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Post by majesticjazz on Sept 4, 2017 2:59:47 GMT
 don't mind them That pretty much sums up this place. |
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Post by colfoley on Sept 4, 2017 3:00:23 GMT
keep in mind i take metacritic with an atom of salt... But interesting. Also i.might add battlefront was released a while ago. And is a part of the star wars ip. Even if you aren't interested in the hard numbers as a measure of quality, its firmly within the range of MEA's scores as well. If anything the IP and name of the game boosted it somewhat, the same can also be said of MEA so ymmv. I'm interested in accurate meaningful hard numbers. Metacritic is neither. |
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Post by colfoley on Sept 4, 2017 3:01:19 GMT
don't mind them That pretty much sums up this place. what goal posts have been moved? |
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Post by majesticjazz on Sept 4, 2017 3:01:44 GMT
Even if you aren't interested in the hard numbers as a measure of quality, its firmly within the range of MEA's scores as well. If anything the IP and name of the game boosted it somewhat, the same can also be said of MEA so ymmv. I'm interested in accurate meaningful hard numbers. Metacritic is neither. But doesnt Metacritic play a factor in word of mouth? And isnt word of mouth tje new focus of EA? |
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Post by Qolx on Sept 4, 2017 3:03:01 GMT
keep in mind i take metacritic with an atom of salt...But interesting. Also i.might add battlefront was released a while ago. And is a part of the star wars ip. Name the site and/or reviewer you take seriously so we can link their similar scores. Also, Battlefront was released Nov 2015, that's recently. Don't stop believing, colfoley  |
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Post by Steelcan on Sept 4, 2017 3:03:54 GMT
Even if you aren't interested in the hard numbers as a measure of quality, its firmly within the range of MEA's scores as well. If anything the IP and name of the game boosted it somewhat, the same can also be said of MEA so ymmv. I'm interested in accurate meaningful hard numbers. Metacritic is neither. well tough, we know MEA released in a profitable quarter for EA and they attributed the profits of the quarter in part to the game, it does not however give us an actual dollar figure on its profitability. All we know is they cancelled any further DLC that may or may not (it was) in development. The little hints in the game to unfinished business like the quarian ark heavily indicated that this was planned DLC content, similar to Aria talking about Omega in ME3. |
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Post by smilesja on Sept 4, 2017 3:04:03 GMT
majesticjazz can't troll BSN when BSN trolls itself. fingertotemple.jpg The BSN has a diversity of opinions rather than a singular one. |
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Post by maximusarael020 on Sept 4, 2017 3:04:15 GMT
I'm sorry, majesticjazz . I didn't mean it. I was wrong and you were right. I'm sure Bioware saw the fan response to Andromeda early enough to plan that the "DLC" stories would be discussed via novels and comics and told the authors about it at least a year before launch, but still planned on doing SP DLC and then canceled that after the foreseen fan response. You don't need to do anything... rash. You do matter. I promise, buddy. Look! You were right! I said so right there! You're right and important and all that. Good job, buddy! *head-pat There's no reason to think the entire Quarian DLC story would be done in a novel, undoubtedly it'd have followed a similar vein to the other ME novels and comics to set up future content. They simply changed that plan when it became clear they wouldn't do MEA SP DLC Riight right right right. Because Bioware said that the issues of the Quarian Ark plot and others would be wrapped up in novels, and there's a novel about the Quarian Ark that has been in the works, but that's just a setup to the DLC that was definitely canceled, and instead they'll have a different novel written that actually resolves the Quarian Ark story, but that'll take time to set up since they just canceled the DLC due to customer response, so that'll take like over a year or so at least to write (since novels take a while to write, go in for changes, be edited, reviewed again, etc etc until publishing) and then hope that the game that had so bad fan response that the SP DLC got canceled will have a big enough fan base to make money off of the book some year and half or more after the game is released. That's your idea? Cool! Sounds great. I like the part of it where it has logic in it.  |
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Post by colfoley on Sept 4, 2017 3:04:34 GMT
