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Post by suikoden on Aug 2, 2017 7:41:55 GMT
From his twitter feed:
Some other guy: "Oh man, didn't even realize it got that bad."
Manveer: "Oh, it got worse than anyone on the outside probably realizes."
Some other guy: "Could I ask if this piece was accurate?" (The Kotaku article).
Manveer: "Most of that stuff was accurate, but there is a lot left out IMO"
Sounds like there was a lot of internal conflict and infighting - but then again, consider the source... Sounds like he left of his own accord though.
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Post by BadgerladDK on Aug 2, 2017 7:45:22 GMT
Urgh, is there any reason to be concerned about what Curry Thunder has to say now that he's finally fucked off?
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Post by suikoden on Aug 2, 2017 7:50:08 GMT
Urgh, is there any reason to be concerned about what Curry Thunder has to say now that he's finally fucked off? Why they let him work there for 7 years is one concern...
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Post by Andrew Waples on Aug 2, 2017 8:00:24 GMT
From his twitter feed: Some other guy: "Oh man, didn't even realize it got that bad." Manveer: "Oh, it got worse than anyone on the outside probably realizes." Some other guy: "Could I ask if this piece was accurate?" (The Kotaku article). Manveer: "Most of that stuff was accurate, but there is a lot left out IMO" Sounds like there was a lot of internal conflict and infighting - but then again, consider the source... Sounds like he left of his own accord though. That last bit though doesn't make any sense. How could "most of the stuff be accurate, but leave a lot out"? It's an oxymoron. He tends to get a bit... shall we say emotional about things.
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Post by cribbian on Aug 2, 2017 8:07:43 GMT
Too many white people for his taste probably.
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Post by ioannisdenton on Aug 2, 2017 8:10:36 GMT
Hahahaha that's an awesome gif!!! how do i search for it?
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Post by Fredward on Aug 2, 2017 8:34:41 GMT
He left as optionally as Scaramucchi did. Also, "left a lot of it out" is code for "problems weirdly unique to me that follow me everywhere but is definitely external in origin."
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Post by PillarBiter on Aug 2, 2017 8:43:28 GMT
He left as optionally as Scaramucchi did. Also, "left a lot of it out" is code for "problems weirdly unique to me that follow me everywhere but is definitely external in origin." Pretty much what I wanted to say, but I wouldn't have been able to say it so eloquently passively aggressive.
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Post by guanxi on Aug 2, 2017 8:46:06 GMT
I'm glad he hated every minute of it, right back at you Curry Thunder.
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on Aug 2, 2017 9:17:41 GMT
I'm not sure which I find more amusing, the nick names for this douchebag dev that is Manveer Heir or the cult fascination a few have with some Kotaku article.
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Post by SofaJockey on Aug 2, 2017 9:39:42 GMT
^ Finding it hard to disagree...
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Post by SofNascimento on Aug 2, 2017 10:23:50 GMT
No surprises there. It's was clear by the state of the game, and even before that because of its marketing, that Andromeda had a terrible development cycle.
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Post by Jeremiah12LGeek on Aug 2, 2017 11:18:46 GMT
Sometimes I wonder what it's like for people who never really left high school.
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on Aug 2, 2017 11:36:52 GMT
Urgh, is there any reason to be concerned about what Curry Thunder has to say now that he's finally fucked off? Why they let him work there for 7 years is one concern... ... wait. What?!? Again, I've ripped HR for their lousy, ineffective handling of FOURTEEN leads and dozens of lower-level developers flashing middle fingers at BioWare, but this?!? F*** DLC. Get rid of all those inept losers in HR. (I know, that's crazy talk. Right?) I can hear a thousand EXCUSES, but to my trained ear... they're just excuses for not being competent or effective. It's all excuses and no backbone or spine. Even worse, did they even bother contacting EA legal eagles for help? If HR did and they didn't help... they're a waste of payroll as well. How can a GM operate under those conditions? Man... I wish I was EA CEO for a day. A lot of long faces and middle fingers would be raised at me especially coming from the hallways of HR, Marketing and Legal. I'm 45 and had my run-ins with HR (ya think?) and I have met a few (more than one, actually three because they failed to understand the scope of the job itself. One tried to suspend me on a technicality, now her and her boss are working somewhere else. Tomorrow could be number four because they still haven't gotten back to me on a simple request that the feds f***ing want.) that LOST their jobs because they tried to do the "old college way." Yeah, that works in college, not in the real world. EA should have people that understand Canadian and American employment practices in an out... like their legal department. Again, this is what I always suspected of what was wrong behind the scenes and every time Heir opens his stupid mouth he is telling me I'm right. Every time an ex-employee goes on a podcast, it reinforces my line of thought. Every time I read about a lead's departure... it reinforces my thoughts. Buying a half-dozen employees drinks off of 6th Street and they're spilling about signing performance reviews, cliques, CYA, back-stabbing, etc. That also reinforces my thought that half of them were bad hires in the first place and the other three were thankless hipsters. (ROARS IN FRUSTRATION) EA, hire me. I will clean out the crap in 10 days or less. All those married couples that are causing HR issues... goodbye. I'm not against couples working at BioWare, but when one is failing and the other is essential... that's when you interview candidates and inform that couple that they're an ugly issue and it's time to cut ties. If BioWare is overrun with family, then wow... it's not HR's fault, but somehow... I can't stretch my imagination that far. Also, this is speculation, but my speculation is hot. I'm also aware of the fact that maybe... just maybe... Maker willing... that those buffoons in HR, Legal and Marketing all have been shown the door already. It's possible, but this is EA. EA, Enthusiasm Annihilated. A few recent "wins" doesn't change a long-standing reputation. (takes a deep drag) "merde..."
