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Post by pressedcat on Dec 28, 2021 3:05:53 GMT
Thoughts on episode 8: First, the good(ish) We finally got some decent character interaction between Rand and Moraine! I think Josha did himself proud and their scenes made for the strongest interactions the entire season. The chemistry between them bodes well for the future. It was nice to see Rand being insightful, giving justification for his mistrust of Moraine, and generally showing some mettle. Some of the things Moraine was saying contradicted lore in the books for no apparent reason, but that ship has truly sailed, sunk, refloated and stuck in a museum by this stage.
I thought the blight looked terrible last episode, the way there was a hard boundary between desert and twisted growth, but once they were into it, I think it looked pretty good.
In general, I think the journey through the blight, though imperfect, was my favourite part of the season
There were also some nice parts to the scene between Lan and Nyneave. The whole Nyneave knows a ‘tell’ for tracking Moraine was a complete arse-pull, and Lan’s speech to Nyneave felt less like a noble “why our love can never be” and more an awkward “wait, are you dumping me?” given where their romance currently stood. Maybe this shouldn’t be in this section but rather… The bad I pretty much thought the entirety of the defence of Fal Dara sucked. The soldiers’ uniforms looked like they were all fancy dress, the Trollock army had very ropey cgi and there was virtually no tension or drama to the battle.
The magical defence was worse!
The usage of the one power has been very inconsistent throughout the series. I feel the show runners have completely failed to establish the capabilities and limits of magic users, nor how channellers learn and progress. Fully trained Aes Sedai struggle to overcome scores of trollocks, men, or singular false dragons, whilst partially trained novices and untrained wilders can heal entire cave-fulls of people and join circles to defeat armies numbering in their tens of thousands.
The one power has become a fix-all solution for any seemingly insurmountable problem. Where have the writers left themselves to go now that Egwene and Nyneave have defeated an entire army and cured apparent death. These are levels of power and proficiency not seen until well into the series, and none of it feels justified nor earned.
Lan, Perrin and Loial may as well have stayed on the other side of the waygate with Mat, as they proved to be collectively about as much use as tits on a bull. In fact all of the male characters appeared to be half competent at best. The ugly The series as a whole continues to have issues with costume, sets and general artistic vision for me. A lot of the outfits seem to run on the fantasy trope of ‘make it sleeveless, give it some leather tassels and metal studs and we’re good to go!’ Want to make that fleet-load of strangers look threatening? Give the boats spikes and slap some body paint about. A lot of the sets look like sets and everything has an air of cheapness to it.
Also, the Dark One needs to tuck his shirt in, the scruff-bag! And finally, the meh The cold start was okayish. Wasn’t a fan of turning Lews Therin’s desperate last ditch raid on Shayol Ghul into a ego driven fiasco with entirely predictable results. Also the Dragon Reborn? Really? Where was quality control. Rands confrontation with the Dark One felt at once a bit weak and… …too reminiscent of things to come It all felt very passive and flat. Oh, by the way, Ta’Verne are also a thing now… All in all, it was yet another frustrating episode for me; every step forward was immediately followed by a stumble backwards. Changes that were made to contract the story or share the spotlight seemed to end up confusing the story or undermining the lore they so clunkily introduce. The writers seem far too reliant on cliffhangers, red herrings and shock revelations, which seem to conversely stall the plot and kill any real sense of tension or peril. I really don’t know where I stand on the series at the moment, but I feel the writers definitely need to up their game considerably.
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If Lews Therin Telamon is the Dragon Reborn, what does that make Rand? The Dragon Reborn Reborn… Dragon III… Dragon Junior? Suggestions below! The
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Post by Heimdall on Dec 28, 2021 4:00:28 GMT
If Lews Therin Telamon is the Dragon Reborn, what does that make Rand? The Dragon Reborn Reborn… Dragon III… Dragon Junior? Suggestions below! My father is a III, and he’s been called “Trip” his whole life. So I vote Rand is now Trip.
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Post by Hier0phant on Dec 28, 2021 6:02:04 GMT
And finally, the meh The cold start was okayish. Wasn’t a fan of turning Lews Therin’s desperate last ditch raid on Shayol Ghul into a ego driven fiasco with entirely predictable results. Also the Dragon Reborn? Really? Where was quality control. I wouldn't be surprised if the writers pass off Latra's counter proposal to Lew's plan as feasible nevermind the massive ramifications of both male, and female channelers going insane while in control of the choedan kal.
