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Post by themikefest on Aug 16, 2017 14:31:14 GMT
Mysterious Benefactor, murder of Jien Garson, fate of quarians. All things brought up in the game with the obvious intention of following up on. If there's no DLC, that leaves things unfinished. At this point I'm not too worried about a dlc. If one hasn't been released by the end of September, I would guess one won't be released. Could I be wrong? Yes. If no dlc, I doubt folks would want to wait 4, 5 or 6 years to find out the benefactor is.......... By that time some may have lost interest and don't care anymore.
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Post by abaris on Aug 16, 2017 14:55:48 GMT
By that time some may have lost interest and don't care anymore. Don't kid yourself. The bulk of players (not the vocal internet minority) has already moved on to the next shiny on the market.
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Post by themikefest on Aug 16, 2017 14:59:49 GMT
Don't kid yourself. The bulk of players (not the vocal internet minority) has already moved on to the next shiny on the market. Don't kid yourself. You have no idea what the bulk of players are doing. Just because some may have moved on, doesn't mean they forgot about MEA. I'm sure they like to know who the benefactor is. Once a dlc is released, if one is released, they might get it and play it to get answers
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Post by 10k on Aug 16, 2017 15:03:25 GMT
I agree with your post OP. Andromeda is garbage, as far as I'm concerned. Story was dull, characters were wanna be clones from the OT, and side quest were inquisition bad. The only thing I found Andromeda to do better than the other games is character movement in combat, not the actual combat itself.
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Post by abaris on Aug 16, 2017 15:24:58 GMT
Don't kid yourself. You have no idea what the bulk of players are doing. Just because some may have moved on, doesn't mean they forgot about MEA. I'm sure they like to know who the benefactor is. Once a dlc is released, if one is released, they might get it and play it to get answers I'm going by the data sofajockey brought up of most people not even finishing a game. Most people are like gaming locusts, moving from game to game. Otherwise you never get the sales numbers.
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Post by fchopin on Aug 16, 2017 15:44:23 GMT
If you want something more than a -1 then post something more constructive.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2017 15:45:23 GMT
If you want something more than a -1 then post something more constructive. OP makes a shitpost, I return with the same.
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Post by anarchy65 on Aug 16, 2017 15:49:21 GMT
I know maybe the Jien Garson stuff and the Benefactor were intended for a DLC or a sequel, but this was so poorly done. You make a "cliffhanger" like they made the quarian ark, you just mention it and leave it there "in the air".
But Jien Garson they make you investigate her murder (in the middle of the game), you go ahead thinking you're going to investigate until you find the killer, you go find clues on scooby-doo style and then... the quest just ends. SAM tells you he needs more memories, you find them, but they have nothing to do with Jien's murder investigation. And Ryder doesn't seem to give two shits about it, because he doesn't tell anyone (you'd think the fact that the person who created the Initiative was murdered would be something of importance to inform the authorities), nor investigates about the benefactor, the best he does is to ask Tann if he ever heard of a "benefactor".
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Post by anarchy65 on Aug 16, 2017 15:50:17 GMT
If you want something more than a -1 then post something more constructive. Ignore him, he's a troll trying to get my attention at every thread I post because i humiliated him in another thread.
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Post by griffith82 on Aug 16, 2017 16:31:38 GMT
This may sound like a dumb or trollong question...but what was left unfinished? Mysterious Benefactor, murder of Jien Garson, fate of quarians. All things brought up in the game with the obvious intention of following up on. If there's no DLC, that leaves things unfinished. Thing is that wasn't the intention. It looks like they caved inn o the loud minority and won't release dlc. That combined with the troubled development. I can only hope the next game is a sequel and they don't cave in s second time.
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Post by dmc1001 on Aug 16, 2017 16:52:42 GMT
Mysterious Benefactor, murder of Jien Garson, fate of quarians. All things brought up in the game with the obvious intention of following up on. If there's no DLC, that leaves things unfinished. Thing is that wasn't the intention. It looks like they caved inn o the loud minority and won't release dlc. That combined with the troubled development. I can only hope the next game is a sequel and they don't cave in s second time. Yes, and that's my point. It's fine (somewhat) to leave it open when you intend to follow up with DLC. When the DLC is scrapped, we are left with an unfinished game. Also, that means BioWare can't be trusted in the future to offer us complete games if people bitch too loudly about what they got.
