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Post by anarchy65 on Aug 13, 2017 1:45:31 GMT
And today we had a white supremacist act on U.S. I bet some of the "anti-SJWs" were there. "Anybody who dares question the fairly obvious SJW agenda in the world these days is a white supremacist." Neat false equivalency bro. The fact that you can't read the word "some" says a lot about you. Go tell your mommy the SJWs are oppressing your freedom of speech.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2017 1:47:15 GMT
I defended the complaints I've laid bare and addressed a ridiculous false equivalency that you attempted to pervert. I speak for myself only and you lumped me into multiple groups of shitty people that OI do not speak for nor defend. I never argued that the shit you listed was SJWism, but you are incredibly quick to dismiss and label anyone with a different opinion. You claimed that people with legitimate complaints were being written off, so I listed the complaints that people were making. Now you're trying to back away from the complaints you claimed are legitimate because you ended up with egg on your face. You formulated a straw man and perverted my response with it. But I have egg on my face?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2017 1:49:45 GMT
"Anybody who dares question the fairly obvious SJW agenda in the world these days is a white supremacist." Neat false equivalency bro. The fact that you can't read the word "some" says a lot about you. Go tell your mommy the SJWs are oppressing your freedom of speech. The lack of self awareness and the reciprocal way you proved my point is just amazing.
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Post by sageoflife on Aug 13, 2017 1:52:13 GMT
You claimed that people with legitimate complaints were being written off, so I listed the complaints that people were making. Now you're trying to back away from the complaints you claimed are legitimate because you ended up with egg on your face. You formulated a straw man and perverted my response with it. But I have egg on my face? A statement isn't a strawman just because it makes you look bad. Those were the complaints people were making when you made your asinine claim that people with legitimate complaints were being lumped in with white supremacists. You got caught in your own words, and now you're trying to make yourself look better.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2017 1:55:38 GMT
You formulated a straw man and perverted my response with it. But I have egg on my face? A statement isn't a strawman just because it makes you look bad. Those were the complaints people were making when you made your asinine claim that people with legitimate complaints were being lumped in with white supremacists. You got caught in your own words, and now you're trying to make yourself look better. I have yet to see any of those complaints made here. People have brought up the same 2 complaints I made and you dismissed them wholesale. You then equate those people to awful groups as well as straw man by claiming I defend views that I clearly do not all the while dismissing the fact that I have repeatedly said it. You repeatedly run with 3 fallacies of thinking and act like that make your point for you.
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Post by sageoflife on Aug 13, 2017 1:56:37 GMT
A statement isn't a strawman just because it makes you look bad. Those were the complaints people were making when you made your asinine claim that people with legitimate complaints were being lumped in with white supremacists. You got caught in your own words, and now you're trying to make yourself look better. I have yet to see any of those complaints made here. People have brought up the same 2 complaints I made and you dismissed them wholesale. You then equate those people to awful groups as well as straw man by claiming I defend views that I clearly do not all the while dismissing the fact that I have repeatedly said it. You repeatedly run with 3 fallacies of thinking and act like that make your point for you. You mean the complaints that there are too many minorities and that Bioware hates straight men? Thank you for proving my point.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2017 1:57:32 GMT
I have yet to see any of those complaints made here. People have brought up the same 2 complaints I made and you dismissed them wholesale. You then equate those people to awful groups as well as straw man by claiming I defend views that I clearly do not all the while dismissing the fact that I have repeatedly said it. You repeatedly run with 3 fallacies of thinking and act like that make your point for you. You mean the complaints that there are too many minorities and that Bioware hates straight men? Thank you for proving my point. Never made those complaints. Great strawman... again.
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Post by sageoflife on Aug 13, 2017 2:12:53 GMT
You mean the complaints that there are too many minorities and that Bioware hates straight men? Thank you for proving my point. Never made those complaints. Great strawman... again. Those are the complaints that were being connected to white supremacism, which makes them the complaints that you were referring to when you claimed that people with legitimate complaints are being unfairly written off, which makes them the complaints that you were claiming were legitimate. Thank you, come again.
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Post by alanc9 on Aug 13, 2017 2:13:08 GMT
The anti-SJW crowd apparently thinks that any criticism toward them at all means you're an "SJW" who wants to police people's thoughts, while they feel free to criticize anything that doesn't cater to their sensibilities. It's one of the many reasons I have become convinced that "SJWs" are just the latest boogeyman fabricated by racists, homophobes, etc. so they can pretend that they are the victims because society no longer thinks they're hatred of others is acceptable. So it is a-okay to dismiss people who have legitimate complaints with a few design decisions in a video game as well to lump them in with white supremacists, racists, and homophobes, etc? Please descend from you ivory tower and grace us lowly peasants with your presence, my lord. Remind me again what the legitimate complaints were.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2017 2:13:31 GMT
Never made those complaints. Great strawman... again. Those are the complaints that were being connected to white supremacism, which makes them the complaints that you were referring to when you claimed that people with legitimate complaints are being unfairly written off, which makes them the complaints that you were claiming were legitimate. Thank you, come again.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2017 2:14:01 GMT
So it is a-okay to dismiss people who have legitimate complaints with a few design decisions in a video game as well to lump them in with white supremacists, racists, and homophobes, etc? Please descend from you ivory tower and grace us lowly peasants with your presence, my lord. Remind me again what the legitimate complaints were. Go back and reread my post.
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Post by alanc9 on Aug 13, 2017 2:43:34 GMT
Which post would that be! You haven!5 gotten soecific in the last few pages.