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Post by pressedcat on Dec 28, 2021 13:29:53 GMT
And finally, the meh The cold start was okayish. Wasn’t a fan of turning Lews Therin’s desperate last ditch raid on Shayol Ghul into a ego driven fiasco with entirely predictable results. Also the Dragon Reborn? Really? Where was quality control. I wouldn't be surprised if the writers pass off Latra's counter proposal to Lew's plan as feasible nevermind the massive ramifications of both male, and female channelers going insane while in control of the choedan kal. To be honest, I can’t remember what Latra’s counter proposal was in the books and I don’t think anything was mentioned in the tv scene? Also, Rand Trip: I like it! Sounds like a man who knows where he’s going… …and how to get back again
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Post by Hier0phant on Dec 28, 2021 15:12:32 GMT
I wouldn't be surprised if the writers pass off Latra's counter proposal to Lew's plan as feasible nevermind the massive ramifications of both male, and female channelers going insane while in control of the choedan kal. To be honest, I can’t remember what Latra’s counter proposal was in the books and I don’t think anything was mentioned in the tv scene? Also, Rand Trip: I like it! Sounds like a man who knows where he’s going… …and how to get back again IIRC Latra wanted to use the sa'angreal choedan kal to build a barrier prison around the borehole at Shayol Ghul. The problem was that choedan kal, and it's access keys were in territory that was just captured by the Forsaken while the Light's forces lacked the ability to reclaim conquered lands. Then there's the issue of Latra's barrier containing the Dark One after it fully escapes into their plane of existence from the bore due to how powerful the Dark One was when it effected reality on a continental scale from the other side of the borehole. The biggest issue is the Dark One's ability to potentially taint saidar and saidin during the construction of the barrier, and with both male and female channelers operating the choedan kal their superpowered rampage would be more devastating than Lews' breaking of the world. dragonmount.com/Books/Strike_at_Shayol_Ghul/index/The world was lucky Latra, and Lews couldn't reach an agreement, that Latra's plan wasn't used, and only Saidin was tainted.
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IIRC Latra wanted to use the sa'angreal choedan kal to build a barrier prison around the borehole at Shayol Ghul. The problem was that choedan kal, and it's access keys were in territory that was just captured by the Forsaken while the Light's forces lacked the ability to reclaim conquered lands. Then there's the issue of Latra's barrier containing the Dark One after it fully escapes into their plane of existence from the bore due to how powerful the Dark One was when it effected reality on a continental scale from the other side of the borehole. The biggest issue is the Dark One's ability to potentially taint saidar and saidan during the construction of the barrier, and with both male and female channelers operating the choedan kal their superpowered rampage would be more devastating than Lews' breaking of the world. dragonmount.com/Books/Strike_at_Shayol_Ghul/index/The world was lucky Latra, and Lews couldn't reach an agreement, that Latra's plan wasn't used, and only Saidin was tainted. Thanks, I’d never seen that before! Some really cool insights. It’s odd how one moment the series can contain very obscure bits of lore and in the next undermine fundamental principles. I’d heard they had an ‘expert advisor’ on the team. It would be interesting to hear their account of how the plot was devised and their thoughts on the the final product.
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Post by Hier0phant on Dec 28, 2021 18:06:12 GMT
IIRC Latra wanted to use the sa'angreal choedan kal to build a barrier prison around the borehole at Shayol Ghul. The problem was that choedan kal, and it's access keys were in territory that was just captured by the Forsaken while the Light's forces lacked the ability to reclaim conquered lands. Then there's the issue of Latra's barrier containing the Dark One after it fully escapes into their plane of existence from the bore due to how powerful the Dark One was when it effected reality on a continental scale from the other side of the borehole. The biggest issue is the Dark One's ability to potentially taint saidar and saidan during the construction of the barrier, and with both male and female channelers operating the choedan kal their superpowered rampage would be more devastating than Lews' breaking of the world. dragonmount.com/Books/Strike_at_Shayol_Ghul/index/The world was lucky Latra, and Lews couldn't reach an agreement, that Latra's plan wasn't used, and only Saidin was tainted. Thanks, I’d never seen that before! Some really cool insights. It’s odd how one moment the series can contain very obscure bits of lore and in the next undermine fundamental principles. I’d heard they had an ‘expert advisor’ on the team. It would be interesting to hear their account of how the plot was devised and their thoughts on the the final product. They have to be careful with their changes because little details that might seem irrelevant has the potential to greatly impact the plot later on.
