With Mass Effect: Andromeda, Bioware Improved on Its Gay Relationships - Article

Eh... would be totally worth it   Trophy unlocked "The best sacrifice"

But im fairly sure the whole getting done f***ed up thing is kinda the idea

But yeah, Im pretty sure my character would be willing to risk death to spend some time with a desire demon... who wouldnt 

Someone who wants to remain in control of their own skin for one....

The fuck is this mess????

No. Andromeda gets no points in this area. Lets have a little review, shall we?

• Gay male romances are side characters with significantly less content, dialog, CC faces, etc.
• Vetra's writer had to fight for her to be bisexual.
• Excluding gay men from the main Squad was intentional.
• Jaal was only made bi after massive backlash.
• The two sidelined gay men don't acknowledge each others
  existence if you cheat on them because promiscuous gay men
  don't care about that kind of thing.
• I could go on.

Andromeda and most of it's team deserve absolutely NO praise concerning it's gay relationships. Along with the above points was the psycho torture gay ME fans went through pre-release. Many here in the forums can concur. The handling of this issue was just corrosive and now we have to deal with this shit: articles popping up raining undeserved praise when objectively Andromeda is little better(I vote worse) than ME3 in terms LGB romance and only because WE(gay peeps) forced the issue. This entire event demonstrates a deplorable attitude within the MEA team that in the year 2819 a Blue Space Babe and a Purple Squid Cobra Cat Man can eye fuck each other throughout space adventures but the gay still has to be stuffed into a nice little box on the side.

Maybe some out there don't care how childlike, immature and emotionally stunted the two characters (especially Ryder) in that dialogue were portrayed regardless of sexual preference. There's no if about it. Bad writing, bad dialogue bad characterization. Why does me citing this upset you so much? I'd be angrier at Bioware who seems to think millenial lesbians are emotionally stunted people who abuse their power at work within minutes of embarking on their great task.

My spider-senses triggered, what's going on in here?

Additionally, fraternization between superior and subordinate has been present in the series from the very first Mass Effect game. 

Did you just assume my sexuality?!

Yeah, if we took out all the romances that didn't involve breaking some ethical code, like superior with subordinate, the only romances that would be in the franchise are Sha-ira in ME1, nothing in ME2 or ME3, and then Avela, Keri, and Reyes in MEA. 

There's a reason why DA:I got a GLAAD award and ME:A did not.

Also, I just wanted to add that Sera still has the best lesbian sex scene in Bioware history. Sorry Peebee, but you riding Sara's non-existent dick is an automatic fail.

True, though I was considering more than just superior and subordinate, in Miranda's case co-workers. Same reason why I counted Keri T'Vessa but not Diana Allers, since Keri waits until her story on us is done thus any ethical issues are no longer an issue while Diana ignores them as long as Shepard promises to keep it a secret. 

No, they aren't one of the people who did that. 

After Jaal was made bi, I swore to myself that I would try to be less salty about how gay romance was handled in ME:A before and after launch. But your list is very accurate and brings all the memory back.

I remember the queerbaiting Bioware devs did during the marketing and their silence on gay romance while they were promoting m/f(Cora) romance. And oh yeah I remember that stupid phrase: "pretty good banging", unless you are interested in m/m romance. I remember that before launch a certain dev promised to talk about romance options after the game launch, and we never heard back regarding romance distribution until patch 1.08. Oh and remember "happy with specifics" line from a certain dev (no longer with Bioware) which implies that he was happy with a romance option distribution at launch that was horrible for m/m romance. As you said, how they handled m/m romance pre-launch was truly horrible.

And you said it well that the change came from the fact that some gay people (also some bi and straight people as well, thank you) were pushing them hard with #MakeJaalBi tag. And although the tag met with some opposition, the tag made a pretty great push. We got devs to respond, saying that they listened to our feedback regarding romance. We got some news outlet to report how romance distribution in MEA and MET was bad. And of course bi Jaal happened and I say it was quite worth fighting for it.

Adding to your list, I have

• Reyes/MaleRyder dance animation is horrible compared to with female Ryder. They were like robots dancing lol.
• Vetra misgenders male Ryder in her comment regarding Reyes's romance (fixed now per patch 1.09 or 1.08)
• Duty to procreate bullshit with Gil romance and how the baby decision affects the final scene.
• Fade to back for Gil romance scene despite the fact that the animation for that scene is actually there.

And for lesbian players I have:

• Female Ryder's invisible dick in Peebee sex scene.

With that side, I am thankful that Bioware has made changes that correct their mistake. Making Jaal bi and improving male Ryder/Reyes animation (still glitchy sometimes) are correct decisions. And despite their flaws, I like Gil and Reyes as characters and romance options. But Bioware could have done much better regarding gay romance and its marketing. This whole ordeal just leaves a sour taste in my mouth regarding Bioware. I hope DA4 will be better than this.