us back to square one which is....when/where is the DLC? The only mention I saw of really big numbers was for a full year to have five million or six million in sales and even then those might be projections and not expectations. The 5m were expected sales, not projected, at least according to Aaryn Flynn, as reported by this article: Edmonton's BioWare uses upcoming release of Mass Effect: Andromeda to push for industry tax credits |
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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on Jul 28, 2017 1:18:22 GMT
But, you know, Jason said that "sources familiar with Bioware's plans" told him that the game was a financial failure and a flop and is dead and everyone who ever worked on Mass Effect was taken out back Old Yeller style. Who are you going to believe, Jason and his anonymous sources that totally aren't made up, or an EA investor's call? Checkmate, atheists. Ah, this Jason is another one of those loathly rapscallions, infecting the honest hearts of Mass Effect fans with fear solely for their own selfish gains! I cast a malison upon thee! Into the oven with this corrupt knave! *Shakes fist* |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2017 1:30:18 GMT
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