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Post by dragontartare on Dec 28, 2021 21:14:04 GMT
I was watching a video on the YouTube channel "WoT Up!" and he describes covid-related issues with filming beyond just Barney Harris leaving. They apparently had to rebuild some sets, including the Blight, and had to rewrite scenes to include fewer characters due to covid restrictions. This took up time and money that presumably had to be made up elsewhere (maybe the sloppy post-production?)
Brandon Sanderson said in Dusty Wheel that episodes 7 and 8 are the only ones where he didn't get a chance to read and critique the scripts before filming, due to covid-related rewrites.
I don't know where WoT Up got his information, but if true, it at least explains some of the problems in episode 8. Sanderson not getting to give input probably explains the rest of what was wrong with episode 8.
Just thought I'd share. I thought it was interesting.
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My friend came over today to finish the season, and ended the evening with logging on to Amazon and ordering Eye of the World because she doesn't want to wait for me to finish my copy. Episode 8 was the only one to leave her completely confused and with tons of questions. Episode spoilers within, plus minor book spoiler: She was confused about the cold open and what the baby had to do with anything. She knew there was some significance there, but didn't get what it was. While I liked the open myself because we got to see the Age of Legends, I'm much more leaning toward thinking they should have shown the book prologue here, for the sake of giving non-readers a better explanation. I hope they will open season 2 with that. She hated the fake-out deaths. She thought the channeling circle wiped out the trollocs way too easily and that Rand's explosion wasn't big enough. The Horn not being explained surprisingly didn't bother her. I think she got that it would be important to the Dragon and that was enough for her. She got that Moiraine was shielded. She realized it would be a big problem if Egwene resurrected Nynaeve, even though my friend doesn't know about balefire, so she hated that scene. She still didn't like Egwene being able to just heal Nynaeve, because it doesn't fit what we've been shown about Egwene so far. And on that note... She thinks Egwene is "basically useless" and is just there to be a love interest. As an Egwene hater, this amuses me She didn't understand what the significance was of cuendillar, nor why Rand defeated the "Dark One" so easily. She got that the damane were enslaved channelers, but didn't understand who these people were or wtf was going on (but she didn't think they channeled a tsunami just to kill a single child ). She was ok with it once I reminded her about the disappearing ships mentioned in episode 6. She loved episodes 6 and 7. She didn't hate 8, but thought it left too many cliffhangers and too many things that needed explanation from a book reader. But for the season as a whole, she's hooked. Her favorites are Nynaeve, Perrin, Loial, and Lan. She still doesn't seem to like Moiraine much, but apparently she doesn't like Pike as an actor, so maybe that's part of it. Whether our friendship can last remains to be seen
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My friend came over today to finish the season, and ended the evening with logging on to Amazon and ordering Eye of the World because she doesn't want to wait for me to finish my copy. Episode 8 was the only one to leave her completely confused and with tons of questions. Episode spoilers within, plus minor book spoiler: She was confused about the cold open and what the baby had to do with anything. She knew there was some significance there, but didn't get what it was. While I liked the open myself because we got to see the Age of Legends, I'm much more leaning toward thinking they should have shown the book prologue here, for the sake of giving non-readers a better explanation. I hope they will open season 2 with that. She hated the fake-out deaths. She thought the channeling circle wiped out the trollocs way too easily and that Rand's explosion wasn't big enough. The Horn not being explained surprisingly didn't bother her. I think she got that it would be important to the Dragon and that was enough for her. She got that Moiraine was shielded. She realized it would be a big problem if Egwene resurrected Nynaeve, even though my friend doesn't know about balefire, so she hated that scene. She still didn't like Egwene being able to just heal Nynaeve, because it doesn't fit what we've been shown about Egwene so far. And on that note... She thinks Egwene is "basically useless" and is just there to be a love interest. As an Egwene hater, this amuses me She didn't understand what the significance was of cuendillar, nor why Rand defeated the "Dark One" so easily. She got that the damane were enslaved channelers, but didn't understand who these people were or wtf was going on (but she didn't think they channeled a tsunami