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Post by dragontartare on Dec 25, 2021 17:16:39 GMT
Kappa Neko re the timeline: I don't think this is a spoiler because it's background lore, though they haven't explained in the show yet. The world broke at the end of the second she because the Dark One tainted the male half of the source (the black stuff you see when Rand or Logain channel). The male channelers, in their madness (and given their power and numbers), broke continents apart and otherwise did so much damage that they sent society back thousands of years. On the "wokeness": The first books came out in the 90s, when "girl power" was all about "girls rule and boys drool". It's a dated attitude (try watching any sitcom from the 90s now and get ready to cringe. They preserved this attitude with the red ajah, so it's still there somewhat.) All I'm saying is that they seem to have updated this to show female characters doing cool things instead of just awful. Hell, Nynaeve even has power over Moiraine with the "tell" business and with Moiraine temporarily losing her power.
You can argue whether or not this is a good interpretation of the "female power fantasy" (which I am not interested in doing), but you can't claim WoT was never a female power fantasy to begin with.
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Post by Hier0phant on Dec 25, 2021 18:20:32 GMT
I wouldn't call the Wheel of Time novels female power fantasy. Labeling them as such misses the point of Robert Jordan's messaging that from the very beginning was about balance, and harmony which was thrown into disarray in the WoT verse thanks to the DO's influence, and the negative social impact the 'Breaking of The World' had on it's survivors. We see this in the authority the Aes Sedai wield as well as societies' contrasting views towards male (negative) and female (positive) leadership, and was evidenced early on by Jordan's exploration of the political dynamic between Edmond Field's all male Council, and all female Circle.
The script being woke is the least of Amazon's WoT's problems.
Also Lews Therin's and Latra's casting was underwhelming.
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Post by Kappa Neko on Dec 25, 2021 18:54:18 GMT
I know this is off topic but... It's a dated attitude (try watching any sitcom from the 90s now and get ready to cringe. Joke's on you. I'm currently rewatching Friends for the first time since I was a teenager. And I expected it to be cringe like most things from the 90s now. I was very surprised that I still think it's one of the funniest best written comedies ever made. I love making fun of men and women, even if it's THAT silly. Anyway, I'll stop now. Thanks for answering all my questions!
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Post by dragontartare on Dec 25, 2021 19:28:13 GMT
I wouldn't call the Wheel of Time novels female power fantasy. Labeling them as such misses the point of Robert Jordan's messaging that from the very beginning was about balance, and harmony which was thrown into disarray in the WoT verse thanks to the DO's influence, and the negative social impact the 'Breaking of The World' had on it's survivors. We see this in the authority the Aes Sedai wield as well as societies' contrasting views towards male (negative) and female (positive) leadership, and was evidenced early on by Jordan's exploration of the political dynamic between Edmond Field's all male Council, and all female Circle. "Women's power fantasy" is how the world's power structure in the books is set up, is what I meant. I agree that the importance of balance is one of the big themes of the series. Like I said in a previous post, RJ wasn't saying that the power imbalance was a good thing.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Dec 25, 2021 22:05:16 GMT
I’m doing this on my possessed iPad, so can’t properly spoiler quote everybody I want to in this, sorry. Finished episode 8 late last night after getting home from Christmas Day at my brother in law’s house, and can say without hesitation that, for me, e8 was easily the best of S1. 4 and 7 can duke it out for second and third place. Shienar Battle of the Gap was short, but well done, although I feel like the VFX budget was getting tight on them with the wide shots of the Trolloc army.
The ladies linking was cool, Tower training trumping strength and still having hard limits on the amount of the Power one can safely draw was a nice nod to the source material. She flew too close to the sun and got burned, but she saved her city. Not totally sold on Egwene being able to Heal Nynaeve (from what looked like death…) but it’s not a big deal. Perrin/Loial/Fain Um…I really hope that isn’t the end of Loial, but it doesn’t look good.
Are they going to have Perrin blow the Horn? If so, what does that leave for Mat? Perrin has the wolves and the heroes of the Horn and Mat has….?
