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Post by Serza on Aug 27, 2017 9:48:56 GMT
Ah, nope. Looks like a clickbait to me.
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Post by traks on Aug 27, 2017 10:04:03 GMT
I wonder: what is the reason for a new thread on this? It's for example already posted here: bsn.boards.net/post/864587/threadAnd there might be ten threads on the front page covering the same theme. Some comments why this has to be discussed in an extra thread would be nice in the OP.
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Post by Serza on Aug 27, 2017 10:07:57 GMT
Eh. "Fuck us" "In our face" ...I dunno, the possibilities seem infinite.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Aug 27, 2017 11:21:49 GMT
YouTubers are having a field day with this aren't they.😑
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Post by abaris on Aug 27, 2017 12:03:49 GMT
YouTubers are having a field day with this aren't they.😑 Same as with the memes. An opportunity for an otherwise unknown youtuber to change a few dimes by slapping the MEA label on their vids. As I said in the other thread, this video is pure speculation and doesn't hold water. If they were convinced of having a bad product, why the Origin promotion before the official release date? At that point in time preorders could still be cancelled.
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Post by griffith82 on Aug 27, 2017 13:07:12 GMT
Kind of a silly analysis tbh. Some of that doesn't make any sense. Sure there were some bugs, animations could have been better, maybe they should have waited longer and polished more. I don't know I waited to buy the game pre-ordered just before it came out. I played DAI - and expected lots of exploration which BioWare said was going to be in the game. It's a good story, different from ME1-3 but what I expected and some nice surprises. Companies want the pre-orders and will market to get the the maximum amount of people to buy, nothing wrong with that strategy. Yeah I agree. It comes off as "EA is a Money grabbing douchebag and I hate them."
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Post by Element Zero on Aug 27, 2017 13:17:34 GMT
This video sucks. It offers nothing new, and doesn't even try to take an unbiased stance. I've enjoyed some of the criticism/analysis videos, but this one is 💩.
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Post by Jeremiah12LGeek on Aug 27, 2017 13:30:12 GMT
For some reason, I don't believe OP has any insight the rest of the world doesn't have.
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Post by Sanunes on Aug 27, 2017 13:33:13 GMT
Kind of a silly analysis tbh. Some of that doesn't make any sense. Sure there were some bugs, animations could have been better, maybe they should have waited longer and polished more. I don't know I waited to buy the game pre-ordered just before it came out. I played DAI - and expected lots of exploration which BioWare said was going to be in the game. It's a good story, different from ME1-3 but what I expected and some nice surprises. Companies want the pre-orders and will market to get the the maximum amount of people to buy, nothing wrong with that strategy. Yeah I agree. It comes off as "EA is a Money grabbing douchebag and I hate them." Yep. These videos will get a few flicks and make a few bucks but gives me the option of classifying them as "those YouTubers are money grabbing douchebags and I hate them." I wonder if people will ever treat Valve this way since they promised three DLC for Half-Life 2, only released two and the second one was a year late and still haven't completed the story after a decade. Nah, what I am thinking that is Valve they can slap a player's face and then they will thank Valve for the spa treatment.
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Post by Sanunes on Aug 27, 2017 14:08:07 GMT
Right, that is what made me think of that. The catch is that he no longer works for Valve and it was 10 years after the release of the second of the three episodes. I have read the only reason why it happened now is because there was a 10 year NDA attached to the game, but that is speculation for I cannot find a way to confirm it. They left it on a cliff hanger and people want a conclusion, but I don't see the hatred aimed at Valve for stringing us a long for a decade by saying nothing about it, Gabe even has a "no Half Life 3" rule for his AMA's. Just seems like if you are going to crap all over a company for doing one thing, it should be done equally across all companies.
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Post by geralt on Aug 27, 2017 14:19:33 GMT
Kind of a silly analysis tbh. Some of that doesn't make any sense. Sure there were some bugs, animations could have been better, maybe they should have waited longer and polished more. I don't know I waited to buy the game pre-ordered just before it came out. I played DAI - and expected lots of exploration which BioWare said was going to be in the game. It's a good story, different from ME1-3 but what I expected and some nice surprises. Companies want the pre-orders and will market to get the the maximum amount of people to buy, nothing wrong with that strategy. I think it is, at least when the money spent marketing can match (or even exceed) the amount spent on the game's production. That's an insane amount of money, I'd love to see the breakdown of one to see where it all goes to and to whom. A lot of that money would be better served going into the actual game instead.
