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Post by Pounce de León on Aug 29, 2017 9:29:20 GMT
Why a remaster when the MET is backward compatible? I find it pointless personally. Utterly so.
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Post by guanxi on Aug 29, 2017 10:06:03 GMT
The trilogy still looks damn good on PC in 4k there's absolutely no need. Full controller support, High Res texture packs available if you want, possibility for custom classes with nearly every single ME3 multi-player power working in single-player (besides Snap Freeze, Flamer and Krogan Hammers) with a bit of knowhow. ME3 still has the best multi-player and gameplay in the series Imo.
If you want ME3 gameplay, play Mass Effect 3. If the trilogy was remastered with ME3 gameplay in ME1 & ME2 then they would loose a lot of their charm and individuality. I love ME2's crushing insanity difficulty the way it is and ME1 while rough around the edges is the only RPG in the entire series and should be preserved for posterity.
If any BioWare game should be remastered with updated visuals, gameplay and gamepad support it's KOTOR.
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Post by Kappa Neko on Aug 29, 2017 10:40:47 GMT
What I want is simply an all DLC version for PC (with native controller support). The still ridiculously expensive DLC are the only reason I haven't bought the trilogy again for PC for the facelift.
The last thing I want is the trilogy remastered in Frostbite. I want nothing changed of the original art style. There is something very cartoon-y about Frostbite, a very particular look, that is awesome for some games but not Mass Effect.
Sure, I would like to have ME3's combat in all three games, but that will never happen.
As for how much sense a remaster makes... I believe quite a number of people would buy it. Not sure it helps Bioware in any way right now though. Besides, they better focus on Anthem and DA4. They cannot afford another shitstorm.
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Post by guanxi on Aug 29, 2017 10:49:14 GMT
What I want is simply an all DLC version for PC (with native controller support). The still ridiculously expensive DLC are the only reason I haven't bought the trilogy again for PC for the facelift. The last thing I want is the trilogy remastered in Frostbite. I want nothing changed of the original art style. There is something very cartoon-y about Frostbite, a very particular look, that is awesome for some games but not Mass Effect. Sure, I would like to have ME3's combat in all three games, but that will never happen. As for how much sense a remaster makes... I believe quite a number of people would buy it. Not sure it helps Bioware in any way right now though. Besides, they better focus on Anthem and DA4. They cannot afford another shitstorm. If you ever do upgrade to the pc version, try this mod. It's not native pc gamepad support but pretty damn close, as close as to be nearly indistinguishable from the Xbox 360 version. It's available for all 3 games. www.nexusmods.com/masseffect3/mods/407/?
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Post by Kappa Neko on Aug 29, 2017 11:09:39 GMT
What I want is simply an all DLC version for PC (with native controller support). The still ridiculously expensive DLC are the only reason I haven't bought the trilogy again for PC for the facelift. The last thing I want is the trilogy remastered in Frostbite. I want nothing changed of the original art style. There is something very cartoon-y about Frostbite, a very particular look, that is awesome for some games but not Mass Effect. Sure, I would like to have ME3's combat in all three games, but that will never happen. As for how much sense a remaster makes... I believe quite a number of people would buy it. Not sure it helps Bioware in any way right now though. Besides, they better focus on Anthem and DA4. They cannot afford another shitstorm. If you ever do upgrade to the pc version, try this mod. It's not native pc gamepad support but pretty damn close, as close as to be nearly indistinguishable from the Xbox 360 version. It's available for all 3 games. www.nexusmods.com/masseffect3/mods/407/?Yes, I know. The controller support is not that big a problem. The DLC ripoff situation is. I paid 70 euros (!) for not even all the DLC (skipped Bring down the Sky and Arrival) on Xbox years after release. Not buying Bioware Points to pay that much money once more. And replaying without DLC is stupid.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Aug 29, 2017 11:23:07 GMT
Why a remaster when the MET is backward compatible? I find it pointless personally. Utterly so. It doesn't exist on ps4.
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Post by guanxi on Aug 29, 2017 11:26:22 GMT
If you ever do upgrade to the pc version, try this mod. It's not native pc gamepad support but pretty damn close, as close as to be nearly indistinguishable from the Xbox 360 version. It's available for all 3 games. www.nexusmods.com/masseffect3/mods/407/?Yes, I know. The controller support is not that big a problem. The DLC ripoff situation is. I paid 70 euros (!) for not even all the DLC (skipped Bring down the Sky and Arrival) on Xbox years after release. Not buying Bioware Points to pay that much money once more. And replaying without DLC is stupid. I bought ME3 on origin, and I don't condone piracy but having already bought all of the DLC already on Xbox, I found while the DLC prices are unreasonable, there's a popular ME3 torrent going around that contains all of the DLC, from story DLC to the Robot Dog. If you you were to copy-paste it over your Mass Effect 3 (origins) game directory you'd have everything. I can still play multiplayer just fine with the latest patch(es) and extracted all of my favourite powers from multi-player DLC from Dark Sphere, to Poison Strike to Annihilation (Field), etc. using various guides to re-create multiplayer classes in single player. Console commands add so many amazing possibilities... I recently played Omega again and I changed Aria's powers giving her Annihilation Field instead of Flare because I've always suspected Annihilation would be amazing biotic power on a squamate with a detonator like lash, who you could direct all over the map, and it's been so much fun than I've ever had with MEA.
