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Post by griffith82 on Jul 27, 2017 17:41:12 GMT
Sure, go for it. Fire up your copy of version 1.09 and do some captures. I'll start you off: Tis one of the annoying parts about them doing their patching efforts. I wanna do new PTs to see the new stuff. That conversation between Addison and Ryder looks amazing...aside from the awkward facepalm. It does look good. Just like the new Tempest reveal. Reminds me how I felt in this scene.
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Jul 27, 2017 18:14:12 GMT
Nothing to worry about. Same old, same old. This is the norm now for EA games: EA releases games in a Beta state as the retail version of said game. Then they use the mass public to debug and patch said game to acceptable standards. That's weird, they never properly fixed ME3's gamebreaking ending bug. No. This is the EA standard since EA went mainly to online distribution -2013. Which fits with ME3 since it was an "on disk" game for the first year or so and then went online distribution about a year later.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jul 27, 2017 20:27:03 GMT
Tis one of the annoying parts about them doing their patching efforts. I wanna do new PTs to see the new stuff. That conversation between Addison and Ryder looks amazing...aside from the awkward facepalm. It does look good. Just like the new Tempest reveal. Reminds me how I felt in this scene. yeah the Tempest's reveal is a lot like the new Normandy's now. The ydid a great job reworking it. Saw the nwe reveqal for the first time on my Natalie's playthrough and it was brilliant.
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Post by lilyenachaos on Jul 27, 2017 20:32:23 GMT
It does look good. Just like the new Tempest reveal. Reminds me how I felt in this scene. yeah the Tempest's reveal is a lot like the new Normandy's now. The ydid a great job reworking it. Saw the nwe reveqal for the first time on my Natalie's playthrough and it was brilliant. I didn't even click on the video, but I've got the music from the SR-2 reveal playing in my head now.
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It may be just me. But I just can't thank or praise someone for bringing something to the condition it should have been in when I purchased it. It would be like me buying a car that I have to keep taking back to the dealership for maintenance, and then thanking and praising them when they finally get my car to a state where I can drive it hassle free.
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Post by colfoley on Jul 27, 2017 20:50:23 GMT
It may be just me. But I just can't thank or praise someone for bringing something to the condition it should have been in when I purchased it. It would be like me buying a car that I have to keep taking back to the dealership for maintenance, and then thanking and praising them when they finally get my car to a state where I can drive it hassle free. a video game is also not a car.
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Post by cypherj on Jul 27, 2017 20:59:51 GMT
It may be just me. But I just can't thank or praise someone for bringing something to the condition it should have been in when I purchased it. It would be like me buying a car that I have to keep taking back to the dealership for maintenance, and then thanking and praising them when they finally get my car to a state where I can drive it hassle free. a video game is also not a car. It doesn't matter the value, the principle is the same. If someone sells me something they know to be unfinished, and EA knew what condition the game was in when they put it out. I'm not going to thank them months later for bringing it to the point it should have been in when they sold it. If everyone acts like it's fine, what is to stop them from doing it again?
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Post by outlaw1109 on Jul 27, 2017 21:33:00 GMT
a video game is also not a car. It doesn't matter the value, the principle is the same. If someone sells me something they know to be unfinished, and EA knew what condition the game was in when they put it out. I'm not going to thank them months later for bringing it to the point it should have been in when they sold it. If everyone acts like it's fine, what is to stop them from doing it again? You're barking up the wrong tree here. I made similar points earlier in this thread just to have my posts misquoted and ultimately disregarded. There are a certain group of people here that believe Andromeda is without a flaw despite the fact that there are numerous videos of game breaking bugs on Youtube...they will argue that other games are released in a similar state and it's okay that Andromeda was released like this. As soon as you speak negatively about it, even if you enjoyed the game overall, these people will jump to defend the game. As if criticizing the game for any of it's faults is blasphemy instead of admitting the game had faults.
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Post by maximusarael020 on Jul 27, 2017 21:51:32 GMT
a video game is also not a car. It doesn't matter the value, the principle is the same. If someone sells me something they know to be unfinished, and EA knew what condition the game was in when they put it out. I'm not going to thank them months later for bringing it to the point it should have been in when they sold it. If everyone acts like it's fine, what is to stop them from doing it again? While this is ultimately true that games SHOULD be released without glitches or bugs, that's not how the industry works at all. It's common practice for EVERY AAA publisher to release a game and then do patches. TW3 had game-breaking and save-corrupting bugs, HZD had animation and clipping issues, etc. That's just the state of the industry. Is that shameful? Probably. But with people wanting bigger and more complex games, removing every glitch would take years after the game was finished, all they'd have to charge $120 per game (just a guess). Did MEA launch with more bugs than some games? Sure. Did it launch with less bugs than many others? Assuredly. But some games launch with bugs that just never get addressed. Many games get much less support post-launch than MEA. THAT'S why we are thankful. Because they already had our money. There's no real reason they would have to patch it as far as they have. They did it for us (and for their reputation, too).