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Post by griffith82 on Aug 16, 2017 17:29:53 GMT
Thing is that wasn't the intention. It looks like they caved inn o the loud minority and won't release dlc. That combined with the troubled development. I can only hope the next game is a sequel and they don't cave in s second time. Yes, and that's my point. It's fine (somewhat) to leave it open when you intend to follow up with DLC. When the DLC is scrapped, we are left with an unfinished game. Also, that means BioWare can't be trusted in the future to offer us complete games if people bitch too loudly about what they got. I'd agree if the game was incomplete. It isn't.
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Post by alanc9 on Aug 16, 2017 17:31:51 GMT
I think we need to work on defining "complete."
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Post by Andrew Lucas on Aug 16, 2017 17:43:15 GMT
I love how Biodrones are reacting to the post, which is overly emotional but has many solid points regardless. It's as if you can have the right to blindly love the game, but not hate it... for some reason? Seriously, it's very easy to not open the thread or post in it. So much salt. Get a thicker skin ffs.
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Post by dawnold on Aug 16, 2017 17:47:58 GMT
Just finished my 1st playthrough and there's a lot of stuff that left me wondering. In addition to what was mentioned by by dmc1001:
1. Is the Archon's "soul" still around? According to the autopsy report, the Archon appeared to be "severed" from himself when he plugged into Meridian as if some part of him still remains in the system (think of Agent Smith or Neo from the Matrix movies). Maybe I'm just reading too much into it.
2. One of the messages also speculates that the Angarans could be designed to send and receive "info". Implying that something, someone (maybe the Jardaan) can assume control of the Angarans.
2. One of the loading screen hints say that some of our decisions can have consequences. As far as I can tell, nothing ever really comes to bite us in the butt. The hostile AI under Voeld, siding with/against Krogans, accepting the Primus' offer, accepting the Salarian's intel, the threat from Alain if you choose to execute his mother, martyring Aksul, keeping/raising the exaltation facility, and much more. Gotta wonder if any of these will be resolved and how.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2017 17:49:38 GMT
If you want something more than a -1 then post something more constructive. Ignore him, he's a troll trying to get my attention at every thread I post because i humiliated him in another thread. One does not humiliate another all the while invoking Godwin's Law.
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Post by vonuber on Aug 16, 2017 18:03:35 GMT
I love how Biodrones are reacting to the post, which is overly emotional but has many solid points regardless. It's as if you can have the right to blindly love the game, but not hate it... for some reason? Seriously, it's very easy to not open the thread or post in it. So much salt. Get a thicker skin ffs. Depends though doesn't it? When I post a gif demonstrably proving one of his points wrong and he ignores it.. it's hard to take some of the 'solid points' seriously. I admire his effort though in taking the time to write it.
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Post by Andrew Lucas on Aug 16, 2017 18:30:37 GMT
I love how Biodrones are reacting to the post, which is overly emotional but has many solid points regardless. It's as if you can have the right to blindly love the game, but not hate it... for some reason? Seriously, it's very easy to not open the thread or post in it. So much salt. Get a thicker skin ffs. Depends though doesn't it? When I post a gif demonstrably proving one of his points wrong and he ignores it.. it's hard to take some of the 'solid points' seriously. I admire his effort though in taking the time to write it. Your gifs usually aren't useful, just the already overdone method of trying to appear kewl for the gang. Hard to take them seriously. At least he really explained how he felt about the game's issues instead of pure cussing or follow some blind "positive only" circle-jerk.
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Post by Andrew Lucas on Aug 16, 2017 18:37:29 GMT
Also, yes. The AI is shit. For everyone. I rarely notice companions actually getting kills, they could be removed and I still would do everything, but this is an issue found in the entire saga.
