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Post by suikoden on Aug 7, 2017 17:35:15 GMT
I'm not sure why another ME is an "if" and not a "when." Regardless, when we get another ME game, and we will, mark my words, surely BW will continue the Ryder saga. ME games always follow a certain protagonist around for whatever story arc they are on and I see no reason for that to change now. They have put far too much time and effort into ME:A to simply throw that all away because a vocal group of those who are truly never satisfied with anything threw a tizzy on the 'net. Last I checked, ME:A was not a financial failure. Sure, it didn't sell CoD-level gangbusters, but it did sell well enough that EA was relatively happy with it. It wasn't a critical failure either, sure, the "mainstream" gaming media gave it average ratings, but even those reviews didn't label it a "bad game" by any means and I can find many outlets that rated it at 80 or higher. I can find more that gave it a 70 or less... this isn't high school, where low 70's are a B - low 70's is terrible for a AAA game. 196 games have come out for PS4 in 2017. Andromeda is 106/194. Right up there with Psychonauts in the Rhombus of Ruin and Castle Storm: Virtual Reality.
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Post by griffith82 on Aug 7, 2017 17:36:13 GMT
It's an "if" for some due to major butthurt. The cure? This simple form. 1. Major butthurt? Wut? 2. Pic isn't showing for me. All I'm seeing is a placeholder. Some people are overly hurt that MEA didn't do exactly what they wanted. Or that Shep isn't in it, etc... Google Butthurt incident report and have a laugh. I'm on my phone it's why the pic didn't work. But yeah the amount of whining on this forum due to Andromeda not meeting their exact expectations is insane.
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Post by ShadowAngel on Aug 7, 2017 17:40:50 GMT
I'm not sure why another ME is an "if" and not a "when." Regardless, when we get another ME game, and we will, mark my words, surely BW will continue the Ryder saga. ME games always follow a certain protagonist around for whatever story arc they are on and I see no reason for that to change now. They have put far too much time and effort into ME:A to simply throw that all away because a vocal group of those who are truly never satisfied with anything threw a tizzy on the 'net. Last I checked, ME:A was not a financial failure. Sure, it didn't sell CoD-level gangbusters, but it did sell well enough that EA was relatively happy with it. It wasn't a critical failure either, sure, the "mainstream" gaming media gave it average ratings, but even those reviews didn't label it a "bad game" by any means and I can find many outlets that rated it at 80 or higher. Regarding your second paragraph: bioware has stated they won't guarantee they'll have direct sequels or reuse protagonists anymore after ME3, to many things overlapping and the risk of decisions falling over each other becomes to much of a burden. They still said to hold onto our saves just in case, but I'd still be aware or at least not go in with the assumption that Ryder will get more screen time. Andromeda ended in a way where Ryder could be reused and in a way where they're not a necessity for the sequel/future game, probably the first good ending to a bioware game in a long time.
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Post by jaegerbane on Aug 7, 2017 17:41:17 GMT
Tbh I'm more interested in what would happen if we found ourselves in a situation with the Reapers vs the Jaardan (what we know of their motivations put them at literal polar opposites) then any need to tick some artificial 'everything must be new' checkbox. Simply having Reapers in the new Andromeda setting doesn't inherently mean nothing is new. Most of the horror of the Reapers comes from the fact that they've defeated every species in the MW since their rise... they don't have that guarantee in Andromeda. Just think what ST:Voyager did with Borg vs 8472. Well, I don't mean everything must be new. Just that I wouldn't want to see too much of the same, or roughly the same arc play out. A Jaardan-Reaper war could be interesting. Or maybe they could do a psych-out: the Reaper arrives and everyone is like Holy shit! Oh no! And then some unknown new enemy more powerful than the Reapers comes out the woodwork to destroy the Reaper and we have to deal with them. Somewhat. I'm intrigued by the idea of how a force totally dedicated to 'processing' existing life (Reapers) would react to a force that is focused on creating new life (Jaardan). I know their tech is allegedly less advanced that Prothean tech but I suspect they'd still put up a hell of fight, given how most of their tech crosses the line into space magic. We've still also got the wildcard of whoever set off the Scourge, and whoever created that clearly has some insanely advanced grasp of science.
