MASS EFFECT ISN'T DEAD [BioFan Video]

that's actually not a comforting thought.

ME1 and ME2 weren't 60-100 hour RPGs

All I'm talking about is hrs. If MEA was a shorter game would that have made a difference? If I had to choose, I'd prefer quality over quantity.

and checking it twice.

I think a tightened storyline would have greatly benefited MEA.  The exploration wasn't very exploratory (considering everything had already been seen/settled by someone else), so less of that and more actual plot.  I like open world games, but BW still hasn't done a good job with them.

Lol salty?

It is you and smilesja that are making statements that lack logic.

1) You claim that Anthem is so big of a project, that EA had to cut MEA support short in order to support Anthem.

2) I rebutted with providing facts that showed that when EA had another big peoject, SWTOR a project that may have been bigger than Anthem due to server cost, all the VOs, all the writers etc. With SWTOR, despite the large scope, did not require to have Bioware cut support short for DAI and and ME3 post release.

3) So if EA was able to soldier on with supporting DAI and ME3 post release with SP content all while still working on the massive SWTOR project which at the time was consideres the largest and most expensive endeavour EA has ever done. Why couldn't EA continue to support MEA with SP DLC post release? They did it with SWTOR/DAI/ME3. So what makes MEA/Anthem so different?

What you, smilesja and a few others are doing is simply trying to find a positive spin on why MEA isnt getting SP DLC. People like yourself, smilesja, colefy etc were all in denial before and didnt want to believe that SP DLC wasnt coming. You all came up with wild and emotion based reasons as to despite the low review scores and negative reception, MEA was still a popular game that EA was not going to abandon. Now that they abandoned it, you create a silver lining that makes it seem like no SP DLC was the #1 plan from the start and use Anthem as your leverage. I use SWTOR as an example to show how your logic wad used in the past but you ignore that.



EDIT: Here is where EA confirmed that SWTOR was their most expensive project ever www.digitalspy.com/gaming/news/a222069/swtor-named-most-expensive-ea-project/

SWTOR had 665 people work on it: www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-03-08-665-people-worked-on-star-wars-the-old-republic

And that isnt counting VAs. Yeah, nearly $200million in cost. That is almost a quarter a billion dollars and yet EA never had to stop support on past Bioware games just to focus on SWTOR.

Also your argument is the one that is falling apart. Were you, smilesja and others just a few weeks ago claiming that SP DLC was still incoming? Wasnt it you, smilesja and others claiming that despite Montreal being shut down, SP DLC can still be made by Edmonton or even Austin? Wasnt it you, smilesja and others saying that EA was happy with the success/sales of MEA and that alone shows that DLC is a possibility and that EA will go forward with SP DLC cause it was a success in their eyes? Yeah....how did that argument work out for you?

Indeed. Watching the mental gymnastics the defenders go through is both funny and sad

It is worth noting the news from EA if you believe it only bears out a critical argument. The game DID sell well. It met its expectations. But EA apparently no longer uses sales figures to judge if a game is worth expansions, and a sequel. They use 'word of mouth'.

Do you know how many people are working on Anthem or how expensive it is?  Didn't think so.  

You make me really miss Debate competitions in high school, Jazz.  Mostly because I wish all of my opponents were as talented at it as you.  Would have made getting those trophies a hell of a lot easier. 

I had argued that the evidence prior to the Bioware announcement was inconclusive, and that I would wait to make my assertions, but that SP DLC was certainly still a possibility.  It turned out to not be, but that doesn't mean my arguments for why it still could be a possibility were wrong.  Your assertion is that if I said there was a 50% possibility that a coin flipped landed heads and it landed tails that I was incorrect.  I was not incorrect, the probability existed, however it didn't "flip" that way.  That doesn't make my arguments wrong.  Also, after it was proved that Montreal was actually merged with Motive instead of just a building-sharing deal, I did change my assessment that SP DLC was less likely than what I originally thought.  That's called "reading the situation" and "using evidence".  Again, you are equating two different times at EA and Bioware with very different situations.  You haven't yet commented on how ME3 was done by a main studio and MEA was not, nor how the studio who worked on the main game didn't do the DLC, a support studio did that.  You fail to recognize that if SWOTOR was a huge undertaking, what do you think making a Destiny-like multi-player world in 4K like Anthem would be like?  Probably bigger, yes?  As well as the other responsibilities that Bioware has to EA right now with their Star Wars games that have to meet a certain launch schedule due to the movies schedule.  And with Anthem delayed already, doesn't it make sense that part way through MEA production they might be like "Oh, shit.  We need to get more people on Anthem.  You guys, hurry up with MEA and help us over here."  MEA was already delayed and had subpar development, so they went with what they had, didn't plan for SP DLC.  

But no, you are right.  The narrative that Bioware canceled SP DLC due to reception, but started authors working on books ABOUT that DLC waaaay before launch makes perfect sense.  Nice timeline analysis.  

I agree with your assessment, But I know what I want.