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Post by Andrew Lucas on Aug 2, 2017 12:15:39 GMT
How much long before some of the forum's drones say he's wrong? This thread will be magnificent.
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Post by ArabianIGoggles on Aug 2, 2017 13:02:06 GMT
I hope this guy never works on a game I like again.
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Post by trinity0 on Aug 2, 2017 13:16:27 GMT
Ok you never know, but remembering some of the Twitter comments from Manveer Heir, it is likely that he was jointly responsible for the problems at bioware Montreal and the bad state of the game.
But on the other hand. He was not fired in the 7 Years he worked at Bioware Montreal.
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on Aug 2, 2017 13:30:32 GMT
You know what? I'm going to assume the problems are addressed or being addressed. Hudson's hiring is a good sign, but those heavyweights on payroll with HR, marketing and legal had also better be addressed or just gone. BioWare STILL looks like the hated pariah in gaming and development circles.
This is EA's solution to their image problem? This is marketing? This is where money is spent to experiment with an idea and see where it takes us bullcrap? How about defending the studio's integrity instead of all this other garbage. Let the product speak for itself... MORONS. How about reconnecting with the fan base? How about not using awful pricing schemes and cutting corners? How about not cutting up vanilla and stifling real expansions?
BioWare, do better. You only have to look back at pre-EA history and see where it all went right.
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Post by Arcian on Aug 2, 2017 13:37:27 GMT
From his twitter feed: Some other guy: "Oh man, didn't even realize it got that bad." Manveer: "Oh, it got worse than anyone on the outside probably realizes." Some other guy: "Could I ask if this piece was accurate?" (The Kotaku article). Manveer: "Most of that stuff was accurate, but there is a lot left out IMO" Sounds like there was a lot of internal conflict and infighting - but then again, consider the source... Sounds like he left of his own accord though. That last bit though doesn't make any sense. How could "most of the stuff be accurate, but leave a lot out"? It's an oxymoron. He tends to get a bit... shall we say emotional about things. Your understanding of the word oxymoron is an oxymoron, Baldrick. No doubt he meant that the article was accurate in regards to the problems it reported, but that it did not fully report the extent of the problems suffered by the development of the game. In other words, you will have to buy the Article DLC to find out what else went wrong with ME:A.
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Post by cobalt72 on Aug 2, 2017 13:38:52 GMT
Eh, it's early here but where's the vodka
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Post by ShakespeareInSpace on Aug 2, 2017 13:42:35 GMT
It's translation for "I'm the instigator of a lot of problems, but rather than take responsibility for my abhorrent views and perpetuating racism, I'll make a equivocating remark and be flippant about it. YOLO #ItsWhitePeoplesFault." Bioware has enough problems, Mr.Drinkingswhitetears isn't one of them. I hear they're quite...ahm salty.
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Post by Andrew Lucas on Aug 2, 2017 13:58:41 GMT
You know what? I'm going to assume the problems are addressed or being addressed. Hudson's hiring is a good sign, but those heavyweights on payroll with HR, marketing and legal had also better be addressed or just gone. BioWare STILL looks like the hated pariah in gaming and development circles. This is EA's solution to their image problem? This is marketing? This is where money is spent to experiment with an idea and see where it takes us bullcrap? How about defending the studio's integrity instead of all this other garbage. Let the product speak for itself... MORONS. How about reconnecting with the fan base? How about not using awful pricing schemes and cutting corners? How about not cutting up vanilla and stifling real expansions? BioWare, do better. You only have to look back at pre-EA history and see where it all went right. EA is doing well, though? Last year alone they released two GOTYs, delayed MEA. You can't blame them for BioWare not having a functional product with no "Whoa!' factor to be displayed in the marketing push during the last weeks.
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Post by mannyray on Aug 2, 2017 14:04:20 GMT
You know what? I'm going to assume the problems are addressed or being addressed. Hudson's hiring is a good sign, but those heavyweights on payroll with HR, marketing and legal had also better be addressed or just gone. BioWare STILL looks like the hated pariah in gaming and development circles. This is EA's solution to their image problem? This is marketing? This is where money is spent to experiment with an idea and see where it takes us bullcrap? How about defending the studio's integrity instead of all this other garbage. Let the product speak for itself... MORONS. How about reconnecting with the fan base? How about not using awful pricing schemes and cutting corners? How about not cutting up vanilla and stifling real expansions? BioWare, do better. You only have to look back at pre-EA history and see where it all went right. I agree here, but the core problem is that Bioware is merely an imprint of EA and in light of that, they don't have the choice of looking at the pre-EA history as a template to set it right. Bioware does not truly exist any longer as it did prior to the EA buyout, hence what we have seen from this imprint over the last few years.
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