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Post by Iakus on Aug 7, 2017 17:50:32 GMT
1. Major butthurt? Wut? 2. Pic isn't showing for me. All I'm seeing is a placeholder. Some people are overly hurt that MEA didn't do exactly what they wanted. Or that Shep isn't in it, etc... Google Butthurt incident report and have a laugh. I'm on my phone it's why the pic didn't work. But yeah the amount of whining on this forum due to Andromeda not meeting their exact expectations is insane. It's funny how not caring for MEA or it's direction means one has impossibly exacting standards. Who knew?
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Post by jaegerbane on Aug 7, 2017 17:58:47 GMT
Some people are overly hurt that MEA didn't do exactly what they wanted. Or that Shep isn't in it, etc... Google Butthurt incident report and have a laugh. I'm on my phone it's why the pic didn't work. But yeah the amount of whining on this forum due to Andromeda not meeting their exact expectations is insane. It's funny how not caring for MEA or it's direction means one has impossibly exacting standards. Who knew? Was that what he was saying? I certainly recall a lot of complaints about how MEA sucks because it isn't in the MW/doesn't have Shepard/Garrus/Conrad Verner etc etc etc. I don't think anyone would begrudge complaints about pacing issues, relatively inconclusive storyline etc. Unless the implication is that the former is equivalent to the latter?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2017 17:58:48 GMT
I'm not sure why another ME is an "if" and not a "when." Regardless, when we get another ME game, and we will, mark my words, surely BW will continue the Ryder saga. ME games always follow a certain protagonist around for whatever story arc they are on and I see no reason for that to change now. They have put far too much time and effort into ME:A to simply throw that all away because a vocal group of those who are truly never satisfied with anything threw a tizzy on the 'net. Last I checked, ME:A was not a financial failure. Sure, it didn't sell CoD-level gangbusters, but it did sell well enough that EA was relatively happy with it. It wasn't a critical failure either, sure, the "mainstream" gaming media gave it average ratings, but even those reviews didn't label it a "bad game" by any means and I can find many outlets that rated it at 80 or higher. I can find more that gave it a 70 or less... this isn't high school, where low 70's are a B - low 70's is terrible for a AAA game. 196 games have come out for PS4 in 2017. Andromeda is 106/194. Right up there with Psychonauts in the Rhombus of Ruin and Castle Storm: Virtual Reality. I have played many games that scored in the mid 70s that have been great games. 70s seems to me to be the cutoff between a great game and a good game. On Metacritic there are 72 outlets that give it above a 70 and 28 that give it less than a 70 across the 3 platforms ME:A launched on. I would call that a pretty good showing for a game that had the baggage of one of the worst endings in gaming's history. Seems that there are indeed more reviews praising the game than trashing it, contradictory to what you stated. 1. Major butthurt? Wut? 2. Pic isn't showing for me. All I'm seeing is a placeholder. Some people are overly hurt that MEA didn't do exactly what they wanted. Or that Shep isn't in it, etc... Google Butthurt incident report and have a laugh. I'm on my phone it's why the pic didn't work. But yeah the amount of whining on this forum due to Andromeda not meeting their exact expectations is insane. I'm a bit new here, so I haven't seen it all that much yet. As I recall there was an insane amount of whining about every aspect of every ME game to date back on the old BSN. This really is BSN reincarnate! I'm not sure why another ME is an "if" and not a "when." Regardless, when we get another ME game, and we will, mark my words, surely BW will continue the Ryder saga. ME games always follow a certain protagonist around for whatever story arc they are on and I see no reason for that to change now. They have put far too much time and effort into ME:A to simply throw that all away because a vocal group of those who are truly never satisfied with anything threw a tizzy on the 'net. Last I checked, ME:A was not a financial failure. Sure, it didn't sell CoD-level gangbusters, but it did sell well enough that EA was relatively happy with it. It wasn't a critical failure either, sure, the "mainstream" gaming media gave it average ratings, but even those reviews didn't label it a "bad game" by any means and I can find many outlets that rated it at 80 or higher. Regarding your second paragraph: bioware has stated they won't guarantee they'll have direct sequels or reuse protagonists anymore after ME3, to many things overlapping and the risk of decisions falling over each other becomes to much of a burden. They still said to hold onto our saves just in case, but I'd still be aware or at least not go in with the assumption that Ryder will get more screen time. Andromeda ended in a way where Ryder could be reused and in a way where they're not a necessity for the sequel/future game, probably the first good ending to a bioware game in a long time. I took that more as "ME:A won't be another trilogy," but not as a "Ryder will not continue as the protagonist in a sequel." I could be interpreting that wrong of course. Who knows?
