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Post by rapscallioness on Sept 7, 2017 1:17:46 GMT
Well, I voted Shepard, but I'd really hate to see them fighting because I have a whole head canon involving Ryder and Shep. Basically, my main Shep that is Earthborn orphan is actually...Ryder's older sibling.
You see what had happened was: it was summer when Alec met Shep's mother. It was a summer of young, hot love. Then Alec was...shipped out? he had to go somewhere. But then Shep's mom discovered she was pregnant and had no way of tracking down Alec.
Tragically, Shep's mom died in childbirth...I think. something like that. And Shep was orphaned never knowing that Alec was their father. And Alec never knew he had a daughter/son by his young love.
Fast forward a few years, and Alec meets Ellen, falls in love and has the Ryder twins. The twins don't know that Shepard is their older sibling.
Yes, I did this. Don't judge me. But yeah, big brother/big sister Shep would kick their little sibling's butt. Not too bad, though.
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Post by maximusarael020 on Sept 7, 2017 1:26:13 GMT
Ryder. Because I think SAM pretty much advances to the point where he can resurrect Ryder from anything, and even if Ryder is beaten to the point of brain damage, SAM will still bring him back up and keep him swinging. It's not a fair fight. Unless Shep straight up severs Ryder's head, Ryder/SAM will keep coming back for more. If it were this easy Alec could have put his helmet on Ryder and SAM could have kept him alive or brought him back to life later. I dunno. There might be a difference between suffocating due to lack of oxygen and inhalation of toxic gas and getting knocked on your ass.
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Post by saMoorai on Sept 7, 2017 7:08:15 GMT
As of right now? Shepard. Dude punched out a Yahg.
It's always a little weird for me to think of whose the better fighter. Shepard has experience and feels like the obvious choice, but I feel like Ryder has more 'potential' if that makes sense.
But yeah, Shepard punches like a mother fucker. The goddamned cyborg zombie.
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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on Sept 7, 2017 11:13:57 GMT
Fem Ryder vs Fem Shep- Pretty even, but one is a hardened experienced veteran. Fem Shep wins. Dude Ryder vs. Sheploo - Look at Ryders build, Shepard would crush him like a dry leaf under a foot, not to mention his combat experience.
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Post by Wildfire on Sept 7, 2017 12:57:50 GMT
Shepard has reach, and Ryder has flexibility
So yeah, I support the option of a draw + a bang.
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Post by geralt on Sept 7, 2017 13:25:40 GMT
Ryder doesn't need to fight, s/he has a Krogan. Shepard has err.......two, oh well, nevermind then!
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Post by Serza on Sept 7, 2017 13:36:45 GMT
Ryder doesn't need to fight, s/he has a Krogan. Shepard has err.......two, oh well, nevermind then! Up to three, depending on your choices on Elaaden.
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Post by mannyray on Sept 7, 2017 14:11:39 GMT
Gotta go with Shepard, as he/she is the marysue supersoldier at the outset the fanbase apparently needs.
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Post by alanc9 on Sept 7, 2017 17:59:23 GMT
Gotta go with Shepard, as he/she is the marysue supersoldier at the outset the fanbase apparently needs. /thread?
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Post by mannyray on Sept 7, 2017 19:46:53 GMT
Gotta go with Shepard, as he/she is the marysue supersoldier at the outset the fanbase apparently needs. /thread? /thread!
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Post by Thrombin on Sept 8, 2017 12:21:45 GMT
Doesn't seem fair to pit Ryder against a 600 year old corpse. In my game she's not a corpse she's a Reaper Which, admittedly wouldn't be a fair fight either...
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Post by melbella on Sept 8, 2017 12:52:04 GMT
Ooh, Remnant ship vs Reaper - who wins?
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Post by KaiserShep on Sept 8, 2017 20:52:39 GMT
I imagine Ryder would know what a plesiosaur is. C'mon Shep. You know the frakkin' Loch Ness monster ain't real.
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Post by Garo on Sept 8, 2017 21:38:03 GMT
Is that even a question?
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Post by theflyingzamboni on Sept 9, 2017 5:17:23 GMT
I'm pretty sure it's already been established that no matter what scars you bear, whatever uniform you wear, you can fight like a krogan, run like a leopard, but you'll never be better than Commander Shepard.
