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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2017 0:56:55 GMT
suikoden Also, never once did I post without checking the facts. The truth is... I find your facts completely irrelevant to whether or not I or many others subjectively enjoy a game and continuously referring to review scores doesn't prove jack shit. Have you forgotten that the gaming press is largely regarded as a bad joke these days? Facts are facts. I listed the metacritic facts that you incorrectly alluded to. Where did I allude to them incorrectly, exactly?
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Post by suikoden on Aug 8, 2017 1:04:57 GMT
Facts are facts. I listed the metacritic facts that you incorrectly alluded to. Where did I allude to them incorrectly, exactly? Keep in mind though that the rankings for ME:A are much better in the 2017 Xbox list and significantly better in the 2017 PC list. They're not significantly better for PC - the rankings are identical as I previously told you. They're better for Xbox, but Xbox has the least amount of reviews and the least amount of games released so statistically it's the most likely to have a higher ranking. It'd most likely deviate to the norm all things being equal between itself and PS4/PC.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2017 1:09:10 GMT
Where did I allude to them incorrectly, exactly? Keep in mind though that the rankings for ME:A are much better in the 2017 Xbox list and significantly better in the 2017 PC list. They're not significantly better for PC - the rankings are identical as I previously told you. They're better for Xbox, but Xbox has the least amount of reviews and the least amount of games released so statistically it's the most likely to have a higher ranking. It'd most likely deviate to the norm all things being equal between itself and PS4/PC. ME:A is higher ranked on both PC and Xbox lists. What is the problem here? Significantly was the correct term to use as it was the ranking was higher by a significant, i.e. relevant amount. What is the problem here? If anything, you are just splitting hairs.
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Post by suikoden on Aug 8, 2017 1:11:10 GMT
Keep in mind though that the rankings for ME:A are much better in the 2017 Xbox list and significantly better in the 2017 PC list. They're not significantly better for PC - the rankings are identical as I previously told you. They're better for Xbox, but Xbox has the least amount of reviews and the least amount of games released so statistically it's the most likely to have a higher ranking. It'd most likely deviate to the norm all things being equal between itself and PS4/PC. ME:A is higher ranked on both PC and Xbox lists. What is the problem here? Significantly was the correct term to use as it was the ranking was higher by a significant, i.e. relevant amount. What is the problem here? If anything, you are just splitting hairs. There's less PC games - statistically based on where it ranks vs how many games were released for PC, it's ranking is identical to what it is on PS4.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2017 1:13:03 GMT
ME:A is higher ranked on both PC and Xbox lists. What is the problem here? Significantly was the correct term to use as it was the ranking was higher by a significant, i.e. relevant amount. What is the problem here? If anything, you are just splitting hairs. There's less PC games - statistically based on where it ranks vs how many games were released for PC, it's ranking is identical to what it is on PS4. And? it is also rated higher on the PC.
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Post by smilesja on Aug 8, 2017 2:19:43 GMT
That's just the truth. He posted what he thought was true without checking the facts. People on the forum gave him support and attacked me in the process. I have higher standards than most people when it comes to games. Also not an attack. Read his post, that's an attack. You don't know anything about other people's standards.
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Post by vonuber on Aug 8, 2017 9:25:09 GMT
There's less PC games - statistically based on where it ranks vs how many games were released for PC, it's ranking is identical to what it is on PS4. 25 pages of pc games on metacritic. 6 of ps4. 5 of xbone.
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Post by jasonpogo on Aug 8, 2017 13:42:12 GMT
Make it like 30 or 40 years later. This way we can get the original cast back to tie up some of their loose story ends. But also enough time to evolve the world and give them a real foothold in the new galaxy.
Also I think we should play the Pathfinder again. But this time let us choose which one. So you could be the Turian, Asari, Human, Salarian, and maybe Quarian? It would be easy to just say that since human ark SAM was such a success that the others were upgraded to allow for profiles again.
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Post by ShadowAngel on Aug 8, 2017 14:05:08 GMT
I imagine Ryder SAM will be one of a kind and can't be replicated since daddy Ryder is dead. The other pathfinders are stuck with the originals unless they modify their own in their own special ways.