just to kill a single child ). She was ok with it once I reminded her about the disappearing ships mentioned in episode 6. She loved episodes 6 and 7. She didn't hate 8, but thought it left too many cliffhangers and too many things that needed explanation from a book reader. But for the season as a whole, she's hooked. Her favorites are Nynaeve, Perrin, Loial, and Lan. She still doesn't seem to like Moiraine much, but apparently she doesn't like Pike as an actor, so maybe that's part of it. Whether our friendship can last remains to be seen It’s interesting, isn’t it? My rewatch of e8 just reinforced my opinion of it as my favourite ep, whereas you - another book reader - had it slide on rewatch. I definitely acknowledge issues with it - with the whole season, in fact - particularly some Rule of Cool instances (The Fal Dara circle providing the two worst), but at the same time I enjoyed it all immensely. Glad your friend liked it and it’s always good when someone is prompted to read The Wheel of Time for the first time
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Post by dragontartare on Dec 29, 2021 6:24:50 GMT
It’s interesting, isn’t it? My rewatch of e8 just reinforced my opinion of it as my favourite ep, whereas you - another book reader - had it slide on rewatch. Yeah, I wish it were different for me Every other episode has gotten better for me on rewatch, except for 8. The parts that I thought were strong the first time I still do like/love. It's just that the parts I disliked got worse, for whatever reason. I still enjoyed the season as a whole, though. --------------- So I have a question about the wheel and the ages. In the books, we see "relics" from our time as well as legends that allude to real world events (Lenn flying to the moon, etc.). At the same time, events from the 2nd and 3rd age are intended to appear to have inspired our legends, such as Tar Valon/Avalon, the very concept of a dragon, etc. However, I think in the books there is also a dinosaur fossil somewhere. My question is, how did these legends survive billions of years without humans to carry them on? If it goes: Us (1st age) => Age of Legends => Third age/book events => 4th age => 5th age (ending with the heat death of the solar system??) => 6th age (primordial earth? idk) => 7th age (dinosaurs, ending with the asteroid) ...then how would any legends survive from the third age of one turning of the wheel into the 1st age of the next turning of the wheel, if there are billions of years of non-human life in between? If the dinosaurs and such are part of the 1st age, then you still have the same problem. Or do dinosaurs not exist in this universe and I misinterpreted the fossils? Am I overthinking this?
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Dec 29, 2021 6:57:56 GMT
It’s interesting, isn’t it? My rewatch of e8 just reinforced my opinion of it as my favourite ep, whereas you - another book reader - had it slide on rewatch. Yeah, I wish it were different for me Every other episode has gotten better for me on rewatch, except for 8. The parts that I thought were strong the first time I still do like/love. It's just that the parts I disliked got worse, for whatever reason. I still enjoyed the season as a whole, though. --------------- So I have a question about the wheel and the ages. In the books, we see "relics" from our time as well as legends that allude to real world events (Lenn flying to the moon, etc.). At the same time, events from the 2nd and 3rd age are intended to appear to have inspired our legends, such as Tar Valon/Avalon, the very concept of a dragon, etc. However, I think in the books there is also a dinosaur fossil somewhere. My question is, how did these legends survive billions of years without humans to carry them on? If it goes: Us (1st age) => Age of Legends => Third age/book events => 4th age => 5th age (ending with the heat death of the solar system??) => 6th age (primordial earth? idk) => 7th age (dinosaurs, ending with the asteroid) ...then how would any legends survive from the third age of one turning of the wheel into the 1st age of the next turning of the wheel, if there are billions of years of non-human life in between? If the dinosaurs and such are part of the 1st age, then you still have the same problem. Or do dinosaurs not exist in this universe and I misinterpreted the fossils? Am I overthinking this? Was the Wheel definitely on a ‘geological’ scale as it turned? Just in case; book spoilers I had always assumed it was ‘Ages of mankind’ that were being spun out, given the importance of souls and Tel’aran’rhiod. If there were Ages that lasted billions of years with no human life, wouldn’t the Heroes of the Horn have at least some idea? Brigitte was aware that it had been ‘some time’ since she’d last been spun out, so they’re aware of the passage of time. If she noticed hundreds of years, surely she would’ve started getting fidgety over the course of billions Assuming that I’m wrong, though, that would be an interesting oversight from someone as meticulous as Jordan.