I hope Perrins actor can improve. He is hard to watch in almost every scene. I like his look, but that’s about it. The Eye Loved just about everything about this, even the wild deviations from the books.
Ishamael! Dude looked stylish. Elan Morin was a…philosopher? Or a poet? In the Age of Legends/Second Age, right?
Moiraine being stilled was a surprise, but makes sense.
One small disappointment was that the Creator didn’t speak. That would have been nice, but meh. A small issue in a sequence I was otherwise completely happy with. Mat GO AWAY BARNEY! So…an uneven first season, for me. Started poorly, but with some promise, and ended on a high. It is not an adaptation of the books. At all. And I’ve made my peace with it. ‘Inspired by’ is fine. Looking forward to S2.
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Post by dragontartare on Dec 26, 2021 0:14:56 GMT
You mean I'm not alone in not liking his portrayal of Mat? Moiraine being stilled was a surprise, but makes sense.
Book spoiler included: Based on the weave used, she has been shielded and Ish tied the shield off. You can see a net close over her and a knot at Ishamael's fingertips. Moiraine may very well believe she has been stilled, however, if they've kept the idea that women can't see weaves of saidin.
I'm wondering if they've done this to avoid losing Moiraine through the doorway for a long period of time. Pike is their big star, afterall. If that's the plan, I think it's too early to gimp their Gandalf figure. Instead, I hope this is a temporary setback to give Moiraine more to do while Rand finds himself. The doorway could still work if they just drastically shorten how long she is gone, and use that time to show Moiraine with the Finns and maybe some New Spring flashbacks.
Out of curiosity, how do you see this making sense? I'm willing to see where they go with this, but I'm not liking it yet. Um…I really hope that isn’t the end of Loial, but it doesn’t look good.
I thought I put this in a post already. He's not dead, because you can see him moving during Fain's monologue to Perrin. Watch him right after the cut to Rand saying goodbye to Moiraine. It looks like he's trying to sit up or get a better view of what is going on.
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Post by pressedcat on Dec 26, 2021 2:26:11 GMT
You mean I'm not alone in not liking his portrayal of Mat? I think it’s a little unfair to malign Barney for his portrayal of Mat. It seems fairly clear that the writers have been going in a very different direction right from the outset. I don’t think I recall any scenes where his mischievousness or taste for pranks have been shown. His character arc has gone straight from thief from a broken home to bearer of a cursed dagger to betrayer of the fellowship and potential villain in the next series. As well to blame Marcus Rutherford for Perrin being such a dull and mopey character.
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Post by dragontartare on Dec 26, 2021 2:58:30 GMT
You mean I'm not alone in not liking his portrayal of Mat? I think it’s a little unfair to malign Barney for his portrayal of Mat. It seems fairly clear that the writers have been going in a very different direction right from the outset. I don’t think I recall any scenes where his mischievousness or taste for pranks have been shown. His character arc has gone straight from thief from a broken home to bearer of a cursed dagger to betrayer of the fellowship and potential villain in the next series. As well to blame Marcus Rutherford for Perrin being such a dull and mopey character. "Malign" is a pretty strong word for just saying I don't like something. "Malign" means talking about someone in a spiteful, critical manner, which I have not done. I think it's a little unfair to blow my comment so far out of proportion I said this in one of my other posts already: obviously the way Mat is written is part of the problem, but there is something about Barney Harris's performance that enhances the darkness that was written into his character, for me. That's all. I'm already aware that this is a minority opinion, which is why I was excited to possibly see someone who shares it. I don't see him as a potential villain. He is still under the influence of the dagger, just like he was at this point in the books. He has gone from thief who steals to make his sisters happy (not because he's a terrible person), to someone who risked his life to find and protect his sisters, to bearer of a cursed dagger (like he was in the books), and finally to someone who didn't follow his friends into a cursed alternate dimension (because the actor left the show, so he physically couldn't go with them. From some of the dialogue left in there that was given to Rand and Perrin, you can tell this probably wasn't the showrunners' intention).