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Post by colfoley on Aug 16, 2017 18:51:26 GMT
This may sound like a dumb or trollong question...but what was left unfinished? Mysterious Benefactor, murder of Jien Garson, fate of quarians. All things brought up in the game with the obvious intention of following up on. If there's no DLC, that leaves things unfinished. they obviously intended for Andromeda to have a sequel. So much so that i doubt even a B&W style expansion would.solve everything. And in point of fact i feel its better to leave things on a cliffhanger then try and do a ham.fisted rushed resolution. However, Andromeda did do everything it set out to do. The main plot and theme of the game was to make Heleus viable. And they did. They didn't bite off more then they could chew.
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Post by colfoley on Aug 16, 2017 18:54:00 GMT
Mysterious Benefactor, murder of Jien Garson, fate of quarians. All things brought up in the game with the obvious intention of following up on. If there's no DLC, that leaves things unfinished. At this point I'm not too worried about a dlc. If one hasn't been released by the end of September, I would guess one won't be released. Could I be wrong? Yes. If no dlc, I doubt folks would want to wait 4, 5 or 6 years to find out the benefactor is.......... By that time some may have lost interest and don't care anymore. I'll wait twenty years for.a potential sequel. Granted i too doubt I'll get one if I'm waiting so long but should MEA 2 EVENTUALLY drop.I'll preorder and probably play the hell out of it.
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Post by dmc1001 on Aug 16, 2017 18:55:08 GMT
Yes, and that's my point. It's fine (somewhat) to leave it open when you intend to follow up with DLC. When the DLC is scrapped, we are left with an unfinished game. Also, that means BioWare can't be trusted in the future to offer us complete games if people bitch too loudly about what they got. I'd agree if the game was incomplete. It isn't. It's partially (even mostly) complete. Please tell me how the following events played out: 1. We learn there's a Mysterious Benefactor(s). Who is it? 2. Someone murdered Jien Garson. Who and why? 3. The quarians send out a message asking them to stay away. What happened to them and why would the AI be at risk if they went to that ark? 4. Ellen Ryder is alive. How do they get her out of cryo? These are significant plots that came about in MEA that have no resolution. If DLC were coming, I'd find that completely acceptable as a way of finishing these plots. However, it's looking less and less likely. BioWare's silence on the issue doesn't help matters. I'd be happy to be proven wrong with a DLC but I no longer believe it's happening.
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Post by dmc1001 on Aug 16, 2017 18:56:50 GMT
Mysterious Benefactor, murder of Jien Garson, fate of quarians. All things brought up in the game with the obvious intention of following up on. If there's no DLC, that leaves things unfinished. they obviously intended for Andromeda to have a sequel. So much so that i doubt even a B&W style expansion would.solve everything. And in point of fact i feel its better to leave things on a cliffhanger then try and do a ham.fisted rushed resolution. However, Andromeda did do everything it set out to do. The main plot and theme of the game was to make Heleus viable. And they did. They didn't bite off more then they could chew. As do I. But at the very least some of this requires immediate attention, particularly the story involving the quarian ark. I don't believe for a second that was planned for a sequel. That had to be meant for DLC. Whatever their intentions, it's what actually happens that counts. If they don't wrap this stuff up, I consider it unfinished.
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Post by abaris on Aug 16, 2017 18:57:29 GMT
Also, yes. The AI is shit. For everyone. I rarely notice companions actually getting kills, they could be removed and I still would do everything, but this is an issue found in the entire saga. In the vanilla game there are a few who can pack a punch. Drack and Cora for the most part. With their melee attacks. Modded they all do some damage.
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Post by dmc1001 on Aug 16, 2017 18:59:34 GMT
Also, yes. The AI is shit. For everyone. I rarely notice companions actually getting kills, they could be removed and I still would do everything, but this is an issue found in the entire saga. In the vanilla game there are a few who can pack a punch. Drack and Cora for the most part. With their melee attacks. Modded they all do some damage. I've seen Liam take out some enemies that were right next to me.
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