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Was the Wheel definitely on a ‘geological’ scale as it turned? Just in case; book spoilers I had always assumed it was ‘Ages of mankind’ that were being spun out, given the importance of souls and Tel’aran’rhiod. If there were Ages that lasted billions of years with no human life, wouldn’t the Heroes of the Horn have at least some idea? Brigitte was aware that it had been ‘some time’ since she’d last been spun out, so they’re aware of the passage of time. If she noticed hundreds of years, surely she would’ve started getting fidgety over the course of billions Assuming that I’m wrong, though, that would be an interesting oversight from someone as meticulous as Jordan. Then I must be remembering the dinosaur fossils wrong. If the wheel only spins out 7 ages of humans, but the dinosaurs did exist, then that means there must have been a "first" age of mankind (after the death of the dinosaurs, the rise of mammals, etc), and therefore a beginning to the wheel, which is supposed to have no beginning and no end.
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Was the Wheel definitely on a ‘geological’ scale as it turned? Just in case; book spoilers I had always assumed it was ‘Ages of mankind’ that were being spun out, given the importance of souls and Tel’aran’rhiod. If there were Ages that lasted billions of years with no human life, wouldn’t the Heroes of the Horn have at least some idea? Brigitte was aware that it had been ‘some time’ since she’d last been spun out, so they’re aware of the passage of time. If she noticed hundreds of years, surely she would’ve started getting fidgety over the course of billions Assuming that I’m wrong, though, that would be an interesting oversight from someone as meticulous as Jordan. Then I must be remembering the dinosaur fossils wrong. If the wheel only spins out 7 ages of humans, but the dinosaurs did exist, then that means there must have been a "first" age of mankind (after the death of the dinosaurs, the rise of mammals, etc), and therefore a beginning to the wheel, which is supposed to have no beginning and no end. That’s an excellent point. I don’t remember the fossils, myself, but given the Mercedes (or was it Audi) logo featured, it is certainly something that could have happened. But 3rd Age history becoming legend which fades to myth by the coming again of the First Age - as you say - doesn’t really work if one of the Ages has billions of years with no people… Because even the advances of technology and the Power in the 2nd Age don’t help “our Age” because they’d all be lost in the 6th or 7th.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2021 7:52:50 GMT
Blame saidin.
Everyone else does.
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Post by dragontartare on Dec 29, 2021 8:05:10 GMT
Blame saidin. Everyone else does.Saidin killed the dinosaurs??
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Blame saidin. Everyone else does.Saidin killed the dinosaurs?? It was an exsaidin time to be alive.
Just imagine, dinosaurs with Balefire...
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Dec 29, 2021 9:58:56 GMT
I can believe that. Suspiciously, sa’idin was also seen in the vicinity of the death of the radio star…
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Post by pressedcat on Dec 30, 2021 19:19:52 GMT
Season 1 is done and dusted, for good or bad. So on to the best part of any book to tv adaptation: speculation! Obviously book and tv are very different mediums, especially for this series given RJ’s propensity for descriptive passages and internal dialogue. What aspects of the book do you foresee being awkward to translate to the screen, and how do you think they will/should be implemented? Obviously I wouldn’t have made the post unless I had some ideas, so here goes. Spoilers for Perrin! The portrayal of Perrin as a wolf-brother wasn’t really developed in S1. I suspect that his communication with wolves will be visually portrayed by having cuts to a ‘wolf eye’ camera. Viewing the world through the eyes of a wolf (or some other critter) is well trodden ground in the film industry, and I was certain it was going to appear in WoT too. I had always imagined his first vision occurring as he stared sleepily into a camp fire, cutting momentarily to a different perspective looking back at him, before Perrin jerks fully awake and finds himself face-to-face with a wolf. Pretty cliched I know, but I’m afraid that’s the extent of my creativity… BOOK SPOILERS: I thought these switching perspectives would have been cool in the Whitecloak confrontation at the Ogier Stedding, witnessing the camera darting about as wolves attacked horses and riders, only for the final ‘vision’ to end with an axe biting into flesh.
Not so different from the books really…
Anyone got their own (likely more original) ideas for Perrin, or indeed any other character or aspect of the books?
