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Post by majesticjazz on Sept 3, 2017 0:45:20 GMT
I think the main thing that detractors are unwilling to accept our realize is that Andromeda was not a "failure" due to setting. The complaints were mostly animations, glitches, CC, poor antagonist, mediocre writing, lack-luster quest design, uninteresting dialogue, and lack of impactful choices. Suiko, anything I'm missing? Contact the Legion and let me know. So to continue in Andromeda they just need a MEA2 that fixes those issues. If MEA2 is a 9.5/10, GOTY blockbuster of a game, the fandom will buy it. Gamers will buy it. If it's a great Mass Effect game, things will be forgiven. It doesn't need to be in the MW to be a great Mass Effect game. Honestly Andromeda is a great setting, but Bioware F'd it up. I meam, we are supposed to be a pathfinder exploring, but everything was already settled before we even got there. We are supposed to find a place for the MW races to settle down, but Sloan Kelly had already did that with Kadara. So what really was Ryder's purpose? A MEA2 should stay in Andromeda and push forward a few centuries. |
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Post by suikoden on Sept 3, 2017 0:45:57 GMT
I think the main thing that detractors are unwilling to accept our realize is that Andromeda was not a "failure" due to setting. The complaints were mostly animations, glitches, CC, poor antagonist, mediocre writing, lack-luster quest design, uninteresting dialogue, and lack of impactful choices. Suiko, anything I'm missing? Contact the Legion and let me know. So to continue in Andromeda they just need a MEA2 that fixes those issues. If MEA2 is a 9.5/10, GOTY blockbuster of a game, the fandom will buy it. Gamers will buy it. If it's a great Mass Effect game, things will be forgiven. It doesn't need to be in the MW to be a great Mass Effect game. The setting sucked as well. Multiple desert worlds, stereotypical Star Wars ice planets - the world building within Andromeda was amateur hour. With floating rocks! If a sequel was GOTY material, I wouldn't buy it if it meant playing as Ryder and his high school squad again. I'd only buy a sequel if everything about the game was completely redone - No Ryder, no Archon, no Kett, no Angara - just remove all the weak points (everything), and set it in Andromeda - a new Andromeda that has nothing to do with what we currently have. |
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Post by maximusarael020 on Sept 3, 2017 0:52:21 GMT
I think the main thing that detractors are unwilling to accept our realize is that Andromeda was not a "failure" due to setting. The complaints were mostly animations, glitches, CC, poor antagonist, mediocre writing, lack-luster quest design, uninteresting dialogue, and lack of impactful choices. Suiko, anything I'm missing? Contact the Legion and let me know. So to continue in Andromeda they just need a MEA2 that fixes those issues. If MEA2 is a 9.5/10, GOTY blockbuster of a game, the fandom will buy it. Gamers will buy it. If it's a great Mass Effect game, things will be forgiven. It doesn't need to be in the MW to be a great Mass Effect game. The setting sucked as well. Multiple desert worlds, stereotypical Star Wars ice planets - the world building within Andromeda was amateur hour. With floating rocks! If a sequel was GOTY material, I wouldn't buy it if it meant playing as Ryder and his high school squad again. I'd only buy a sequel if everything about the game was completely redone - No Ryder, no Archon, no Kett, no Angara - just remove all the weak points (everything), and set it in Andromeda - a new Andromeda that has nothing to do with what we currently have. "Setting" being Andromeda, not the individual planets. Sure, in ME2 add a bunch of different planets with more interesting Biomes. Count me in! But Spoiler for the ending, Archon dies, so pretty sure he wouldn't be in MEA2. I don't see any reason the Kett or Angara shouldn't be in it. They were interesting enough. You can always have a different antagonist species and have more new Andromeda species too, without deleting the Kett and Angara from existence. As for Ryder... I'd prefer he/she return to finish some things out, but a DA system with new protagonist wouldn't be bad, either. |
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Post by maximusarael020 on Sept 3, 2017 0:53:31 GMT
I think the main thing that detractors are unwilling to accept our realize is that Andromeda was not a "failure" due to setting. The complaints were mostly animations, glitches, CC, poor antagonist, mediocre writing, lack-luster quest design, uninteresting dialogue, and lack of impactful choices. Suiko, anything I'm missing? Contact the Legion and let me know. So to continue in Andromeda they just need a MEA2 that fixes those issues. If MEA2 is a 9.5/10, GOTY blockbuster of a game, the fandom will buy it. Gamers will buy it. If it's a great Mass Effect game, things will be forgiven. It doesn't need to be in the MW to be a great Mass Effect game. The setting sucked as well. Multiple desert worlds, stereotypical Star Wars ice planets - the world building within Andromeda was amateur hour. With floating rocks! If a sequel was GOTY material, I wouldn't buy it if it meant playing as Ryder and his high school squad again. I'd only buy a sequel if everything about the game was completely redone - No Ryder, no Archon, no Kett, no Angara - just remove all the weak points (everything), and set it in Andromeda - a new Andromeda that has nothing to do with what we currently have. Could even move to a different cluster, if need be. Hopefully Remnant/Jardaan stuff would be a constant. |