I'm interested in accurate meaningful hard numbers. Metacritic is neither. But doesnt Metacritic play a factor in word of mouth? And isnt word of mouth tje new focus of EA? sigh. I know. Ea clearly disagrees with me. Though the only specific area that ea mentioned as being useful to them was reddit. |
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Post by colfoley on Sept 4, 2017 3:05:38 GMT
keep in mind i take metacritic with an atom of salt...But interesting. Also i.might add battlefront was released a while ago. And is a part of the star wars ip. Name the site and/or reviewer you take seriously so we can link their similar scores. Also, Battlefront was released Nov 2015, that's recently. Don't stop believing, colfoley believing what? |
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Post by smilesja on Sept 4, 2017 3:05:56 GMT
But doesnt Metacritic play a factor in word of mouth? And isnt word of mouth tje new focus of EA? sigh. I know. Ea clearly disagrees with me. Though the only specific area that ea mentioned as being useful to them was reddit. Which I did not like at all. |
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Post by Steelcan on Sept 4, 2017 3:06:01 GMT
There's no reason to think the entire Quarian DLC story would be done in a novel, undoubtedly it'd have followed a similar vein to the other ME novels and comics to set up future content. They simply changed that plan when it became clear they wouldn't do MEA SP DLC Riight right right right. Because Bioware said that the issues of the Quarian Ark plot and others would be wrapped up in novels, and there's a novel about the Quarian Ark that has been in the works, but that's just a setup to the DLC that was definitely canceled, and instead they'll have a different novel written that actually resolves the Quarian Ark story, but that'll take time to set up since they just canceled the DLC due to customer response, so that'll take like over a year or so at least to write (since novels take a while to write, go in for changes, be edited, reviewed again, etc etc until publishing) and then hope that the game that had so bad fan response that the SP DLC got canceled will have a big enough fan base to make money off of the book some year and half or more after the game is released. That's your idea? Cool! Sounds great. I like the part of it where it has logic in it. keep drinking that kool-aid |
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Post by maximusarael020 on Sept 4, 2017 3:07:53 GMT
Riight right right right. Because Bioware said that the issues of the Quarian Ark plot and others would be wrapped up in novels, and there's a novel about the Quarian Ark that has been in the works, but that's just a setup to the DLC that was definitely canceled, and instead they'll have a different novel written that actually resolves the Quarian Ark story, but that'll take time to set up since they just canceled the DLC due to customer response, so that'll take like over a year or so at least to write (since novels take a while to write, go in for changes, be edited, reviewed again, etc etc until publishing) and then hope that the game that had so bad fan response that the SP DLC got canceled will have a big enough fan base to make money off of the book some year and half or more after the game is released. That's your idea? Cool! Sounds great. I like the part of it where it has logic in it. keep drinking that kool-aid Ha, good rebuttal! I like the part where it had things in it to contradict my logic. It was great.  |
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Post by Steelcan on Sept 4, 2017 3:12:03 GMT
keep drinking that kool-aid Ha, good rebuttal! I like the part where it had things in it to contradict my logic. It was great. your logic boils down to "they can't have cancelled any DLC because they weren't planning any DLC, because comics! books! Anthem!" keep grabbing at straws, who knows, maybe you'll make a raft some day. Meanwhile the rest of us can accept the game went down like a stone parachute and that the DLC was axed because of that. No need to try and justify it because of comics and books which can have their scope changed at will. Assuming of course the book actually comes out at some point, still waiting on that Deception re-write. |
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Post by Steelcan on Sept 4, 2017 3:13:23 GMT
Give me proof the book on the Quarian ark was always designed to wrap up the story in its entirety and not just set it up for Ryder to finish up.
Meanwhile I'll look at other set up comics like Invasion
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Post by Qolx on Sept 4, 2017 3:19:24 GMT
colfoley bottom line: the crap game was killed and its crap DLC was killed. Hard numbers and/or word of mouth, EA killed it because it was mostly negatives. Most people simply did not like this crap game. Crapdromeda.  At least you can replay it to your heart's content + the books are coming out soon! 
