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Post by JRandall0308 on Aug 4, 2017 14:32:08 GMT
I may be obsessive but I am not going back in time to see who claimed they were done after Dragon Age Inquisition.
Although I do see a lot of those people here.
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Post by Scathane on Aug 4, 2017 14:44:44 GMT
I may be obsessive but I am not going back in time to see who claimed they were done after Dragon Age Inquisition. Although I do see a lot of those people here.What were the main points of criticism regarding DAIMP in a nutshell? I virtually only played SP...
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Post by JRandall0308 on Aug 4, 2017 15:14:55 GMT
Same as usual: released buggy, weird balancing, frustrating enemies, key drop bug, BWEAmelia and the PRpocalypse, a loot system that combined RNG with massive amounts of busywork, and a prestige system that made the game trivial for people who played a lot.
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Post by Kenny Bania on Aug 4, 2017 15:40:58 GMT
You can do that for me. If I even post on this site anymore I was already planning on trolling Beerfish because I absolutely am done with them. Too many games out there and talented teams to be eating shit over and over. I really am done. As you wish. Can you update the "notes" for me to say "Fuck em" please? Thanks.
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Post by JRandall0308 on Aug 4, 2017 16:03:24 GMT
Can you update the "notes" for me to say "Fuck em" please? Thanks. OK but that means that if, by the time Anthem releases, you have not fucked at least one Bioware employee, I get to call you out for being a liar.
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Post by What Else You Need To Know? on Aug 4, 2017 16:29:23 GMT
Can you update the "notes" for me to say "Fuck em" please? Thanks. OK but that means that if, by the time Anthem releases, you have not fucked at least one Bioware employee, I get to call you out for being a liar. Why doesn't the times Bioware has fucked him count?
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Post by ShadowAngel on Aug 4, 2017 16:32:18 GMT
yes, unfortunately. The game has got a lot better but I just cannot see myself splashing the cash for anything else they release. I suppose what 343 Industries did to the Halo franchise is similar in a sense. 343 smh 🤢 Those guys ruined halo
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Post by ShadowAngel on Aug 4, 2017 16:35:17 GMT
Is every studio going to hit a homerun every single game? Of course not. Those who understand WHY MEA fell flat, won't hold that against the main studio who didn't work on the game. 1 dud is bound to happen to every studio eventually. DAII, ME2s story being all over the place, ME3s ending, Andromeda... one dud you say? There's plenty of reasons to distrust bioware before Andromeda was even a thing.
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Post by JRandall0308 on Aug 4, 2017 16:56:20 GMT
And actually as a GAME, Mass Effect 1 was soooooo dated in its design and gameplay elements.
As someone put it in a review of Andromeda: Bioware still designs games like they are re-making Baldur's Gate over and over. While there is some nostalgia for those days, the reality is that gameplay design has passed them by. You see this with ME, the DA franchise, and I'm sure you'll see it with Anthem as well (with the added bonus of them copying from the Destiny design LOLOLOL).
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Post by JRandall0308 on Aug 4, 2017 16:58:05 GMT
OK but that means that if, by the time Anthem releases, you [Kenny Bania] have not fucked at least one Bioware employee, I get to call you out for being a liar. Why doesn't the times Bioware has fucked him count? No, that doesn't count. For it to count he should've said 'fuck me' instead of 'fuck 'em' See how important letter order can be.
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Post by Terminator Force on Aug 4, 2017 17:14:52 GMT
And actually as a GAME, Mass Effect 1 was soooooo dated in its design and gameplay elements. Yet it's still the best Mass Effect. Go figure.
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Post by jloco11 on Aug 4, 2017 18:55:21 GMT
Is every studio going to hit a homerun every single game? Of course not. Those who understand WHY MEA fell flat, won't hold that against the main studio who didn't work on the game. 1 dud is bound to happen to every studio eventually. DAII, ME2s story being all over the place, ME3s ending, Andromeda... one dud you say? There's plenty of reasons to distrust bioware before Andromeda was even a thing. ME2 is actually praised as one of their best ME games, because of the branching paths and countless ways you can kill or save your teammates. Is it perfect? Of course not, but you'll find far more positive reviews than negative reviews. Far from a dud. ME3's ending was terrible. Yet they listened to fans and extended the ending. How many games can you name where they add more explanation to their ending, and even change some of the scenes people see? The game itself up to that ending was still praised, but the bad ending is what the game is remembered for. 30+ hours and it's remembered for a bad 5 minutes, which they attempted to fix. DA2 certainly had issues, but what did they do? Follow it up with DA:I which was also widely praised. So there is your dud from the Edmonton studio. Because the team that worked on your 3 examples, is not the same team that did Andromeda. Which is why I said people who understand the issues the game had, won't hold it against the main studio that didn't work on the game.
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Post by evhgear on Aug 4, 2017 19:14:58 GMT
Never really liked Dragon Age, we have a few info on Anthem... hard to say. I love Mass Effect so any new installment I will play it.