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Dec 26, 2021 3:46:15 GMT
You mean I'm not alone in not liking his portrayal of Mat? Moiraine being stilled was a surprise, but makes sense.
Book spoiler included: Based on the weave used, she has been shielded and Ish tied the shield off. You can see a net close over her and a knot at Ishamael's fingertips. Moiraine may very well believe she has been stilled, however, if they've kept the idea that women can't see weaves of saidin.
I'm wondering if they've done this to avoid losing Moiraine through the doorway for a long period of time. Pike is their big star, afterall. If that's the plan, I think it's too early to gimp their Gandalf figure. Instead, I hope this is a temporary setback to give Moiraine more to do while Rand finds himself. The doorway could still work if they just drastically shorten how long she is gone, and use that time to show Moiraine with the Finns and maybe some New Spring flashbacks.
Out of curiosity, how do you see this making sense? I'm willing to see where they go with this, but I'm not liking it yet. Um…I really hope that isn’t the end of Loial, but it doesn’t look good.
I thought I put this in a post already. He's not dead, because you can see him moving during Fain's monologue to Perrin. Watch him right after the cut to Rand saying goodbye to Moiraine. It looks like he's trying to sit up or get a better view of what is going on. Ugh…tried separating out the parts of the quote but without the ‘quick quote’ function, it’s just a nightmare I don’t have the energy for right now Mat You aren’t, no. I don’t know that it’s necessarily all Barney’s fault, because I’m sure he was just following the script and the direction, but my comment was more a joke about the combination of not really warming to the portrayal, Mat ‘choosing’ to not go into the Ways and Barney leaving the show.
I think he’s a better actor than Perrin’s actor is, although, even with Perrin, I don’t consider it to be entirely his fault, either. Moiraine You might be right, come to think of it. Ishamael had the comment about “can’t imagine being able to sense the Source, but have it be just out of reach”…or words to that effect. Stilling wouldn’t let someone sense the Source. They’d feel only an empty void where the Source used to be.
With regards to making sense, I just meant from the perspective of ‘if I were Ishamael, I wouldn’t want an insect buzzing around my ears while I was trying to seduce the Dragon Reborn (who was also holding a sa’angreal). She was no threat to him. Any more than a child that couldn’t channel was a threat to her. He just didn’t want her to annoy him or do something to Rand. It wasn’t from a ‘this makes sense due to this plot point’ or anything like that.
Thinking forward, though, we know a woman cannot unravel a man’s weaves (and vice versa). None of her sisters will be able to help her. And the only man who can channel around her has just left and won’t have the first clue on how to untangle a shielding. Maybe as he learns and leans on her guidance he’ll decide to undo her shield and it’ll be a character relationship development point? Loial Ah, ok, sorry. I’ll admit I haven’t read any other posts yet. It’s Boxing Day and relaxing by (and in) the pool have been the order of the day here.
Good to know. Loial wasn’t injured in the books, though, was he? I don’t recall that being the reason they went to the Stedding (although it has been so bloody long since I’ve read The Great Hunt, it wouldn’t surprise me that I’d forgotten).
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Dec 26, 2021 4:13:36 GMT
Upon rewatch, the bad parts of this episode outweigh the good parts enough to drop the episode as a whole in my ranking. This is the opposite of how I have felt about the other episodes, which I liked better after rewatching. However, the good parts are still among my favorite moments of the whole season. For what it's worth, I did my rewatch with a non-reader, and she felt like she understood everything aside from the prologue and one other thing that I will put in a spoiler tag below. I will also avoid future book spoilers in this post, aside from some vague references that only book readers would know what I mean, so I think this post is safe for Kappa Neko . The good:
I also think Agelmar's death was a fake out. While it initially looks like he got a spear through the chest, upon rewatch I noticed that while the armor is dented, there is no blood at all and Agelmar just looks pissed. And it's not as if RJ didn't write his own share of death fake outs. .