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Post by themikefest on Aug 7, 2017 18:05:12 GMT
I would have the sequel take place about 1 month after the events of MEA. The Kett realize that in order to continue with exaltation, the initiative has to be dealt with. Primus, most likely with permission from the Kett bossman, orders they destroy the Nexus. Primus gathers what forces he can that is in the cluster. Within minutes the Nexus is destroyed with most onboard dead. The remaining survivors are able to escape to Eos. With that taken care of, Primus orders the Kett back to business as usual. excellent.
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Post by Iakus on Aug 7, 2017 18:11:20 GMT
It's funny how not caring for MEA or it's direction means one has impossibly exacting standards. Who knew? Was that what he was saying? I certainly recall a lot of complaints about how MEA sucks because it isn't in the MW/doesn't have Shepard/Garrus/Conrad Verner etc etc etc. I don't think anyone would begrudge complaints about pacing issues, relatively inconclusive storyline etc. Unless the implication is that the former is equivalent to the latter? Looking at the previous responses, yeah, I think that's what he was saying. Expressing doubt there will be a sequel to MEA is being "butthurt" Andromeda is "the only way forward" Suggesting Leisure Suit Larry would be more someone's cup of tea if they don't like MEA etc.
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Post by suikoden on Aug 7, 2017 18:11:38 GMT
I can find more that gave it a 70 or less... this isn't high school, where low 70's are a B - low 70's is terrible for a AAA game. 196 games have come out for PS4 in 2017. Andromeda is 106/194. Right up there with Psychonauts in the Rhombus of Ruin and Castle Storm: Virtual Reality. I have played many games that scored in the mid 70s that have been great games. 70s seems to me to be the cutoff between a great game and a good game. On Metacritic there are 72 outlets that give it above a 70 and 28 that give it less than a 70 across the 3 platforms ME:A launched on. I would call that a pretty good showing for a game that had the baggage of one of the worst endings in gaming's history. Seems that there are indeed more reviews praising the game than trashing it, contradictory to what you stated. Some people are overly hurt that MEA didn't do exactly what they wanted. Or that Shep isn't in it, etc... Google Butthurt incident report and have a laugh. I'm on my phone it's why the pic didn't work. But yeah the amount of whining on this forum due to Andromeda not meeting their exact expectations is insane. I'm a bit new here, so I haven't seen it all that much yet. As I recall there was an insane amount of whining about every aspect of every ME game to date back on the old BSN. This really is BSN reincarnate! Regarding your second paragraph: bioware has stated they won't guarantee they'll have direct sequels or reuse protagonists anymore after ME3, to many things overlapping and the risk of decisions falling over each other becomes to much of a burden. They still said to hold onto our saves just in case, but I'd still be aware or at least not go in with the assumption that Ryder will get more screen time. Andromeda ended in a way where Ryder could be reused and in a way where they're not a necessity for the sequel/future game, probably the first good ending to a bioware game in a long time. I took that more as "ME:A won't be another trilogy," but not as a "Ryder will not continue as the protagonist in a sequel." I could be interpreting that wrong of course. Who knows? You're just twisting the numbers to suit your narrative. All the major, well known reviewers reviewed the PS4 version. Combining them all so you can include random foreign reviews in Spanish posted 2 months after release for the Xbox version... aren't helping to prove your point. It's still 106/194. Right up there in that 54% percentile. There's only one AAA game anywhere close to it on that list.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2017 18:12:32 GMT
I'd really rather not see any more of the reapers, ever. I'm pretty much done with them. Enemies that are impossible to defeat without some deus ex machina just aren't very interesting to me. My view of Primus is that he's focused on the kett's original mission in Heleus, and will pick it back up with the Archon out of the way. Either he'll become the new Archon, or the kett will send another Archon from wherever they're located. As near as I can tell, the Archon's real problem was that his fascination with remnant technology took him off track from his original mission. With him gone, any dissension in the kett ranks would be gone, and new leadership could bring them to a laser focus and even greater threat to Heleus. Of course, it's also possible that the kett would retreat from Heleus or become quieter for a time while they rebuild their ranks - temporarily or permanently. That would allow more time to focus on some of the other risks and mysteries Andromeda has posed. Well, I guess this wouldn't need a deux ex machina - if the Reapers sent to Andromeda under this scenario only intended to wipe out the Initiative then I doubt they'd arrive in huge numbers - probably no more than 2-3 Sovereign-class and a few destroyers. Still easily enough to be a