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Post by ShadowAngel on Aug 4, 2017 19:20:55 GMT
DAII, ME2s story being all over the place, ME3s ending, Andromeda... one dud you say? There's plenty of reasons to distrust bioware before Andromeda was even a thing. ME2 is actually praised as one of their best ME games, because of the branching paths and countless ways you can kill or save your teammates. Is it perfect? Of course not, but you'll find far more positive reviews than negative reviews. Far from a dud. ME3's ending was terrible. Yet they listened to fans and extended the ending. How many games can you name where they add more explanation to their ending, and even change some of the scenes people see? The game itself up to that ending was still praised, but the bad ending is what the game is remembered for. 30+ hours and it's remembered for a bad 5 minutes, which they attempted to fix. DA2 certainly had issues, but what did they do? Follow it up with DA:I which was also widely praised. So there is your dud from the Edmonton studio. Because the team that worked on your 3 examples, is not the same team that did Andromeda. Which is why I said people who understand the issues the game had, won't hold it against the main studio that didn't work on the game. I'm well aware of Biowares multiple studios (including the one that made Andromeda getting shut down and merged with EA motive). I still classify them all as one group under the name bioware though as that's part of brand recognition. It's Biowares own fault giving their top ip to a studio that had omega DLC and multiplayer as it's only previous work for a resume. a lot of my examples you're just sugar coating. Oh they tried to fix the ending, or that game was still praised overall. Doesn't change the fact that some will still hold those issues vs bioware. want to know my own biggest issue with bioware? How they've gone away from actual RPGs to action shooters, about when ME2 became a thing and then dragon age became a hack and slash combat game.
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Post by solarificspaghetti on Aug 4, 2017 20:13:51 GMT
Wheres the option for "ill buy if it looks good" all these options are too extreme.
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Post by gethadept on Aug 4, 2017 20:35:01 GMT
Wheres the option for "ill buy if it looks good" all these options are too extreme. Maybe that`s the mistake I made. I didn`t check any prior information regarding MEA when I preordered it. I just assumed both its SP & MP to be far superior than ME3. I also didn`t want to ruin the fun by getting any spoiler. That said, Anthem looks really really good. When I saw Anthem promo unveil video... it helped me understand why MEA really sucked. MEA was the child only there to get free aid and food stamp. Anthem was destined one to be the star getting all the attention, education and support. Ultimately making the EA family rich.
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Post by JRandall0308 on Aug 4, 2017 21:17:13 GMT
OK now it's time for someone else to save this post and throw it back in my face.
I will be SHOCKED if Anthem is anything more than a mediocre Destiny clone. I think it will have all the same problems of the other Bioware MP games, plus the problems of Destiny.
In other words I think it will be a dud. Measured however you want to measure... we'll know the truth in our hearts. (P.S. yes MEA is also a dud.)
I will CHANGE MY SIGNATURE to read about how I was wrong and am an idiot, etc. if it turns out I'm wrong.
Someone save this post, check back with me in a year or whatever.
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Post by tatann on Aug 5, 2017 0:14:08 GMT
ill only buy bioware games if the community is toxic. You mean as long as JRandall plays the game, you'll buy it ?
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Post by Fly In The Lotion on Aug 5, 2017 2:27:16 GMT
I'm a sucker and I will surely buy Anthem. (It is being developed by BioWare's "A Team" after all).
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Aug 5, 2017 2:47:28 GMT
OK but that means that if, by the time Anthem releases, you have not fucked at least one Bioware employee, I get to call you out for being a liar. Why doesn't the times Bioware has fucked him count? Without even an Iron Bull reach around. ... ;_;
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2017 2:52:57 GMT
I may be obsessive but I am not going back in time to see who claimed they were done after Dragon Age Inquisition. Although I do see a lot of those people here.As to the topic, nope. I liked MEA more than I dislike it and actually consider it a pretty decent but flawed game. The next ME game will have a different MP team which imo would be an improvement (not to throw shade). As I've said a few times now, Casey returning and Drew Karpyshyn being involved in Anthem, I have hope that they will recover. Now as far as Anthem itself... I don't know.
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Post by nastrodamus on Aug 5, 2017 3:13:05 GMT
In this case I have a pretty big backlog that I'm finally cracking so no more bioware games won't break me plus other better stuff is coming out.
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Post by mannyray on Aug 5, 2017 5:12:11 GMT
Depends on what other games they come out with This is my answer as well. It looks like angry fan bias shined through some in the poll creation.
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Post by Schachmatt123 on Aug 5, 2017 7:44:39 GMT
Bioware game or EA Game? Because at this point it's pretty much EA, with Bioware only as a brand. If a game get's good (user) reviews and good support, while I like what I see in a LP I may consider buying a game (budget prefered). But with the recent behaviour towards loyal customers I highly doubt I will buy any EA product anytime soon. Not to mention how they ruined a popular and profitable (!) brand such as Mass Effect in no time. Nope, other companies will do better. Next Serious Sam game is waiting, developed by a dedicated team that still pulls out patches for their games after up to 10 years. Solid singleplayer and polished both PvE and PvP multiplayer. Or Elex, an old school RPG done by Piranha Bytes, coming out in october. There is also my list of unplayed but owned games aka pile of shame waiting...
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Post by lennybusker on Aug 5, 2017 13:15:57 GMT
OK now it's time for someone else to save this post and throw it back in my face. I will be SHOCKED if Anthem is anything more than a mediocre Destiny clone. I think it will have all the same problems of the other Bioware MP games, plus the problems of Destiny. In other words I think it will be a dud. Measured however you want to measure... we'll know the truth in our hearts. (P.S. yes MEA is also a dud.) I will CHANGE MY SIGNATURE to read about how I was wrong and am an idiot, etc. if it turns out I'm wrong. Someone save this post, check back with me in a year or whatever. It's absolutely going to be a Destivision clone. EA wants in on that sweet sweet Game As A Service action, and EVERY hint at the game's structure so far has pointed dead ass in that direction. There's one idiot ass stalwart defender in the Anthem forum here, not sure if I saved their name, who pops up every single time someone uses the D word to just scream NUH UH over and over again with absolutely no argument. I so want to throw it right back in their fucking face when the game launches. The wishful bunch are hoping to see Borderlands. I keep telling them "shared world" means Destivision. It's the lock of the year.
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