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Post by Guts on Aug 7, 2017 19:25:02 GMT
I think for a sequel they should have you going to another cluster in Andromeda that HASN'T been colonized, that way the whole exploration theme is better handled. Also I think weapons needs to be hidden in the environment, kinda like Doom, which expands on the exploration theme from a gameplay perspective. Idk about weapons unless you're talking about upgrades like in ME3 or some hidden weapons. But searching for weapons in an RPG not a good idea. I mean both searching for weapon upgrades and searching for weapons. Deus ex did this and that game is considered by a lot of people to be one of the greatest if not the greatest game ever made.
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Post by Guts on Aug 7, 2017 19:25:41 GMT
That's my viewpoint on Synthesis, plus it really does turn the crucible into even more of a Deus Ex Machina. At least with destroy you have a chance to fuck up the entire galaxy. My two go to Paragon choices are Synthesis and Controll. I don't hate Synthesis I actually liked it. Nothing wrong with that.
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Post by griffith82 on Aug 7, 2017 19:26:49 GMT
Idk about weapons unless you're talking about upgrades like in ME3 or some hidden weapons. But searching for weapons in an RPG not a good idea. I mean both searching for weapon upgrades and searching for weapons. Deus ex did this and that game is considered by a lot of people to be one of the greatest if not the greatest game ever made. Yeah but back then random enemies and all that weren't really a thing. I mean today most likely the weapon you need would be swarming with bad guys.
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Post by Guts on Aug 7, 2017 19:28:59 GMT
I mean both searching for weapon upgrades and searching for weapons. Deus ex did this and that game is considered by a lot of people to be one of the greatest if not the greatest game ever made. Yeah but back then random enemies and all that weren't really a thing. I mean today most likely the weapon you need would be swarming with bad guys. Another idea is doing certain sidequests in order to get certain weapons. A lot of RPGs do this iirc.
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Post by griffith82 on Aug 7, 2017 19:29:17 GMT
My two go to Paragon choices are Synthesis and Controll. I don't hate Synthesis I actually liked it. Nothing wrong with that. A civilized response? Here?!
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Post by griffith82 on Aug 7, 2017 19:29:35 GMT
Yeah but back then random enemies and all that weren't really a thing. I mean today most likely the weapon you need would be swarming with bad guys. Another idea is doing certain sidequests in order to get certain weapons. A lot of RPGs do this iirc. That I'd like.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2017 19:30:47 GMT
Alright put it this way - if Andromeda was on par with the quality of the trilogy, it would be in the top ten, not the bottom 100. If I listed off any of the games reviewed similarly to Andromeda, I doubt anyone would wax on about how these were "good" or "very good" games, because they are not. Again, the carefully pruned numbers from which you draw your arguments from are suspect as they are discounting 2 other platforms and lesser know outlets whereas I provided raw review tallies with no biases whilst making my cutoff values known. Again, I have made my source known whilst you conceal yours. I sense anterior motive as in a need to beat someone down with you opinion, not an honest desire engage in a debate. At best, you desire some form a pyrrhic victory. If you insist on running limited stats and refuse to acknowledge the raw review tally numbers that I initially gathered whilst nullifying said numbers with a wave of the hand, then I'll have to insist on disengaging from this "debate" as there in absolutely no solid foundation to initially stand on and therefore, no initial common ground on which to argue. You can't argue with someone deeply committed to confirmation bias.
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Post by majesticjazz on Aug 7, 2017 19:31:32 GMT
Also MET was planned from the beginning to be a trilogy and the story of Shepard. MEA was essentially Bioware/EA doing a curtain call/encore for the ME brand but in a new setting. It was never planned to be a trilogy nor was it planned to be the story of Ryder. If they do continue with Ryder, I want them to fast forward 10 years to male Ryder more mature and less of a Jason Wedon character who jokes too much and isnt assertive. I give Ryder a pass in MEA cause Ryder was young (22ish) and not experienced/confident. If there is a MEA2 and Ryder is again the hero, what would be the excuse this time? A hardened Ryder with a crew that is just as hardened would be something I would want. Also 1 squad member that is young (18-22) where Ryder could mold and mentor. Playing femRyder was like playing a 11th grade HS girl. I'd rather he/she evolve naturally instead of a huge jump like that. Ryder changed significantly from the start of the game and the end. Also I think you are exaggerating quite a bit, no way was either Ryder like a 17 year old. IDK, Aloy from Horizon was of similar age and experience as Ryder and yet she was more mature than Ryder. It it something that the writers would need to fix or shouldn't have let happen in the first place.