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Sept 3, 2017 1:00:13 GMT
I think the main thing that detractors are unwilling to accept our realize is that Andromeda was not a "failure" due to setting. The complaints were mostly animations, glitches, CC, poor antagonist, mediocre writing, lack-luster quest design, uninteresting dialogue, and lack of impactful choices. Suiko, anything I'm missing? Contact the Legion and let me know. So to continue in Andromeda they just need a MEA2 that fixes those issues. If MEA2 is a 9.5/10, GOTY blockbuster of a game, the fandom will buy it. Gamers will buy it. If it's a great Mass Effect game, things will be forgiven. It doesn't need to be in the MW to be a great Mass Effect game. Honestly Andromeda is a great setting, but Bioware F'd it up. I meam, we are supposed to be a pathfinder exploring, but everything was already settled before we even got there. We are supposed to find a place for the MW races to settle down, but Sloan Kelly had already did that with Kadara. So what really was Ryder's purpose? A MEA2 should stay in Andromeda and push forward a few centuries. You don't need to jump forward a few centuries to do that. Just have part of the plot be Ryder going to a new cluster and voila we are doing everything we should have done in MEA. After all Mac Walters talked about how that was the plan, it starts in one cluster and then in future games we expand more and more into Andromeda. |
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Post by Steelcan on Sept 3, 2017 1:21:35 GMT
Honestly Andromeda is a great setting, but Bioware F'd it up. I meam, we are supposed to be a pathfinder exploring, but everything was already settled before we even got there. We are supposed to find a place for the MW races to settle down, but Sloan Kelly had already did that with Kadara. So what really was Ryder's purpose? A MEA2 should stay in Andromeda and push forward a few centuries. You don't need to jump forward a few centuries to do that. Just have part of the plot be Ryder going to a new cluster and voila we are doing everything we should have done in MEA. After all Mac Walters talked about how that was the plan, it starts in one cluster and then in future games we expand more and more into Andromeda. One wonders how many star clusters we'll have to go through before BioWare doesn't fuck it up |
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Post by colfoley on Sept 3, 2017 1:24:58 GMT
You don't need to jump forward a few centuries to do that. Just have part of the plot be Ryder going to a new cluster and voila we are doing everything we should have done in MEA. After all Mac Walters talked about how that was the plan, it starts in one cluster and then in future games we expand more and more into Andromeda. One wonders how many star clusters we'll have to go through before BioWare doesn't fuck it up You do realize you are talking to someone who actually likes the game right? |
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Post by simit on Sept 3, 2017 1:31:59 GMT
What direction would you like to see EA/BioWare go with the franchise in the future? Whelp here goes  With ME:A i'd a went the direction of Anthem an had the Andromeda Initiative a human only endeavor, with the ME franchise? I can see it still going in this direction |
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Post by Steelcan on Sept 3, 2017 1:37:17 GMT
One wonders how many star clusters we'll have to go through before BioWare doesn't fuck it up You do realize you are talking to someone who actually likes the game right? and this is relevant? If BioWare's strategy is just up and run to a new star cluster every time a game gets a frosty reception, I expect ME: Canis Major sometime in 2020 |
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Post by suikoden on Sept 3, 2017 2:00:56 GMT
One wonders how many star clusters we'll have to go through before BioWare doesn't fuck it up You do realize you are talking to someone who actually likes the game right? But everyone who like's the game - their opinion doesn't matter to EA. This isn't about you, it's about everyone that thinks BioWare fucked up, because that's who BioWare is catering to by forgoing DLC. That's why EA referenced doing something "fresh" "new" and "exciting" - not "stale" "bad" "meme-worthy" - a la Andromeda. |
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Post by smilesja on Sept 3, 2017 2:07:37 GMT
You do realize you are talking to someone who actually likes the game right? But everyone who like's the game - their opinion doesn't matter to EA. This isn't about you, it's about everyone that thinks BioWare fucked up, because that's who BioWare is catering to by forgoing DLC. That's why EA referenced doing something "fresh" "new" and "exciting" - not "stale" "bad" "meme-worthy" - a la Andromeda. Or they're just moving on to other projects regardless of reception. |
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Post by Steelcan on Sept 3, 2017 2:15:48 GMT
But everyone who like's the game - their opinion doesn't matter to EA. This isn't about you, it's about everyone that thinks BioWare fucked up, because that's who BioWare is catering to by forgoing DLC. That's why EA referenced doing something "fresh" "new" and "exciting" - not "stale" "bad" "meme-worthy" - a la Andromeda. Or they're just moving on to other projects regardless of reception. >EA >abandoning a profitable game what a world we would live in |
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Post by Andrew Lucas on Sept 3, 2017 2:19:29 GMT
Or they're just moving on to other projects regardless of reception. >EA >abandoning a profitable game what a world we would live in BSN's. |