threat (the Citadel fleet took a pasting from just one Reaper) but not a galaxy-smashing force. If a reaper force of any size arrived on any populated planet in Heleus and started converting their citizens to reaper creatures, it'd be all over for Heleus. The Ai doesn't have jack in the way of fleets or ground troops - the strongest faction there is probably the angarans. We don't actually know their strength or numbers, but I can't imagine them taking on any reaper forces without a deus ex machina to save the day. The angarans have already been hassled plenty with other species converting their citizens. A reaper invasion would be more of the same for them. I really prefer that Shepard's legacy be complete defeat of the reapers. And I've had my fill of that particular enemy. Consider, too, that if Shepard chose control, s/he'd likely have recalled any reapers chasing the Quarian Ark - or possibly sent more to build relays in Andromeda. It would be difficult to have any reaper presence in Andromeda without affecting someone's choices in MET. And I guess I find any reaper presence outside of The Milky Way and between-galaxy dark space to be unpalatable. The Primus was the Archon's second-in-command, and was clever enough to offer Ryder a deal and ultimately overthrow the Archon. I don't know what the kett's next move is, but already suggested some possibilities. -- Get a new Archon by promoting Primus or the arrival of another sent by their command -- Rebuild their numbers in Heleus, maybe have more sent in from other areas -- Abandon their activities in Heleus, temporarily or permanently Even if the kett abandon Heleus, there will still be a kett presence and threat in Andromeda.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2017 18:18:48 GMT
I have played many games that scored in the mid 70s that have been great games. 70s seems to me to be the cutoff between a great game and a good game. On Metacritic there are 72 outlets that give it above a 70 and 28 that give it less than a 70 across the 3 platforms ME:A launched on. I would call that a pretty good showing for a game that had the baggage of one of the worst endings in gaming's history. Seems that there are indeed more reviews praising the game than trashing it, contradictory to what you stated. You're just twisting the numbers to suit your narrative. All the major, well known reviewers reviewed the PS4 version. Combining them all so you can include random foreign reviews in Spanish posted 2 months after release for the Xbox version... aren't helping to prove your point. It's still 106/194. Right up there in that 54% percentile. There's only one AAA game anywhere close to it on that list. I gave you the raw numbers, yet I am twisting them to meet my narrative? You are the one saying, and I quote: "Combining them all so you can include random foreign reviews in Spanish posted 2 months after release for the Xbox version." Obviously that outlet was good enough to be included in the Metactitic review roundup. If you want to throw the numbers out based on your personal tastes, be my guest, but don't turn around and say I am skewing anything when you do so unabashedly. That's just boldfaced dishonesty.
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Post by vonuber on Aug 7, 2017 18:21:42 GMT
You're just twisting the numbers to suit your narrative. My irony meter just exploded.
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You're just twisting the numbers to suit your narrative. My irony meter just exploded. I had to do a double take to to make sure I was reading that right... I am confused.
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Post by suikoden on Aug 7, 2017 18:27:06 GMT
You're just twisting the numbers to suit your narrative. All the major, well known reviewers reviewed the PS4 version. Combining them all so you can include random foreign reviews in Spanish posted 2 months after release for the Xbox version... aren't helping to prove your point. It's still 106/194. Right up there in that 54% percentile. There's only one AAA game anywhere close to it on that list. I gave you the raw numbers, yet I am twisting them to meet my narrative? You are the one saying, and I quote: "Combining them all so you can include random foreign reviews in Spanish posted 2 months after release for the Xbox version." Obviously that outlet was good enough to be included in the Metactitic review roundup. If you want to throw the numbers out based on your personal tastes, be my guest, but don't turn around and say I am skewing anything when you do so unabashedly. That's just boldfaced dishonesty. 106/194. That's shit.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2017 18:28:40 GMT
I gave you the raw numbers, yet I am twisting them to meet my narrative? You are the one saying, and I quote: "Combining them all so you can include random foreign reviews in Spanish posted 2 months after release for the Xbox version." Obviously that outlet was good enough to be included in the Metactitic review roundup. If you want to throw the numbers out based on your personal tastes, be my guest, but don't turn around and say I am skewing anything when you do so unabashedly. That's just boldfaced dishonesty. 106/194. That's shit. You keep repeating that number but have yet to disclose where it comes from or what it correlates to.