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Post by cypherj on Jul 27, 2017 22:02:33 GMT
It doesn't matter the value, the principle is the same. If someone sells me something they know to be unfinished, and EA knew what condition the game was in when they put it out. I'm not going to thank them months later for bringing it to the point it should have been in when they sold it. If everyone acts like it's fine, what is to stop them from doing it again? While this is ultimately true that games SHOULD be released without glitches or bugs, that's not how the industry works at all. It's common practice for EVERY AAA publisher to release a game and then do patches. TW3 had game-breaking and save-corrupting bugs, HZD had animation and clipping issues, etc. That's just the state of the industry. Is that shameful? Probably. But with people wanting bigger and more complex games, removing every glitch would take years after the game was finished, all they'd have to charge $120 per game (just a guess). Did MEA launch with more bugs than some games? Sure. Did it launch with less bugs than many others? Assuredly. But some games launch with bugs that just never get addressed. Many games get much less support post-launch than MEA. THAT'S why we are thankful. Because they already had our money. There's no real reason they would have to patch it as far as they have. They did it for us (and for their reputation, too). Only AAA game I've played in recent memory that came out worse than ME:A was Arkham City, and they refunded players. You can't just chalk all Andromeda's issues up to normal day one bugs.
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Post by colfoley on Jul 27, 2017 23:13:00 GMT
a video game is also not a car. It doesn't matter the value, the principle is the same. If someone sells me something they know to be unfinished, and EA knew what condition the game was in when they put it out. I'm not going to thank them months later for bringing it to the point it should have been in when they sold it. If everyone acts like it's fine, what is to stop them from doing it again? you miss my point it's not a matter of value its one of complexity. And designing a game, ie an entire brand new fictional world from scratch, is an entirely different proposition then building a car. Even then most cars even the brand new ones have their quirks and flaws and differences. Some are known for their great ACs while others are known for transmissions. And the quality of the car depends greatly on the hardware (the road) the car is being driven on. Furthermore whether it's a flaw with a game or a car both go through patching...and what is the alternative? To drive a defective car or play a defective game?
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Post by vonuber on Jul 27, 2017 23:21:54 GMT
Has to be said, things like this should not have happened in the release state:
It has come a long way since these were taken, but then it had too really.
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Post by griffith82 on Jul 27, 2017 23:28:28 GMT
While this is ultimately true that games SHOULD be released without glitches or bugs, that's not how the industry works at all. It's common practice for EVERY AAA publisher to release a game and then do patches. TW3 had game-breaking and save-corrupting bugs, HZD had animation and clipping issues, etc. That's just the state of the industry. Is that shameful? Probably. But with people wanting bigger and more complex games, removing every glitch would take years after the game was finished, all they'd have to charge $120 per game (just a guess). Did MEA launch with more bugs than some games? Sure. Did it launch with less bugs than many others? Assuredly. But some games launch with bugs that just never get addressed. Many games get much less support post-launch than MEA. THAT'S why we are thankful. Because they already had our money. There's no real reason they would have to patch it as far as they have. They did it for us (and for their reputation, too). Only AAA game I've played in recent memory that came out worse than ME:A was Arkham City, and they refunded players. You can't just chalk all Andromeda's issues up to normal day one bugs. You mean Arkham Knight and there is no comparison.
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Post by DoctorFox on Jul 27, 2017 23:28:44 GMT
Now all we need is that Quarian Ark DLC and it'll be the perfect end to the first ME:Andromeda game.
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Post by heathenoxman on Jul 28, 2017 0:32:39 GMT
I play a lot of games and I get sidetracked sometimes. I jump around from game to game. Sometimes I put down a game (even a fantastic one) and come back to it a few months later. After putting a solid 30-ish hours into Andromeda after the initial release, I ping ponged through quite a few very good games but picked it up back up a few days ago. Wow.......... animations are very much smoothed out and facial expressions are........ normal -- across the board. Many MANY changes and updates. Honestly, it's a Mass Effect game through and through. It really is. It feels like it on every turn and I have to say that in the end it feels like an 85-90 overall, falling right in line with the rest of the series. Hats off to Bioware (well, the Mass Effect team) for busting their humps and getting this game where it should have been, albeit a little bit later than intended I suppose. Not all companies would have taken it this seriously. Now if only we could get a DLC.......