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Post by KaiserShep on Aug 29, 2017 11:35:04 GMT
What does the ending to ME3 have to do with a remaster? Well, there's no denying that the ending is a problematic part of the trilogy. Knowing how it ends could affect its chances, even if it's not something a lot of players actually see for themselves, given completion rates.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Aug 29, 2017 11:37:36 GMT
What does the ending to ME3 have to do with a remaster? Well, there's no denying that the ending is a problematic part of the trilogy. Knowing how it ends could affect its chances, even if it's not something a lot of players actually see for themselves, given completion rates. Well, crazy idea, but what if it's a "remake" but they just fix the ending or redo it?
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Post by themikefest on Aug 29, 2017 11:52:04 GMT
Well, there's no denying that the ending is a problematic part of the trilogy. Knowing how it ends could affect its chances, even if it's not something a lot of players actually see for themselves, given completion rates. It might, but I would guess if all 3 games, all dlc and weapon and armor packs are included for $59.99, they would overlook the ending and enjoy the rest of the trilogy.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Aug 29, 2017 11:54:25 GMT
Well, there's no denying that the ending is a problematic part of the trilogy. Knowing how it ends could affect its chances, even if it's not something a lot of players actually see for themselves, given completion rates. It might, but I would guess if all 3 games, all dlc and weapon and armor packs are included for $59.99, they would overlook the ending and enjoy the rest of the trilogy. I don't know, people immediately brought up the endings when Husdson took over as GM and what ME3 is five years old? So, yea gamers have a loonng memory.
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Post by Sondergaard on Aug 29, 2017 12:49:18 GMT
Well, there's no denying that the ending is a problematic part of the trilogy. Knowing how it ends could affect its chances, even if it's not something a lot of players actually see for themselves, given completion rates. Well, crazy idea, but what if it's a "remake" but they just fix the ending or redo it? Personally I think this is the only way forward if they want to continue with ME after the MEA debacle. Strip out the catalyst and go straight to Destroy after the Shep/Anderson conversation. It's the most popular ending (85% of completed playthroughs end in it apparently, though don't ask me where I read that) and we have a severely damaged galaxy to rebuild in ME4. Shepard can live and rehabilitate off screen or die and be remembered as a hero. And they could explain the Cerberus coup attempt while they're at it (I think I know the real reason, the coup was originally meant to come after Thessia as Cerberus tried to move the Citadel to Earth/somewhere else themselves).
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Post by ozzie on Aug 29, 2017 14:11:14 GMT
Well, crazy idea, but what if it's a "remake" but they just fix the ending or redo it? Personally I think this is the only way forward if they want to continue with ME after the MEA debacle. Strip out the catalyst and go straight to Destroy after the Shep/Anderson conversation. It's the most popular ending (85% of completed playthroughs end in it apparently, though don't ask me where I read that) and we have a severely damaged galaxy to rebuild in ME4. Shepard can live and rehabilitate off screen or die and be remembered as a hero. And they could explain the Cerberus coup attempt while they're at it (I think I know the real reason, the coup was originally meant to come after Thessia as Cerberus tried to move the Citadel to Earth/somewhere else themselves). Personally, I think you could use either Destroy or Control, but never Synthesis #Never Synthesis. I would work OK provided your theoretical ME4 plot arc isn't another galactic grand menace scenario as Reaper-Shep would be indifferent to it. From there is it mostly flavour dialogue, changing the design of the Mass Relays might be a nice touch depending if they were Reaper-Shep built or Council built... or you could even have set before the Mass Relays have even been reconstructed or in a cluster yet to be reconnected.
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Post by OrbitalWings on Aug 29, 2017 14:26:28 GMT
It's amazing how much the Synthesis ending simply being an option has had an impact on the Mass Effect franchise as a whole.
Destroy/Control are easy to continue from with a few dialogue differences between them - getting away from dealing with Synthesis is why we went to Andromeda.
I said it in the thread on how to continue the franchise, but if MEA2 isn't an option, my first choice would definitely be handwave ME3's ending and just continue on in the Milky Way with a vague 'Shepard beat the Reapers 50 years ago' backstory. Is preserving the validity of the 'space magic turns everyone in the galaxy into some interconnected techno-organic potentially-hivemind singularity without their consent' really that important anymore?