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Post by suikoden on Aug 7, 2017 18:33:34 GMT
My irony meter just exploded. I had to do a double to to make sure I was reading that right... I am confused. All the respectable reviewers - reviewed the PS4 version. It's like they're the major league reviewers. While the Xbox and PC versions get the minor league, single-a reviews that carry less weight. They post under those platforms because they know they'd be buried in the PS4 reviews and would carry less weight. Easier to stand out and get clicks when they know people like you will oblige them. It's like how people don't recognize Ichiro's Japanese hits towards his professional stats, because the quality does not compare.
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Post by majesticjazz on Aug 7, 2017 18:34:06 GMT
So how many years do you think they should fast forward the story? I say 50 years to give things time to develop. Depending on where the other plot threads lead, it could pick up immediately after MEA ended. Maybe 6-12 months to allow time for the dust to settle, the Nexus construction to complete, the inhabitants of the other cryo pods to be awakened and start populating the Nexus and the outposts. The Eos outpost could grow to the point of annexing the original failed outposts there. Regardless of the Quarian Ark status, there's still the scourge, the whole remnant backstory, the Jaardan backstory, the mysteries around the benefactor, and even though the Archon is finished in the cluster, Primus is still out there with an agenda, along with other contingents of kett that exist elsewhere. I'd like to see Ryder & crew continue what they started. But why does it have to be Ryder to continue it? I do not see why fighting the Kett and unlocking many mysteries is something exclusive to Ryder to where only he/she can solve.
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Post by suikoden on Aug 7, 2017 18:34:58 GMT
You keep repeating that number but have yet to disclose where it comes from or what it correlates to. There's 105 games that came out for PS4 that received better reviews in 2017 alone. This is the second time I've explained that to you now. The trilogy would have been in the top ten.
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Post by Guts on Aug 7, 2017 18:36:05 GMT
I'm not sure why another ME is an "if" and not a "when." Regardless, when we get another ME game, and we will, mark my words, surely BW will continue the Ryder saga. ME games always follow a certain protagonist around for whatever story arc they are on and I see no reason for that to change now. They have put far too much time and effort into ME:A to simply throw that all away because a vocal group of those who are truly never satisfied with anything threw a tizzy on the 'net. Last I checked, ME:A was not a financial failure. Sure, it didn't sell CoD-level gangbusters, but it did sell well enough that EA was relatively happy with it. It wasn't a critical failure either, sure, the "mainstream" gaming media gave it average ratings, but even those reviews didn't label it a "bad game" by any means and I can find many outlets that rated it at 80 or higher. I can find more that gave it a 70 or less... this isn't high school, where low 70's are a B - low 70's is terrible for a AAA game. 196 games have come out for PS4 in 2017. Andromeda is 106/194. Right up there with Psychonauts in the Rhombus of Ruin and Castle Storm: Virtual Reality. Erm. Idk what school system you have, but where I live, low 70's are a C-. That's not a very good score, sure it's passable, but it's just average, mediocre, etc. From what I looked up, a lot of reviewers still have generally favorable things to say about it, but a good amount of people felt that it wouldn't outshine the OT and was a disappointment. I think with video game reviews, a 5/10 is considered mediocre and 7/10 is generally considered good, but VERY flawed.)