Good catch. Didn’t notice that at all. And you’re right, he loved his misdirects. I hope she was just injured as well (although that will be tough to believe given how bad she looked) but here is where a show deviation from the books helps them. There are not 3 ta’veren, there are 5. Bending fate, chance, reality (whatever you want to call it) comes with a lot of unexpected baggage. Some of it will be bad. And some, like that, can be good. Whether or not they were thinking about that when the scene was written, I can’t say, but it gives them - in my view - a pre-made excuse. With regards to the choice about literally burning up, versus burning out…Lews Therin Telamon and Dragonmount would like a word A circle lets them draw more of the Power than they could safely handle, sure, but there isn’t - to my recollection - a built in buffer like with angreal and sa’angreal. How they explain it internally, I wouldn’t know, but there is precedent in the books for this kind of outcome.
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Post by dragontartare on Dec 26, 2021 4:21:41 GMT
You aren’t, no. I don’t know that it’s necessarily all Barney’s fault, because I’m sure he was just following the script and the direction, but my comment was more a joke about the combination of not really warming to the portrayal, Mat ‘choosing’ to not go into the Ways and Barney leaving the show.
I think he’s a better actor than Perrin’s actor is, although, even with Perrin, I don’t consider it to be entirely his fault, either. Yeah, it's not solely Barney Harris's fault at all. And obviously his portrayal is working for a lot of people, despite the changes to his character. I'm just not one of those people. I think he's clearly a talented actor, in any case. I don't even mind Perrin's actor, though admittedly I view Perrin in the early books as kind of a silent wall of a person, so it works for me. Stilling wouldn’t let someone sense the Source. They’d feel only an empty void where the Source used to be. You know...I was convinced of that too. Completely convinced. So were a ton of people in various YouTube comment sections and Reddit. And then someone politely corrected me and said that even stilled women can still sense the source. And the wiki agrees! But I swear I still remember an empty void just like you do, so I'm doubting the wiki, but maybe I shouldn't doubt it. I don't know I'll get there in my reread eventually. Still, the weaves show a tied off shield, not stilling, so there is that. With regards to making sense, I just meant from the perspective of ‘if I were Ishamael, I wouldn’t want an insect buzzing around my ears while I was trying to seduce the Dragon Reborn (who was also holding a sa’angreal). She was no threat to him. Any more than a child that couldn’t channel was a threat to her. He just didn’t want her to annoy him or do something to Rand. It wasn’t from a ‘this makes sense due to this plot point’ or anything like that. Ah, gotcha. I agree it made sense for Ishamael to shield her. I only wish the shield had disintegrated when Ishamael...did whatever he did. Thinking forward, though, we know a woman cannot unravel a man’s weaves (and vice versa). None of her sisters will be able to help her. And the only man who can channel around her has just left and won’t have the first clue on how to untangle a shielding. Maybe as he learns and leans on her guidance he’ll decide to undo her shield and it’ll be a character relationship development point? Book spoilers included: This would actually be a development I'd like. Nynaeve can still be the one to discover how to heal stilling, but Rand can unravel the shield for Moiraine once he learns enough. I'm wondering whether they are using this as a replacement for the Finn doorway and tower, so that they don't need to have Pike disappear for whole season or so. Good to know. Loial wasn’t injured in the books, though, was he? I don’t recall that being the reason they went to the Stedding (although it has been so bloody long since I’ve read The Great Hunt, it wouldn’t surprise me that I’d forgotten). I don't remember him getting injured either. There are theories online that this change was made after Harris left the show, to get everyone together again in their hunt for the knife. Ah, ok, sorry. I’ll admit I haven’t read any other posts yet. It’s Boxing Day and relaxing by (and in) the pool have been the order of the day here. I guess I have posted a lot in the last day or so Hope you're enjoying boxing day and the pool! Despite supposedly being winter here, it's warm enough to sit by the pool here too
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2021 4:41:41 GMT
Just started snowing here in the last day. (It's still Christmas eve here.) Really lightly all day, heavier now. Very rare for where I am in Canada to get snow. Whole city will shut down tomorrow if there's enough. (And by enough I mean ankle-height.) Makes for a nice surprisingly well timed white christmas though. *** Spoilers for all the things... Nynaeve's Death: I like your idea that it's ta'veren not the power DKR. Alternatively, it'd be interesting if we find out it wasn't Egwene who did it, but Nynaeve herself somehow.