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Post by smilesja on Sept 4, 2017 3:21:54 GMT
colfoley bottom line: the crap game was killed and its crap DLC was killed. Hard numbers and/or word of mouth, EA killed it because it was mostly negatives. Most people simply did not like this crap game. Crapdromeda. At least you can replay it to your heart's content + the books are coming out soon!  |
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Post by maximusarael020 on Sept 4, 2017 3:32:40 GMT
Ha, good rebuttal! I like the part where it had things in it to contradict my logic. It was great. your logic boils down to "they can't have cancelled any DLC because they weren't planning any DLC, because comics! books! Anthem!" keep grabbing at straws, who knows, maybe you'll make a raft some day. Meanwhile the rest of us can accept the game went down like a stone parachute and that the DLC was axed because of that. No need to try and justify it because of comics and books which can have their scope changed at will. Assuming of course the book actually comes out at some point, still waiting on that Deception re-write. Yeah, but mine is the only logic that is backed by the evidence.  I'm sure someday if you and Jazzy put your heads together you can come up with a verifiable theory about something. I'll get you started with "Water is Wet". Suiko needed evidence for that a while back, so you can help him out. |
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Post by majesticjazz on Sept 4, 2017 3:34:23 GMT
Give me proof the book on the Quarian ark was always designed to wrap up the story in its entirety and not just set it up for Ryder to finish up. Meanwhile I'll look at other set up comics like InvasionWasnt the novel changed from Annihilation to The Lost Ark? Why was it changed? And wasnt Annihilation supposed to release Summer 2017? But imstead Lost Ark is coming Dec 2017.... |
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Post by Steelcan on Sept 4, 2017 3:39:16 GMT
your logic boils down to "they can't have cancelled any DLC because they weren't planning any DLC, because comics! books! Anthem!" keep grabbing at straws, who knows, maybe you'll make a raft some day. Meanwhile the rest of us can accept the game went down like a stone parachute and that the DLC was axed because of that. No need to try and justify it because of comics and books which can have their scope changed at will. Assuming of course the book actually comes out at some point, still waiting on that Deception re-write. Yeah, but mine is the only logic that is backed by the evidence. I'm sure someday if you and Jazzy put your heads together you can come up with a verifiable theory about something. I'll get you started with "Water is Wet". Suiko needed evidence for that a while back, so you can help him out. you got proof of what I asked for above? Or are you just flailing about for a gasp of hope? Because unless you do have evidence that the books were always intended to wrap up the Quarin ark storyline in its entirety and not just set up a DLC, as other media such as books and comics have done before, I'm going to stick with the theory that has precedence in the series. |
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Post by Steelcan on Sept 4, 2017 3:39:57 GMT
Give me proof the book on the Quarian ark was always designed to wrap up the story in its entirety and not just set it up for Ryder to finish up. Meanwhile I'll look at other set up comics like InvasionWasnt the novel changed from Annihilation to The Lost Ark? Why was it changed? And wasnt Annihilation supposed to release Summer 2017? But imstead Lost Ark is coming Dec 2017.... IT WAS ALWAYS PLANNED THAT WAY AND ANYONE WHO SAYS OTHERWISE DOESN'T UNDERSTAND LOGIC |
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Post by suikoden on Sept 4, 2017 3:42:10 GMT
keep drinking that kool-aid Ha, good rebuttal! I like the part where it had things in it to contradict my logic. It was great. ...why were the novels delayed all of a sudden? ...why did Mac get added as a co-author to the last novel? It could be...because DLC was originally planned, but now answers need to be shoehorned into the novels. |
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Post by Steelcan on Sept 4, 2017 3:42:40 GMT
Ha, good rebuttal! I like the part where it had things in it to contradict my logic. It was great. ...why were the novels delayed all of a sudden? ...why did Mac get added as a co-author to the last novel? It could be...because DLC was originally planned, but now answers need to be shoehorned into the novels. nope that isn't logical at all yes I'm using my own definition of logic |
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Post by maximusarael020 on Sept 4, 2017 3:43:07 GMT
Yeah, but mine is the only logic that is backed by the evidence. I'm sure someday if you and Jazzy put your heads together you can come up with a verifiable theory about something. I'll get you started with "Water is Wet". Suiko needed evidence for that a while back, so you can help him out. you got proof of what I asked for above? Or are you just flailing about for a gasp of hope? Because unless you do have evidence that the books were always intended to wrap up the Quarin ark storyline in its entirety and not just set up a DLC, as other media such as books and comics have done before, I'm going to stick with the theory that has precedence in the series. They don't normally release the plots to books before they come out, so of course I have no evidence. Do you even know how books work? You don't have any evidence either, except that at least mine fits in with the timeline of reality and yours means Bioware can see the future, soooo...... |
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Post by Steelcan on Sept 4, 2017 3:44:41 GMT
you got proof of what I asked for above? Or are you just flailing about for a gasp of hope? Because unless you do have evidence that the books were always intended to wrap up the Quarin ark storyline in its entirety and not just set up a DLC, as other media such as books and comics have done before, I'm going to stick with the theory that has precedence in the series. They don't normally release the plots to books before they come out, so of course I have no evidence. Do you even know how books work? You don't have any evidence either, except that at least mine fits in with the timeline of reality and yours means Bioware can see the future, soooo...... Not really, it means BioWare/EA decided to can the DLC and put it into the already planned book that was going to set up the DLC and instead wrap up the whole story because they decided no SP DLC. It flows pretty logically, at least for those of us with a normal definition of logical. |
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