IF we get another Mass Effect game....

Bioware did consider it. 

Yeah for the vault though in the end Ryder managed to interface with Rene ant technology by themselves. Besides they also established relations with the Angara, solved problems with the iniative and earned the trust of his crew.

LOL that's awful dialogue. I'm glad they cut it and that option.

Ryder lost Mom pre-Andromeda (as far as she knew), lost Dad shortly after arriving in Andromeda, nearly lost her twin, and did lose the rest of the Pathfinder team except for Cora & Liam (some died, the others quit). With no other arks having arrived, and no other Pathfinders present, she had the entire weight of the expedition dumped on her shoulders - with no time to mourn.


Presumably, Alec Ryder earned his N7 "tab" the same way Shepard did - and passed some of that knowledge on to his kids.

The twins were trained members of the Pathfinder team - they agreed to undergo surgery to be fitted with the SAM nodes, had started Alliance careers, and proved their mettle and recon expertise on Habitat 7.

I don't know what you think privilege is, but it isn't watching your Mom waste away with disease while your Dad's career and reputation go to crap (along with your potential for an Alliance career) because he's desperately developing an AI to try to save her.

Call it nepotism if you must, but the simple fact of the matter is that nobody else was qualified to assume the role. Cora was too much into hero worship and reliance on other authority to have been a leader at that time. Young Ryder had no choice but to step up.


Shepard was an Alliance Officer and Council Spectre with the full faith and power of both organizations behind her. She was an acknowledged authority figure throughout the Milky Way.

Ryder was traveling with a group of intruders trying to find a home. She had no authority outside of her own crew, no fleets to back her up, no law enforcement system to support her, nobody else to call in to finish what she might start.


Ryder isn't Shepard - surprise, surprise!

A Pathfinder is not an Alliance Marine.

Shepard also started somewhere.  She was not always N7, not always a CO, not always a Spectre Candidate.  She had accomplished all of those things before we ever met the character.

BioWare was very clear about this long before the game was released. They said the character was very young and untested, and would carry responsibilities that weren't entirely combat-focused.

Who knows, hopefully he'd seize direct control and prevent Liam from doing anything stupid.

Ryder earned it in the end proving their doubters. Regardless of the circumstances.

Establish a relationship with the angara. Solve problems on the planets? I'd guess alliance solider can Shepards job the ?

You seem to think that being made the Pathfinder is some huge honor or reward.

It isn't.  It's a job with a helluva lot of responsibility.  It would have been much easier for Ryder to just go back into the cryo pod and let someone else do the heavy lifting.  Alas, she was not afforded the opportunity.

claiming it was pure nepotism in light of the game's actual narrative (whether good or bad) is trolling. You asserted it was nepotism in light of facts. trolling. Could the rest of the game's narrative given the character more opportunities via a more convincing trial by fire? Yeah I think so. But you just go "daddy gave daddy gave lolol"
basically. You're ignoring ingame facts and acting like that's a genuine rebuttal. 

So did Ryder earn the Pathfinder role at the game's beginning or was it given to them?

You are arguing an argument that isnt true.

Ryder didnt go through the trials to earn her role, her father given the circumstance gave it to her or him.

That is like a dying N7 (no pun intended) decides to anoint a rookie with the honor of N7 just to be able to carry on the mission.

The situation may have deemed it necessary but it still wasnt earned.

So instead you play the "you are a troll" card as some last ditch effort to add validity to your claims.

Liam is great!

Pathfinder =/= N7.

Did Kallo earn the role of Tempest pilot or was it just given to him?

Did Suvi earn the role of Science Officer or was it just given to her?

Did Alec Ryder earn the role of Pathfinder or was it just given to him?  How about the other Pathfinders?
Hint: He invented the role, developed the training, etc.