I just spent some time on an iPad I rarely use too. Still in decent condition though, unlike the old 1st gen one I had a few years ago. Crashed if you looked at it funny.
Agelmar. Rewatched the scene, the wound went pretty deep and the armour's cracked. That said it hit dead center, not his heart. He could've survived. I'd assumed he was dead.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Dec 26, 2021 6:15:00 GMT
Just started snowing here in the last day. (It's still Christmas eve here.) Really lightly all day, heavier now. Very rare for where I am in Canada to get snow. Whole city will shut down tomorrow if there's enough. (And by enough I mean ankle-height.) Makes for a nice surprisingly well timed white christmas though. *** Spoilers for all the things... Nynaeve's Death: I like your idea that it's ta'veren not the power DKR. Alternatively, it'd be interesting if we find out it wasn't Egwene who did it, but Nynaeve herself somehow.
I just spent some time on an iPad I rarely use too. Still in decent condition though, unlike the old 1st gen one I had a few years ago. Crashed if you looked at it funny.
That must’ve been tough. Funny looks are all I give my iPad.
Your alternate theory gives me an idea that is even better.
I was thinking it was a mix of the Power and ta’veren-ness from Egwene. But add her Power and her grief plus two ta’veren in such close proximity and that shit is going to have nuts in it. NEW HEAD CANON ACCEPTED.
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Post by pressedcat on Dec 26, 2021 10:58:21 GMT
"Malign" is a pretty strong word for just saying I don't like something. "Malign" means talking about someone in a spiteful, critical manner, which I have not done. I think it's a little unfair to blow my comment so far out of proportion I said this in one of my other posts already: obviously the way Mat is written is part of the problem, but there is something about Barney Harris's performance that enhances the darkness that was written into his character, for me. That's all. I'm already aware that this is a minority opinion, which is why I was excited to possibly see someone who shares it. I don't see him as a potential villain. He is still under the influence of the dagger, just like he was at this point in the books. He has gone from thief who steals to make his sisters happy (not because he's a terrible person), to someone who risked his life to find and protect his sisters, to bearer of a cursed dagger (like he was in the books), and finally to someone who didn't follow his friends into a cursed alternate dimension (because the actor left the show, so he physically couldn't go with them. From some of the dialogue left in there that was given to Rand and Perrin, you can tell this probably wasn't the showrunners' intention). Perhaps malign wasn’t the best choice of words. I think Barney delivered the performance he was asked for, even if it wasn’t the performance we were hoping for. I can see the potential for the fandom attaching blame to Barney for faults in S1 Mat, especially if in the new seasons the character becomes more fun. Not saying that’s you: quite a few of the characters feel a little off to me too. Honestly, I don’t see him as a potential villain either; I do see the show runners having a will he/won’t he turn to the dark arc to keep audiences guessing. They’ve already set him up as the darkest character, even before the dagger. Added to that, both Moraine (the apparent ‘voice’ of the show) and Egwene have stated quite strong doubts about his character - Rand shooting the latter down and standing up for his friend has probably been one of the best character moments for me incidentally.