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Sept 9, 2017 6:24:13 GMT
Why I am on the fence. From a tactical standpoint of view: Each character have abilities that are good for their skill sets: -Skill set for Shepard being locked to one profile. -Shepard has years of experience using his/her abilities and N7 training and would still be in quite good shape -he is only 30 in 2184. -Shepard can upgrade his abilities but again only those tied to his current profile. -Shepard also has EDI -the AI that sort of acts like S.A.M. -if listened to in ME2 or taken on missions in ME3. -Downside Shepard is bound to the ground and can't really go airborne. -Ryder's skill set is not bound to any single profile but can pull from all of them: combat, biotic or tech or all three. -Ryder -be it male or female has combat experience -though not of N7 vintage -has received informal N7 training from Alec Ryder. -Informal training that would obviously alert Ryder to movements of Shepard and combined with S.A.M. allow Ryder to counter some of them. -Ryder is not bound to a single profile like Shepard and is able to upgrade any ability -given enough skill points -no matter the profile. -S.A.M. can enhance abilities, senses, ect. So confrontation could be quicker to evade or attack. -Ryder is not bound to the ground like Shepard and is younger with a jet pack -giving increased agility and mobility versus Shepard stuck on the ground. So when going at it one on one the skill index of who is better is canceled out by both sides strengths being somewhat identical While whatever few weaknesses offset each other: Shepard goes on the ground attack Ryder jump jets behind Shepard. Shepard spins around and Biotic Charges Ryder. SAM: Incoming side charge
Ryder side jet evades. Ryder turns launches energy drain and overload. Shepard Launches Biotic Barrier -fires first salvo from Regaar Carbine followed quickly by few shots from Handcannon. SAM: Incoming electric damage. Biotic Barrier in place.
Ryder throws up tech armor -fires blasts with avenger, followed by biotic singularity and concussive shot. Shepard again activates Biotic Barrier and fires Regaar Carbine blast and teams it with warp and shockwave. SAM: Electric and Biotic Damage incoming plus shockwave.
Ryder Evades' up and Biotic charges Shepard. Shepard uses pull and nova as Ryder closes in SAM: Shepard is using Biotic Pull and Nova tactic. Advise counter attack #5
Ryder Jump jets at last possible moment. Shepard stunned by jet blast. Ryder Hesitates ending blow. SAM: Finish Him Ryder...Too late. Evade.
Shepard Biotic charges Ryder in the air. Ryder Jet jumps to nearby ledge. *Klaxon sounds* SAM: Stalemate.
Ryder: "Good match." Shepard: "Ready for round 15?" Ryder: "Ready."
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Post by abedsbrother on Sept 10, 2017 0:56:37 GMT
Shepard vs. Alec Ryder, close because they're both N7. A draw because Shepard is younger, but Alec has SAM (and apparently when Alec switches profiles, there is no cooldown ). Shepard vs. Scott / Sara - lol no contest. Scott guarded a mass relay and was trained in the Initiative for recon. Shepard was N7. ( Just to remind you what that involves...) Shepard would knock Scott silly in seconds, SAM or not. Tela Vasir gave Shepard more of a challenge than Scott Ryder would.
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Post by Andrew Lucas on Sept 10, 2017 1:17:39 GMT
Man, this whole section is really dying. No surprise. But Shepard.
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Post by rpgmaster on Sept 10, 2017 15:55:42 GMT
Ryder vs. Shepard's charred corpse would be a fairer fight.
I think Shepard would still win that.
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Post by kenshen19 on Sept 10, 2017 20:35:37 GMT
Shep has this pretty easy to me however the jetpack if timed right could be a game changer however you would only get one shot at making that count.
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Post by Steelcan on Sept 11, 2017 2:25:42 GMT
I imagine Ryder would know what a plesiosaur is. C'mon Shep. You know the frakkin' Loch Ness monster ain't real. its so hard to try and make Shepard seem smart
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Post by KaiserShep on Sept 11, 2017 6:14:25 GMT
Shepard vs. Alec Ryder, close because they're both N7. A draw because Shepard is younger, but Alec has SAM (and apparently when Alec switches profiles, there is no cooldown ). Shepard vs. Scott / Sara - lol no contest. Scott guarded a mass relay and was trained in the Initiative for recon. Shepard was N7. ( Just to remind you what that involves...) Shepard would knock Scott silly in seconds, SAM or not. Tela Vasir gave Shepard more of a challenge than Scott Ryder would. Honestly, I always thought Tela Vasir was kinda trash as an opponent (though bosses in ME2 were never great to begin with). Her vanguard abilities were basically evasion only. She should have been charging us headfirst and using a shotgun up close and personal, not some dinky Vindicator. If not for the great OST of that DLC, her boss battle would have sucked entirely. At least Ryder would be pulling death from above charges and nova combos, and apparently can launch cobra rpg's from the omni-tool on a regular basis, while someone decided Shep wasn't allowed to use a Cain anymore.
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Post by yan on Sept 11, 2017 8:30:21 GMT
They are not even in the same league. Maybe Ryder could beat Tali. Maybe.
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Post by ioannisdenton on Sept 11, 2017 10:27:35 GMT
They are not even in the same league. Maybe Ryder could beat Tali. Maybe. tali still has a shotgun though, she is a BADASS.
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