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Post by SofaJockey on Aug 27, 2017 14:30:49 GMT
There's 6 minutes I'm not getting back...
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Post by Andrew Lucas on Aug 27, 2017 14:58:51 GMT
One of the best YouTubers out there, although he didn't say anything new, people just can't hear any analysis that doesn't fit their view.
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Post by clips7 on Aug 27, 2017 15:03:56 GMT
Kind of a silly analysis tbh. Some of that doesn't make any sense. Sure there were some bugs, animations could have been better, maybe they should have waited longer and polished more. I don't know I waited to buy the game pre-ordered just before it came out. I played DAI - and expected lots of exploration which BioWare said was going to be in the game. It's a good story, different from ME1-3 but what I expected and some nice surprises. Companies want the pre-orders and will market to get the the maximum amount of people to buy, nothing wrong with that strategy. I agree with this....and while i do agree with some of the vids statements....i don't think EA was thinking they was going to take the money and run, knowing Andromeda was a bad game (Andromeda is not bad by any means). As i've stated in other similar threads....the game needed to be in EA's fiscal year and so ready or not they made the decision to release it in the form that it was in and it was the s**tstorm/damage control that ensued afterwards.
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Post by Element Zero on Aug 27, 2017 15:07:12 GMT
One of the best YouTubers out there, although he didn't say anything new, people just can't hear any analysis that doesn't fit their view. That doesn't apply to me, and I imagine that it's equally untrue of some others on this forum. This particular video just wasn't very good, in my opinion. I often enjoy dissenting views. This one, though, just wasn't well presented. Contrast this with the lengthy two-part analysis posted in another thread. While those were likely longer than they needed to be, they were well executed and unbiased in presentation.
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Post by abaris on Aug 27, 2017 15:09:58 GMT
One of the best YouTubers out there, although he didn't say anything new, people just can't hear any analysis that doesn't fit their view. If you wanted to con people out of their money, would you make waves via early access, at a time when people still could cancel their preorders based on what they saw or heard? Before the professional reviewers even had a chance to comment? That doesn't make sense to me if the only project was to cash in as quick and complete as possible. That's the problem I have with this vid. The whole Origin Access promotion was the equivalent of fucking themselves over with a sordid lead pipe. Not a clever ploy.
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Post by isaidlunch on Aug 27, 2017 15:36:26 GMT
Bioware did this to themselves, EA isn't responsible. To suggest that EA sabotaged the game is ridiculous.
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Post by abaris on Aug 27, 2017 15:38:04 GMT
To suggest that EA sabotaged the game is ridiculous. In a way they did, although not willingly: The Origin Access promotion can be seen as a form of sabotage.
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Post by Sanunes on Aug 27, 2017 15:38:32 GMT
One of the best YouTubers out there, although he didn't say anything new, people just can't hear any analysis that doesn't fit their view. To be one of the best YouTubers out there a person needs to stay impartial and neutral and they did not in this video. You could say the same thing about this video with your critique for the impression I got watching this video is that they don't want to hear anything about Andromeda that doesn't fit their point of view because he couldn't stay neutral.
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Post by griffith82 on Aug 27, 2017 15:40:22 GMT
There's 6 minutes I'm not getting back... All I can say is why oh why did I sit through the whole thing. Kinda like the Bullwinke movie.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Aug 27, 2017 15:41:27 GMT
Yeah I agree. It comes off as "EA is a Money grabbing douchebag and I hate them." But, do you really argue with that synopsis?
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Post by griffith82 on Aug 27, 2017 15:46:31 GMT
Yeah I agree. It comes off as "EA is a Money grabbing douchebag and I hate them." But, do you really argue with that synopsis? Yup. I don't hate EA they've funded some of my favorite games. But like any company they are in it to make money. They maybe made some mistakes but it is not all in them or Bioware. Like it or not done of us as well as the so called professional critics are responsible as well.
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Post by Sanunes on Aug 27, 2017 15:49:10 GMT
Yeah I agree. It comes off as "EA is a Money grabbing douchebag and I hate them." But, do you really argue with that synopsis? Not I, but I say that about any company. They all just care about money, even if it looks like it is something for the players it is just another way to get more people to buy their game.
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