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Post by cypherj on Jul 28, 2017 12:35:41 GMT
It doesn't matter the value, the principle is the same. If someone sells me something they know to be unfinished, and EA knew what condition the game was in when they put it out. I'm not going to thank them months later for bringing it to the point it should have been in when they sold it. If everyone acts like it's fine, what is to stop them from doing it again? Regardless of whether or not you like it, I will thank whoever I please for whatever I please, thank you very much. ... and that includes letting game developers know that patching their games beats the heck out of their not patching them. Certainly, I would prefer if they could arrange things so that they don't have to patch them, but I still appreciate them patching them promptly when they do required patching. When did I say you couldn't or shouldn't. I said in my very first post, maybe it's just me, but I've never been a person that did that. What does that have to do with you or anyone else? You're acting like I said, people need to stop thanking Bioware. |
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Post by haolyn on Jul 28, 2017 12:44:18 GMT
I have to agree that the way the game shipped was unfinished at best. The blame rests solely on EA's shoulders for forcing Bioware to release when they did and it's not okay to let them off the hook for that. Them patching the game post release is the bare minimum required to deliver the finished product their customers paid for. The fact that every other developer does the same thing is also not okay and they also should not be let off the hook for that.
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Post by cypherj on Jul 28, 2017 12:45:12 GMT
No, I mean Arkham City. They released it on PC, it was unplayable, they basically recalled it, pulled it off steam, and stopped selling it. They gave people refunds and then put it back out once they fixed it. That was Arkham Knight. City was not recalled. I just did a google search to confirm and the only one that was pulled was Knight. Which one had the playable Batgirl? |
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Post by griffith82 on Jul 28, 2017 12:49:54 GMT
That was Arkham Knight. City was not recalled. I just did a google search to confirm and the only one that was pulled was Knight. Which one had the playable Batgirl? Arkham Knight. |
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Post by cypherj on Jul 28, 2017 12:51:26 GMT
Which one had the playable Batgirl? Arkham Knight. Ok, well my apologies. It was Arkham Knight. City had the playable Catwoman, I remember now. |
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Post by griffith82 on Jul 28, 2017 12:52:47 GMT
Ok, well my apologies. It was Arkham Knight. City had the playable Catwoman, I remember now. No biggie. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2017 15:41:52 GMT
Regardless of whether or not you like it, I will thank whoever I please for whatever I please, thank you very much. ... and that includes letting game developers know that patching their games beats the heck out of their not patching them. Certainly, I would prefer if they could arrange things so that they don't have to patch them, but I still appreciate them patching them promptly when they do required patching. When did I say you couldn't or shouldn't. I said in my very first post, maybe it's just me, but I've never been a person that did that. What does that have to do with you or anyone else? You're acting like I said, people need to stop thanking Bioware. You said: Seems to me like an assertion that we shouldn't "act like it's fine" by thanking them for patching the game. Being ingracious and not thanking them for doing a good job in patching the game does not stop them from releasing the next game with bugs. It does instead send a message that there may be no actual benefit to their patching it. Many of the bugs catch developers off guard... they occur on some configurations and not on others. Also, with games getting so inordinately long (100+ hours), manually looking at every portion of it multiple times on various rigs is simply not practical. While some of it may be due to being rushed and just not paying good attention, the increasing complexity of these games and their increasing overall length, I convinced, is also having an affect here. We cite examples from way back when of games released on disc that did not need any patching while failing to consider that, for the most part, the entire content of the game was likely to be about 2 hours long and involve far simpler programming and graphics than they do today. |
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