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Post by Guts on Aug 13, 2017 2:59:21 GMT
Oh boy. Welp, we got a bit of a fight going on.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Aug 13, 2017 3:01:28 GMT
I knew I was going to need this gif in this thread eventually.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2017 3:02:53 GMT
Which post would that be! You haven!5 gotten soecific in the last few pages. I was very specific with my initial post in this thread.
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Post by Guts on Aug 13, 2017 3:05:06 GMT
I knew I was going to need this gif in this thread eventually. I was hoping it wouldn't have to come to this, I wasn't expecting an argument between two people that dislike the whole "anti-SJW vs SJW" thing. (Should we turn this into a popcorn eating thread?)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2017 3:11:29 GMT
I knew I was going to need this gif in this thread eventually. I was hoping it wouldn't have to come to this, I wasn't expecting an argument between two people that dislike the whole "anti-SJW vs SJW" thing. (Should we turn this into a popcorn eating thread?) I disengaged with that Obi meme.
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Post by Guts on Aug 13, 2017 3:24:47 GMT
I was hoping it wouldn't have to come to this, I wasn't expecting an argument between two people that dislike the whole "anti-SJW vs SJW" thing. (Should we turn this into a popcorn eating thread?) I disengaged with that Obi meme. Good.
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Post by alanc9 on Aug 13, 2017 3:24:55 GMT
Which post would that be! You haven!5 gotten soecific in the last few pages. I was very specific with my initial post in this thread. How far back was that?
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Post by q5tyhj on Aug 13, 2017 5:06:35 GMT
And today we had a white supremacist act on U.S. I bet some of the "anti-SJWs" were there. "Anybody who dares question the fairly obvious SJW agenda in the world these days is a white supremacist." Neat false equivalency bro. Neat strawman bro... Obviously " some of the anti-SJWs were there" (at the white supremacist rally) isn't the same as " anybody who questions the SJW agenda is a white supremacist". And you want to cry about someone else misrepresenting you, when your entry and subsequent participation in the thread has been entirely based on this (silly/obvious/clearly intentional) misrepresentation? Talk about going full retard...
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Post by linksocarina on Aug 13, 2017 8:33:16 GMT
"Anybody who dares question the fairly obvious SJW agenda in the world these days is a white supremacist." Neat false equivalency bro. Neat strawman bro... Obviously " some of the anti-SJWs were there" (at the white supremacist rally) isn't the same as " anybody who questions the SJW agenda is a white supremacist". And you want to cry about someone else misrepresenting you, when your entry and subsequent participation in the thread has been entirely based on this (silly/obvious/clearly intentional) misrepresentation? Talk about going full retard... Not to sound dickish... But anyone who is using the events that happened in Charlottesville, regardless of their inclusion for or against in making a point about something to further their argument...should probably shut up at this point. Mostly because what happened yesterday was an abject travesty of a mess, and everyone and their mother across the globe is playing the blame game on it now, through identity politics and socio-economic armchair analysis. It's honestly been demoralizing to see my country's descent into chaos, even if it's a small group of people steering the ship that way. That and you know...the fact that it was a violent affair that claimed 3 lives. All the strawmans here in how it relates to a video game...frankly seems inappropriate to me at this point.
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Post by warrior on Aug 13, 2017 8:44:27 GMT
If this thread is going into Charlottesville 'debate' territory I'm going to kindly ask the mods to shut it down so I don't get banned.
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Post by q5tyhj on Aug 13, 2017 8:50:49 GMT
Neat strawman bro... Obviously " some of the anti-SJWs were there" (at the white supremacist rally) isn't the same as " anybody who questions the SJW agenda is a white supremacist". And you want to cry about someone else misrepresenting you, when your entry and subsequent participation in the thread has been entirely based on this (silly/obvious/clearly intentional) misrepresentation? Talk about going full retard... Not to sound dickish... But anyone who is using the events that happened in Charlottesville, regardless of their inclusion for or against in making a point about something to further their argument...should probably shut up at this point. Mostly because what happened yesterday was an abject travesty of a mess, and everyone and their mother across the globe is playing the blame game on it now, through identity politics and socio-economic armchair analysis. It's honestly been demoralizing to see my country's descent into chaos, even if it's a small group of people steering the ship that way. That and you know...the fact that it was a violent affair that claimed 3 lives. All the strawmans here in how it relates to a video game...frankly seems inappropriate to me at this point. That's probably so, but my point is the old one about pots and kettles, and it holds regardless of whether the original comment was appropriate or not; when your participation in a conversation consists in misrepresenting what someone else said, you've sort of forfeited the right to turn around and cry about others misrepresenting you.
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Post by linksocarina on Aug 13, 2017 8:56:14 GMT
Not to sound dickish... But anyone who is using the events that happened in Charlottesville, regardless of their inclusion for or against in making a point about something to further their argument...should probably shut up at this point. Mostly because what happened yesterday was an abject travesty of a mess, and everyone and their mother across the globe is playing the blame game on it now, through identity politics and socio-economic armchair analysis. It's honestly been demoralizing to see my country's descent into chaos, even if it's a small group of people steering the ship that way. That and you know...the fact that it was a violent affair that claimed 3 lives. All the strawmans here in how it relates to a video game...frankly seems inappropriate to me at this point. That's probably so, but my point is the old one about pots and kettles, and it holds regardless of whether the original comment was appropriate or not; when your participation in a conversation consists in misrepresenting what someone else said, you've sort of forfeited the right to turn around and cry about others misrepresenting you. Perhaps so...but the same point could be made about any argument now due to circumstances beyond our control. The pot calling the kettle black is easy, but maybe a new angle in this debate is needed before we go down an even slipper slope.
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Post by antmarch456 on Aug 13, 2017 10:00:25 GMT
I find it fascinating how a simple video-game, a simple piece of plastic box, can create so much...tension.
It's terrifyingly intriguing...
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