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Post by Andrew Waples on Sept 3, 2017 2:20:10 GMT
Or they're just moving on to other projects regardless of reception. >EA >abandoning a profitable game what a world we would live in If Anthem is successful, no doubt we don't see M.E. for a very long time. It would have to be a Mirrior's Edge 2 situation. At least until Anthem's "ten year plan" runs out and DA4 is out. |
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Post by samhain444 on Sept 3, 2017 2:21:31 GMT
You do realize you are talking to someone who actually likes the game right? But everyone who like's the game - their opinion doesn't matter to EA. This isn't about you, it's about everyone that thinks BioWare fucked up, because that's who BioWare is catering to by forgoing DLC. That's why EA referenced doing something "fresh" "new" and "exciting" - not "stale" "bad" "meme-worthy" - a la Andromeda. I doubt they are returning to the Milky Way, it's just not set up for it due the trilogy. It's the reason they took the franchise 2.5 million light years away from it. That's their biggest statement in terms of their thoughts on the Milky Way setting and Shepard's trilogy. Andromeda is the future of the Mass Effect series and it will appear again when the creators develop a good story concept. |
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Post by smilesja on Sept 3, 2017 2:21:42 GMT
Or they're just moving on to other projects regardless of reception. >EA >abandoning a profitable game what a world we would live in When there's a new IP that EA is invested in. I think they would have people working on it in addition with others. |
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Sept 3, 2017 2:22:17 GMT
You don't need to jump forward a few centuries to do that. Just have part of the plot be Ryder going to a new cluster and voila we are doing everything we should have done in MEA. After all Mac Walters talked about how that was the plan, it starts in one cluster and then in future games we expand more and more into Andromeda. One wonders how many star clusters we'll have to go through before BioWare doesn't fuck it up Hopefully, zero. |
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Sept 3, 2017 2:22:59 GMT
You do realize you are talking to someone who actually likes the game right? But everyone who like's the game - their opinion doesn't matter to EA. This isn't about you, it's about everyone that thinks BioWare fucked up, because that's who BioWare is catering to by forgoing DLC. That's why EA referenced doing something "fresh" "new" and "exciting" - not "stale" "bad" "meme-worthy" - a la Andromeda.  |
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Post by smilesja on Sept 3, 2017 2:23:05 GMT
>EA >abandoning a profitable game what a world we would live in BSN's. It's full of people who like and dislike the game. Far from a hive mind. |
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Post by samhain444 on Sept 3, 2017 2:26:06 GMT
It's full of people who like and dislike the game. Far from a hive mind. It's kinda funny...we get the narrative that ME:A is not liked here and the fans want another direction yet the polls opened always tell a different story. ME:A was enjoyed by a lot of people and still is to this day. |
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Post by Steelcan on Sept 3, 2017 2:28:50 GMT
>EA >abandoning a profitable game what a world we would live in When there's a new IP that EA is invested in. I think they would have people working on it in addition with others. I see we've moved onto the denial stage when do we get to acceptance? |
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Post by Steelcan on Sept 3, 2017 2:31:06 GMT
It's full of people who like and dislike the game. Far from a hive mind. It's kinda funny...we get the narrative that ME:A is not liked here and the fans want another direction yet the polls opened always tell a different story. ME:A was enjoyed by a lot of people and still is to this day. self selection bias |
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Post by smilesja on Sept 3, 2017 2:31:28 GMT
When there's a new IP that EA is invested in. I think they would have people working on it in addition with others. I see we've moved onto the denial stage when do we get to acceptance? So because I'm offering up a possible interpretation it means I'm in denial?  |
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Post by Steelcan on Sept 3, 2017 2:34:50 GMT
I see we've moved onto the denial stage when do we get to acceptance? So because I'm offering up a possible interpretation it means I'm in denial? Sure its a possible interpretation, but its one that reeks of denial to me |
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Post by samhain444 on Sept 3, 2017 2:35:49 GMT
To be clear, though, no one here actually knows what EA/BioWare is currently planning for the franchise. Maybe it's dead, maybe they got an expansion in mind, maybe a direct sequel, maybe a sequel set in a different cluster in Andromeda...who knows? I just look to the BioWare store and see a shitload of Mass Effect merchandise that's going to become irrelevant at some point if they don't have positive news at some point.
I do think they do something. They've invested a lot of money in bringing the ME universe over to the Frostbite 3 engine. My guess is they take the lessons learned from ME:A, DA:I, Anthem, and DA4, see what works and build something from there meaning we probably see something around 2021-2022
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