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Post by AnDromedary on Dec 26, 2021 19:15:53 GMT
Just finished Ep8. It had some good parts and some bad parts but overall, I really think their storytelling approach is awful. Never mind the changes to the book, just the way they pace things is really weird. Episode spoilers (maybe some book spoilers, too) It just feels like they never take time to introduce something properly. Case in point: The Horn of Valier. So now it's just sitting there in Fal Dara? Kinda takes some of the mysticism away, doesn't it? It used to be found at the Eye of the World after all. By the way, same goes for all the Fal Dara characters as well. Agelmar had 1 scene in the last episode and he was kind of a dick in that one. His sister had maybe 2 scenes. Now we are supposed to care about them and the whole "Helm's Deep" atmosphere hinges upon those few scenes we had to introduce them. I don't know. I mean, I kinda care because I have a connection to them from reading the books but I wonder how non-book-readers would ever really care about any of them. Then there is that entire awful scene about the channelers burning out. While the visuals of them burning out were kinda cool, everything else about it was bad, the whole timing was bad, the trollocs were already gone, there were no stakes anymore, just some woman we barely know going mad with power or whatever. Then Nynaeve "dies" and goes back to life even though something like that really shouldn't be possible at all (a major plot point in the books) ... it was just overall bad. On the positive side, I liked the prologue. Very good art direction there. The Age of Legends looked just right IMO. Same goes for all the scenes involving Mat, Moiraine and "The Dark One" (wink wink nudge nudge). All the actors gave wonderful performances there and really sold the confrontation at the Eye of the World. It was a bit weird that Rand's dream in this episode is actually one of Egwenes visions when she gets tested to become Accepted in the books, especially because here now Rand says that it is his dream, not hers. But that's ok, we are aware now that this series is completely different than the books. The actor who plays "The Dark One" a.k.a. Ishamael is very well cast IMO, pretty much exactly like I'd have imagined him. The first look at the Seanchan Domani was very disturbing, which is a good thing. All in all, the first season was ... weird. I think they would have been much much better of to make 10 episodes and slow things down a little, give us a bit more exposition and take proper time to introduce characters and important objects/aspects of the world, before using them in a plot twist or kill them off or whatever. In general, I think most changes they made from the books (and there are many of them) were detrimental to the story so the screen writers definitely get a thumbs down from me. Visually I am very happy for the most part (except the White Tower itself of all things). Also, I really like the choice of music. It does remind me a bit of the computer game form 2001 at times, which is nice. The actors are doing ok for the most part. In some cases acting was a bit wooden but Rosamunde Pike and the actors of Rand and Nynaeve did particularly well. Also Mat but unfortunately, he's gone now, so not really relevant anymore. All in all, I'd say it was ok but no more. 5/10 cuendillar seals from me.
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Post by Hier0phant on Dec 26, 2021 20:10:09 GMT
About Padan Fain... he should be possessed by Mordeth at this point in the story but there's no signs that he is.
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Post by q5tyhj on Dec 27, 2021 1:28:58 GMT
You know...I was convinced of that too. iirc, part of the reason that stilled/gentled channelers have such a hard time coping is because they can still sense the Source... but when they reach for it, all they find is an empty void. So its this ever-present reminder of what they've lost that makes it hard to move on or accept because its always right there, but still always out of reach
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Post by dragontartare on Dec 27, 2021 6:37:17 GMT
This evening, a friend of mine who hasn't read the books but who has read a lot of other fantasy series came over to start watching the show. She's hooked She stayed longer than she'd intended to because she didn't want to stop watching, but alas, we only got through episode 5 before she had to go home. We're going to finish on Tuesday. The first episode was enough to convince her to read the books. I'm lending her my EotW as soon as I finish rereading it. I know there has been concern about non-readers being able to follow along, but my friend hasn't seemed to have too much trouble so far. Her impressions so far as a non-reader (season 1 spoilers): She immediately realized Tam isn't what he seems when he pulled out the "very nice sword." She thought Rand was the dragon after episode 1 (because of Tam, and Rand being the only redhead), and after 4 she thinks it may be Nynaeve, though she is still suspicious about Rand. She asked me if he'd channeled to get away from Dana, and of course I said nothing, which annoyed the crap out of her . When Logain came on screen, I did have to explain about the taint and some of the backstory from the Breaking. She noticed Padan Fain and his whistling every time without me having to say anything, and even spotted him in Tar Valon where I didn't. She picked up on this being post-apocalyptic Earth as well. She's been emotionally invested at every turn and it's very amusing to watch. I told her about Perrin's wife not actually existing, but she said that his guilt driving him to not want to be violent is working for her. Her favorites so far are Perrin, Nynaeve, and Mat. She doesn't like Moiraine, so I may need to stop being friends with her. For me, most of the negatives that nagged at me the first time no longer bother me. A few still do, but I'm glad to now be able to just enjoy the show for what it is. I hope the same will be true for the things I didn't like about episode 8. You know...I was convinced of that too. iirc, part of the reason that stilled/gentled channelers have such a hard time coping is because they can still sense the Source... but when they reach for it, all they find is an empty void. So its this ever-present reminder of what they've lost that makes it hard to move on or accept because its always right there, but still always out of reach Episode 8 spoilers: I'm glad your memory is better than mine, and better than a whole lot of other people's, by the look of it So I think next season we're definitely looking at Moiraine believing she's been stilled since she can't see weaves of saidin. However, I saw Logain's shielding and gentling again today, and thankfully Ishamael's weaves over Moiraine are definitely a shield. More season 2 casting speculation: If so, I like that choice just going by appearance. I don't think I've seen her in any other roles.