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Post by Cyberstrike on Aug 8, 2017 14:17:27 GMT
I would say 5-10 years would be better, it allows enough time for the AI and the angara to get their shit together then have the antagonists tear it apart. Plus I would love to see a duel protagonist game (the only story based game that I've know that did is Legacy of Kain: Defiance) where you have to play as BOTH Ryder twins. They should make the Ryder twin that you didn't play the Governor of Meridian (or something to that effect) and have him/her gather a crew of new characters (and maybe some from the Tempest) and they chase down the benefactor/Garson's murder, deal with a major political scandal that can shatter the alliance with the angara that could lead to a civil war between some of the colonies and the Nexus and they have to deal with the "dark side" of Alex Ryder's legacy.
While Pathfinder Ryder (the one you play in ME:A) is looking for more worlds to colonize, info on the Jardaan and the kett, the quarian ark and a cure for Ellen Ryder, dealing with the romantic relationship problems, various problems the crew of the Tempest are having, plus having to deal with whatever the new threat is.
Both storylines MUST come together and the Ryder twins and their respective teams have to fight each other and you the player can decide which team dies. With the final decision being that you can stop a civil war before it begins or start a civil war that threatens to tear the AI in half.
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Post by jasonpogo on Aug 8, 2017 14:21:38 GMT
Both storylines MUST come together and the Ryder twins have to fight each other and their respective teams have to fight each other and you the player can decide which team dies. You can stop a civil war before it begins or start a civil war that tears the AI in half. [be] You had me up to this point. That is SO out of place in the world and things they already built.
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Post by cypherj on Aug 8, 2017 14:39:07 GMT
They need to kick the ball down the road a century at least to where they're really established. Intergalactic travel, established cities not fledgling colonies, government, etc.
The population is what about 150K total for all the races, limited ships, limited everything. They just need to fast forward, you can walk into a museum to learn about the great deeds and contributions Pathfinders made towards establishing Andromeda.
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Post by kino on Aug 8, 2017 14:48:29 GMT
I think 40 to 50 yrs would leave some of the human crew out of place and maybe Drack dead. I'd be okay with 5 to 10 years further out. Age the Ryder's up a little.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2017 15:04:05 GMT
they should wait for maybe a thousand years, then have the races in Andromeda getting utterly wiped out by the reapers.
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Post by majesticjazz on Aug 8, 2017 15:11:04 GMT
Assuming there will even be a MEA2, I hope it takes place 25-50 years later and features a new hero and cast of squadmates.
I understand what Bioware was trying to do with Ryder and her/his adolescence, but standing up against Shepard, Hawke, Revan, and The Warden.....Ryder fails to have the same appeal in my opinion.
Only time will tell just how popular Ryder really is in comparison to other Bioware heros.
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Post by normandy on Aug 8, 2017 15:15:15 GMT
I really hope we get to play as Ryder again, so ~10 year gap is good enough for me.
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Post by majesticjazz on Aug 8, 2017 15:20:47 GMT
I really hope we get to play as Ryder again, so ~10 year gap is good enough for me. And if that is the case, Ryder needs to act more mature, take things seriously, and be given a fresh cast of characters as squadmates.
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Post by jasonpogo on Aug 8, 2017 15:29:04 GMT
So I know she was kind of polarizing but I hope it is like a 30 40 year gap just to see the relationship with PeeBee if you romanced her. We hear allot about how long lived Asari are. But it would be neat to see an older Ryder still with a young and virtually unchanged PeeBee.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Aug 8, 2017 16:25:15 GMT
Make it like 30 or 40 years later. This way we can get the original cast back to tie up some of their loose story ends. But also enough time to evolve the world and give them a real foothold in the new galaxy. Also I think we should play the Pathfinder again. But this time let us choose which one. So you could be the Turian, Asari, Human, Salarian, and maybe Quarian? It would be easy to just say that since human ark SAM was such a success that the others were upgraded to allow for profiles again. I'd say instead of 30-40 years later, have it be more like 3-4. That gives enough time for things to settle in Heleus and we can expand further into Andromeda while fixing up the loose ends regarding Ryder's story while still being Ryder. Once we are finished with Ryder's story, next hero I absolutely agree they should allow us to have race selection. I don't know if we should be a Pathfinder again since that has been done, but have some role where those races can fit.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2017 16:28:46 GMT
suikoden when will learn that when you call people tasteless, blind, and apologists that those are considered insults? Why don't you just insult someone's family and get it over with? I haven't called anyone blind or tasteless. I said that: a) There's a lot of apologists for Andromeda on this forum. Here's the definition, because you seem to think it's a bad word - "a person who offers an argument in defense of something controversial" - saying Andromeda is a great game, is controversial. Actually, it's a just an opinion. Calling people apologists is hanging a derogatory label on them because they happen to like something that you dislike. The very notion that something needs to be defended suggests that there is something wrong with it. Example: Some people really dislike the taste (and smell) of liver, while others enjoy it. People who like liver are not liver apologists; they simply like something that others do not. By setting yourself up as an individual with "higher" standards, you are proclaiming that those whose tastes do not align with yours necessarily have lower standards than yours. This declares you as having superior tastes, thus anyone who does not share them must have inferior tastes. You really don't get it, do you?