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Post by Guts on Aug 7, 2017 19:31:33 GMT
Another idea is doing certain sidequests in order to get certain weapons. A lot of RPGs do this iirc. That I'd like. The same would also apply to the weapon upgrades and resources, this way you could do away with the planet scanning people had a problem with.
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Post by Guts on Aug 7, 2017 19:32:17 GMT
A civilized response? Here?! I happen to come from another dimension. :3
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Post by Guts on Aug 7, 2017 19:34:53 GMT
I'd rather he/she evolve naturally instead of a huge jump like that. Ryder changed significantly from the start of the game and the end. Also I think you are exaggerating quite a bit, no way was either Ryder like a 17 year old. IDK, Aloy from Horizon was of similar age and experience as Ryder and yet she was more mature than Ryder. It it something that the writers would need to fix or shouldn't have let happen in the first place. I think it depends on the person really, I mean a lot of people at my former highschool were immature sex-crazed morons and weebs. Granted I was lustful and did some things that I regret (No sex involved) but on the whole I felt I was more mature than some of the people at my highschool.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2017 19:37:53 GMT
Again, the carefully pruned numbers from which you draw your arguments from are suspect as they are discounting 2 other platforms and lesser know outlets whereas I provided raw review tallies with no biases whilst making my cutoff values known. Again, I have made my source known whilst you conceal yours. I sense anterior motive as in a need to beat someone down with you opinion, not an honest desire engage in a debate. At best, you desire some form a pyrrhic victory. If you insist on running limited stats and refuse to acknowledge the raw review tally numbers that I initially gathered whilst nullifying said numbers with a wave of the hand, then I'll have to insist on disengaging from this "debate" as there in absolutely no solid foundation to initially stand on and therefore, no initial common ground on which to argue. You can't argue with someone deeply committed to confirmation bias. No, you cannot.
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Post by majesticjazz on Aug 7, 2017 19:37:59 GMT
Also MET was planned from the beginning to be a trilogy and the story of Shepard. MEA was essentially Bioware/EA doing a curtain call/encore for the ME brand but in a new setting. It was never planned to be a trilogy nor was it planned to be the story of Ryder. If they do continue with Ryder, I want them to fast forward 10 years to male Ryder more mature and less of a Jason Wedon character who jokes too much and isnt assertive. I give Ryder a pass in MEA cause Ryder was young (22ish) and not experienced/confident. If there is a MEA2 and Ryder is again the hero, what would be the excuse this time? A hardened Ryder with a crew that is just as hardened would be something I would want. Also 1 squad member that is young (18-22) where Ryder could mold and mentor. Playing femRyder was like playing a 11th grade HS girl. I'd rather he/she evolve naturally instead of a huge jump like that. Ryder changed significantly from the start of the game and the end. Also I think you are exaggerating quite a bit, no way was either Ryder like a 17 year old. There were many moments in the game where if you didnt know the age of the character and jusy closed your eyes and listened to the dialog, you could see a HS girl talking. The whole femRyder initially flirting with Suvi is a prime example and was very cringe worthy.
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Post by majesticjazz on Aug 7, 2017 19:38:24 GMT
Also MET was planned from the beginning to be a trilogy and the story of Shepard. MEA was essentially Bioware/EA doing a curtain call/encore for the ME brand but in a new setting. It was never planned to be a trilogy nor was it planned to be the story of Ryder. If they do continue with Ryder, I want them to fast forward 10 years to male Ryder more mature and less of a Jason Wedon character who jokes too much and isnt assertive. I give Ryder a pass in MEA cause Ryder was young (22ish) and not experienced/confident. If there is a MEA2 and Ryder is again the hero, what would be the excuse this time? A hardened Ryder with a crew that is just as hardened would be something I would want. Also 1 squad member that is young (18-22) where Ryder could mold and mentor. Playing femRyder was like playing a 11th grade HS girl. I'd rather he/she evolve naturally instead of a huge jump like that. Ryder changed significantly from the start of the game and the end. Also I think you are exaggerating quite a bit, no way was either Ryder like a 17 year old. There were many moments in the game where if you didnt know the age of the character and jusy closed your eyes and listened to the dialog, you could see a HS girl talking. The whole femRyder initially flirting with Suvi is a prime example and was very cringe worthy.
