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Post by bakgrind on Aug 24, 2017 2:33:52 GMT
Even though I enjoyed the game you can't really argue against that kind of an honest statement. What was so honest about it? What that he believes criticisms were the cause of Andromeda's failure? That just seems to me that he doesn't want to take responsibility. The only honest thing he is say was is: " we have to acknowledge the fact that there were some things that maybe we could have done better." but then he says: "but as a whole, if you go in and you buy the game today with everything that's in it today, I believe that that's a game worth buying, personally." The fact is, if they didn't release the game as a broken mess in the first place we wouldn't be here. Hell, you guys might even had gotten your quarian DLC. Well, I was actually talking about your honest critique of the game and not so much what they had to say. Hope that clears that up
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Aug 24, 2017 2:34:47 GMT
Criticisms don't ruin a game. The game was doomed to fail on its own merits by being broken on launch day. Wrong. It was doomed to fail from the people who couldn't get over the endings and were begging for it to fail. Exactly these idiots hate Mass Effect because it is the "cool" thing to do. Man is society pathetic.
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Post by 10k on Aug 24, 2017 2:42:35 GMT
Wrong. It was doomed to fail from the people who couldn't get over the endings and were begging for it to fail. Exactly these idiots hate Mass Effect because it is the "cool" thing to do. Man is society pathetic. So by people hating Andromeda that resulted in it's failure? There are a lot of gamers out there who loved BW and their games but weren't fond of Andromeda. Gamermd83 is one of them also. She loves BW and their games and she even admits she couldn't get pass 1 playthrough of Andromeda in one of her videos. Andromeda doomed itself.
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Post by mordingrimes on Aug 24, 2017 2:49:05 GMT
Criticisms don't ruin a game. The game was doomed to fail on its own merits by being broken on launch day. Wrong. It was doomed to fail from the people who couldn't get over the endings and were begging for it to fail. Wrong, It was doomed to fail because of all the bugs at launch, crap animations, poor story, poor characters and poorly written dialogue.
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Post by cypherj on Aug 24, 2017 2:51:18 GMT
And interesting read. So maybe there is still a chance ? www.gamespot.com/articles/ea-boss-says-mass-effect-andromeda-got-too-much-cr/1100-6452822/""I usually don't do this, but this is one of those places where I feel like the game got criticised a little bit more than it deserved," Soderlund told GameReactor. "I think the game is actually a great game. Yes, we have to acknowledge the fact that there were some things that maybe we could have done better, absolutely, but as a whole, if you go in and you buy the game today with everything that's in it today, I believe that that's a game worth buying, personally."" But kind of skeptical and apprehensive of this comment... "Hudson returned to BioWare earlier this year to lead the team at BioWare Edmonton. That studio is working on Anthem, BioWare's new IP that Hudson believes "will redefine interactive entertainment." Sounds like if they bring it back they're going to reboot it again. "What we need to be careful though of is, whenever we bring Mass Effect back again, we have to make sure that we bring it back in a really [relevant] way, and in a fresh, exciting place,"he added. "That's my job, and that's Casey's [Hudson] job, and BioWare and the Mass Effect team's job, to figure out what that looks like, and that we don't know yet, but we will."
It also sounds like they literally have no idea what they should do with it, or where it should go next.
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Post by Qolx on Aug 24, 2017 2:51:22 GMT
Criticisms don't ruin a game. The game was doomed to fail on its own merits by being broken on launch day. Wrong. It was doomed to fail from the people who couldn't get over the endings and were begging for it to fail. That means there are more critics than praisers out there. That or the critics are much more powerful than the praisers. Those two or EA cares more about the critics than the praisers. The previous three or... you get the point.