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Post by griffith82 on Aug 8, 2017 16:38:37 GMT
I haven't called anyone blind or tasteless. I said that: a) There's a lot of apologists for Andromeda on this forum. Here's the definition, because you seem to think it's a bad word - "a person who offers an argument in defense of something controversial" - saying Andromeda is a great game, is controversial. Actually, it's a just an opinion. Calling people apologists is hanging a derogatory label on them because they happen to like something that you dislike. The very notion that something needs to be defended suggests that there is something wrong with it. Example: Some people really dislike the taste (and smell) of liver, while others enjoy it. People who like liver are not liver apologists; they simply like something that others do not. By setting yourself up as an individual with "higher" standards, you are proclaiming that those whose tastes do not align with yours necessarily have lower standards than yours. This declares you as having superior tastes, thus anyone who does not share them must have inferior tastes. You really don't get it, do you? No he doesn't, and likely never will.
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Post by griffith82 on Aug 8, 2017 16:41:02 GMT
Make it like 30 or 40 years later. This way we can get the original cast back to tie up some of their loose story ends. But also enough time to evolve the world and give them a real foothold in the new galaxy. Also I think we should play the Pathfinder again. But this time let us choose which one. So you could be the Turian, Asari, Human, Salarian, and maybe Quarian? It would be easy to just say that since human ark SAM was such a success that the others were upgraded to allow for profiles again. I'd say instead of 30-40 years later, have it be more like 3-4. That gives enough time for things to settle in Heleus and we can expand further into Andromeda while fixing up the loose ends regarding Ryder's story while still being Ryder. Once we are finished with Ryder's story, next hero I absolutely agree they should allow us to have race selection. I don't know if we should be a Pathfinder again since that has been done, but have some role where those races can fit. I can get behind that.
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Post by Trilobite Derby on Aug 8, 2017 16:47:54 GMT
I really want another character import, same protagonist, series of games.
Part of the reason the original Mass Effect trilogy is my very huggy favorite is because it's a trilogy, with three games to get to know and love characters who were just kind of there in the first game (hi, Tali).
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2017 16:57:29 GMT
6-12 months is plenty of time for the dust to settle, the Nexus to be fully built, the other colonists to come out of cryo, the vaults to completely shift the climate of the outpost worlds, etc. With an influx of people from cryo pods, the Eos outpost could grow to annex the initial failed outposts. I'd like to see some permanent structures built, too, along with the modular buildings.
If it's set too far into the future, it will feel like Ryder dropped the ball with some of the threads left from MEA. They'd need to invent a good reason why she hasn't pursued those things until now.
As for race selection - I could see playing each of the other Pathfinders (or some other specific character) for a specific mission, but would not ever want ME to support multiple races as the primary PC. Doing so would pretty much guarantee watered down characters, minimalist CC and armor choices, a much shorter game with fewer animations and fewer cutscenes where you see much emotional reaction on the PC's face. It simply would not be worth the cost.
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Post by jasonpogo on Aug 8, 2017 17:05:08 GMT
6-12 months is plenty of time for the dust to settle, the Nexus to be fully built, the other colonists to come out of cryo, the vaults to completely shift the climate of the outpost worlds, etc. With an influx of people from cryo pods, the Eos outpost could grow to annex the initial failed outposts. I'd like to see some permanent structures built, too, along with the modular buildings. If it's set too far into the future, it will feel like Ryder dropped the ball with some of the threads left from MEA. They'd need to invent a good reason why she hasn't pursued those things until now. As for race selection - I could see playing each of the other Pathfinders (or some other specific character) for a specific mission, but would not ever want ME to support multiple races as the primary PC. Doing so would pretty much guarantee watered down characters, minimalist CC and armor choices, a much shorter game with fewer animations and fewer cutscenes where you see much emotional reaction on the PC's face. It simply would not be worth the cost. I find this funny. Dragon Age Inquisitions had all those things and it was if not better at least on par with Andromeda in all those things you listed as trade offs...
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