I'm also predicting the following: Laura Crowhurst as Verrin (a little younger than I pictured, but otherwise spot on, so I hope this turns out to be true) Natasha Jayahendry as Faile
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Post by Hier0phant on Dec 27, 2021 12:30:31 GMT
More season 2 casting speculation: If so, I like that choice just going by appearance. I don't think I've seen her in any other roles.
I'm also predicting the following: Laura Crowhurst as Verrin (a little younger than I pictured, but otherwise spot on, so I hope this turns out to be true) Natasha Jayahendry as Faile Crowhurst is a good pick and i think they went for a younger actress due to the character's parts requiring a bit of mobility/traveling, and with Jayahendry i didn't see it at first but she's got that eagle staring at you look which is very fitting. I like the new castings so far.
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Post by dragontartare on Dec 27, 2021 22:45:02 GMT
More season 2 casting speculation. No spoilers really other than character names: I think Crowhurst could fit Anaiya too. Syal looks nothing like how I pictured Verin, not squishy or nerdy enough. I don't think I could picture this woman with ink smudged on her nose. But we'll see. If she can swing it, then it's fine. I really, really hope they will get Shohreh Aghdashloo a.k.a. Admiral Raan for Cadsuane. I have heard nothing about this role at all yet, but she'd be perfect.
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Post by pressedcat on Dec 28, 2021 0:17:37 GMT
I think Crowhurst could fit Anaiya too. Syal looks nothing like how I pictured Verin, not squishy or nerdy enough. I don't think I could picture this woman with ink smudged on her nose. But we'll see. If she can swing it, then it's fine.
I take it you haven’t met the Kumars then? She’s fairly well known in the UK from stage and screen and a decent actor to boot. I’ve pretty much given up on characters looking how I pictured them, but I think she could pull off the vague but with a beady eye. I always liked how unnerving and difficult to pin down Verin was, and I think she has the edge to carry that off.
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Post by pressedcat on Dec 28, 2021 0:28:14 GMT
If Lews Therin Telamon is the Dragon Reborn, what does that make Rand?
The Dragon Reborn Reborn…
Dragon III…
Dragon Junior?
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Post by dragontartare on Dec 28, 2021 1:13:05 GMT
I think Crowhurst could fit Anaiya too. Syal looks nothing like how I pictured Verin, not squishy or nerdy enough. I don't think I could picture this woman with ink smudged on her nose. But we'll see. If she can swing it, then it's fine.
I take it you haven’t met the Kumars then? She’s fairly well known in the UK from stage and screen and a decent actor to boot. I’ve pretty much given up on characters looking how I pictured them, but I think she could pull off the vague but with a beady eye. I always liked how unnerving and difficult to pin down Verin was, and I think she has the edge to carry that off. I have not. Most of the actors in this show are new to me. Most of the casting appearances have worked for me so far. They don't necessarily match my mental image, but they aren't different enough to be jarring. And whether they can act the part is more important to me, so it's good to hear that this actor may be able to pull it off. If Lews Therin Telamon is the Dragon Reborn, what does that make Rand? The Dragon Reborn Reborn… Dragon III… Dragon Junior? Suggestions below! The wheel has no beginning and no end, so technically, every Dragon is the Dragon Reborn That does feel like a mistake, since the "present day" characters have referred to Lews Therin as just "Dragon" before.
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