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Post by mordingrimes on Aug 24, 2017 2:53:10 GMT
And interesting read. So maybe there is still a chance ? www.gamespot.com/articles/ea-boss-says-mass-effect-andromeda-got-too-much-cr/1100-6452822/""I usually don't do this, but this is one of those places where I feel like the game got criticised a little bit more than it deserved," Soderlund told GameReactor. "I think the game is actually a great game. Yes, we have to acknowledge the fact that there were some things that maybe we could have done better, absolutely, but as a whole, if you go in and you buy the game today with everything that's in it today, I believe that that's a game worth buying, personally."" But kind of skeptical and apprehensive of this comment... "Hudson returned to BioWare earlier this year to lead the team at BioWare Edmonton. That studio is working on Anthem, BioWare's new IP that Hudson believes "will redefine interactive entertainment." Sounds like if they bring it back they're going to reboot it again. "What we need to be careful though of is, whenever we bring Mass Effect back again, we have to make sure that we bring it back in a really [relevant] way, and in a fresh, exciting place."Good.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Aug 24, 2017 2:53:53 GMT
Let's hope they continue in Andromeda. Lots of stuff yet to be explored. My minimum hope is that they'll do a full game to settle all the sequel hooks in Andromeda, then do whatever the hell they want after that. that would be my minimum requirement as well.
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Post by jeyl on Aug 24, 2017 2:59:01 GMT
I for one do NOT think ME:A is a great game. At all. I've bought it, played it all the way to the end and I have very little interest in seeing where this goes. Exploring Andromeda just doesn't fit with fit with Mass Effect. I've played all the main games in the series and I still find it very hard to believe that Humanity, who only just now earned a seat on the council could convince thousands upon thousands of aliens to leave their homes, family and friends and never come back. It takes way too many liberties and retcons in order to tell a story that comes off as rushed and unfinished.
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Post by cypherj on Aug 24, 2017 3:04:37 GMT
Also reading this, it really sounds like the game didn't sell well at all.
"I usually don't do this, but this is one of those places where I feel like the game got criticised a little bit more than it deserved," Soderlund told GameReactor. "I think the game is actually a great game. Yes, we have to acknowledge the fact that there were some things that maybe we could have done better, absolutely, but as a whole, if you go in and you buy the game today with everything that's in it today, I believe that that's a game worth buying, personally."
No way you say the bolded if the game actually sold well. He probably should have said worth playing. I'm shocked the man was this candid honestly.
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Post by KaiserShep on Aug 24, 2017 3:04:42 GMT
It also sounds like they literally have no idea what they should do with it, or where it should go next. If it's any comfort, the original trilogy sort of functioned like that.
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Post by cypherj on Aug 24, 2017 3:07:31 GMT
It also sounds like they literally have no idea what they should do with it, or where it should go next. If it's any comfort, the original trilogy sort of functioned like that. That statement doesn't sound like they're going to continue the current story though. It sounds more like we're starting from scratch, or going DA style with a new cast.
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Post by vomder on Aug 24, 2017 3:12:41 GMT
This game deserved more criticism than it got. To many people with blinders on gave it a free pass.
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Aug 24, 2017 3:19:01 GMT
This game deserved more criticism than it got. To many people with blinders on gave it a free pass. Hurr durr
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Post by griffith82 on Aug 24, 2017 3:19:28 GMT
Wrong. It was doomed to fail from the people who couldn't get over the endings and were begging for it to fail. Wrong, It was doomed to fail because of all the bugs at launch, crap animations, poor story, poor characters and poorly written dialogue. Bugs and animations yes the rest is subjective so you fail.
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Post by goishen on Aug 24, 2017 3:30:06 GMT
Also reading this, it really sounds like the game didn't sell well at all. "I usually don't do this, but this is one of those places where I feel like the game got criticised a little bit more than it deserved," Soderlund told GameReactor. "I think the game is actually a great game. Yes, we have to acknowledge the fact that there were some things that maybe we could have done better, absolutely, but as a whole, if you go in and you buy the game today with everything that's in it today, I believe that that's a game worth buying, personally." No way you say the bolded if the game actually sold well. He probably should have said worth playing. I'm shocked the man was this candid honestly. It's just like I've said here and/or other places. It sounds like ME:A stopped selling after the first week. Other ME games had a steady stream of income. This? This had nothing after the first week. Sure, it made a profit, but one of those things that EA was banking on was good word of mouth. All that this game had was bad word of mouth. And, I believe, reasonably so. You saw this when after three months, the game dropped to half price. You saw this after about another month or two as the pictures from Goodwill came in and the boxes were marked with Target labels. People here can scream all they want to about how the haters of this game because they wanted to stick it to the man! When they should know that's not true. But fuck it. It feels good to have someone to pin all of your heart's digressions onto, doesn't it?