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Post by griffith82 on Aug 7, 2017 18:37:46 GMT
Was that what he was saying? I certainly recall a lot of complaints about how MEA sucks because it isn't in the MW/doesn't have Shepard/Garrus/Conrad Verner etc etc etc. I don't think anyone would begrudge complaints about pacing issues, relatively inconclusive storyline etc. Unless the implication is that the former is equivalent to the latter? Looking at the previous responses, yeah, I think that's what he was saying. Expressing doubt there will be a sequel to MEA is being "butthurt" Andromeda is "the only way forward" Suggesting Leisure Suit Larry would be more someone's cup of tea if they don't like MEA etc. The last comment about a Leisure suit Larry was meant as a joke but maybe uncalled for. I apologize. However no that's not what I was saying. You can express doubt all you want. It's when you twist facts to suit your narrative. Constantly complaining that we never should have left the MW, constant comparisons to Shep etc...
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Post by suikoden on Aug 7, 2017 18:37:51 GMT
I can find more that gave it a 70 or less... this isn't high school, where low 70's are a B - low 70's is terrible for a AAA game. 196 games have come out for PS4 in 2017. Andromeda is 106/194. Right up there with Psychonauts in the Rhombus of Ruin and Castle Storm: Virtual Reality. Erm. Idk what school system you have, but where I live, low 70's are a C-. That's not a very good score, sure it's passable, but it's just average, mediocre, etc. From what I looked up, a lot of reviewers still have generally favorable things to say about it, but a good amount of people felt that it wouldn't outshine the OT and was a disappointment. I think with video game reviews, a 5/10 is considered mediocre and 7/10 is generally considered good, but VERY flawed.) I think it skews - 7/10 is good for an indie game, bad for a 100m AAA game.
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Post by griffith82 on Aug 7, 2017 18:39:01 GMT
Depending on where the other plot threads lead, it could pick up immediately after MEA ended. Maybe 6-12 months to allow time for the dust to settle, the Nexus construction to complete, the inhabitants of the other cryo pods to be awakened and start populating the Nexus and the outposts. The Eos outpost could grow to the point of annexing the original failed outposts there. Regardless of the Quarian Ark status, there's still the scourge, the whole remnant backstory, the Jaardan backstory, the mysteries around the benefactor, and even though the Archon is finished in the cluster, Primus is still out there with an agenda, along with other contingents of kett that exist elsewhere. I'd like to see Ryder & crew continue what they started. But why does it have to be Ryder to continue it? I do not see why fighting the Kett and unlocking many mysteries is something exclusive to Ryder to where only he/she can solve. It doesn't. But Ryder is a good protagonist who deserves more than one game. Shep grew over time too.
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Post by smilesja on Aug 7, 2017 18:40:36 GMT
I had to do a double to to make sure I was reading that right... I am confused. All the respectable reviewers - reviewed the PS4 version. It's like they're the major league reviewers. While the Xbox and PC versions get the minor league, single-a reviews that carry less weight. They post under those platforms because they know they'd be buried in the PS4 reviews and would carry less weight. Easier to stand out and get clicks when they know people like you will oblige them. It's like how people don't recognize Ichiro's Japanese hits towards his professional stats, because the quality does not compare. I don't think it's fair or accurate using just the PS4 numbers is a fair assment. Even if its used by major reviewers. It's important to get as many reviews from all platforms as possible to get an accurate view of how ME: A was viewed by the critics.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2017 18:42:15 GMT
I had to do a double to to make sure I was reading that right... I am confused. All the respectable reviewers - reviewed the PS4 version. It's like they're the major league reviewers. While the Xbox and PC versions get the minor league, single-a reviews that carry less weight. They post under those platforms because they know they'd be buried in the PS4 reviews and would carry less weight. Easier to stand out and get clicks when they know people like you will oblige them. It's like how people don't recognize Ichiro's Japanese hits towards his professional stats, because the quality does not compare. And I wouldn't touch many of those "respected reviews" I automatically discard more than half of them do to past ethical issues. Truth be told, neither my nor your opinion matters on the credibility of said outlets. How that get clicks or they're business practices matters not here. It's irrelevant fluff. You keep repeating that number but have yet to disclose where it comes from or what it correlates to. There's 105 games that came out for PS4 that received better reviews in 2017 alone. The trilogy would have been in the top ten. I provided raw review data based around all platforms that ME:A came out on yet you insist on limiting it to one platform & only reviews outlets you approve of. That sounds like cherry picking to me. Also, the Trilogy wound't have been top 10 as it never released on the PS4. You are extrapolating based on past console generations and that on its own is suspect.
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