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Dec 31, 2021 4:18:54 GMT
Season 1 is done and dusted, for good or bad. So on to the best part of any book to tv adaptation: speculation! Obviously book and tv are very different mediums, especially for this series given RJ’s propensity for descriptive passages and internal dialogue. What aspects of the book do you foresee being awkward to translate to the screen, and how do you think they will/should be implemented? Obviously I wouldn’t have made the post unless I had some ideas, so here goes. Spoilers for Perrin! The portrayal of Perrin as a wolf-brother wasn’t really developed in S1. I suspect that his communication with wolves will be visually portrayed by having cuts to a ‘wolf eye’ camera. Viewing the world through the eyes of a wolf (or some other critter) is well trodden ground in the film industry, and I was certain it was going to appear in WoT too. I had always imagined his first vision occurring as he stared sleepily into a camp fire, cutting momentarily to a different perspective looking back at him, before Perrin jerks fully awake and finds himself face-to-face with a wolf. Pretty cliched I know, but I’m afraid that’s the extent of my creativity… BOOK SPOILERS: I thought these switching perspectives would have been cool in the Whitecloak confrontation at the Ogier Stedding, witnessing the camera darting about as wolves attacked horses and riders, only for the final ‘vision’ to end with an axe biting into flesh.
Not so different from the books really…
Anyone got their own (likely more original) ideas for Perrin, or indeed any other character or aspect of the books? No ideas for characters, but one aspect that will be - not necessarily awkward to show, but - interesting will be how they choose to introduce and use …the Forsaken, and particularly the transition from batshit insane Ishamael to cool as ice Moridin. It’s possible that they won’t, because Ishy wasn’t looking particularly crazy at the Eye, but if he doesn’t hop into a new body, then that will fundamentally change the final outcome of Tarmon Gaidon, right?
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Post by pressedcat on Dec 31, 2021 15:30:41 GMT
…the Forsaken, and particularly the transition from batshit insane Ishamael to cool as ice Moridin. It’s possible that they won’t, because Ishy wasn’t looking particularly crazy at the Eye, but if he doesn’t hop into a new body, then that will fundamentally change the final outcome of Tarmon Gaidon, right? I’m unsure on this point too. Future book spoilers below, though I’ve tried to keep everything vague and major plot spoilers are double-layered: . On Ishamael: a big part of his insanity was that he believed he was the Dark One, to such an extent that most other characters in the book, good or bad, never questioned it.
It was only with the arrival of other Forsaken and the uncovering of old texts (I think?), that this was brought into question.
Where they decide to go with Ishamael in the long run: not a clue! I’d be intrigued to see which Forsaken make the cut for the tv series: a couple are already off the list and based on how they are handling saidar/saidin another may lose their relevance. I certainly hope that with the breaking of the seal, some Forsaken are released. One of the major things lacking in this show so far is a major antagonist with actual presence. The Dark One has remained a fairly nebulous idea; Ishamael hasn’t been the threatening dream lurker he was in the books, his presumed identity wasn’t made explicit until E8, and even then I don’t think there was enough existential terror for coming face-to-face with Shaitan! The other antagonists feel much more like henchmen, especially given how much power some of the protagonists have been shown to wield. Some terrifying ancient power wielders would be welcome, both for their machinations, and to start putting into perspective the capabilities of modern day Aes Sedai versus those with the knowledge of the AoL.
I think building on Ishamael and a few more subtle appearances from others will be fine for the first half of S2 at least.
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Post by AnDromedary on Dec 31, 2021 16:33:01 GMT
I wonder which visual effects they'll give tel'aran'rhiod. My guess is mostly color filters but I am curious. Otherwise, yea, as was already mentioned, the adaptation of Perrin's thing will be interesting. Especially because it's not just some vague sense kinda thing. Despite the fact that they don't talk in the sense of words, they have very specific conversation (especially him and Hopper in the wolf dream). So will they actually talk at some point? That's gonna probably be the toughest one. Otherwise, now that they have the channeling effects pretty much down, the rest should be pretty straight forward.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2021 18:42:20 GMT
So will they actually talk at some point? I asked someone with experience and this was his answer.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Dec 31, 2021 21:27:03 GMT
I wonder which visual effects they'll give tel'aran'rhiod. My guess is mostly color filters but I am curious. Otherwise, yea, as was already mentioned, the adaptation of Perrin's thing will be interesting. Especially because it's not just some vague sense kinda thing. Despite the fact that they don't talk in the sense of words, they have very specific conversation (especially him and Hopper in the wolf dream). So will they actually talk at some point? That's gonna probably be the toughest one. Otherwise, now that they have the channeling effects pretty much down, the rest should be pretty straight forward. Wolves Yeah, them talking to Perrin will be a tricky needle to thread. It could end up giving the series some levity, although it could be of the unintentional variety… Tel’aran’rhiodColour filters, for sure. Echoing sounds and voices seem likely.
There’ll possibly be other visual effects like shifting surfaces and structures.
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