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Post by shaqfu on Aug 24, 2017 3:37:52 GMT
I agree with him that I think the game at it's point now is worth buying. Sure it's not the greatest game out there but is alright. It's just too bad they decided to release it when they did as a broken mess and destroyed the first impressions and reviews they could have got if they delayed it.
But can only hope it's a learning experience that they won't repeat again
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Post by ENGINEER_H4RR7 on Aug 24, 2017 3:45:30 GMT
The criticism was harsh, but for EA and Bioware to listen to those damn haters and actually decide based on that to suspend the production is just a big FU to fans. Other games that were heavily criticized got DLC, DESTINY and NO MAN SKY to name a few.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2017 3:46:19 GMT
Wrong, It was doomed to fail because of all the bugs at launch, crap animations, poor story, poor characters and poorly written dialogue. Bugs and animations yes the rest is subjective so you fail. Yet so does your argument about the endings. ME3 had NO problem getting 3 dlc (not even counting the extended cut) made for it after the whole ending fallout. You were in the old forums right? ME3 got WAY out of hand, more so than ME:A yet dlc was still made for it. Fans complaining didn't kill the dlc for ME:A. 5 years worth of trouble production and a rushed product did.
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Post by Qolx on Aug 24, 2017 3:52:33 GMT
The claim that BioWare haters were able to kill Andromeda is absurd. I've seen more rotten vitriol towards Blizzard in the Warcraft forums. People love to hate Blizz. Bethesda, Bungie, Capcom... people criticize them harshly. They still kept pumping out titles people crapped on.
BW is on of the few video game companies loved by its fans/customers. Them and Nintendo. Dragon Age 2 was also harshly criticized and there's a 4th game coming. It's ridiculous to claim that ME:A was killed by haters when games that were attacked more viciously survived.
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Post by Sanunes on Aug 24, 2017 4:09:45 GMT
And interesting read. So maybe there is still a chance ? www.gamespot.com/articles/ea-boss-says-mass-effect-andromeda-got-too-much-cr/1100-6452822/""I usually don't do this, but this is one of those places where I feel like the game got criticised a little bit more than it deserved," Soderlund told GameReactor. "I think the game is actually a great game. Yes, we have to acknowledge the fact that there were some things that maybe we could have done better, absolutely, but as a whole, if you go in and you buy the game today with everything that's in it today, I believe that that's a game worth buying, personally."" But kind of skeptical and apprehensive of this comment... "Hudson returned to BioWare earlier this year to lead the team at BioWare Edmonton. That studio is working on Anthem, BioWare's new IP that Hudson believes "will redefine interactive entertainment." Yeah 1.10 should have been 1.00 (the release version). But EA couldn't keep it in their pants for just 5 more months to make it a perfect launch. Now Bioware has had one of its limbs amputated as a result. Try not doing that again EA. The problem is I doubt the majority of changes in 1.10 would have been in the game without the launch of it. The only exception would have been the facial animations and I doubt that would have appeased the people that were upset at "all the ugly females".
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Post by smilesja on Aug 24, 2017 4:29:08 GMT
This game deserved more criticism than it got. To many people with blinders on gave it a free pass. Or they just found it good.
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Post by smilesja on Aug 24, 2017 4:33:30 GMT
Criticisms don't ruin a game. The game was doomed to fail on its own merits by being broken on launch day. Never said it did.
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Post by Element Zero on Aug 24, 2017 4:33:33 GMT
Also reading this, it really sounds like the game didn't sell well at all. "I usually don't do this, but this is one of those places where I feel like the game got criticised a little bit more than it deserved," Soderlund told GameReactor. "I think the game is actually a great game. Yes, we have to acknowledge the fact that there were some things that maybe we could have done better, absolutely, but as a whole, if you go in and you buy the game today with everything that's in it today, I believe that that's a game worth buying, personally." No way you say the bolded if the game actually sold well. He probably should have said worth playing. I'm shocked the man was this candid honestly. I agree with the assumption that the game likely fell well short of their sales goals. It got thrashed out of the gate; so sales likely plummeted very quickly. I also agree with his sentiment. I think you're over analyzing his words. Of course the game underperformed; but his choice of "buy" over "play" is meaningless, in this context.
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Post by OdanUrr on Aug 24, 2017 4:45:23 GMT
So it's a game worth buying today but not one worth supporting with SP DLC, huh? Okay.
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