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Post by griffith82 on Aug 7, 2017 19:39:31 GMT
A civilized response? Here?! I happen to come from another dimension. :3 Hmmm you wouldn't be this guy perchance?😁😋
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Post by jaegerbane on Aug 7, 2017 19:39:58 GMT
I'd rather he/she evolve naturally instead of a huge jump like that. Ryder changed significantly from the start of the game and the end. Also I think you are exaggerating quite a bit, no way was either Ryder like a 17 year old. IDK, Aloy from Horizon was of similar age and experience as Ryder and yet she was more mature than Ryder. That wasn't the comparison. Aloy grew up as an outcast in a post-apocalyptic world, her level of maturity at a young age is not a sensible yardstick to measure Ryder by. It's like getting annoyed with child actors playing kids because the girl who played Newt in Aliens played her as a traumatised survivor. Ryder certainly had maturity issues early in the game but people acting like it incredibly impossible that a 20-something would act like a 20-something need to reflect on their own argument.
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Post by Guts on Aug 7, 2017 19:42:58 GMT
I happen to come from another dimension. :3 Hmmm you wouldn't be this guy perchance?😁😋 Close but no Cigar, I am actually this guy.
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Post by griffith82 on Aug 7, 2017 19:45:34 GMT
I'd rather he/she evolve naturally instead of a huge jump like that. Ryder changed significantly from the start of the game and the end. Also I think you are exaggerating quite a bit, no way was either Ryder like a 17 year old. There were many moments in the game where if you didnt know the age of the character and jusy closed your eyes and listened to the dialog, you could see a HS girl talking. The whole femRyder initially flirting with Suvi is a prime example and was very cringe worthy. First it's meant to be awkward. Second it looks a lot better now.
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Post by Guts on Aug 7, 2017 19:46:24 GMT
I'd rather he/she evolve naturally instead of a huge jump like that. Ryder changed significantly from the start of the game and the end. Also I think you are exaggerating quite a bit, no way was either Ryder like a 17 year old. There were many moments in the game where if you didnt know the age of the character and jusy closed your eyes and listened to the dialog, you could see a HS girl talking. The whole femRyder initially flirting with Suvi is a prime example and was very cringe worthy. Initial flirting with Peebee was also kinda cringe-worthy, but it got better later on.
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Post by griffith82 on Aug 7, 2017 19:47:17 GMT
Hmmm you wouldn't be this guy perchance?😁😋 Close but no Cigar, I am actually this guy. Lol.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2017 19:53:34 GMT
I'd rather he/she evolve naturally instead of a huge jump like that. Ryder changed significantly from the start of the game and the end. Also I think you are exaggerating quite a bit, no way was either Ryder like a 17 year old. There were many moments in the game where if you didnt know the age of the character and jusy closed your eyes and listened to the dialog, you could see a HS girl talking. Or a 40-year-old with a Ph.D. Some people are chatty. An initial, honest expression of interest in someone is usually a bit awkward. Some people dink around with clever lines, hoping the other party will go first. Ryder was brave enough to put it out there, which is a lot riskier when it's someone you work beside.