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Post by colfoley on Jul 28, 2017 0:59:35 GMT
On the conversation of what are the buggiest games I've ever played...i don't have a number 1. But.
Witcher 3, MEA, ME 2, DAO, and Skyrim are probably all contenders for that crown. Note three of my favorite games of all time are on this list.
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Post by pouf on Jul 28, 2017 1:30:53 GMT
On the conversation of what are the buggiest games I've ever played...i don't have a number 1. But. Witcher 3, MEA, ME 2, DAO, and Skyrim are probably all contenders for that crown. Note three of my favorite games of all time are on this list. Don't even pretend Andromeda was as buggy as that broken pile of trash Witcher 3.
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Post by griffith82 on Jul 28, 2017 1:37:42 GMT
On the conversation of what are the buggiest games I've ever played...i don't have a number 1. But. Witcher 3, MEA, ME 2, DAO, and Skyrim are probably all contenders for that crown. Note three of my favorite games of all time are on this list. Op I love guessing games. Let's see MEA, DAO and Skyrim?
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Post by colfoley on Jul 28, 2017 1:43:58 GMT
On the conversation of what are the buggiest games I've ever played...i don't have a number 1. But. Witcher 3, MEA, ME 2, DAO, and Skyrim are probably all contenders for that crown. Note three of my favorite games of all time are on this list. Op I love guessing games. Let's see MEA, DAO and Skyrim? MEA ME 2 and Witcher 3.
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Post by themikefest on Jul 28, 2017 1:48:06 GMT
On the conversation of what are the buggiest games I've ever played...i don't have a number 1. But. Witcher 3, MEA, ME 2, DAO, and Skyrim are probably all contenders for that crown. Note three of my favorite games of all time are on this list. For me, Fallout 3 was the buggiest game I've played.
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Post by griffith82 on Jul 28, 2017 1:48:28 GMT
Op I love guessing games. Let's see MEA, DAO and Skyrim? MEA ME 2 and Witcher 3. Well shit. Good choices though. Skyrim is good but great storytelling it ain't. Still taking down dragons, $100,becoming a mage $1000, becoming an assassin, theif and hero all at the same time? Priceless.😁
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Post by griffith82 on Jul 28, 2017 1:54:08 GMT
On the conversation of what are the buggiest games I've ever played...i don't have a number 1. But. Witcher 3, MEA, ME 2, DAO, and Skyrim are probably all contenders for that crown. Note three of my favorite games of all time are on this list. For me, Fallout 3 was the buggiest game I've played. Since I started pc gaming as my primary gaming platform I've had plenty of buggy games. There was one though that wasn't for pc, in fact my GameStop recommended it. Man was it terrible. Buggy hard to tell wtf was going on I just could barely make it through.
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Post by cypherj on Jul 28, 2017 2:32:07 GMT
Only AAA game I've played in recent memory that came out worse than ME:A was Arkham City, and they refunded players. You can't just chalk all Andromeda's issues up to normal day one bugs. You mean Arkham Knight and there is no comparison. No, I mean Arkham City. They released it on PC, it was unplayable, they basically recalled it, pulled it off steam, and stopped selling it. They gave people refunds and then put it back out once they fixed it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2017 12:29:50 GMT
a video game is also not a car. It doesn't matter the value, the principle is the same. If someone sells me something they know to be unfinished, and EA knew what condition the game was in when they put it out. I'm not going to thank them months later for bringing it to the point it should have been in when they sold it. If everyone acts like it's fine, what is to stop them from doing it again? Regardless of whether or not you like it, I will thank whoever I please for whatever I please, thank you very much. ... and that includes letting game developers know that patching their games beats the heck out of their not patching them. Certainly, I would prefer if they could arrange things so that they don't have to patch them, but I still appreciate them patching them promptly when they do required patching.
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Post by griffith82 on Jul 28, 2017 12:33:30 GMT
You mean Arkham Knight and there is no comparison. No, I mean Arkham City. They released it on PC, it was unplayable, they basically recalled it, pulled it off steam, and stopped selling it. They gave people refunds and then put it back out once they fixed it. That was Arkham Knight. City was not recalled. I just did a google search to confirm and the only one that was pulled was Knight.
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