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Post by griffith82 on Sept 24, 2017 21:01:32 GMT
No I think it's you who doesn't. DA2 isn't a fair comparison as it was meant to be different as the Darkspawn are no longer the main threat. You are suggesting ignoring MEA yet remain in Andromeda THAT IS A REBOOT! "In serial fiction, to reboot means to discard all continuity in an established series in order to recreate its characters, timeline and backstory from the beginning."
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2017 21:19:01 GMT
It doesn't take them in account for the story. The game I suggested wouldn't "ignore it completely" either, since the Initiative had to happen for the exiled group to be in Andromeda, it just wouldn't take it in account for the main story. Your definitions of "reboot" clearly need an update.  Oooooor maybe you should have just explained what you meant better since so many seem to see a reboot in what you wrote? Just a thought. Or... ...and just stick with me here... ...those people commenting might need better comprehension since he hasn't said anything different since his first post. I wouldn't mind if it was a sequel to Andromeda, but they would have to change everything
- Drop ALL characters, because they are ALL worthless (except for Peebee). ENTIRELY different crew and companions.
- Drop the kett, angara, jardaan, Initiative and whatever, their story is absolutely uninteresting, doesn't make any sense and it's not worth continuing.
- Since you have to drop all that, you could play as a bunch of exiles who were able to, in someway, move to another cluster. Though this could just be your signature " I don't have a point, I'm just being random >_>" by which you have effectively trolled me and deserves a congratulations... |
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Post by alanc9 on Sept 24, 2017 21:19:05 GMT
Worrying about whether a particular design idea ought to be put in the box labelled "reboot" or not is an idiotic waste of time, even by this board's standards.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2017 21:21:07 GMT
Worrying about whether a particular design idea ought to be put in the box labelled "reboot" or not is an idiotic waste of time, even by this board's standards. Yet here you are commenting. It must have peaked your interest some right? |
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Post by KaiserShep on Sept 24, 2017 21:32:38 GMT
Dragon Age 2 ignores neither Ferelden or the Blight. It doesn't take them in account for the story. The game I suggested wouldn't "ignore it completely" either, since the Initiative had to happen for the exiled group to be in Andromeda, it just wouldn't take it in account for the main story. Your definitions of "reboot" clearly need an update. But what you're essentially talking about is a soft reboot. Andromeda dances between spin-off and soft reboot, since it accounts for the original trilogy, but entirely abandons the setting and characters and follows none of the old threads before it, but there was really nowhere to go without retconning the shit out of things. If the next Andromeda game took place in an entirely different setting with different characters and didn't follow-up on any of the threads established by the previous game, then it's really the same thing, only here there's no real reason to do it other than that some people pissed and moaned about the previous game. |
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Post by KaiserShep on Sept 24, 2017 21:33:41 GMT
Worrying about whether a particular design idea ought to be put in the box labelled "reboot" or not is an idiotic waste of time, even by this board's standards. Yet here you are commenting. It must have peaked your interest some right? Piqued  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2017 22:01:33 GMT
Yet here you are commenting. It must have peaked your interest some right? Piqued Touche... |
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Post by anarchy65 on Sept 24, 2017 22:01:45 GMT
It doesn't take them in account for the story. The game I suggested wouldn't "ignore it completely" either, since the Initiative had to happen for the exiled group to be in Andromeda, it just wouldn't take it in account for the main story. Your definitions of "reboot" clearly need an update. But what you're essentially talking about is a soft reboot. Andromeda dances between spin-off and soft reboot, since it accounts for the original trilogy, but entirely abandons the setting and characters and follows none of the old threads before it, but there was really nowhere to go without retconning the shit out of things. If the next Andromeda game took place in an entirely different setting with different characters and didn't follow-up on any of the threads established by the previous game, then it's really the same thing, only here there's no real reason to do it other than that some people pissed and moaned about the previous game. Abandoning the continuity in search for a new one is NOT a reboot. Reboot is when you do something different FROM SCRATCH. Let's say, for example, that they make another Andromeda with the Initiative since the beginning, creating another different story, without pathfinders, without angara and without kett. THAT would be a reboot. A reboot isn't about ignoring previous games/stories, it's about basically deleting them, treating them as it never existed. |
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Post by anarchy65 on Sept 24, 2017 22:02:56 GMT
It doesn't take them in account for the story. The game I suggested wouldn't "ignore it completely" either, since the Initiative had to happen for the exiled group to be in Andromeda, it just wouldn't take it in account for the main story. Your definitions of "reboot" clearly need an update. Oooooor maybe you should have just explained what you meant better since so many seem to see a reboot in what you wrote? Just a thought. I think my explanation is perfectly fine. The problem is, as I already mentioned, their definition of reboot. |
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Sept 24, 2017 23:43:13 GMT
Am I the only one who actually liked Andromeda's main story? Not the only one but we are few and far between sadly it seems. |
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Post by alanc9 on Sept 25, 2017 0:29:15 GMT
Worrying about whether a particular design idea ought to be put in the box labelled "reboot" or not is an idiotic waste of time, even by this board's standards. Yet here you are commenting. It must have peaked your interest some right? I find following stupid arguments entertaining, sometimes. As long as I don't have to put too much time into them, of course |
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Post by KaiserShep on Sept 25, 2017 1:19:28 GMT