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Post by suikoden on Aug 7, 2017 19:56:14 GMT
Alright put it this way - if Andromeda was on par with the quality of the trilogy, it would be in the top ten, not the bottom 100. If I listed off any of the games reviewed similarly to Andromeda, I doubt anyone would wax on about how these were "good" or "very good" games, because they are not. Again, the carefully pruned numbers from which you draw your arguments from are suspect as they are discounting 2 other platforms and lesser know outlets whereas I provided raw review tallies with no biases whilst making my cutoff values known. Again, I have made my source known whilst you conceal yours. I sense anterior motive as in a need to beat someone down with you opinion, not an honest desire engage in a debate. At best, you desire some form a pyrrhic victory. If you insist on running limited stats and refuse to acknowledge the raw review tally numbers that I initially gathered whilst nullifying said numbers with a wave of the hand, then I'll have to insist on disengaging from this "debate" as there in absolutely no solid foundation to initially stand on and therefore, no initial common ground on which to argue. I'm using PS4 metacritic numbers. There's a list on there that ranks games for the year. If you'd like I could easily combine all the lists for PS4, Xbox and PC - but then the results would make Andromeda appear even worse.
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Post by suikoden on Aug 7, 2017 19:57:59 GMT
Again, the carefully pruned numbers from which you draw your arguments from are suspect as they are discounting 2 other platforms and lesser know outlets whereas I provided raw review tallies with no biases whilst making my cutoff values known. Again, I have made my source known whilst you conceal yours. I sense anterior motive as in a need to beat someone down with you opinion, not an honest desire engage in a debate. At best, you desire some form a pyrrhic victory. If you insist on running limited stats and refuse to acknowledge the raw review tally numbers that I initially gathered whilst nullifying said numbers with a wave of the hand, then I'll have to insist on disengaging from this "debate" as there in absolutely no solid foundation to initially stand on and therefore, no initial common ground on which to argue. You can't argue with someone deeply committed to confirmation bias. Well thats why you're on this forum, isn't it?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2017 20:11:36 GMT
Again, the carefully pruned numbers from which you draw your arguments from are suspect as they are discounting 2 other platforms and lesser know outlets whereas I provided raw review tallies with no biases whilst making my cutoff values known. Again, I have made my source known whilst you conceal yours. I sense anterior motive as in a need to beat someone down with you opinion, not an honest desire engage in a debate. At best, you desire some form a pyrrhic victory. If you insist on running limited stats and refuse to acknowledge the raw review tally numbers that I initially gathered whilst nullifying said numbers with a wave of the hand, then I'll have to insist on disengaging from this "debate" as there in absolutely no solid foundation to initially stand on and therefore, no initial common ground on which to argue. I'm using PS4 metacritic numbers. There's a list on there that ranks games for the year. If you'd like I could easily combine all the lists for PS4, Xbox and PC - but then the results would make Andromeda appear even worse. Please do. Considering ME:A's score was higher on Both PC and Xbox, I am highly suspicious of your "then the results would make Andromeda appear even worse." claim. Also, provide you methodology for combining these lists as well as how you did it, for record's sake. Keep in mind though that the rankings for ME:A are much better in the 2017 Xbox list and significantly better in the 2017 PC list. There is no possible way for said lists to make the game worse. There are also games included on those lists that are nearly unheard of as well as games no hardcore gamer of any stripe would even consider purchasing let alone renting. I still don't see how any of these lists of relative score somehow proves ME:A is a "bad game" let alone matter as outliers are included in overall review scores. The mean sans outliers would be a much more accurate statistic as per the general rules of statistics. Since enjoyment of a video game is purely opinion based, you won't change my attitude towards ME:A, so if you are trying, I would advise against it as you are wasting your time.
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Post by Guts on Aug 7, 2017 20:13:32 GMT
Again, the carefully pruned numbers from which you draw your arguments from are suspect as they are discounting 2 other platforms and lesser know outlets whereas I provided raw review tallies with no biases whilst making my cutoff values known. Again, I have made my source known whilst you conceal yours. I sense anterior motive as in a need to beat someone down with you opinion, not an honest desire engage in a debate. At best, you desire some form a pyrrhic victory. If you insist on running limited stats and refuse to acknowledge the raw review tally numbers that I initially gathered whilst nullifying said numbers with a wave of the hand, then I'll have to insist on disengaging from this "debate" as there in absolutely no solid foundation to initially stand on and therefore, no initial common ground on which to argue. I'm using PS4 metacritic numbers. There's a list on there that ranks games for the year. If you'd like I could easily combine all the lists for PS4, Xbox and PC - but then the results would make Andromeda appear even worse. Are you also using the user scores?
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