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Post by themikefest on Aug 29, 2017 14:29:41 GMT
the coup was originally meant to come after Thessia https://www.reddit.com/r/masseffect/comments/1wyz7e/some_interesting_facts_about_me3s_development/
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Post by ozzie on Aug 29, 2017 15:05:43 GMT
the coup was originally meant to come after Thessia https://www.reddit.com/r/masseffect/comments/1wyz7e/some_interesting_facts_about_me3s_development/ Damn deadlines again!
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Post by alanc9 on Aug 29, 2017 15:07:53 GMT
Are there really players who just won't use Origin? It seems awfully silly and self-destructive.
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Post by Elfen Lied on Aug 29, 2017 15:09:30 GMT
When I am done with a game I never go back to it, no matter how good it was. Life is too short and there are so many games out there that I haven't played yet or that will be out and I'll have to play. A remaster of the OT would be totally worthless to me cause I cannot afford to come back to a game that I have already played the hell out of.
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Post by KaiserShep on Aug 29, 2017 15:09:51 GMT
Well, crazy idea, but what if it's a "remake" but they just fix the ending or redo it? Personally I think this is the only way forward if they want to continue with ME after the MEA debacle. Strip out the catalyst and go straight to Destroy after the Shep/Anderson conversation. It's the most popular ending (85% of completed playthroughs end in it apparently, though don't ask me where I read that) and we have a severely damaged galaxy to rebuild in ME4. Shepard can live and rehabilitate off screen or die and be remembered as a hero. And they could explain the Cerberus coup attempt while they're at it (I think I know the real reason, the coup was originally meant to come after Thessia as Cerberus tried to move the Citadel to Earth/somewhere else themselves). There's no real need to address the Catalyst. Simply not playing Shepard again solves that problem since s/he is the only being in the galaxy to be aware of its existence, and reconstruction of the galaxy's infrastructure would be beyond their lifetime anyhow.
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Post by majesticjazz on Aug 29, 2017 15:14:57 GMT
People would rather play as Shepard than teeny-bopper Ryder.
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Post by alanc9 on Aug 29, 2017 15:17:52 GMT
Well, crazy idea, but what if it's a "remake" but they just fix the ending or redo it? Personally I think this is the only way forward if they want to continue with ME after the MEA debacle. Strip out the catalyst and go straight to Destroy after the Shep/Anderson conversation. It's the most popular ending (85% of completed playthroughs end in it apparently, though don't ask me where I read that) and we have a severely damaged galaxy to rebuild in ME4. Shepard can live and rehabilitate off screen or die and be remembered as a hero. And they could explain the Cerberus coup attempt while they're at it (I think I know the real reason, the coup was originally meant to come after Thessia as Cerberus tried to move the Citadel to Earth/somewhere else themselves). The fix is to give players something that they can already have?
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Post by KaiserShep on Aug 29, 2017 15:19:52 GMT
Get Cyberpunk 2077 and forget about Mass Effect. Well I imagine I would have forgotten about a lot of things by 2021.
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Post by Qolx on Aug 29, 2017 15:52:53 GMT
Personally I think this is the only way forward if they want to continue with ME after the MEA debacle. Strip out the catalyst and go straight to Destroy after the Shep/Anderson conversation. It's the most popular ending (85% of completed playthroughs end in it apparently, though don't ask me where I read that) and we have a severely damaged galaxy to rebuild in ME4. Shepard can live and rehabilitate off screen or die and be remembered as a hero. And they could explain the Cerberus coup attempt while they're at it (I think I know the real reason, the coup was originally meant to come after Thessia as Cerberus tried to move the Citadel to Earth/somewhere else themselves). The fix is to give players something that they can already have? Yes, in certain contexts. Xbox One X will be backwards-compatible with 360 and OGbox games. We can already play those games in their own consoles but the streamlining makes the X1X more attractive to consumers. There's objective value added in this context (fewer purchases, fewer consoles, less headache) A remaster of the trilogy makes little sense because it doesn't streamline much for consumers, the added value is mainly subjective, and would mostly provide graphical improvements. That's from the consumer POV (EA would offer a remaster if they can profit, of course). It would be more beneficial to consumers if the OT were to be fully repackaged (games + all DLC) at an attractive price then made available on current (or future) platforms (X1X above is a good example). That'd result in exactly one purchase for all available MET content.
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Post by alanc9 on Aug 29, 2017 15:58:43 GMT
The proposal seems most useful to the PlayStation crowd.
I'd buy a trilogy pack with DLC for about $30 myself. PC, so the remastering part isn't all that relevant.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Aug 29, 2017 15:59:40 GMT
People would rather play as Shepard than teeny-bopper Ryder. I wouldn't. I prefer Ryder over Shepard.
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