But what you're essentially talking about is a soft reboot. Andromeda dances between spin-off and soft reboot, since it accounts for the original trilogy, but entirely abandons the setting and characters and follows none of the old threads before it, but there was really nowhere to go without retconning the shit out of things. If the next Andromeda game took place in an entirely different setting with different characters and didn't follow-up on any of the threads established by the previous game, then it's really the same thing, only here there's no real reason to do it other than that some people pissed and moaned about the previous game. Abandoning the continuity in search for a new one is NOT a reboot. Reboot is when you do something different FROM SCRATCH. Let's say, for example, that they make another Andromeda with the Initiative since the beginning, creating another different story, without pathfinders, without angara and without kett. THAT would be a reboot. A reboot isn't about ignoring previous games/stories, it's about basically deleting them, treating them as it never existed. Hence the "soft" part. Doesn't really matter; I don't see much difference if continuity is abandoned. |
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Post by Steelcan on Sept 25, 2017 2:01:09 GMT
Am I the only one who actually liked Andromeda's main story? Not the only one but we are few and far between sadly it seems. there just may be a reason for that |
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Post by griffith82 on Sept 25, 2017 2:14:54 GMT
Not the only one but we are few and far between sadly it seems. there just may be a reason for that Yup. Those of us who like the game got tired of being told what to do and what to like so most gave up. |
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Post by Steelcan on Sept 25, 2017 2:15:51 GMT
there just may be a reason for that Yup. Those of us who like the game got tired of being told what to do and what to like so most gave up. that's one possibility, though given the generally mixed reception on this forum, I don't think that's the correct one |
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Post by griffith82 on Sept 25, 2017 2:17:06 GMT
Yup. Those of us who like the game got tired of being told what to do and what to like so most gave up. that's one possibility, though given the generally mixed reception on this forum, I don't think that's the correct one The fact that most threads asking how to continue the franchise the results are to continue Andromeda prove otherwise. |
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Post by Steelcan on Sept 25, 2017 2:18:41 GMT
that's one possibility, though given the generally mixed reception on this forum, I don't think that's the correct one The fact that most threads asking how to continue the franchise the results are to continue Andromeda prove otherwise. The fact that the polls show significant support for continuing Andromeda, despite the savaging it gets in many threads is why i say mixed, it was clearly not universally panned or celebrated here. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2017 2:20:36 GMT
there just may be a reason for that Yup. Those of us who like the game got tired of being told what to do and what to like so most gave up. Yet you had no problems telling people who disliked the game that they were just "haters" and all the problems they had with the game were just "overblown".  |
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Post by griffith82 on Sept 25, 2017 2:24:43 GMT
Yup. Those of us who like the game got tired of being told what to do and what to like so most gave up. Yet you had no problems telling people who disliked the game that they were just "haters" and all the problems they had with the game were just "overblown". Stop putting words in my mouth. Some complaints were valid, some were not and some were overblown. I never said all complaints were invalid ever. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2017 2:28:45 GMT
Yet you had no problems telling people who disliked the game that they were just "haters" and all the problems they had with the game were just "overblown". Stop putting words in my mouth. Some complaints were valid, some were not and some were overblown. I never said all complaints were invalid ever. But you've also never stated which ones were valid and which were overblown... And I've never put any words in your mouth that you didn't already say. Need I go back and remind you with some of your post? I don't BS, I call people out on theirs. |
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Post by 10k on Sept 25, 2017 3:14:34 GMT
No reboot. Just remaster the OT then give the Andromeda fans the sequel they want a few years down the line afterwards. This is the only way forward I see, it would make a lot of people happy. Personally, I'd like them to rewrite the ME3 ending then continue Shepard story. But that would never happen due to "artistic integrity"
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Post by griffith82 on Sept 25, 2017 3:17:45 GMT
Stop putting words in my mouth. Some complaints were valid, some were not and some were overblown. I never said all complaints were invalid ever. But you've also never stated which ones were valid and which were overblown... And I've never put any words in your mouth that you didn't already say. Need I go back and remind you with some of your post? I don't BS, I call people out on theirs. Yes I have. I've stated many times what issues are valid and ones that aren't, I'm not about to go over the same shit again. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2017 3:37:54 GMT
But you've also never stated which ones were valid and which were overblown... And I've never put any words in your mouth that you didn't already say. Need I go back and remind you with some of your post? I don't BS, I call people out on theirs. Yes I have. I've stated many times what issues are valid and ones that aren't, I'm not about to go over the same shit again. I've yet to see anywhere in your post since August where you describe which are legit and which aren't. How much further do I need to go back? I'll do all the work so I can call you out on your BS. |
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Post by samhain444 on Sept 25, 2017 3:38:50 GMT
But you've also never stated which ones were valid and which were overblown... And I've never put any words in your mouth that you didn't already say. Need I go back and remind you with some of your post? I don't BS, I call people out on theirs. Yes I have. I've stated many times what issues are valid and ones that aren't, I'm not about to go over the same shit again. These arguments are...endless |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2017 3:39:53 GMT
Yes I have. I've stated many times what issues are valid and ones that aren't, I'm not about to go over the same shit again. These arguments are... endlessHEY...I got some props! Thumbs up 4 u! |
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